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John Leibacher

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:17:58 AM11/25/09
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Kathleen K. Taylor has scanned in all of the issues and they now
available
online at soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index. 30 years of the most
formative
years of our sport!! This treasure trove of content is now available
to everyone thanks to her extraordinary gracious contribution, and
they
make for extremely interesting reading.

This is a "beta" release, and there are bound to be glitches in
getting
the pages of the scan matched up with the index, so please pass along
any problems that you encounter and suggestions for the improvement of
access to this wonderful resource.

Thanks also to Bertha Ryan for helping making all of this happen.

MANY THANKS Kathy, the rest of you enjoy!

John Leibacher
john.le...@gmail.com

asw22...@gmail.com

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:22:24 AM11/25/09
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> john.leibac...@gmail.com

Great job..

Thanks

Al

Darryl Ramm

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:04:22 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 9:17 pm, John Leibacher <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> john.leibac...@gmail.com

Thanks to all the people who did this.

I think I'll be looking thought these back issues while recovering
from Turkey day...

Darryl

Paul Remde

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:29:43 AM11/25/09
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Hi John,

Awesome! Thanks. I can't wait to see them!

But where are they? I did a quick check of the SSA web site and didn't see
them.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

"John Leibacher" <john.le...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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lanebush

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:32:34 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 8:29 am, "Paul Remde" <p...@remde.us> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Awesome!  Thanks.  I can't wait to see them!
>
> But where are they?  I did a quick check of the SSA web site and didn't see
> them.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
>
> "John Leibacher" <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:071aa7ac-aaae-493d...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Kathleen K. Taylor has scanned in all of the issues and they now
> > available
> > online at soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index.  30 years of the most
> > formative
> > years of our sport!!  This treasure trove of content is now available
> > to everyone thanks to her extraordinary gracious contribution, and
> > they
> > make for extremely interesting reading.
>
> > This is a "beta" release, and there are bound to be glitches in
> > getting
> > the pages of the scan matched up with the index, so please pass along
> > any problems that you encounter and suggestions for the improvement of
> > access to this wonderful resource.
>
> > Thanks also to Bertha Ryan for helping making all of this happen.
>
> > MANY THANKS Kathy, the rest of you enjoy!
>
> > John Leibacher
> > john.leibac...@gmail.com

I can not find them either.
Lane

John Leibacher

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:09:27 AM11/25/09
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http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index is the top level URL for the
index. For any of the listings (by Issue, Subject, Author, etc...)
for a year in this interval, click on a highlighted page number to get
the scanned page. Or you can select "Content" to get links to the
whole year, page by page.

All suggestions, comments, brickbats on the presentation and access
are warmly encouraged!!

John Leibacher

Andy

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:55:20 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 2:09 pm, John Leibacher <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Indexis the top level URL for the

> index.  For any of the listings (by Issue, Subject, Author, etc...)
> for a year in this interval, click on a highlighted page number to get
> the scanned page.  Or you can select "Content" to get links to the
> whole year, page by page.

Thanks for making this available. I found the search easy to use and
found several references I wanted to look at. That's as far as I was
able to go. I tried clicking all over the place but never found out
how to get to the search results. I saw no highlighted page numbers.

Is IE 6.x supported ?

Andy

MickiMinner

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:06:54 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 7:55 am, Andy <a.dur...@netzero.net> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2:09 pm, John Leibacher <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Indexisthe top level URL for the

> > index.  For any of the listings (by Issue, Subject, Author, etc...)
> > for a year in this interval, click on a highlighted page number to get
> > the scanned page.  Or you can select "Content" to get links to the
> > whole year, page by page.
>
>
> Andy

Everyone, this is NOT the one that the SSA offices are working on...I
thought that somebody at the SSA offices had talked to Kathy about
putting them on the SSA website, not the worldwide soaring exchange.
However, better there than NO where!
Micki

John Leibacher

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:06:16 PM11/25/09
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Sorry, Andy. The content is linked everywhere BUT the search tool,
for the moment. I'll get it there over the T'Day holidays I hope.
Just go to the listings by year, for the moment.

John L

On Nov 25, 7:55 am, Andy <a.dur...@netzero.net> wrote:

> On Nov 25, 2:09 pm, John Leibacher <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> >http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Indexisthe top level URL for the


> > index.  For any of the listings (by Issue, Subject, Author, etc...)
> > for a year in this interval, click on a highlighted page number to get
> > the scanned page.  Or you can select "Content" to get links to the
> > whole year, page by page.
>
> Thanks for making this available.  I found the search easy to use and
> found several references I wanted to look at.  That's as far as I was
> able to go.  I tried clicking all over the place but never found out
> how to get to the search results.  I saw no highlighted page numbers.
>
> Is IE 6.x supported ?

Yes, it works fine. The search isn't supported quite yet, that's all.

>
> Andy

Greg Arnold

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:09:37 PM11/25/09
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No highlighted page numbers in Firefox.

Greg Arnold

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:14:55 PM11/25/09
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I am too dense to figure this out on my own. Could you explain the
steps to take to get to the scanned issues? I am not having much luck
getting there from the listings by year.

Tim Taylor

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:30:15 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 10:09 am, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
> Andy wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 2:09 pm, John Leibacher <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Indexisthe top level URL for the

> >> index.  For any of the listings (by Issue, Subject, Author, etc...)
> >> for a year in this interval, click on a highlighted page number to get
> >> the scanned page.  Or you can select "Content" to get links to the
> >> whole year, page by page.
>
> > Thanks for making this available.  I found the search easy to use and
> > found several references I wanted to look at.  That's as far as I was
> > able to go.  I tried clicking all over the place but never found out
> > how to get to the search results.  I saw no highlighted page numbers.
>
> > Is IE 6.x supported ?
>
> > Andy
>
> No highlighted page numbers in Firefox.

Greg,

Try:

http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/listings.html

Then pick any year from 1937 to 1967. Or click on the "Contents" link
for those years and you should access the images of the pages in pdf
format. Make sure you have a good pdf viewer installed on your
computer.

If you need a viewer try Adobe or any of the other free viewers out
there.

http://www.adobe.com/products/reader/

Greg Arnold

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:01:35 PM11/25/09
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Thanks. We are making progress, but I see that the URL of the scanned
pages ends with .html rather than .pdf. See, for example, any of the
links at:
http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1945/PDF/1945_pdf_index.html.

I don't know anything about computers, but wouldn't you use a .pdf
suffix for a PDF file? Or am I still looking in the wrong place?

Trying to open a link either crashes Firefox, or I get a message that my
pdf reader (FoxIt) refuses to load.

mike

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:54:14 PM11/25/09
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Thanks Kathy.

This is really great!

Mike C


> make for extremely interesting reading.
>
> This is a "beta" release, and there are bound to be glitches in
> getting
> the pages of the scan matched up with the index, so please pass along
> any problems that you encounter and suggestions for the improvement of
> access to this wonderful resource.
>
> Thanks also to Bertha Ryan for helping making all of this happen.
>
> MANY THANKS Kathy, the rest of you enjoy!
>
> John Leibacher

> john.leibac...@gmail.com

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Tim Taylor

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:03:54 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 1:01 pm, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
> Thanks.  We are making progress, but I see that the URL of the scanned
> pages ends with .html rather than .pdf.  See, for example, any of the
> links at:http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1945/PDF/1945_pdf_index.html.
>
> I don't know anything about computers, but wouldn't you use a .pdf
> suffix for a PDF file?  Or am I still looking in the wrong place?
>
> Trying to open a link either crashes Firefox, or I get a message that my
> pdf reader (FoxIt) refuses to load.
>
>
>
> Tim Taylor wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 10:09 am, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
> >> Andy wrote:
> >>> On Nov 25, 2:09 pm, John Leibacher <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Indexisthetop level URL for the

> >>>> index.  For any of the listings (by Issue, Subject, Author, etc...)
> >>>> for a year in this interval, click on a highlighted page number to get
> >>>> the scanned page.  Or you can select "Content" to get links to the
> >>>> whole year, page by page.
> >>> Thanks for making this available.  I found the search easy to use and
> >>> found several references I wanted to look at.  That's as far as I was
> >>> able to go.  I tried clicking all over the place but never found out
> >>> how to get to the search results.  I saw no highlighted page numbers.
> >>> Is IE 6.x supported ?
> >>> Andy
> >> No highlighted page numbers in Firefox.
>
> > Greg,
>
> > Try:
>
> >http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/listings.html
>
> > Then pick any year from 1937 to 1967.  Or click on the "Contents" link
> > for those years and you should access the images of the pages in pdf
> > format.  Make sure you have a good pdf viewer installed on your
> > computer.
>
> > If you need a viewer try Adobe or any of the other free viewers out
> > there.
>
> >http://www.adobe.com/products/reader/

Greg,

Sounds like your pdf reader, FOXIT, is not working with the webpages.
Mine works fine with Adobe Acrobat Plug-in turned on.

You can load adobe acrobat and then make sure that the plug in is
turned on in FireFox.

Follow these menus in FireFox

Tools
Options
Add-ons
Manage Add-ons
Click the plug-in tab and make sure that Adobe Acrobat Plug-in
is enabled.

Good luck

Bob

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:07:55 PM11/25/09
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Snip

>
> No highlighted page numbers in Firefox.

I must admit I was confused until I read more carefully that only 1937
to 1967 has the hot links on the page numbers, and they show in
Firefox, and from there you get to page through the entire issue. The
links take you to 'standard' html pages, not pdf's... at least for me.

What a great job! Well done!

For those wanting even more to read, the Canadian journal, Free
Flight, thanks to Tony Burton,
is available from 1981 forward at: http://www.sac.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=26

Bob

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:40:08 PM11/25/09
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snipks at:http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1945/PDF/

1945_pdf_index.html.
>
> I don't know anything about computers, but wouldn't you use a .pdf
> suffix for a PDF file?

 snip

Looks like all links are to an html page which in turn will launch an
embedded pdf file. Working for me in Firefox 3.5.5 and Acrobat reader.

Here's March 1965 page 21 as an example:
http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1965/PDF/1965_Mar_21.html
It's an html link, but that has the embedded page 21 scan in it. Once
there, you move page to page using the top controls.

Robert Danewid

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:58:19 PM11/25/09
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I also have Firefox 3.5.5 and Acrobat Reader 6.0 , and it does not work.
It says "Operation is not allowed".
/Robert


Bob skrev:

Chris Reed

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:00:27 PM11/25/09
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I had to update to the latest version of Reader (9.2 I think) to access
these.

Bob

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:01:54 PM11/25/09
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I am seeing failed linksin search results, the target link has an
extra "soaringweb.org/cgi-bin/" within the URL, if you remove that the
page displays.

Example: a search on the word "test" shows the first result:

...The soaring test pilot flies the Franklin PS-1 utility glider, Dec,
1937, page 9 [Sailplanes\Franklin; Test Flying]

with a URL of: http://soaringweb.org/cgi-bin/soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1937/PDF/1937_Dec_09.html
for the highlighted page 9

the link fails, but if you edit the URL in your browser address line
by removing exactly "soaringweb.org/cgi-bin/" from the left side... it
works fine.

Resulting in a URL of: http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1937/PDF/1937_Dec_09.html

My guess is they can fix that soon.

Bob

vontresc

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:02:31 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 3:58 pm, Robert Danewid <robert.dane...@segelflyget.se>
wrote:
> > there, you move page to page using the top controls.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I can see the pages just fine, but with Acrobar reader 8 and IE8 the
individual pages are not embedded in the web page. Instead they
display in a seperate Acrobat window.

Other than that i't absolutely wonderful to have access to this
resource.

Thanks!

Peter

Bob

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Nov 25, 2009, 5:21:17 PM11/25/09
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snip

> My guess is they can fix that soon.
>
> Bob

WOW! That was fast, it is working now, minutes later! So ignore that
last post.

John Leibacher

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:14:05 PM11/25/09
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Yes, that is what we call "a feature"! ;-) Seriously, I hate having
pop-up windows or separate windows that you have to close later, but
if the links just opened the new page in the same window and you then
page forward or backward to view other pages of contents, it was a
real pain to backtrack to where you started from. So I figured that
the new window (or tab if you have your browser set up that way) was
the lesser evil. I went with a new window/tab, rather that a pop-up
window, as I have those blocked in my browser and assume most other
folks do as well.

Thanks for the feedback!

John Leibacher

John Leibacher

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:22:56 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 9:01 pm, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
> Thanks.  We are making progress, but I see that the URL of the scanned
> pages ends with .html rather than .pdf.  See, for example, any of the
> links at:http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1945/PDF/1945_pdf_index.html.
>
> I don't know anything about computers, but wouldn't you use a .pdf
> suffix for a PDF file?  Or am I still looking in the wrong place?

In order to be able to move backward and forward from a given page to
another, I ended up embedding each page's PDF in a little HTML wrapper
that has links to other pages. OK?

Any and all suggestions are encouraged, straight to
john.le...@gmail.com to keep the newsgroup lean.

>
> Trying to open a link either crashes Firefox, or I get a message that my
> pdf reader (FoxIt) refuses to load.
>
> Tim Taylor wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 10:09 am, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
> >> Andy wrote:
> >>> On Nov 25, 2:09 pm, John Leibacher <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>>http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Indexisthetop level URL for the

Eric Greenwell

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:26:31 PM11/25/09
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John Leibacher wrote:
> On Nov 25, 9:01 pm, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. We are making progress, but I see that the URL of the scanned
>> pages ends with .html rather than .pdf. See, for example, any of the
>> links at:http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1945/PDF/1945_pdf_index.html.
>>
>> I don't know anything about computers, but wouldn't you use a .pdf
>> suffix for a PDF file? Or am I still looking in the wrong place?
>>
>
> In order to be able to move backward and forward from a given page to
> another, I ended up embedding each page's PDF in a little HTML wrapper
> that has links to other pages. OK?
>
> Any and all suggestions are encouraged, straight to
> john.le...@gmail.com to keep the newsgroup lean.
Well, I finally got it to work. The pages were showing an empty frame
with a "click here to get the plugin" in Seamonkey (Firefox kin), while
IE 7 showed an empty frame with a red X in it. I had to change Foxit, my
pdf reader, to "display in browser" before the pages would work. I
assume the same thing would work for Adobe Reader.

This is quite workable, but it means I have to change the setting on my
browser from my normal "display in separate window" to view the Soaring
pages, then change back to my normal preference. It's also going to
puzzle a lot visitors unless there are instructions to change their
Reader setting! I have some suggestions, but there is no hurry to
implement them. What you and Kathleen have produced is way more than
what I had before!

1. find a way of displaying the pages without requiring the PDF
reader to "open in browser". Flash, maybe?
2. Or, offer users the option using the Reader outside the browser.
I have a wide screen monitor, and can easily park the reader
beside the browser. That lets me use a much taller display area
for the pages than I'd manage inside the browser.
3. offer a way to download the entire issue as one file. These older
issues aren't that big, and you have to download all the pages to
read an issue, anyway.

--
Eric Greenwell

Eric Greenwell

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:27:06 PM11/25/09
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John Leibacher wrote:
> On Nov 25, 9:01 pm, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. We are making progress, but I see that the URL of the scanned
>> pages ends with .html rather than .pdf. See, for example, any of the
>> links at:http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1945/PDF/1945_pdf_index.html.
>>
>> I don't know anything about computers, but wouldn't you use a .pdf
>> suffix for a PDF file? Or am I still looking in the wrong place?
>>
>
> In order to be able to move backward and forward from a given page to
> another, I ended up embedding each page's PDF in a little HTML wrapper
> that has links to other pages. OK?
>
> Any and all suggestions are encouraged, straight to
> john.le...@gmail.com to keep the newsgroup lean.

Darryl Ramm

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:35:20 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 7:27 pm, Eric Greenwell <flyguy...@verizon.netto> wrote:
> John Leibacher wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 9:01 pm, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
>
> >> Thanks.  We are making progress, but I see that the URL of the scanned
> >> pages ends with .html rather than .pdf.  See, for example, any of the
> >> links at:http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1945/PDF/1945_pdf_index.html.
>
> >> I don't know anything about computers, but wouldn't you use a .pdf
> >> suffix for a PDF file?  Or am I still looking in the wrong place?
>
> > In order to be able to move backward and forward from a given page to
> > another, I ended up embedding each page's PDF in a little HTML wrapper
> > that has links to other pages.  OK?
>
> > Any and all suggestions are encouraged, straight to
> > john.leibac...@gmail.com to keep the newsgroup lean.

>
> Well, I finally got it to work. The pages were showing an empty frame
> with a "click here to get the plugin" in Seamonkey (Firefox kin), while
> IE 7 showed an empty frame with a red X in it. I had to change Foxit, my
> pdf reader, to "display in browser" before the pages would work. I
> assume the same thing would work for Adobe Reader.
>
> This is quite workable, but it means I have to change the setting on my
> browser from my normal "display in separate window" to view the Soaring
> pages, then change back to my normal preference. It's also going to
> puzzle a lot visitors unless there are instructions to change their
> Reader setting! I have some suggestions, but there is no hurry to
> implement them. What you and Kathleen have produced is way more than
> what I had before!
>
>    1. find a way of displaying the pages without requiring the PDF
>       reader to "open in browser". Flash, maybe?
>    2. Or, offer users the option using the Reader outside the browser.
>       I have a wide screen monitor, and can easily park the reader
>       beside the browser. That lets me use a much taller display area
>       for the pages than I'd manage inside the browser.
>    3. offer a way to download the entire issue as one file. These older
>       issues aren't that big, and you have to download all the pages to
>       read an issue, anyway.
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell

Please don't infect the world with more Flash crapware. There are much
easier ways to do this. Including just magazine level PDF bundles.

Darryl

Adam

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Nov 26, 2009, 11:46:19 AM11/26/09
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On Nov 24, 11:17 pm, John Leibacher <john.leibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kathleen K. Taylor has scanned in all of the issues and they now
> available
> online at soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index.  30 years of the most
> formative
> years of our sport!!  This treasure trove of content is now available
> to everyone thanks to her extraordinary gracious contribution, and
> they

SUPER!!

Thanks so much!

/Adam

Phil Umphres

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Nov 26, 2009, 4:14:19 PM11/26/09
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On Nov 25, 9:26 pm, Eric Greenwell <flyguy...@verizon.netto> wrote:
> John Leibacher wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 9:01 pm, Greg Arnold <Soa...@cox.netREMOVE> wrote:
>
> >> Thanks.  We are making progress, but I see that the URL of the scanned
> >> pages ends with .html rather than .pdf.  See, for example, any of the
> >> links at:http://soaringweb.org/Soaring_Index/1945/PDF/1945_pdf_index.html.
>
> >> I don't know anything about computers, but wouldn't you use a .pdf
> >> suffix for a PDF file?  Or am I still looking in the wrong place?
>
> > In order to be able to move backward and forward from a given page to
> > another, I ended up embedding each page's PDF in a little HTML wrapper
> > that has links to other pages.  OK?
>
> > Any and all suggestions are encouraged, straight to
> > john.leibac...@gmail.com to keep the newsgroup lean.

>
> Well, I finally got it to work. The pages were showing an empty frame
> with a "click here to get the plugin" in Seamonkey (Firefox kin), while
> IE 7 showed an empty frame with a red X in it. I had to change Foxit, my
> pdf reader, to "display in browser" before the pages would work. I
> assume the same thing would work for Adobe Reader.
>
> This is quite workable, but it means I have to change the setting on my
> browser from my normal "display in separate window" to view the Soaring
> pages, then change back to my normal preference. It's also going to
> puzzle a lot visitors unless there are instructions to change their
> Reader setting! I have some suggestions, but there is no hurry to
> implement them. What you and Kathleen have produced is way more than
> what I had before!
>
>    1. find a way of displaying the pages without requiring the PDF
>       reader to "open in browser". Flash, maybe?
>    2. Or, offer users the option using the Reader outside the browser.
>       I have a wide screen monitor, and can easily park the reader
>       beside the browser. That lets me use a much taller display area
>       for the pages than I'd manage inside the browser.
>    3. offer a way to download the entire issue as one file. These older
>       issues aren't that big, and you have to download all the pages to
>       read an issue, anyway.
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

All,
SSA agrees that it is a wonderful thing that we can make the Soaring
magazine archive available on the web -- that is why SSA began
deveopment of such a project about a year ago, at considerable expense
to SSA. Please be advised that the materials posted on the Leibacher
site are not the archive that is under development by SSA and that
will be available within the next couple of weeks on www.ssa.org.
While John (or anyone else) is free to make use of materials that are
not currently covered by copyright, his site was not created with
SSA's permission or sanction (or even prior discussion with SSA) and
does not have authority to use materials that are still subject to
SSA's copyright. Accordingly, the SSA site -- when it goes on line
and is complete -- will be the only site where you can find the full
library of past issues of Soaring magazine. In the meantime, enjoy
John's site. He did get there first!

Phil Umphres, Chairman
The Soaring Society of America, Inc.

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