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Turn3400

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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I found a video demonstrating the five kinds of the mostly unpracticed take off
and initial climb forced landings. They also explain the relationship of this
gap in training to the high amount of low inadverted stalls and loss of control
in traffic pattern and landing emergencies. Any pilot who did not get training
in the above emergencies can sure benefit from it. Like I did. These
emergencies are completely different, That is why so many mistakes on them from
high time pilots.
I got it from www.landings.com, on the directory at end of page, click on
Supplies,
click on Complete Pilot Training. This is the only video of this nature in the
market. Enjoy it.

Gumbo

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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Jim Fisher

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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Why are so obsessed with this "forced landing" stuff?

This is at least the third post by you on this subject and you still aren't
generating any interest.

Just wondering,

--
Jim Fisher
North Alabama
Cherokee 180

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Gumbo

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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It's about the 20th post on the groups I'm following. He's hocking
some video tape on his website.

Larry Dighera

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 11:51:57 -0700, Gumbo
<jl0246N...@alpha.rwu.edu.invalid> wrote:

>It's about the 20th post on the groups I'm following. He's hocking
>some video tape on his website.

Perhaps the civil, considerate, adult response would be to politely
direct him to the rec.aviation.marketplace newsgroup.


Fredrik Thörnell

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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Jim Fisher wrote:
>
> Why are so obsessed with this "forced landing" stuff?

Shame really. At first I thought he had something to say. Now he's makin it
pretty obvious that it's all about the fact that he has nothing to sell. So
much so that he has to practically beg people to buy it on here. Sad
character.

/ft

Gumbo

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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That's been tried, hasn't worked. The more mature response would be to
ignore it, but hey, I'm bored at work.

Jim Fisher

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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"Larry Dighera" <LDig...@socal.rr.com> wrote in message news:SNgk5.68057>

Perhaps the civil, considerate, adult response would be to politely
> direct him to the rec.aviation.marketplace newsgroup.
>

Okay, but where would we find one of those? ;)

K Moss

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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HIGH TIME PILOT seems like a logical choice:)

Jim Fisher wrote in message ...

MACKLIN

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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Which? The polite adult or the newsgroup?


"Jim Fisher" <Var...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
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Charness88

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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Does this video have English subtitles?

Charness

Brett Rabe

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Aug 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/10/00
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Turn3400 wrote:
>
> They also explain the relationship of this
> gap in training to the high amount of low inadverted stalls and loss of control
> in traffic pattern and landing emergencies.

"High amount"??

Brett

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Turn3400

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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No way go away Mr. Gumbo. Either you cannot do those maneuvers better than the
video I mentioned, or you just cannot do them at all and want other pilots to
share your ignorance. I'm sure is the latter. Shame on you. Let me talk with
your dumb passengers that don't know you well.

For anyone who thinks they need more information about how to cope with the
deadly five common kinds of engine/airframe emergencies forced landings on take
off and initial climb, proclaim liberty from that ignorance. The video that
made Mr. Gumbo nervous is on www.landings.com, in the Supplies section of the
directory, the Complete Pilot Training site. Signed; A good CFI that is not
afraid of them.

Jack

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Aug 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/12/00
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Gumbo wrote:

> It's about the 20th post on the groups I'm following. He's hocking
> some video tape on his website.

"Hawking": offering for sale.

"Hocking" means he's trying to "pawn" it. And he is trying
to "'palm' it off"
on the rest of us.


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Jack

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Turn3400

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Aug 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/13/00
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Wrong! I had received many e mails from pilots wanting to know more about Take
Off Emergency Maneuvering.
Many pilots did not receive training in any of the main four kinds of take off
forced landings. What is the problem about trying to share knowledge about
emergencies that are extremely dangerous if we haven' practiced them well? We
have saved many lives already on pilots that had partial engine failures and
brought the airplane back instead of crashing them in the neightborhood, with
the expensive consecuenses. Besides the other things shown in the video like
crosswind landings tricks, ect. Enjoy it.


macho...@nosoup4u.net

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Aug 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/13/00
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On 13 Aug 2000 03:42:05 GMT, turn...@cs.com (Turn3400) wrote:

>Wrong! I had received many e mails from pilots wanting to know more about Take
>Off Emergency Maneuvering.
>Many pilots did not receive training in any of the main four kinds of take off
>forced landings. What is the problem about trying to share knowledge about
>emergencies that are extremely dangerous if we haven' practiced them well? We
>have saved many lives already on pilots that had partial engine failures and
>brought the airplane back instead of crashing them in the neightborhood,

Could you be more specific??? How many is "many"??? Where did they
occur? When??? Do you have references that will attest to your claim
of "saving many lives???

Joseph Coffey

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Aug 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/14/00
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Turn3400 <turn...@cs.com> wrote:

:Many pilots did not receive training in any of the main four kinds of

:take off forced landings. What is the problem about trying to share

:knowledge about...

and in another message, same thread

: For anyone who thinks they need more information about how to cope with the


: deadly five common kinds of engine/airframe emergencies forced landings on take

Well, how many kinds are there?

Frederic Woodbridge, III

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Aug 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/14/00
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Quoth turn...@cs.com (Turn3400) in
<20000812234205...@ng-bh1.news.cs.com>:
[fiddle faddle snipped]

How much do I dislike this idjiot and his posts? Let me count the
ways...ah never mind!

--
Frédéric Woodbridge, III
"A man's own tongue may cut his throat" - Sa'di

Gumbo

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Aug 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/14/00
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"How much do I dislike this idjiot and his posts? Let me count the
ways...ah never mind!"


I dislike thee to depth and breath and height...

a height from which you will surely fall upon take-off if you do not by
this guys video!!!

Jim Fisher

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Aug 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/14/00
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"Turn3400" <turn...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> Wrong! I had received many e mails from pilots wanting to know more about
Take
> Off Emergency Maneuvering.

Okay, "Turn," I'm interested.

My response to this: If I'm not at 1100 feet AGL when I take off, I ain't
gonna make the airport if I turn around so I better start looking elsewhere.
I'll look quickly 'cause I got about 2 minutes to find a suitable cushy
place to land straight ahead of me somewhere.

Above 1100, do a 45 degree bank and teardrop back to the runway.

Oh and don't stall when doing any of this. Bad form, you know.

I would be very interested in knowing what else I need to know if you would
be so kind. Us fellow pilots freely share this type of life-saving advice
on a daily basis around here.


Sincerely,

Lou Hinshaw

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Aug 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/14/00
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Jack <bar...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Gumbo wrote:
>
>> It's about the 20th post on the groups I'm following. He's hocking
>> some video tape on his website.
>
>"Hawking": offering for sale.
>
>"Hocking" means he's trying to "pawn" it. And he is trying
>to "'palm' it off"
>on the rest of us.

I don't know about that, but I did order the tape.
I agree that instructors fail to handle that area as well as I
for one think they should.
I have no connection with the author of the tapes.
Except I did order one.

FWIW

"The learned Fool writes his nonsense in better language,
but 'tis still nonsense."
B.Franklin 'Poor Richard Improved' (1754)

Lou H.
Semi-Learned, and very foolish,
Prolific inventor, now on VP prop
and cheap jet for GA
Lousy Salesman,
Incompetent businessman.
(Typical of the Breed)
Looking for both around
Tulsa OK, USA
(need working partner)

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