Af/Pak & Other News (3/11/2012)

[dump...@hotmail.com]

Army Sergeant Accused of Slaying 16 in Afghan Villages:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/12/world/asia/afghanistan-civilians-killed-american-soldier-held.html



US officials scramble to contain damage from Afghanistan shooting
spree:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/us-officials-say-army-soldier-suspected-of-shooting-more-than-a-dozen-afghans/2012/03/11/gIQAXKrb5R_story.html



Afghanistan denies alleged smuggling by air force:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501712_162-57394992/afghanistan-denies-alleged-smuggling-by-air-force/



Taliban suicide bomber kills 15 in Pakistan:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/11/taliban-suicide-bomber-kills-15-pakistan/



US air raids on Qaeda arms caches in Yemen: witnesses:

http://news.yahoo.com/us-air-raids-strike-qaeda-arms-caches-yemen-174235821.html;_ylt=AhNgpiU7PMIFSpDGqOEcjk.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNsNHRsbHZyBG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBGUARwa2cDYmVmY2JkOTUtYjFmZi0zYThiLTk5OWMtNjA1NTA3NDg2MGM0BHBvcwMyBHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyAzQ2Mzk0NjA2LTZiYTUtMTFlMS1iZjU3LWYzNjI0MDBiODc4OA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFrM25vcXFyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnMEdGVzdAM-;_ylv=3



U.N. envoy pushes ahead with Syria talks:

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/11/10639989-un-envoy-pushes-ahead-with-syria-talks



Syrians 'flee into Turkey after Idlib assault':

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ivEwEQryq6i2x0JKFaPO2dxobevQ?docId=CNG.db7a7bc7771c3b947131eb1acdc4f2f3.3d1



Djiboutian, US and French navies share best maritime practices:

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24244:djiboutian-us-and-french-navies-share-best-maritime-practices&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106



Indra Presents Its New Light Surveillance Aircraft at LAAD Show:

http://www.defencetalk.com/indra-presents-its-new-light-surveillance-aircraft-at-laad-show-40826/



IDF: Increase in Schalit prisoners' terror activity:

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=261365



Software Upgrades Enabled the Iron Dome’s High Rate of Interception:

http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=483&ArticleID=1005



Gaza rockets penetrate Israeli defense system due to Iron Dome
malfunction:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-rockets-penetrate-israeli-defense-system-due-to-iron-dome-malfunction-1.417864



Satellite Imagery Uncovers New S-300 Sites in Algeria:

http://defense-update.com/20120311_satellite-imagery-uncovers-new-s-300-sites-in-algeria.html



Reports: Spies stole info with fake Facebook account for NATO's
Stavridis:

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/10/10638276-reports-spies-stole-info-with-fake-facebook-account-for-natos-stavridis



Scandal as MoD reveal that Harriers were still being upgraded when
they were sold for parts to the US:

http://www.xairforces.net/newsd.asp?newsid=1007&newst=10

[SolomonW]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:34:06 -0700 (PDT), dump...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Software Upgrades Enabled the Iron Dome’s High Rate of Interception:
>
> http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=483&ArticleID=1005
>
>
>
> Gaza rockets penetrate Israeli defense system due to Iron Dome
> malfunction:
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-rockets-penetrate-israeli-defense-system-due-to-iron-dome-malfunction-1.417864

I still think that laser-based interception system is the only long term
solution. One big problem with the Iron Dome system is it is no good over
short range and the other is the cost of each shot.

[William Black]

On 12/03/12 05:57, SolomonW wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:34:06 -0700 (PDT), dump...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Software Upgrades Enabled the Iron Dome’s High Rate of Interception:
>>
>> http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=483&ArticleID=1005
>>
>>
>>
>> Gaza rockets penetrate Israeli defense system due to Iron Dome
>> malfunction:
>>
>> http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-rockets-penetrate-israeli-defense-system-due-to-iron-dome-malfunction-1.417864
>
>
> I still think that laser-based interception system is the only long term
> solution.

The long term solution remains a deal of some kind.

But first you have to find an Arab leader that can be trusted...


--
William Black

Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog...

[dump...@hotmail.com]

On Mar 12, 1:05 am, William Black <blackuse...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The long term solution remains a deal of some kind.
>
> But first you have to find an Arab leader that can be trusted...
>
> --
> William Black
>
> Free men have open minds

> If you want loyalty,  buy a dog...- Hide quoted text -

"Hamas is trying to arrange a cease fire, but is unwilling
to use force to stop the small terror groups from setting
up and firing rockets. Gaza is a small place, and Hamas
could set up roadblocks and patrols to keep people out
the northern Gaza areas where the rockets are fired from.
Hamas responds to criticism of its inaction by pointing
out that the smaller terror groups could launch their
rockets from residential areas of Gaza. The terror groups
are reluctant to do that because it risks bringing Israeli
fire to these launching sites. That could get Palestinian
civilians killed, and angry at the Palestinian terrorists.
But all the terror groups, including Hamas, wants civilian
deaths as this makes great anti-Israeli propaganda, and
the funerals are an opportunity to give more "hate Israel
and support us" speeches."

See:

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/israel/articles/20120311.aspx

[William Black]

On 12/03/12 16:48, dump...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 12, 1:05 am, William Black<blackuse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The long term solution remains a deal of some kind.
>>
>> But first you have to find an Arab leader that can be trusted...

> "Hamas is trying to arrange a cease fire, but is unwilling
> to use force to stop the small terror groups from setting
> up and firing rockets.

In that case they're not in control and there's no point in doing a deal
with them.

You don't negotiate with people who haven't yet proved that they can
deliver what is wanted.

[Eunometic]

On Mar 12, 7:05 pm, William Black <blackuse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/03/12 05:57, SolomonW wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:34:06 -0700 (PDT), dumpst...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >> Software Upgrades Enabled the Iron Dome¢s High Rate of Interception:
>
> >>http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=483&ArticleID=1005
>
> >> Gaza rockets penetrate Israeli defense system due to Iron Dome
> >> malfunction:
>

> >>http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-rockets-penetrate-...

>
> > I still think that laser-based interception system is the only long term
> > solution.
>
> The long term solution remains a deal of some kind.
>
> But first you have to find an Arab leader that can be trusted...

If you had a choice of spending 8 months in a Nazi concentration camp
like profesional holocaust spruiker Ellie Wissel did or 50 years in a
Palestinian refugee camp most would choose the former.

If the Arabs that don't trust Jews or the the shamefully high
proportion of Americans that are philosemitic halft that reflexively
kow tow to them (you know how you are) then the have good cause not to
trust either.

You are a very small man with a very lop sided small circumcised penis
William.

[Paul J. Adam]

On 12/03/2012 18:28, William Black wrote:
> On 12/03/12 16:48, dump...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> "Hamas is trying to arrange a cease fire, but is unwilling
>> to use force to stop the small terror groups from setting
>> up and firing rockets.
>
> In that case they're not in control and there's no point in doing a deal
> with them.
>
> You don't negotiate with people who haven't yet proved that they can
> deliver what is wanted.

I've heard tell that the Provisional IRA in the mid-to-late 1990s was
killing off certain of its own "Most Wanted" members faster than the
Loyalist scumbags could, let alone any pace at which the security forces
could arrest or kill them.

Why? Well, if you're negotiating a ceasefire, then you need everyone on
your side to *stop shooting*, otherwise your credibility is gone for a
generation and you hand the likes of Ian Paisley a PR triumph... which
means your "no surrender!" hotheads need to be persuaded, disposed of,
or driven out to form Continuity IRA / Real IRA / I Can't Believe It's
Not The IRA.


Adams and McGuinness, bastards though they are, managed it for PIRA.
Nelson Mandela, no saint despite his media canonisation, achieved it for
the ANC. Yasser Arafat failed dismally to do it for the Palestinians,
and they're still suffering from having nobody in charge who can
credibly turn the rockets and suicide bombers off.


--
He thinks too much, such men are dangerous.

[William Black]

On 12/03/12 20:08, Eunometic wrote:
> On Mar 12, 7:05 pm, William Black<blackuse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/03/12 05:57, SolomonW wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:34:06 -0700 (PDT), dumpst...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>

>>>> Software Upgrades Enabled the Iron Dome┬ High Rate of Interception:

>>
>>>> http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=483&ArticleID=1005
>>
>>>> Gaza rockets penetrate Israeli defense system due to Iron Dome
>>>> malfunction:
>>
>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-rockets-penetrate-...
>>
>>> I still think that laser-based interception system is the only long term
>>> solution.
>>
>> The long term solution remains a deal of some kind.
>>
>> But first you have to find an Arab leader that can be trusted...
>
>
> If you had a choice of spending 8 months in a Nazi concentration camp
> like profesional holocaust spruiker Ellie Wissel did or 50 years in a
> Palestinian refugee camp most would choose the former.

The point is that the people concerned don't get much of a choice.

The Jews certainly didn't.

The Palestinian Arabs have a choice.

> If the Arabs that don't trust Jews or the the shamefully high
> proportion of Americans that are philosemitic halft that reflexively
> kow tow to them (you know how you are) then the have good cause not to
> trust either.

When did the Jews of Israel ever stab someone in the back?

As a general rule they're utterly honest and utterly ruthless when
dealing with people.

>
> You are a very small man with a very lop sided small circumcised penis
> William.

Why does a Nazi boi always go for personal insults?

Now, tell us all about the Arab leader you'd trust...

[William Black]

On 12/03/12 20:17, Paul J. Adam wrote:
> On 12/03/2012 18:28, William Black wrote:
>> On 12/03/12 16:48, dump...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> "Hamas is trying to arrange a cease fire, but is unwilling
>>> to use force to stop the small terror groups from setting
>>> up and firing rockets.
>>
>> In that case they're not in control and there's no point in doing a deal
>> with them.
>>
>> You don't negotiate with people who haven't yet proved that they can
>> deliver what is wanted.
>
> I've heard tell that the Provisional IRA in the mid-to-late 1990s was
> killing off certain of its own "Most Wanted" members faster than the
> Loyalist scumbags could, let alone any pace at which the security forces
> could arrest or kill them.
>

Odd that.

I've heard it as well...

I wonder if Fred or Ray has, they're both great believers in the 'Evil
English bastards' school of historical thought.

[Dan]

On 3/12/2012 3:08 PM, Eunometic wrote:
> On Mar 12, 7:05 pm, William Black<blackuse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/03/12 05:57, SolomonW wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:34:06 -0700 (PDT), dumpst...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>

>>>> Software Upgrades Enabled the Iron Dome┬ High Rate of Interception:

>>
>>>> http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=483&ArticleID=1005
>>
>>>> Gaza rockets penetrate Israeli defense system due to Iron Dome
>>>> malfunction:
>>
>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-rockets-penetrate-...
>>
>>> I still think that laser-based interception system is the only long term
>>> solution.
>>
>> The long term solution remains a deal of some kind.
>>
>> But first you have to find an Arab leader that can be trusted...
>
>
> If you had a choice of spending 8 months in a Nazi concentration camp
> like profesional holocaust spruiker Ellie Wissel did or 50 years in a
> Palestinian refugee camp most would choose the former.

It is not clear whether you are denying or minimizing the Holocaust,
but it wouldn't surprise me if you are. The Palestinian refugee camps
are in Lebanon, Jordan, Gaza and West Bank, not Israel. The Nazi camps
were designed to kill the inmates. The refugee camps aren't. The
majority of refugees voluntarily left Israel after the 1948 war since
they didn't want to live in the new nation. NO inmate of a Nazi
concentration camp went there voluntarily.

Of course that all went over your head.

>
> If the Arabs that don't trust Jews or the the shamefully high
> proportion of Americans that are philosemitic halft that reflexively
> kow tow to them (you know how you are) then the have good cause not to
> trust either.

I defy you to diagram that statement.

>
> You are a very small man with a very lop sided small circumcised penis
> William.

Let me guess, you have a fetish for male genitalia?

Dan, U.s. Air Force, retired

[Sam]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:18:57 -0500, Dan wrote:

> Let me guess, you have a fetish for male genitalia?
>
> Dan, U.s. Air Force, retired

Dan, why would this interest you?

[dott.Piergiorgio]

Il 12/03/2012 21:17, William Black ha scritto:

>> You are a very small man with a very lop sided small circumcised penis
>> William.
>
> Why does a Nazi boi always go for personal insults?

"non ti curar di loro ma guarda e passa" (and leave 'em in the care of
gay falasha ;) )

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.