Af/Pak & Other News (6/7/2012)

[dump...@hotmail.com]

US thought Taliban had nuclear bomb in 2009: new book:

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/US_thought_Taliban_had_nuclear_bomb_in_2009_new_book_999.html



Panetta says US losing patience with Pakistan over terrorists:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0607/Panetta-says-US-losing-patience-with-Pakistan-over-terrorists



U.S. troops do the "vampire" shift to avoid Afghan sniper:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-afghanistan-sniperbre8560lt-20120607,0,2807729.story



Bombing kills 14 in Pakistan's Quetta: police:

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCABRE8560S220120607




Qaeda advertises for suicide bombers on web:

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Qaeda_advertises_for_suicide_bombers_on_web_999.html




OH-58 likely shot down in Afghanistan:

http://alert5.com/2012/06/07/oh-58-likely-shot-down-in-afghanistan/



Pentagon Chief Admits U.S. Is at War in Pakistan:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/drone-war-admission/




"Pakistan is a Powderkeg and Karachi is the Detonator":

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/pakistan-powderkeg-and-karachi-detonator





NATO: Central Asian Nations Approve Afghanistan Exit Routes:

http://www.defencetalk.com/nato-central-asian-nations-approve-afghanistan-exit-routes-43024/




India's 1000+ Military Helicopter Shopping List:

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/135801/india-shopping-for-over-1%2C000-military-helos.html




Iraq executes Saddam's chief guard and top aide:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iNToEqtb2LfADrCVmw3lJr0trZcg?docId=CNG.820731f7e8380482109b48415cf15a9a.01




Syrian Activists Report Wave Of Violence In Hama:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=154448093




Ban: UN monitors shot at trying to reach massacre:

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/ban-un-monitors-shot-1453779.html



Lebanon Fights Itself (Again):

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/lebanon-fights-itself-again



IAF strikes 2 weapons facilities in Gaza Strip:

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=272858



Unit 8200 and Israel's high-tech whiz kids:

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Unit_8200_and_Israels_high-tech_whiz_kids_999.html



New Cameras to Collect 'Invisible' Data:

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/135792/israel-testing-hyperspectral-camera-for-uavs.html




Russian PAK-DA bomber in doubt, says minister:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/russian-pak-da-bomber-in-doubt-says-minister-372687/




Malware hunter Kaspersky warns of cyber war dangers:

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Malware_hunter_Kaspersky_warns_of_cyber_war_dangers_999.html




Grrreat Grizzlies!:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2012/06/grrreat-grizzlies.html




Australian defence minister off-line in China to avoid cyber spying-
media:

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26069:australian-defence-minister-off-line-in-china-to-avoid-cyber-spying-media&catid=90:science-a-technology&Itemid=204



Korea: Northern Zombies Move South:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htiw/articles/20120607.aspx




US Navy Littoral Combat Ship Delivered Two Months Early:

http://www.defencetalk.com/us-navy-littoral-combat-ship-delivered-two-months-early-43046/



How to Prevent Drone Pilot PTSD: Blame the ‘Bot:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/drone-pilot-ptsd/



Despite outrage, security leaks may go unplugged:

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26059:despite-outrage-security-leaks-may-go-unplugged&catid=90:science-a-technology&Itemid=204




First SBIRS Satellite Exceeding Performance Expectations After One
Year on Orbit:

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/First_SBIRS_Satellite_Exceeding_Performance_Expectations_After_One_Year_on_Orbit_999.html




US warns debris genuine threat to orbital space:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/us-warns-debris-genuine-threat-to-orbital-space-372669/




Panetta Green Lights First Cyber Operations Plan:

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120606/DEFREG02/306060010/Panetta-Green-Lights-First-Cyber-Operations-Plan?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE




Army Guard Unit Among First Army-Wide to Receive Updated Battle Tanks:

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/135785/us-army-begins-receiving-updated-armored-vehicles.html



Spy-Satellite Merger Fizzles, Preventing Space Monopoly:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/spysat-smackdown/



U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee questions F-35′s electronic
warfare:

http://alert5.com/2012/06/07/u-s-senate-armed-services-committee-questions-f-35s-electronic-warfare-capability/




Supersonic mini-drone aims for jet speed record:

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/06/05/reuters-tv-supersonic-mini-drone-aims-for-jet-speed?videoId=235831381&videoChannel=118065



Pentagon Push Gives Face Transplants a Major Lift:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/ucla-face-transplant/




H5N1 Novel Virus Created in Kobe, Someone Tried to Smuggle it:

http://pennypincherpersonalfinance.blogspot.com/2012/06/h5n1-novel-virus-created-in-kobe.html

[Bill]

In article <0c67fae9-aa8c-43f0-a3e1-2f51bec65174
@qs4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, dump...@hotmail.com says...

> Panetta says US losing patience with Pakistan over terrorists:
>
> http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0607/Panetta-says-US-losing-patience-with-Pakistan-over-terrorists

> Pentagon Chief Admits U.S. Is at War in Pakistan:
>
> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/drone-war-admission/

Goodness this is taking some time to sink in.

I seem to remember saying 'Pakistan IS the problem' several years ago.

--
William Black

When you hear the words 'Our people are our greatest asset' then it's
time to leave.

[Andrew Swallow]

On 07/06/2012 22:59, Bill wrote:
> In article<0c67fae9-aa8c-43f0-a3e1-2f51bec65174
> @qs4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, dump...@hotmail.com says...
>
>> Panetta says US losing patience with Pakistan over terrorists:
>>
>> http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0607/Panetta-says-US-losing-patience-with-Pakistan-over-terrorists
>
>> Pentagon Chief Admits U.S. Is at War in Pakistan:
>>
>> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/drone-war-admission/
>
> Goodness this is taking some time to sink in.
>
> I seem to remember saying 'Pakistan IS the problem' several years ago.
>

Yes but we did not have sufficient troops to fight Iraq, Afghanistan and
Pakistan simultaneously. Now we are bring troops home from 2 of the 3
Pakistan needed to behave.

Andrew Swallow

[Jeffrey Hamilton]

I simply have to top post on this one, @dumpster4, your links are absolutely
great . Not only do I really do enjoy reading what is happening in the
various regions our warriors are in, but I really enjoy knowing what the
politics and how they apply to pur boys are, in those regions too !

cheers....Jeff

[Jeffrey Hamilton]

Bill wrote:
> In article <0c67fae9-aa8c-43f0-a3e1-2f51bec65174
> @qs4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, dump...@hotmail.com says...
>
>> Panetta says US losing patience with Pakistan over terrorists:
>>
>> http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0607/Panetta-says-US-losing-patience-with-Pakistan-over-terrorists
>
>> Pentagon Chief Admits U.S. Is at War in Pakistan:
>>
>> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/drone-war-admission/
>
> Goodness this is taking some time to sink in.
>
> I seem to remember saying 'Pakistan IS the problem' several years ago.

The good news is Jack L. enjoyed this subject, big time and he also paid
attention to the big picture in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Damn, the dude was smart and damn, I really do miss his posts...

cheers....Jeff

[Dean]

On Jun 7, 9:06 pm, Andrew Swallow <am.swal...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 07/06/2012 22:59, Bill wrote:
>
> > In article<0c67fae9-aa8c-43f0-a3e1-2f51bec65174

> > @qs4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, dumpst...@hotmail.com says...

>
> >> Panetta says US losing patience with Pakistan over terrorists:
>

> >>http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0607/Panetta-says...

>
> >> Pentagon Chief Admits U.S. Is at War in Pakistan:
>
> >>http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/drone-war-admission/
>
> > Goodness this is taking some time to sink in.
>
> > I seem to remember saying 'Pakistan IS the problem' several years ago.
>
> Yes but we did not have sufficient troops to fight Iraq, Afghanistan and
> Pakistan simultaneously.  Now we are bring troops home from 2 of the 3
> Pakistan needed to behave.
>
> Andrew Swallow

Well yes, Pakistan IS a problem. But they are a nuclear-armed problem.

[Mr.Smartypants]

They're only a "problem" because Amerikkka refuses to stay home and
mind it's own fuckin' bidnez.

[Bill]

In article <fd49212e-def7-4898-9cd8-5a95470e4693
@m2g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>, bunghol...@lycos.com says...

What do you suggest should be done about countries training, equipping
and arming terrorists?

[Andrew Swallow]

Before 9/11 the USA was going home.

Andrew Swallow

[Mr.Smartypants]

On Jun 9, 3:28 pm, Bill <blackuse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <fd49212e-def7-4898-9cd8-5a95470e4693

> @m2g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>, bunghole-jon...@lycos.com says...

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 5:37 am, Dean <damark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 7, 9:06 pm, Andrew Swallow <am.swal...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 07/06/2012 22:59, Bill wrote:
>
> > > > > In article<0c67fae9-aa8c-43f0-a3e1-2f51bec65174
> > > > > @qs4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, dumpst...@hotmail.com says...
>
> > > > >> Panetta says US losing patience with Pakistan over terrorists:
>
> > > > >>http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0607/Panetta-says...
>
> > > > >> Pentagon Chief Admits U.S. Is at War in Pakistan:
>
> > > > >>http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/drone-war-admission/
>
> > > > > Goodness this is taking some time to sink in.
>
> > > > > I seem to remember saying 'Pakistan IS the problem' several years ago.
>
> > > > Yes but we did not have sufficient troops to fight Iraq, Afghanistan and
> > > > Pakistan simultaneously.  Now we are bring troops home from 2 of the 3
> > > > Pakistan needed to behave.
>
> > > > Andrew Swallow
>
> > > Well yes, Pakistan IS a problem.  But they are a nuclear-armed problem.
>
> > They're only a "problem" because Amerikkka refuses to stay home and
> > mind it's own fuckin' bidnez.
>
> What do you suggest should be done about countries training,  equipping
> and arming terrorists?

Like Amerikkka and Israel have been doing?

[Bill]

In article <5118e365-d825-4f2e-87cd-e77c58b188e2
@m2g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>, bunghol...@lycos.com says...

Neither country trains terrorists and slips them into foreign lands in a
covert manner in order to slaughter civilians.

[Dean]

Another freaking troll.

[Andrew Swallow]

On 10/06/2012 02:32, Mr.Smartypants wrote:
{snip}

>> What do you suggest should be done about countries training, equipping
>> and arming terrorists?
>
>
> Like Amerikkka and Israel have been doing?

Plonk

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Nonsense.

The U.S. *regularly* slaughters civilians, in THEIR country HALFWAY around
the world and has been doing so for many *decades*.

Terror...SOP for U.S. and Jewish Israel
Torture...SOP for U.S. and Jewish Israel
Assassination of civilians in countries we are not at war with...SOP for U.S. and Jewish Israel

War for 1) Oil and 2) Jewish Israel
;-)


--
Each person has an individual responsibility to
determine if his actions are moral, and no government
or army may ever take that responsibility away.

definition:
murder - the unjustifiable (immoral) killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.

[Bill]

In article <Q9adnfOYBq4Eb0jS...@supernews.com>,
dr...@jameford.edu says...

Oh dear.

I realise that English obviously your subject, but which part of :

"Neither country trains terrorists and slips them into foreign lands in
a covert manner in order to slaughter civilians."

Didn't you understand?

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

oh sure, son.

First, you tried to divert from the previous poster who said the U.S.

"refuses to stay home and mind it's own fuckin' bidnez".

Second, you tried to redefine the word "terrorist" so that your beloved
U.S. and Jewish Israel are pure and always the good guys, the White
Knights to the rescue...a dishonest (lying) Fairy Tale depiction.

but we've seen repeatedly that you are a liar
;-)

[Bill]

In article <yqWdna060q7dPkvS...@supernews.com>,

Now, while I appreciate your rabid desire to trash the USA and all its
works, why on earth are you defending Pakistan?

Read the header and address the issue you smug bastard.

"Neither country trains terrorists and slips them into foreign lands in
a covert manner in order to slaughter civilians."

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Son, that's a big fat Fairy Tale lie...both U.S. and Jewish Israel have
*always* done *exactly* that as Standard Operating Procedure.
;-)

[Bill]

In article <O4adnenOVYhy30rS...@supernews.com>,

Cite please.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Bill wrote:

> In article <O4adnenOVYhy30rS...@supernews.com>,
> dr...@jameford.edu says...
>
>>Bill wrote:
>
>
>>>"Neither country trains terrorists and slips them into foreign lands in
>>>a covert manner in order to slaughter civilians."
>>
>>Son, that's a big fat Fairy Tale lie...both U.S. and Jewish Israel have
>>*always* done *exactly* that as Standard Operating Procedure.
>>;-)
>
>
> Cite please.

oh sure

1. The U.S. and Jewish Israel train terrorists...see dictionary for "terrorist".
;-)

[Bill]

In article <TcOdnaZyDIPdyErS...@supernews.com>,

You exclude most of the statement.

The usual and expected dishonesty.

Why did I expect no better?

Your refusal to accept that Pakistan and, for another example, Iran act
in a fundamentally dishonest and corrupt way and conspire to murder
innocents when Israel and the USA pointedly do not do so is what makes
you so repellent.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Bill wrote:
> In article <TcOdnaZyDIPdyErS...@supernews.com>,
> dr...@jameford.edu says...
>
>>Bill wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <O4adnenOVYhy30rS...@supernews.com>,
>>>dr...@jameford.edu says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>"Neither country trains terrorists and slips them into foreign lands in
>>>>>a covert manner in order to slaughter civilians."
>>>>
>>>>Son, that's a big fat Fairy Tale lie...both U.S. and Jewish Israel have
>>>>*always* done *exactly* that as Standard Operating Procedure.
>>>>;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>Cite please.
>>
>>oh sure
>>
>>1. The U.S. and Jewish Israel train terrorists...see dictionary for "terrorist".
>>;-)
>
>
> You exclude most of the statement.

Yes, because you first must learn the definition of terrorist, son.

> in a fundamentally dishonest and corrupt way and conspire to murder
> innocents

The U.S./Jewish Israel do all of that too...it is the way of the world, son.

You want to redefine the words to exclude the U.S. and Jewish Israel.
terrorist
dishonest
corrupt
conspire
innocents

Who decides if a civilian HALFWAY around the world is innocent or dishonest?
If they dare to disagree with and defy U.S./Jewish Israel and *defend*
themselves when those countries butt in to their affairs then they are
declared non-civilian, terrorist, and not innocent.

Again son, the *root* cause:
The U.S. "refuses to stay home and mind it's own fuckin' bidnez"

Now go look up "terrorist", son...then get back to us.

[Bill]

In article <BKSdnfOSnMmfUErS...@supernews.com>,

dr...@jameford.edu says...
>
> Bill wrote:
> > In article <TcOdnaZyDIPdyErS...@supernews.com>,
> > dr...@jameford.edu says...
> >
> >>Bill wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article <O4adnenOVYhy30rS...@supernews.com>,
> >>>dr...@jameford.edu says...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Bill wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>"Neither country trains terrorists and slips them into foreign lands in
> >>>>>a covert manner in order to slaughter civilians."
> >>>>
> >>>>Son, that's a big fat Fairy Tale lie...both U.S. and Jewish Israel have
> >>>>*always* done *exactly* that as Standard Operating Procedure.
> >>>>;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cite please.
> >>
> >>oh sure
> >>
> >>1. The U.S. and Jewish Israel train terrorists...see dictionary for "terrorist".
> >>;-)
> >
> >
> > You exclude most of the statement.
>
> Yes, because you first must learn the definition of terrorist, son.

I know exactly what a terrorist is.

Unlike you I have lived in countries being blown up and shot up by them
for most of my adult life.

> > in a fundamentally dishonest and corrupt way and conspire to murder
> > innocents
>
> The U.S./Jewish Israel do all of that too...it is the way of the world, son.

Well no, they don't.

You're just lying.

[Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.]

Bill wrote:

> In article <BKSdnfOSnMmfUErS...@supernews.com>,
> dr...@jameford.edu says...
>
>>Bill wrote:
>>
>>>In article <TcOdnaZyDIPdyErS...@supernews.com>,
>>>dr...@jameford.edu says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <O4adnenOVYhy30rS...@supernews.com>,
>>>>>dr...@jameford.edu says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Neither country trains terrorists and slips them into foreign lands in
>>>>>>>a covert manner in order to slaughter civilians."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Son, that's a big fat Fairy Tale lie...both U.S. and Jewish Israel have
>>>>>>*always* done *exactly* that as Standard Operating Procedure.
>>>>>>;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Cite please.
>>>>
>>>>oh sure
>>>>
>>>>1. The U.S. and Jewish Israel train terrorists...see dictionary for "terrorist".
>>>>;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>You exclude most of the statement.
>>
>>Yes, because you first must learn the definition of terrorist, son.
>
>
> I know exactly what a terrorist is.

Quite apparently not, son, so post your definition.