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dump...@hotmail.com

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Oct 11, 2011, 6:47:12 PM10/11/11
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Afghanistan rejects UN allegations of detainee abuse:

http://news.yahoo.com/afghanistan-rejects-un-allegations-detainee-abuse-201925510.html;_ylt=Ant3MONHAgID2ViZlS9bbHMBxg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTQyNTlidHVtBG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBXb3JsZFNGIEFzaWFTU0YEcGtnA2ViMjQ0OGUxLWMwYzctM2U0NC1hODAwLWE2ZGQxNzE1ZGNmYQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDdG9wX3N0b3J5BHZlcgNiNDE2NjcxMC1mNDQ2LTExZTAtYjk2Ny05ZmQ3NGI0MTA0YmI-;_ylg=X3oDMTFvODAybTAwBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

Opium Surges in Afghanistan:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204450804576625003263984480.html?mod=WSJ_World_LEFTSecondNews

Little Guys Do The Heavy Lifting:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20111011.aspx


XM25 feedback demonstrates lethality:

http://www.defencetalk.com/xm25-feedback-demonstrates-lethality-37596/


Taliban bomb kills 7 Afghans in Kandahar: officials:

http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-bomb-kills-7-afghans-kandahar-officials-183008306.html;_ylt=AsazdMucVklisIsDLPleAGEBxg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTQzbGZxZDA5BG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBXb3JsZFNGIEFzaWFTU0YEcGtnA2EzZjlkMGZmLWI0MmYtMzM2OS05OTIwLWNhYjdlNmVmMzkyMARwb3MDMTAEc2VjA3RvcF9zdG9yeQR2ZXIDNTY5ZGI2YjAtZjQzNy0xMWUwLTk3ZmYtMjBmNDM4NDZmZThk;_ylg=X3oDMTFvODAybTAwBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

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Libya news:

Libyan Rebels' Books Detail Their Fighters' Pay:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204450804576623260411623644.html?mod=WSJ_World_LEFTSecondNews

Libya: Pro-Gaddafi fighters filmed firing Scud missile in battle for
Sirte:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/libya-video/8815069/Libya-Pro-Gaddafi-fighters-filmed-firing-Scud-missile-in-battle-for-Sirte.html

NATO says extent of resistance in Libya surprising:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h0629_SoNSv3YcjasvykdI-nkbaQ?docId=e7bebcc2ba304359ba2ff474e3955b69

U.S. officials: Libya may have lost anti-aircraft missiles:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-10-09/libyan-portable-missiles-missing/50713752/1

NATO 'pretty close' to ending Libya mission: Rasmussen:

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/NATO_pretty_close_to_ending_Libya_mission_Rasmussen_999.html

Anti-Kadhafi fighters seize Sirte police HQ:

http://news.yahoo.com/libya-forces-drive-centre-kadhafi-hometown-060645624.html;_ylt=Av6CwIuJSCAq5LViUv2LfelvaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTNybGthNmlhBG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBXb3JsZFNGBHBrZwNmOGU2MzllYS1iNDYzLTNjYWUtODgyMy1hYzcyM2ZhZWE3ZWQEcG9zAzE1BHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyAzYzOTFkYzcwLWY0NDEtMTFlMC1iYjNmLTNkYzgwNDA1NjUzMQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTFqOTI2ZDZmBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZARwdANzZWN0aW9ucw--;_ylv=3

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And, in other news:

US: Iran faction plotted to kill Saudi ambassador :

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44861178/ns/us_news-security/#.TpSlnbJJKIw

No Cell Towers, Big Problem: Army Aims for Battlefield Network:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/no-cell-towers-big-problem/

US Army Deploys First STARLite Radar on Persistent Threat Detection
System:

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/US_Army_Deploys_First_STARLite_Radar_on_Persistent_Threat_Detection_System_999.html

Iron Dome scored 90 per cent plus kill rate in recent combat firings:

http://www.janes.com/products/janes/defence-security-report.aspx?ID=1065930433&channel=defence

How to Stop a Missile From Hitting a Tank? Shoot It Down:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/rpg-tank-defense/

Anti Bacterial Military Tent Walls:

http://defensetech.org/2011/10/11/anti-bacterial-military-tent-walls/

PLA Air Force Denies Rumors of Experimental Jet Crash:

http://www.defencetalk.com/pla-air-force-denies-rumors-of-experimental-jet-crash-37570/

Po Hang Retires To The Tropics:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htproc/articles/20111011.aspx

Army: You Sure We Won’t Fight Another Ground War?:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/army-fights-budget-cuts/

PICTURE: V-22 tiltrotor, version 2.0:

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2011/10/picture-v-22-tiltrotor-version.html

US Army, Marines Join Up To Save JLTV:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/awx/2011/10/11/awx_10_11_2011_p0-380207.xml&headline=US%20Army,%20Marines%20Join%20Up%20To%20Save%20JLTV&channel=defense

Israel, Hamas Reach Deal on Captured Soldier:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203499704576625183598972532.html?mod=WSJ_World_LEFTSecondNews

Huge Warplanning Tablet Does Everything But Shoot:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/warplanning-tablet/

Anger grows at Egypt military in Christian deaths:

http://news.yahoo.com/anger-grows-egypt-military-christian-deaths-201754110.html;_ylt=Ank45YXt7P4.QB1TuTwRSLsLewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTQ4NXMydnNxBG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBXb3JsZFNGIE1pZGRsZUVhc3RTU0YEcGtnA2JlZTZlNGI2LWE4ZTktM2FkYy05N2VmLTBhMDU5MTNhMDY2YQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDdG9wX3N0b3J5BHZlcgMyNjM4YjFlMC1mNDQ3LTExZTAtYjdiYi0xZjQwMDU4YzYzNjI-;_ylg=X3oDMTF2Y3Y5NDF0BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxtaWRkbGUgZWFzdARwdANzZWN0aW9ucw--;_ylv=3

Ukraine jails Tymoshenko for 7 years, irks EU, Russia:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41293679/ns/world_news-europe/#.TpSl9LJJKIw

Sikorsky’s Next Gen Helos:

http://defensetech.org/2011/10/11/sikorskys-next-gen-helos/

ICBM Killer S-500 Falls Behind:

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htada/articles/20111011.aspx

M113 Replacement Taking New Importance for the Army:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a3f35c7a5-110f-40ff-a43f-8cdac09e75ce&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

Army Wants to See Potential Scout Choppers Fly:

http://defensetech.org/2011/10/10/army-wants-to-see-potential-scout-choppers-fly/

Army to Update Cold War Era Counterfire Radar:

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/blog/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=549

Welcome Our New Autonomous Robot Overlords!:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a76a601e6-affd-40f1-bfe4-f8c6b44e491b&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

Get Hacked, Don’t Tell: Drone Base Didn’t Report Virus:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/drone-virus-kept-quiet/

Andrew Swallow

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Oct 11, 2011, 7:54:47 PM10/11/11
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On 11/10/2011 23:47, dump...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Army: You Sure We Won’t Fight Another Ground War?:
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> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/army-fights-budget-cuts/


Libya is basically a ground war. NATA is doing the bombing but we are
lucky that the Libyans are providing the ground troops. We may not be
so lucky next time.

There are problems with Pakistan and Iran.

Andrew Swallow

William Black

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Oct 11, 2011, 8:01:46 PM10/11/11
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Iran isn't a problem, Iran is a nuisance.

Pakistan is a problem, but it isn't really resolvable with troops.


--
William Black

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george152

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Oct 11, 2011, 9:04:20 PM10/11/11
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On 12/10/2011 1:01 p.m., William Black wrote:
> On 12/10/11 00:54, Andrew Swallow wrote:
>> On 11/10/2011 23:47, dump...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Army: You Sure We Won�t Fight Another Ground War?:

>>>
>>> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/army-fights-budget-cuts/
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>> Libya is basically a ground war. NATA is doing the bombing but we are
>> lucky that the Libyans are providing the ground troops. We may not be so
>> lucky next time.
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>> There are problems with Pakistan and Iran.
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> Iran isn't a problem, Iran is a nuisance.

Iran has just tried to assassinate some-one inside the US...
Scarcely a nuisance...

Fred Sobotkin

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Oct 11, 2011, 11:37:48 PM10/11/11
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:04:20 +1300, george152 wrote:

> Iran has just tried to assassinate some-one inside the US...
> Scarcely a nuisance...

Prrof? NONE? STFU.

William Black

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Oct 12, 2011, 7:51:03 AM10/12/11
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Nope, just a nuisance.

Iran uses assassination as a matter of state policy, and has done for
years.

They've murdered people all over the world, either directly or through
their twin proxies of Hamas and Hezbollah, as a matter of routine.

What's interesting about this one is the clumsy attempt to sub contract
the murders.

The Iranians have never been seen to act in a subtle manner like this
before, as a general rule they don't care who knows that they murder
people when it suits them.

The Quds Force, the Iranian government agency the US says are behind
this attempted attack, have been active in South America for years and
were almost certainly behind the attack by Hezbollah on the Jewish
Centre in Buenos Aires which resulted in the deaths of 85 people.

Dean Markley

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Oct 12, 2011, 12:17:56 PM10/12/11
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On Oct 12, 7:51 am, William Black <blackuse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/10/11 02:04, george152 wrote:
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> > On 12/10/2011 1:01 p.m., William Black wrote:
> >> On 12/10/11 00:54, Andrew Swallow wrote:
> >>> On 11/10/2011 23:47, dumpst...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Army: You Sure We Won t Fight Another Ground War?:
Perhaps the leaders of Iran are getting a bit desperate now?

SolomonW

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Oct 13, 2011, 5:14:52 AM10/13/11
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT), dump...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Israel, Hamas Reach Deal on Captured Soldier:
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> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203499704576625183598972532.html?mod=WSJ_World_LEFTSecondNews

Just to keep a 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons must cost a
lot of money.

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