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From: "Mike Kanze" <mikeka...@comcast.net>
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Subject: A Sea Story (OT and long)
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Although off-topic and long, I thought the below interesting enough that 
this group might enjoy. It is a good illustration of the complexities of 
operating the large tilting aerodrome (even when not at flight quarters), 
the value of knowing your stuff, and classy leadership.

I do not know personally any of the protagonists in this story. Rather I 
received this from Roger Picquet, a classmate of mine from our Midshipman 
days at the University of California, Berkeley NROTC unit.

After a stint as a skimmer, Roger left the Navy for the law and is now a 
Superior Court judge in San Luis Obispo County, California.

-- 
Mike Kanze

436 Greenbrier Road
Half Moon Bay, California 94019-2259
USA

650-726-7890

"One phrase that no Member of Congress should ever use lightly is 'political 
hack.' The ironic possibilities are too rich."

- Wall Street Journal (3/7/05)

******

A 30 plus year old Sea Story..Although a bit long, it is Interesting! The 
short short version reads....Balls!

A true one experienced by Frenchy Corbeille USN(Ret)

It was Sunday afternoon, early in the month of August, 1968 when USS 
Forrestal (CVA-59) was making her way through the Western Mediterranean 
during the first days of a 7-month cruise.

I was Officer of the Deck (OOD) on the 1200 - 1600 bridge watch, there were 
no ship's evolutions ongoing, and things looked like a "ho-hum" Sunday 
afternoon at sea.   We were hosting the prospective Commanding Officer of 
USS
Independence and our CO had gone with him to the Captain's In-Port Cabin. 
Prior to departing the bridge the CO and I had conversed briefly and one of 
the subjects breeched was that we had been in the Mediterranean for more 
than a week now and we had not yet seen one of those pesky Russian trawlers. 
Our Navy had come to hope not to see one because they had a way of getting 
in the way whenever we had things to do, such as flight operations, or 
underway replenishment.    This lack of encounter was about to change.

At about 1500 I called the CO to advise him that we had picked up an 
unidentified surface contact on radar, range 22,000 yards (11 nautical 
miles).    It appeared to be on our reciprocal course at a speed of 8 knots 
and in the absence of any changes, the closest point of approach (CPA) would 
be 6,000 yards on our port beam.   "Very Well" and the customary "Thanks, 
Frenchy" constituted the CO's response.

I had no more than hung up the phone when  the contact changed course. I 
could identify 2 sticks over the horizon,  looking through the 7X50 OOD 
standard equipment Bausch & Lomb's, but could make out nothing of the 
vessel.    However, the two sticks bore a strong resemblance to the pictures 
we had on the bridge of known trawlers that had frequented these
waters.    I called the captain back to advise him that the unidentified 
contact had indeed made a 90-degree course change, was still doing 8 knots, 
and his present course/speed would take him across our bow at 6,000 yards (3 
miles).   We were doing 20 knots, on some kind of a "sustained speed 
exercise" for the engineers, and preferred to alter neither course nor
speed unless absolutely necessary.    I advised the captain of my suspicions 
concerning the vessel's identity and advised him that I had ordered the 
Intelligence sighting team to the bridge.    It being a Sunday stand down 
with little to occupy the idle time, we soon had the entire Intelligence 
staff scattered about on the bridge and the signal bridge, with a few photo 
types thrown in.

The contact was still hull-down over the horizon but the visible masts more 
and more took on the resemblance of our Russian trawler pictures.    I also 
advised the captain that, in accordance with the International Rules of the 
Road, Forrestal was the privileged vessel; the vessel crossing our bow was 
coming from our port side and was therefore the "Burdened" vessel.    In
accordance with the Rules, the privileged vessel is REQUIRED to maintain 
course and speed.   The Burdened vessel is responsible for maneuvering as 
necessary to avoid collision.    The Captain said "Very Well, Call me back 
if he does anything funny, and let me know what the intelligence folks come 
up with."

 Only moments later I was back on the phone, advising the Captain that we 
had positive ID on a Russian ELINT (Electronics Intelligence) trawler, and 
he had indeed done something "funny" -  He had reached our intended track at 
a range of 6,000 yards, and had then executed another 90-degree turn to 
port;   he was now on the same course as Forrestal, dead ahead, at speed 8 
knots.   So we had a 12-kt speed advantage, and 3 miles to contact.    That 
meant that in 15 minutes one or the other of us must turn or he, the Russian 
trawler, would get run over.     I advised the captain that in accordance 
with the International Rules, he was burdened when he came in from our port 
bow.    Now that we are on a course to overtake him, he would like us to 
believe that Forrestal, as the overtaking vessel, is the newly ordained 
BURDENED vessel.   I reminded the captain of another clause in the rules 
that says once a vessel is burdened, it may not maneuver to shift the burden 
to the other vessel.   He stays burdened until danger of collision is past. 
The captain agreed with my assessment and asked what I
recommended we do.    I recommended we hold course and speed until 
"EXTREMIS" - that sketchy point at which somebody has to do something or 
there's going to be a crunch, then order up "All Back Emergency Full", 
"Right Full Rudder", and we would miss him.   I had identified that point as 
400 yards astern but threw in 100 yards for cushion.    The captain once 
more came back with his cheerful "Very Well" and added "if he's still there 
at 1,000 yards, give me a call back."    "AYE AYE, Sir!"    Now we've eaten 
up about 1/3 of our cushion and the squawk box came to life.    "Bridge,
Flag Bridge"   "When does Forrestal intend to maneuver to avoid that 
Privileged vessel ahead?"   There was no race by other members of the bridge 
team to answer that one, so I got it myself.    "Flag Bridge, Bridge - This 
is the Officer of the Deck speaking.  That vessel ahead is not privileged - 
he approached from our port side, therefore is the burdened vessel, and he 
can no longer maneuver to shift his burden to Forrestal." "Flag Bridge Aye"! 
I could envision some hot shot flag watch officer
digging the Admiral's shoe out of his ass, and smiled inwardly.  I didn't 
hear the Admiral's voice, but I knew he was watching from his favorite 
perch.

Somewhere about then I had the signal gang close up "Uniform" on both 
halyards - "U" is the international signal that says "you are standing into 
danger".  Then our  navigator got into it.    First he told me I was going 
to have to turn the ship and he was working on our new course.    Since he 
was a commander and I was a lieutenant, I explained as tactfully as I could
that we were not going to turn, leastways not to a pre-planned course.   We 
were the privileged vessel, and as such, were REQUIRED to hold course and 
speed.    Next thing I heard from him was "Mr. Corbeille,  I'm ordering you 
to turn this ship."    With no attempt at tact, I advised him "Commander, 
you cannot order me to turn this ship.    If you believe the ship to be 
sufficiently endangered, you, as Navigator, can summarily relieve me as OOD. 
Then you can turn left, turn right, or come dead in the water. But you 
cannot order me to turn.   Do you want to relieve me?"   Rather truculently, 
he then asked if the Captain knows about all this.    I told him yes indeed, 
and at contact range of 1,000 yards, I was to notify the Captain again. 
"You better call him again - right now!"    "No Sir, we still have a few 
hundred yards to go."

At this stage, I don't recall the exact time, the bridge relief crew was 
coming on deck, but no one was ready to be relieved.    I spied my relief 
OOD waiting in the wings and he wanted nothing more than to stay out of the 
way.   Admittedly, I got a bit nervous, and I called the captain back when 
the trawler was 1,100 yards ahead.    His only response was "I'm on my way 
up".    He arrived momentarily with the PCO of Independence following in his 
wake.    He hopped up in his chair, says "Boy, he is pretty close, isn't 
he."    Then he asked "and when do you plan to make your big move?"   I told 
him that if it closes to 500 yards, we can order up All Back Emergency Full, 
Right Full Rudder, and we will miss him.   He asked:  Is that what the book 
says?    I told him "No Sir, The book says 400 yards, but I was leaving in a 
little cushion.   He said "We need only to maneuver in extremis to MINIMIZE 
DAMAGE".   That is a slight departure from international rules, but was our 
standing order, arrived at specifically to contend with harassment vessels. 
This is kind of a delicate point here because International Rules of the 
Road says the "privileged vessel must maneuver when in extremis to avoid 
collision". U.S.S.R. (Soviet Union) was not signatory to the International 
Rules of the Road, therefore her vessels were not bound by them.  It must be 
pointed out that Russian ships, merchantmen and men-of-war alike, followed 
the international rules of the road anyway, and knew them well enough to 
"play chicken" with U.S. ships, mostly to our embarrassment.   That was a 
game that our Navy had long since tired of, hence the new guidance to 
maneuver only in extremis to minimize damage.   Naturally, it behooved one 
to be
absolutely certain that he was absolutely right, if he were going to take a 
Navy man-of-war down to the wire in a potential collision situation. I'm 
sure there are readers who have more background concerning our maneuvering 
instructions, but we believed we understood them perfectly.    I still 
believe that we did.

Having thus indicated his intentions, the Captain then asked "So how close 
can we take her?"  I told him 400 yards would provide a grazing situation, 
and then ordered the engine  room to stand by for Emergency Backing Bells. 
We were still closing  and had reached the 500-yard mark when the trawler 
put in left full rudder.  His rudder was not the size of a barn door - It 
had to have looked like the side of the barn itself!   That guy turned 90 
degrees left in a heartbeat!

We never flinched, never wavered, and the trawler passed close aboard to 
port - so close, if fact, that the hull was not visible alongside our flight 
deck.  All that was visible from the vantage point of our bridge were the 
two masts as they went rapidly down our port beam.    Then we launched a 
helo for some photo work and a big sigh of relief went up from the bridge. 
The navigator started lobbying for us to file a harassment report, but since 
we had altered neither course nor speed to accommodate the trawler, it was 
hard to make a case for harassment.   I wanted to make out a harassment 
report on the navigator but the CO calmed me down on that score.

The Prospective Commanding Officer (PCO) of Independence, bless his soul, 
took in the whole affair after arriving on the bridge with our Captain, and 
never interjected one word.   When it was all over, he moved directly in 
front of me and said, loud enough for almost everybody on the bridge to 
hear, "No one could have done better."  Our CO joined right in and said
"Frenchy, You handled that perfectly".  At that point I realized I wasn't 
going to be a lieutenant forever, my advice to the Captain had been sound, 
and I knew our Captain appreciated it.  My breathing gradually returned to 
normal.  For his part, Captain Hill, for that, as I recall,  was his name, 
went on to become CO USS Independence.   He assumed command while anchored 
in some Sicilian Bay, and when Independence stood out to sea "under new 
management", there was a Russian ELINT trawler, just outside territorial 
waters, making slight way on Independence's intended track.

A friend serving on that fine vessel told me that the new CO's order to CIC 
was "Combat, give me a collision course on that trawler at 30 knots!"    I 
heard the same refrain from several other people and I believe it to be what 
happened.     For our part,  we spent the remainder of our cruise unhampered 
in any way by any Russian flagged ship.   We continued to see an
occasional trawler, but when we came into the wind to launch and recover 
aircraft, they vanished as if by magic.   The word seemed to have leaked out 
that this carrier has an attitude problem - he'll run right over you! And 
the Chief Engineer was happy because he got his uninterrupted 4-hour 
sustained speed run at 20 knots.

Life was not the same for me after that.   Our captain made me "Command Duty 
Officer Underway".   I was already the General Quarters OOD and Sea and 
Anchor Detail OOD, so I wasn't sure what this new designation would lead to. 
I soon learned that I was to be on the bridge whenever Forrestal was in 
formation with other major combatants, (destroyers didn't
count, but cruisers did), and that I was to provide training to all 
prospective Command Duty Officers.

Anytime there was underway replenishment, there was a "formation", so I got 
to spend a lot of valuable time on the bridge, learning all I could absorb.

Our great captain, nameless up to now, was Robert Bemus Baldwin, born in 
Bismarck, North Dakota.

He was promoted to RADM upon leaving Forrestal, and the last time I spoke 
with him he was Vice Admiral Baldwin,  COMNAVAIRPAC.   I believe he lives in 
or near San Diego, and remains the most admired man of my 30-plus year Navy 
career.

CAPT R. CLAUDE  CORBEILLE USN (RET)

Castle Rock, WA 



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