MCAS Miramar
RageVF24
thought we might organize some sort of a social activity at the o'club after
the show friday or saturday. It would be nice to accually meet some of the
people on the newsgroup.
I'll be flying out on Friday morning.
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bp
Ogden Johnson III
: Is anyone here planning to attend the MCAS Miramar airshow this weekend? I
That would be great. I haven't been thrown out of an o-club since I was a
Corporal in '64. Would have been interesting, but I can't make it to
Miramar this weekend.
OJ III
Paul H. Lemmen
my speed) from Miramar and have never seen an airshow. Could ye
post more info?
Cheers,
Paul H. Lemmen
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(Translation for the illiterate:
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RageVF24 <rage...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>Is anyone here planning to attend the MCAS Miramar airshow this
weekend? I
>thought we might organize some sort of a social activity at the
o'club after
>the show friday or saturday. It would be nice to accually meet
some of the
>people on the newsgroup.
>
>I'll be flying out on Friday morning.
>
>check six
>bp
>
RageVF24
>my speed) from Miramar and have never seen an airshow. Could ye
>post more info?
>
The annual Miramar airshow is this weekend at MCAS (cringe) Miramar, san diego.
Friday is the military and press show, the regular show is saturday and sunday,
with a saturday night show. This is one of the largest airshows in the country,
and has a multitude of performers, from civilian acrobatics and warbirds to
military flight demos. As usual, the Blue Angels will be performing each
afternoon.
I've been there for the last 5 years, and it is always impressive. The o'club
is usually open after the show (the real reason to attend back when it was
NAS). In fact, last year on Thurs night, a bunch of buds (and ladies) from an
unnamed squadron were finally 'helped' out the door well past the 2am closing
time - but that story is classified.
hope to see fellow RAMNers there - we only need a way to recognize one another.
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bp
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rage...@aol.com (RageVF24) wrote:
> Is anyone here planning to attend the MCAS Miramar airshow this weekend? I
> thought we might organize some sort of a social activity at the o'club after
> the show friday or saturday. It would be nice to accually meet some of the
> people on the newsgroup.
>
> I'll be flying out on Friday morning.
I'm interested. If you happen to be an amateur radio operator, I suggest
146.52. If you've got an FRS radio, e-mail me and we'll pick a frequency.
Sorry, but I don't have an airband radio...
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Krztalizer
cells I have have to last me :)
Meeting a couple of Navy WW2 Aces at the F-14 static display, tho. CAPT Swede
Vetjasa (SBD hero and F-6F Ace, last Commanded NAS Mirarmar in at some point in
67/68), and CDR McWhorter, if he can make it. (He was at Torch and an F-6F ace
later).
MCAS Miramar's "First Marine Airshow!" -- wonder whatinhell that will be like.
The "Last Navy Airshow" was really good, and the "We mean it this time -- Its
REALLY the last airshow" was pretty good too.
Gordon
Woody
>
> Is anyone here planning to attend the MCAS Miramar airshow this weekend? I
> thought we might organize some sort of a social activity at the o'club after
> the show friday or saturday. It would be nice to accually meet some of the
> people on the newsgroup.
>
> I'll be flying out on Friday morning.
Hey, Rage... You sure you can make it all the way across the country
with that tennis court without developing a terminal hyd leak.
--Woody
(Hornet pilot ever at the ready with a cheap shot.)
Niraj Agarwalla
: Is anyone here planning to attend the MCAS Miramar airshow this weekend? I
: thought we might organize some sort of a social activity at the o'club after
: the show friday or saturday. It would be nice to accually meet some of the
: people on the newsgroup.
I didn't now Miramr was a MCAS. I thought it was NAS.
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Aye Baal
Ogden Johnson III
: I thought it was NAS also.
The BARC at work; the Navy moved out and the Marines got Miramar back to
replace their loss of El Toro and Tustin. The helo facility on Camp
Pendleton, of course, remains. Miramar was a Marine airfield in WWII, and
is featured in this month's Leatherneck magazine, now that it has returned
to its rightful place in the Marine family.
OJ III
RageVF24
>replace their loss of El Toro and Tustin. The helo facility on Camp
>Pendleton, of course, remains. Miramar was a Marine airfield in WWII, and
>is featured in this month's Leatherneck magazine, now that it has returned
>to its rightful place in the Marine family.
>
>OJ III
NAS Miramar transfered to MCAS Miramar 'officially' on 1 OCT 1997, but the
Marines had started transfering in a couple years before that.
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jett...@my-dejanews.com
What are some cool places to hang out in that area?
Ogden Johnson III
USNretCOOK
what happened to so many other bases here in so-cal....closed!!
Ogden Johnson III
: It's not BARC, it's BRAC stands for Base Realignment Closure Committee. Like
: what happened to so many other bases here in so-cal....closed!!
Thanks for your superfluous correction USNretCOOK. I had noted as I was
posting, and acknowledged my typo/brain fart when called on it by another
poster immediately. For what should be clearly evident reasons, I am
quite aware of who BRAC are and what they do. You are, it seems, a day
late and a dollar short, which IME is a trait of the Air Farce, rather
than the Navy.
USMCretOJIII
[Who wasn't going to bother to point out that so-cal had so many more
bases to *be* closed, but couldn't resist the temptation, since so-cal is
the place that the rest of the country loves to hate.]
[Except for DC, where I live, just outside, and work, just inside the
beltway in N. VA.]
John A. Weeks III
<USNre...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> It's not BARC, it's BRAC stands for Base Realignment Closure Committee. Like
> what happened to so many other bases here in so-cal....closed!!
Well, I don't think so-cal should complain...California and Texas have
so many more bases than other parts of the country that they were
essentially living off of government military welfare. There are no
Army/Navy/USAF/Marine bases in Minnesota, my current home state, and
only one base in Wisconsin (Camp McCoy), where I grew up. Both states
to have some reserve and guard bases, but these are mostly paid for
by local tax payers who have some of the highest taxes in the nation.
-john-
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Paul H. Lemmen
A fabulous treat! Was me first airshow and I found all the military there
(with the small exception of an exchange officer from the RN) kind,
competent upon questioning, and open to your enquiries. I was allowed inside
Marine tanks, hummers and other vehicles I was allowed to sit in an AV-8
trainer and was given a personal tour inside both a B-52 and a KC-135 by an
AF pilot young enough to be me son. (helped that he recognized me accent).
Never have I seen soldiers happily showing off their weapons, from side arms
to aircraft to all and sundry. I now have an invitation to return in future
to try out some of the small arms (especially the SAW) on the range.
Tis one of the things that makes America great....the military are not
afraid to show what they have or what they do to the general public.
Cheers,
Paul H. Lemmen
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>: It's not BARC, it's BRAC stands for Base Realignment Closure Committee.
Like
>: what happened to so many other bases here in so-cal....closed!!
>
Jim Strand
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>It's not BARC, it's BRAC stands for Base Realignment Closure Committee. Like
>what happened to so many other bases here in so-cal....closed!!
>
>
>
Should have been BARF!
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MSmith5048
Why, what was wrong with him? I went to Miramar in 1996 (Last Navy air show)
and had a great time. There was a German Tornado from Holloman and a German
Navy helo pilot training in San Diego there, they werew actually pretty cool
guys, as were all of the US pilots. The only UK representation was a solitary
RN Hunter, which perhaps explains the RN guys behaviour!
Mike
Paul H. Lemmen
he made some quite inappropriate comments about meself. I refrained from
rendering him into suet, being rather entertained by an Hispanic surnamed
Marine who promptly DIP'ed him. <G> Cheers,
Paul H. Lemmen
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Krztalizer
>Why, what was wrong with him? I went to Miramar in 1996 (Last Navy air show)
>and had a great time.
Didn't make it to last year's "Twilight (We mean it this time!) Last Navy
Airshow? :) It was impressive and well done as well.
Only bitch I have about this year's airshow (I went Friday) is the Media here
locally is brain dead -- I watched the coverage on three channels Friday night
and NONE of the local stations showed any of the MARINES in action, with the
exception of two short clips of the Harrier hovering. I would say the media
slighted the Marines -- I think they did a great show. The air/land assault
was a ..errr.... blast. Watching a pair of Abrams charge down the runway
blasting away with a scout force fanning out behind them was pretty cool. I
happen to like the MiG show the best, but the Marines put on a fine show. Only
thing I wish was that they could have included an LCAC, but I have no
complaints. Good job, jarheads (sorry, but that is the only way a Navy type
can compliment Marines).
For once, the Blues changed their routine this year, and gave us all a pleasant
thrill.
>There was a German Tornado from Holloman and a German
>Navy helo pilot training in San Diego there, they werew actually pretty cool
>guys, as were all of the US pilots. The only UK representation was a solitary
>RN Hunter, which perhaps explains the RN guys behaviour!
>
>Mike
Hey, Mike. Did you go to the 1988 airshow at Brown Field? /That/ was
spectacular.
Gordon
BlackBeard
<di...@gte.net> wrote:
>The RN type was a right wanker. Upon hearing my soft Northern Ireland accent
>he made some quite inappropriate comments about meself. I refrained from
>rendering him into suet, being rather entertained by an Hispanic surnamed
>Marine who promptly DIP'ed him. <G> Cheers,
>
Although over the years, I've met and become friends with some former
RAF types who now live here. And my mothers neighbors in Tralee were
mostly from England and were very nice people... I've also experienced
quite a bit of crap from both RN and RAF members over the years. When I
was in the Navy, a RN sub was sharing a pier with us. I got a whole bunch
of crap from a couple of them one night when I was moonlighting
(bartending). It was interesting the next day when I had to go onboard in
uniform and they recognized me as the bartender form the night before.
Also here, I've gotten surly remarks/reponses from some even when trying
start up a friendly game of darts.
With my red hair and stereotypical Irish looks and a name like Sean I
tend to get negative responses from the more simple types. And just like
some of the idiots here in the US, prejudice knows no international
boundries.
BlackBeard
Submarines once, Submarines twice...
Trying to reason with hurricane season, in the Mojave desert.
MSmith5048
>quite a bit of crap from both RN and RAF members over the years.
You get wankers in all walks of life, but I must confess that a lot of Her
Majesty's forces can't stand the fact that the US forces have about twice the
quality, and ten times the quantity, of kit. This usually manifests itself in
tales about how the poorly-equipped Brits managed to 'beat' betterquipped US
forces in exercises (they tend not to mention real engagements between UK and
US forces), but can manifest itself in rather worse ways, vis 2 Royal Marines
in San Diego after Purple Star '96 telling my ex-USN friend to F... off. It
boils down to them being underpaid, underequipped and under Schwartzkopf. Most
Brits, however, get on pretty well with GI's.
Mike
Paul J. Adam
<msmit...@aol.com> writes
>You get wankers in all walks of life, but I must confess that a lot of Her
>Majesty's forces can't stand the fact that the US forces have about twice the
>quality, and ten times the quantity, of kit.
Agreed on quantity, but you can argue quality.
The US has Mark 46, we have Sting Ray. Contest? What contest?
The US has some telling advantages (AAW is a prime one) but also some
serious inferiorities (ASW and MCM, for instance).
>Most
>Brits, however, get on pretty well with GI's.
I did when I worked with them (the 101st Airborne, July 1993). Good
guys. Friendly, likeable, generous (I was fending off food and drink the
whole time I was a "casualty" being evacuated) and very easy to deal
with and talk to.
Didn't agree with all of their tactics, some of their kit was awful
(some was very nice indeed - I _liked_ the M-16A2) and they seemed a bit
overly confident, but that's the worst I could say. It was a pleasure
working with them.
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praiseworthy...
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MSmith5048
Agreed...in certain areas.
>The US has Mark 46, we have Sting Ray. Contest? What contest?
Fair point, and Mk 50 didn't work too well.
>The US has some telling advantages (AAW is a prime one) but also some
>serious inferiorities (ASW and MCM, for instance).
Not sure about ASW, the USN has some excellent subs and sonar systems. That
said, ASW has been the RN's raison d'etre for many years. USN Avenger
minesweepers have UK minehunting system,IIRC. Granted, MCM is bottom priority
for them, but obviously it's difficlult for an MCMV to support a CVBG.
>Didn't agree with all of their tactics, some of their kit was awful
>(some was very nice indeed - I _liked_ the M-16A2) and they seemed a bit
>overly confident, but that's the worst I could say. It was a pleasure
>working with them.
Just finished reading Patrick Cordingley's DS book. He fell in love with the
USMC, really didn't want to go to VII Corps. As for kit, well, you said it,
M16A2/3 vs SA80? Not really a choice, is it?
Mike