Holding

[___P:Sir]

The 1 min timing (or 1½ min above 14.000 feet) - is that in Your opinion
inbound or outbound leg? Doc 8168 says "outbound no wind" - but that might
be a matter of definition, because all pro`s I asked, says Inbound...?
regards..
P.sir

[Ron Rosenfeld]

In the US, the timing is for the inbound leg. The timing for the outbound leg gets adjusted to achieve the 1 minute or 1 1/2 minute inbound leg timing:

Here is what the AIM says:

The initial outbound leg should be flown for 1 minute or
1 1/2 minutes (appropriate to altitude). Timing for
subsequent outbound legs should be adjusted, as
necessary, to achieve proper inbound leg time.

[___P:Sir]

"Ron Rosenfeld" <r...@nospam.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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Thanks - if it is like that in the US, it surely must be in Europe as well?

P.Sir

[Ron Rosenfeld]

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:15:25 +0100, "___P:Sir" <p...@granvista.dk> wrote:

>Thanks - if it is like that in the US, it surely must be in Europe as well?
>
>P.Sir

I have no way of knowing that. I have not trained in Europe and my only experience flying in Europe has been VFR.
However, my brief perusal of some documentation I have from Jepp which references the ICAO document 8168 leads me to believe that such may NOT be the case in Europe.

Corrections for wind effect paragraph seems to state that the adjustment required on the outbound leg, for heading and timing, is only such as to ensure the aircraft is established on the inbound track before passing the holding fix. This is quite different from the wording in the US AIM and implies that the inbound timing can be much less than the "still-air" 1 or 1 1/2 minutes.