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ChuckSlusarczyk

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Mar 5, 2002, 11:52:29 PM3/5/02
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This is the reply I got when I wrote to a Mr D Weiman who is listed as
publisher. What I got back was not a reply from Mr Weiman but a rant from
zoomie... As is my usual procedure when I recieve any correspondance from zoomie
,I will post my original letter and his response here in this public forum..

________________________________________________________________________________

zoom
Why are you responding instead of Mr Weiman? Is there a Mr Weiman? Is he not
capable of talking for himself? I wasn't talking to you so please mind your own
business, unless of course you and Mr. Weiman are one and the same...Please have
one of you clarify this situation. I will call the Feds tomorrow to turn my self
in...if in fact they are even interested. They weren't the last time you said
you reported me.
As a rant this is even worse then your last attempt,which was rated at a 5 or 6
on a scale of 10. Although this is the first reference to a "Hate Crime" I
believe you made but the rest is boilerplate vintage campbell. I give this on no
better then a 4-5.
To all of you who wonder why Ron W has a "what to do if zoomed site" ,you can
see if your not a professional at being zoomed ,getting a e mail like this could
unnerve you.

See ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

"evil didn't prosper because good men spoke and evil was nuts" anon

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NOW
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ODWC
GAW
CAW
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ADING
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Yet another hate crime from Slusarczyk. Your e-mail is now in the possession of
Federal Law Enforcement. By the way, have you ever even considered the liability
of trying to send someone to a site whose author has called for the death of a
person, and who knowingly publishes false data? Good grief, you are even
referring the same hate site that Fetters tried to blackmail us with (and for
which the FBI got involved). And yes, we have called the FBI about this message,
and are sending it to them as we write. Fetters killed nearly a dozen
people--nice company you associate yourself with. You are just like your
tactics... dishonest, deceitful and deluded.
I really can't believe you are that stupid, but some of your cheated customers
know better--as do the courts.
Further; I have previously ordered you to harass us no further with electronic
communications, as further communication is a violation of law--once a warning
has been issued--which it was (and has been documented), many times. The police
are being notified.

cc: Atty's
NCCS
FBI
FDLE
WHPD
USDOJ


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-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Slusarczyk [mailto:chuck...@adelphia.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:18 AM
To: publ...@aero-news.net
Subject: Sun n Fun



Publisher Dave Weiman wrote Sun 'n Fun officials a while back to ask them to
meet with Campbell and "...and come to some understanding. If he has questions,
we suggest that you answer them or plead the fifth. But not answering his
questions only raises suspicion."
Weiman continued, "As for the articles about some of your exhibitors, if Jim is
basing his articles on research and facts, you should applaud him for bringing
the issues to light. Regardless; it is not SUN 'N FUN's role to act as a
censoring bureau for the news written about its exhibitors. However, it is SUN
'N FUN's role not to promote those products which present a safety hazard to its
patrons. For that reason, we encourage you and the board to consider what Jim is
publishing, and do some research of your own."


Mr Weiman
Concerning your statements about the Officials at Sun n Fun ,some of it's
exhibiters and zooms articles based on "research and facts". My I submit that I
am probably one the exhibitors in zooms articles and may I also respectfully
submit that possibly you should also do some research of "your" own on this
matter. I feel that to date you have gotten just zooms side of things and have
not talked to any of the exhibitors for their side of the story. If you are
interested in bringing issues to light then may I suggest you first go to
http://www.cyberis.net/~jouster/ for some background of the zoom situation then
feel free to contact me for additional data the zoom never accounts for in his
"research".

Chuck Slusarczyk
CGS Aviation
Please Note New Email Address

ChuckSlusarczyk

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Mar 6, 2002, 7:42:58 AM3/6/02
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In article <a647a...@drn.newsguy.com>, ChuckSlusarczyk says...

>
>This is the reply I got when I wrote to a Mr D Weiman who is listed as
>publisher. What I got back was not a reply from Mr Weiman but a rant from
>zoomie... As is my usual procedure when I recieve any correspondance from zoomie
>,I will post my original letter and his response here in this public forum..
>

It appears that Mr Weiman is not a publisher for zoom but for another
publication. Does any one know what publication he writes for so I can forward
this email exchange to him? I would really like the opportunity to tell him my
side ,seems zoomie is against such free exchange of information. Ain't freedom
of speech wonderful! except zoomie don't like it when it works against
him...What a PHONY!! Always was always will be...

Se ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

"Credibility it was always about Credibility" chuck s

wmbjk

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Mar 6, 2002, 9:31:29 AM3/6/02
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http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Dave%20Weiman%20

http://www.worldairshownews.com/index.htm

http://www.worldairshownews.com/Weiman.html

http://www.worldairshownews.com/mwflyer/mfcovmain.html

wei...@mailbag.com


This should get you started Chuck. Most of us have mis-addressed a letter
before, but you're the first I've heard being reported to the FBI for it.
I'll be checking for your photo on the "most wanted" list. :-)

Wayne


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Ron Wanttaja

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Mar 6, 2002, 10:24:58 AM3/6/02
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On 6 Mar 2002 04:42:58 -0800, ChuckSlusarczyk
<ChuckSlusar...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>It appears that Mr Weiman is not a publisher for zoom but for another
>publication. Does any one know what publication he writes for so I can forward
>this email exchange to him?

I'm guessing it's the World Airshow News:

http://www.worldairshownews.com/Weiman.html

Ron Wanttaja

Daniel Grunloh

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Mar 6, 2002, 10:44:06 AM3/6/02
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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:


> As a rant this is even worse then your last attempt,which was rated at a 5 or 6
> on a scale of 10. Although this is the first reference to a "Hate Crime" I
> believe you made but the rest is boilerplate vintage campbell. I give this on no
> better then a 4-5.


Chuck I think you are being too hard on him! It's a good effort
with about two falsehoods per line. It's true the intensity
tapers off at the end and the actual threat level is low in
historical terms. He mentions no firearms and introduces little
new material so I understand your score. I give him 6 or 7 though
for the ability to pack so much lunacy in a single paragraph.

I've always been too generous. :-)

--dan grunloh


--
Daniel Grunloh (gru...@uiuc.edu)
http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~grunloh

Dylan Smith

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Mar 6, 2002, 12:03:53 PM3/6/02
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On 5 Mar 2002 20:52:29 -0800, ChuckSlusarczyk
<ChuckSlusar...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>and are sending it to them as we write <snip>
>Further; I have previously ordered you to harass us <snip>

I just can't help thinking of the Three Headed Knight from Monty Python's
Holy Grail whenever I see Zoom's "we" and "us" describing himself :-)

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Jim VanDervort

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Mar 6, 2002, 3:40:27 PM3/6/02
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"Daniel Grunloh" <gru...@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:3C863946...@uiuc.edu...

> ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
>
>
> > As a rant this is even worse then your last attempt,which was rated at a
5 or 6
> > on a scale of 10. Although this is the first reference to a "Hate Crime"
I
> > believe you made but the rest is boilerplate vintage campbell. I give
this on no
> > better then a 4-5.
>
>
> Chuck I think you are being too hard on him! It's a good effort
> with about two falsehoods per line. It's true the intensity
> tapers off at the end and the actual threat level is low in
> historical terms. He mentions no firearms and introduces little
> new material so I understand your score. I give him 6 or 7 though
> for the ability to pack so much lunacy in a single paragraph.
>
> I've always been too generous. :-)
>
> --dan grunloh
>
I didn't even see any phougoids, or delightful harmonys

assa9


ChuckSlusarczyk

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Mar 6, 2002, 11:03:08 PM3/6/02
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In article <u8cvkt...@corp.supernews.com>, "Jim says...


>I didn't even see any phougoids, or delightful harmonys

He usually save that for his "test" flights along with loops ,rolls and spins
with a delightfully obediant divergent stablility platform void of any nasty
habits. Then he'll say "it was a blast to fly this bird ,I used to own one once"
LOL!!!

See ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

"Credibility it was always about credibility" chuck s

ChuckSlusarczyk

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Mar 6, 2002, 10:53:02 PM3/6/02
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In article <u8ca23n...@corp.supernews.com>, "wmbjk" says...

>
>This should get you started Chuck. Most of us have mis-addressed a letter
>before, but you're the first I've heard being reported to the FBI for it.
>I'll be checking for your photo on the "most wanted" list. :-)
>
>Wayne

Thanks Wayne,
I wonder what happens if a advertizer doesn't pay his bill ??? LOL!! I waited
all day for the FBI to show up ,I even had coffee and donuts :-)

Thanks

Chuck RAH-15/1 ret

ChuckSlusarczyk

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Mar 6, 2002, 10:56:45 PM3/6/02
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In article <3C863946...@uiuc.edu>, Daniel says...

>Chuck I think you are being too hard on him! It's a good effort
>with about two falsehoods per line. It's true the intensity
>tapers off at the end and the actual threat level is low in
>historical terms. He mentions no firearms and introduces little
>new material so I understand your score. I give him 6 or 7 though
>for the ability to pack so much lunacy in a single paragraph.
>
>I've always been too generous. :-)
>
>--dan grunloh


You know Dan ,maybe we should start accounting for his advancing age sapping his
spirit. We'll have to give him a AARP factor in scoring LOL!!!

See ya soon

Chuck S

Christopher Brown

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Mar 8, 2002, 5:57:50 PM3/8/02
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I once received an email hizzelf informing me that the first
amendment was first and foremost for publisher's and that my
disagreeing with anything he posted was a violation of his 1st
amendment rights - wish I'd saved it.

Chris

RobertR237

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Mar 8, 2002, 6:52:39 PM3/8/02
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In article <3c8941ff....@news-byoa.prodigy.net>, cbro...@yahoo.com
(Christopher Brown) writes:

Sounds like some of the e-mails I have received which made threats of legal
action if I replied to his e-mail.


Bob Reed
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