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Editor, Nutflight Central

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Apr 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/23/98
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The Ol' Zoomer got the Primenet account taken down, but we're back at

HTTP://www.focus-asia.com/home/usaviator

with all the Zoom that's fit to transmit.

New servers will be online soon - Russia, Ireland, The Netherlands, The
Phillipines and Brazil!

Coming soon: the full text of Zoom's suit against RAH, Happy Miles suit
against Zoom, Tony's personal suit against Zoom, and megs and megs of
Zoom police reports!


In the meantime, here are the names of the RAH 15, co-defendants in
Zoom's latest suit!

Vernon Barr
Dan Grunloh
David Hyde
Richard Ilfeld
Happy Miles
John Ousterhaut
"Badwater" Bill Phillips
Charlie Porter
Anthony E.
Pucillo
Richard Riley
Bill Robie
Chuck Slusarczyk

Alan Staats
Walt Troyer
Ron Wanttaja

(Hang in there, folks! We'll have the full text of the
suit up soon!)


Editor, Nutflight Central


RobertR237

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Apr 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/23/98
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Close your eyes for a moment and imagine this scene:

You are flying along at 7500 ft. and your engine completely quits because YOU
drained all the oil out before you started. You get pissed off because someone
is obviously trying to kill you and pull back on the stick so hard and fast
that you both snap the controls and cause the plane to stall with a resulting
spin. Now spinning down with no hope of regaining control you grab your
parachute and throw it out the window because you are convinced whoever packed
it is trying to kill you too.

Would you think this person is a bit on the unbalanced side? Can you draw any
resemblance to the Zoomster? I sure as hell can! I just hope that he
doesn't take anyone else down with him.

Bob Reed
KIS Cruiser in progress...Oshkosh 2000 by Gosh!

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the
Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

David Hyde

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Apr 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/24/98
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Editor, Nutflight Central (usav...@letterbox.com) wrote:

>In the meantime, here are the names of the RAH 15, co-defendants in
>Zoom's latest suit!

[snip]
>David Hyde

Hey, do I get a t-shirt now?

Dave 'next witness' Hyde
na...@glue.umd.edu

Badwater Bill

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Apr 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/24/98
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>>David Hyde
>
>Hey, do I get a t-shirt now?
>
>Dave 'next witness' Hyde

Sure! I have a great one with a little chicken-shit paper airplane on
it that's soooo cute! I wore it in Zoom's face at Cooperstate. I'll
send you the file if you want to make yourself one! Go to the
computer store and get a T-shirt transfer package for your printer and
iron it on!

Badwater "Let the bastard sue me...... BBBWWWWHHHAHAHAAA ....I have
other 'Real' problems to worry about!" Bill

Alan Constant

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Apr 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/24/98
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I've been following the articles about Captain Zoom for the last few
months in R.A.H. - some of it is actually quite entertaining - better
than a soap opera. Much of it would be quite funny if the only one
harmed was himself.

It seems to me that for some reason aviation attracts an unusually large
number of "big story tellers" (Bull**** Artists), more than most other
fields of interest, including sport fishing where the art of the
"whopper" began.

Maybe it's the real or perceived dangers of aviation and skysports that
attracts them and the greater difficulty of disproving them - I can see
"wowing" an airhead bimbo at a bar with tales of derring-do, but these
guys seem to save the best BS for their brethren in the aviation
community - those people who are most likely to be able to "shoot them
down in flames"!

I think it's about time some of these prevaricators and perverters of
truth should be recognized and honoured for their vivid imagination,
creativity and the entertainment they give us "crashing" bores.

Someone should start a website called the "Captain Zoom Hall of Fame"
where we could nominate people for admittance. The nominations would be
posted and visitors could vote on the top four (or maybe ten) to be
inducted and enshrined each year.

The exploits must be original and contain at least 51% identifiable BS -
either stories of wild exploits they have actually told someone
expecting them to believe it (like the time they flew the Shuttle and
looped or barrel rolled it) or actual adventures which would not have
been, had it not been for the BS (ie. they would not have got those
Shuttle rides if they didn't con someone in NASA into believing that the
FAA has decided to license shuttle pilots and they are there to give
them their check rides).

Selling phony aviation magazine ads & subscriptions, advertising free
chicken then arresting anyone who takes it, impersonating an airline
pilot or perhaps pretending to be a parachute rigger have already been
done and are not admissable unless you can come up with a new and
original variation.

Stunts like trying to jump off of tall buildings don't count either -
unless you add a new twist like telling the arresting officers you are a
doctor, your beeper went off and you were just going down to get your
car to answer the emergency as fast as you could, then take their names
and tell them your patient is going to sue their ass for delaying you.

Inductees would receive a gold statuette like an "Oscar" (called a
"Zoomer" or "Zoomie"), only in the shape of the Hindenburg (a big bag of
gas that explodes), a free ride in a hot-air balloon, lifetime
subscription to a bankrupt magazine, a bill for unauthorized ads in
same, an autographed picture of Captain Zoom, a subpoena, threatening
e-mail messages, a free chicken dinner and best of all, they get to
accompany the Captain on one of his many Space Shuttle missions or when
he flight tests the B-2 bomber.


My nominee is (real):

A guy named "Snowdon" about 18 when I met him in 1986 and by that age
had flown or flown in virtually everything in the U.S. armed forces and
every WW-II machine still flying... most interesting was in Georgia
where he had a ride in an F-4U Corsair.....which was powered by a Rolls
Royce Merlin!!!! (Anyone got any info or pictures on that
conversion???). He also had a ride with the Blue Angels - when they flew
F-4 Phantoms (which would have put him under 10 years old at the time)
and he flew with the CAF Snowbirds --- the year their Tutors were in for
overhaul and they did their shows flying F-101 Voodoos!!!! (I think that
was the same year the "Red Devils" swapped their Pitts for B-52's).

Finally, I'd like to nominate myself for consideration for my
outstanding achievements in aviation, unfortunately they all have to be
fabricated events to qualify and mine are 101% absolutely,
unquestionably, true and actually really happened.

They include:

- Taking Chuck Yeager for a ride in a Mooney and upon landing he said to
me "Man! If I had your flying skills and talents, I'd have been a great
test pilot in my day!"

- Saying to Barnes Wallis at an air ministry meeting where he was
proposing to destroy the Ruhr dams and explaining the many problems
trying to figure out how to get the bomb in just the right place "We
have to end this meeting shortly, so perhaps we should just skip it and
move on to the next item on the agenda".

- A heroic dogfight over Vietnam where I became an ace in one flight
shooting down five Mig-17's in my PT-17 (or was it Mig-19's in my
PT-19?). Those numbers always confuse me.

- Doing a roll on takeoff the first time I piloted an Airbus 300 then
buzzing the field inverted. (got hell from the FAA for that because I
"shouldn't be doing aerobatics on my first flight in an unfamiliar
aircraft").

- Saving a fully loaded passenger 747 from disaster when both pilots
succumbed to serious illness and were incapacitated. I instructed the
stewardess on how to fly the aircraft while I was performing open-heart
surgery on the Captain with the aid of several passengers who watched
"ER" the previous night. The Captain quickly recovered and was able to
land the aircraft safely. (This incident is being made into a TV movie).

- Flying an airshow with the Thunderbirds one day when their leader ate
some bad chicken at a party at the airfield and couldn't fly. They asked
me to take his place and lead the team because I was the only one they
could find who saw all three "Iron Eagle" movies. Everyone loved my
trick of catching donuts thrown into the air on the pitot tube and
knocking the cigarette out of the announcer's lips with the vertical fin
while flying inverted 5' off the deck (Don't worry - he'll be okay - I
only winged him).


A. Constant

rleo...@wizrealm.com

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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I am sorry Mr. Constant, your nomination of Mr Snowdon is hereby denied.
You neglected to observe ( or mention ) the totally obvious and ironclad
rule that the only acceptable nomination possible is the "Shameless,
Self Nomination". This omission can be expected to weigh heavily against
your "Shameles, Self Nomination" in the first years' vote. So heavily in
fact - your nomination may be, fairly, assessed a mandatory delay equal
to the period of time elapsed between Chuck Yeager's first solo and his
induction into that other aviation hall of fame.

Trust me, sources which must remain un-named, agree,

Ray ( supersonic ultralite in progress ) Leonard


In article <35414F...@kanservu.ca>,


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Badwater Bill

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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And to think I thought I was an industrial strength bull shitter.
This guy out classes me by an order of magnitude.

Great Post! Whoever the hell you are! (is you R..., or could it be
Bill Berle? Nah ... it's Chuck right? Oh, I give up, there are so
many of you who are capable of this)

Badwater Bill

Carl A. Johansson

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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Alan Constant wrote:
>
>I shovelled a whole bunch of bullshit out of here

Bahahahahaha ghofff

I bet you have a shrine of captain Zoom in your bedroom don't you????

you coming to wounded knee, brother Constant?
--
Carl Johansson, Chief Yahoo/Gonzo Biologist
Midway, Utah
"what!! Me fail English???? That's unpossible"
Avid Mark IV N2114N

RobertR237

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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To the Readers of USAviator (If any) and other interested RAH readers:

I now understand how the Zoomster can make the statement that everyone who
sends him e-mail and mail are supporters of his magazine and reporting. It's
very simple, if you don't agree with him he simply orders you to not send him
any correspondence and that if you do he will call the police, notify you ISP
and generally try to fuck up your life. And he claims others threaten him!

I admit that I sent a private e-mail to the USAviator Web Site. Since at the
end of the daily reports there was a request for "Questions/Comments??" which
provided an automatic e-mail link. I assumed that this was for either positive
or negative comments. My comments were admittedly not too favorable.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>Sorry that the news is so short tonight....
>>I was up partying til 2 a.m and I'm beat!!!
>>More data and pix tomorrow!
>>>>>>>> The above from USAviator web site, below my
comments>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>Well, you are running a full day behind and still don't care enough to produce
a full report. If anyone >had any questions about where your priorities are,
you just gave them your answer. It's very >apparent that you care more about
drinking and partying until you are too far out of it to do your job.

>With so much happening at Sun-N-Fun, it's sad that the only news you seem to
come up with is a >re-hash of the same old HATE crap and a very few news
releases. Same old sorry crap over and >over.

>It's no wonder you are in bankruptcy court.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

I will stand by my comments. For the last several years now, every event
covered by USAviator has continously attacked Adventure Air, CGS, and now
Revolution Helicopter. Reporting a story once is news, twice is a news
followup, even three times can be considered a followup. BUT, time after time
after time for two to three years is not reporting it's harrasment. There is
no room in this industry or any other for publications which set out to destroy
any company or individuals in the name of reporting. This is not free speach
or freedom of the press, it's abuse of both the freedom of speach and freedom
of the press.

Now the Zoomsters reply really got to me. It seems that somehow JC can publish
a web page and magazine saying any damn thing he wants to about anyone else but
if you object or disagree you have not rights to state your reply.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JC's reply to my e-mail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Mr. Reed...

Let me make this perfectly clear. I have gotten nearly a thousand e-mails about
your daily news updates... you are the ONLY one who has been negative. There is
no
hate in them, only the facts.
I did NO drinking last night. NONE. NADA. ZIP. I did some test flying until
late
in the day and then spent some very much needed and quite pleasant times with
pilots both on and off the airport. No one, in my presence, imbibed. Further; I
learned a lot about a number of subjects that will be instrumental in our
coverage
of Sun 'n Fun... and yes, I had fun. Pardon me, I'm entitles to do so when I'm
not
dealing with harassment and messages from psychopaths who really need to get a
life and a clue.
A full day behind, eh? ... the fifth day is over and... voila, the fifth day
page
is UP... Can you count? Are you having mental difficulties? Do you know that
day
five comes after day four and before day six? Think about it slowly... don't
tax
yourself now... give yourself a little time, don't strain yourself thinking TOO
hard, and it may all become clear... maybe. Are the Delusions starting again,
Mr.Reed?

Finally; as I'm cc'ing this your ISP and my lawyer, this is the last time I
will
tell you that I do not wish to be burdened with any more of your hate speech,
harassment and vitriol... there is no coherent critique to be had and your
agenda
is clear. In concert with state and federal law, I am ordering you here and now
to
cease and desist in any and all communication with me via any medium but the US
Mail. We will forward all future communication to the authorities for
prosecution.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>>>>> Below is JC's final reply to me which also contains my response to him
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> I also include his signature line because I think it's very important to
this >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


This communication is in violation of the law, the police have been called, and
a
copy is being forwarded to Federal Law Enforcement at their direction, via fax
as
well as to legal counsel.

RobertR237 wrote:

> In a message dated 98-04-24 10:12:46 EDT, you write:
>
> >
> > Mr. Reed...
> >
> > Let me make this perfectly clear. I have gotten nearly a thousand e-mails
> > about
> > your daily news updates... you are the ONLY one who has been negative.
> There
> > is no
> > hate in them, only the facts.
>
> I find it very hard to believe that I am the ONLY negative comments you have
> received but I guess anything is possible. NOT LIKELY THOUGH.
>
> > I did NO drinking last night. NONE. NADA. ZIP. I did some test flying
until
> > late
> > in the day and then spent some very much needed and quite pleasant times
> > with
> > pilots both on and off the airport. No one, in my presence, imbibed.
> Further;
> > I
> > learned a lot about a number of subjects that will be instrumental in our
> > coverage
> > of Sun 'n Fun... and yes, I had fun. Pardon me, I'm entitles to do so when
> I'
> > m not
> > dealing with harassment and messages from psychopaths who really need to
> get
> > a
> > life and a clue.
>
> As for partying, it was your statement not mine. YOU indicated you were too
> beat to do any additional reporting on events. That comment and many many
> comments you have published in the past and current web pages could easily be
> interpreted as I did. As for psychopaths who really need to get a life and a
> clue....I've never been arrested for impersonating a doctor, lost my ticket
> because of personallity disorders, declared bankruptcy, etc. etc. How about
> you?
>
> > A full day behind, eh? ... the fifth day is over and... voila, the fifth
> day
> > page
> > is UP... Can you count? Are you having mental difficulties? Do you know
> that
> > day
> > five comes after day four and before day six? Think about it slowly...
> don't
> > tax
> > yourself now... give yourself a little time, don't strain yourself
thinking
> > TOO
> > hard, and it may all become clear... maybe. Are the Delusions starting
> again,
>
> Well, mark one up for you! You are right, I was counting Saturday the 18 th
> but the Sun-N-Fun actually started on the 19 th. HOWEVER, your own words
> printed on you own web page indicates, and I quote "(The News Starts April
> 18th!)". Now can you count .... let's see 18 = 1, 19 = 2, 20 = Party, 21 =
3,
> 22 = 4, 23 = 5...... Yep I guess you were right!
>
> > Mr.
> > Reed?
> > Finally; as I'm cc'ing this your ISP and my lawyer, this is the last time
I
> > will
> > tell you that I do not wish to be burdened with any more of your hate
> speech,
> >
> > harassment and vitriol... there is no coherent critique to be had and your
> > agenda
> > is clear. In concert with state and federal law, I am ordering you here
and
> > now to
> > cease and desist in any and all communication with me via any medium but
> the
> > US
> > Mail. We will forward all future communication to the authorities for
> > prosecution.
> >
>
> You can "CC" this reply to any body you damn well please. I quite frankly
> don't give a damn. Your web page included a final section for
> "Questions/Comments??" to which I responded. If you don't like someone
> responding then take the e-mail response off the web page. If however the
> only comments you expect are favorable ones, too bad. As an editor,
publisher
> of a magazine and web page, you should expect that not everyone is going to
> agree with your editorials and they have every right under the law to state
> their opinions to you. Or do you think that freedom of speech is limited to
> only you.
>
> YOU DON"T ORDER ME TO DO ANYTHING......GOT IT!


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIM Campbell signature line is below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jim Campbell, Publisher, US Aviator
Copyright 1998, All Rights Reserved
Author: SportPlane Resource Guide--Second Edition
http://www.av8r.net
http://www.kindredspirit.com
http://www.sportplane.com
"To sin by silence when they should protest,
makes cowards of men."--Abraham Lincoln

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My closing response below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

I originally had no intention of posting any of this to RAH but since Jim saw
fit to try and forbid me from e-mailing him as editor of USAviator, and
threaten me with both police, federal authorities and notification to my ISP,
it is clear I have only one response left. His final response stated that he
had notified all of the same including legal counsel, I have little choice but
make my comments public.

As his signature line above states "To sin by silence when they should protest,
makes cowards of men."--Abraham Lincoln.

I will not be silenced in my critical comments toward you and the USAviator
publication as long as you continue to publish for wide distribution ongoing
attacks on others. As several legal records have proven, you are a liar and
have been for most if not all of your adult life. Your credibility as a writer
and publisher is non-existant. If you do not wish to have me and others give
comments regarding any and everything you publish, you have a couple of
choices. First, which admittedly I would like to see, get out of the writing
and publishing business. Second, clean up your act and quit using the
USAviator magazine as a means of carrying on personal attacks on others.

To the readers of RAH who think that this has nothing to do with RAH, think
about what the cost of your favorite hobby is going to be if we allow one crazy
fool to use his magazine to destroy at will those companies who don't tow his
line and pay his bills for him.

Alan Staats

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On 25 Apr 1998 19:26:54 GMT, rober...@aol.com (RobertR237) wrote:

bravo, robert, bravo!

campbell, you are the definition of hypocrisy. that you label
yourself as a "journalist" is an affront to any of the "real"
journalist out there. WHY WILL YOU NOT GET HELP FOR YOURSELF? IT IS
SO OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE IN NEED OF DEEP PSYCHIATRIC CARE THAT EVEN A
LAYMAN SUCH AS MYSELF CAN SEE IT. YOU HAVE BECOME A JOKE. PEOPLE ARE
LAUGHING AT YOU! DON'T YOU, OR CAN'T YOU, SEE THAT?

...and i expect, that because i have exercised my constitutional
rights to free speech that you will call the police, my isp, and my
(now 83 year old) aunt, again. but take care, there. her husband has
died and she has gotten even more fiesty. but hey, you're a big man,
you should not have too much trouble bothering an old lady.

someone should call YOUR relatives, campbell, then we'll see how YOU
like it.

you f'ing wanker.

staats

Alan Constant

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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Richard Riley wrote:
> No, Badwater, his headers say he's from Canada, and DejaNews shows lots of
> articles, everywhere from misc.legal to alt.windows95. He may be clinically
> insane, but he's for real. :)
>

Yep! I'm for real from Canada (a little town called Tobermory, Ontario
right where Lake Huron meets Georgian bay. I got a personal website up
at http://www.kanservu.ca/~arconst/alan.htm
visit if you dare.

And yes, I mat be quite insane, but no, I am not a bullshitter.
Everything I said about my aviation exploits are the absolute truth. I
swear to Captain Zoom.

Alan Constant
> --

John Ousterhout

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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On 25 Apr 1998 19:26:54 GMT, rober...@aol.com (RobertR237) wrote:

> JIM Campbell signature line is below

> [snip]

>"To sin by silence when they should protest,
>makes cowards of men."--Abraham Lincoln

Jim Campbell has just demonstrated to Bob that, among other things,
he's a hypocrite.

Free speech is not terrorism

- John Ousterhout -


Badwater Bill

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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At a boy Alan! Hang in there at all costs. I believed everything you
said!! I really did. Hey, can you get me a ride in the Space
Shuttle?


Badwater (kissing up for a ride) Bill

Badwater Bill

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Apr 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/25/98
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<snip a bunch of good stuff from Bob>

I have to tell you that sending an email or any other kind of mail to
anyone is not illegal. Just because the Psycho-boy tells you not to
email him doesn't mean you can't. Give me a break. If you were
harrassing a private person that's one thing. But this is not
harrassment. This ass-hole is a public figure and you have every
right to send him a communication via any means you see fit. In fact
if it's private you can say ANYTHING you want, even if it isn't true!
I don't know where this "Don't send me email crap" all started but
it's a bunch of shit. I'll send email to anyone at any time unless we
both agree not to, then you have a contract. See, Cambell
unilaterally decides things like this and the rest of his blatant
lies. He's so fucked up he actually thinks because he said it or
thought it, it's the LAW!!

His mother would have been better off to abort him when she first felt
him kicking.

What an ass hole. What a prick. What a perfect jerk.

Hang in there Bob. Good for you.

Badwater Bill


>I originally had no intention of posting any of this to RAH but since Jim saw
>fit to try and forbid me from e-mailing him as editor of USAviator, and
>threaten me with both police, federal authorities and notification to my ISP,
>it is clear I have only one response left. His final response stated that he
>had notified all of the same including legal counsel, I have little choice but
>make my comments public.

>I will not be silenced in my critical comments toward you and the USAviator

Alan Constant

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Carl:

No, I don't have a shrine to Captain Zoom in my bedroom. I built it in
the backyard. It's basically a small church structure which seats about
one hundred and houses a twice life-sized solid gold statue of Captain
Zoom behind the altar - elevated on a 4' high pedestal so we all have to
look up to him - as we all should.

Every Sunday morning, about eighty of us gather in the chapel to praise
him and pass around a collection plate, taking donations for our
favourite charities including the "Zoom the Children" fund and the new
"Captain Zoom" wing of the local psychiatric hospital, which,
coincidentally is where most of the congregation resides.

You would be surprised to know that Jimmy Doolittle, Charles Lindburgh,
Howard Hughes, Orville Wright, Manfred Von Richtofen, Ernst Udet,
Hermann Goering and Amelia Earhart also reside there and occasionally
attend our ceremonies! (Along with Napoleon Bonaparte, Erwin Rommel,
George Patton, Julius Caesar and King Tut).

Following the services, we enjoy a chicken barbecue then spend the rest
of the afternoon "hangar flying", relating all of our wildest aviation
yarns. Sometimes we go to the airport (1/2 mile up the road) and tell
our tales to visiting pilots or the seagulls - whichever will listen.

Everyone is welcome to come to our services, well, except for a few, and
for some we serve subpoenas instead of chicken. Being an aviation
enthusiast yourself, I'm sure you understand why we don't want
terrorists around. God, I mean Zoom only knows what one of them might do
- they might be carrying a bomb or something.

Occasionally we go on outings to various airports and perhaps test fly
some new aircraft. We love airshows - we just have to show up and the
pilots are eager to give us the keys to their aircraft and let us take
them up for a whirl!

We just can't wait until the next big Paris Airshow or Farnborough - why
those manufacturers are begging us to take their latest fighters up to
show the world what their machines can do. They keep offering us jobs as
test or demonstration pilots but we keep turning them down because if we
accept, then we're stuck flying only the one type. This way we get to
fly everybody's!

The rest of the week is spent posting inane items to usenet.

Alan Constant

JStricker

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Alan,

Your BS technique is absolutely amazing. Just when I think I'm good at
something, some butt wipe comes along and shows me to be the rank amateur
that I am. I am in awe of you sir. I am amazed. I am both repulsed by
your lies and infatuated with the story at the same time.

Did you go to school to learn this or did it just come naturally?

Now, sir, I must tell you that to remain on this lofty pedestal upon which I
have so deservedly placed you, you must appear at Wounded Knee. We all have
the right to meet you and find out if the complete and utter BS which you
spew forth is spontaneous or takes much planning. If it is truly
spontaneous eruptions of BS, then you will no doubt be held in much regard
and an icon of you placed in the hallowed halls of JRJ's hangar.

However if you elect NOT to attend, we shall have to hunt you down like the
rabid animal you are, tearing you asunder and scattering your body parts to
the four winds from a very high altitude.

Govern your actions and responses accordingly sir. (God I love that phrase.
I've been looking for a place to steal it and post it for a couple of weeks
now.)

Your humble servant
John Stricker

--
Remove the "nosp..........." Oh hell, you folks know what to do and
why I had to put it in. If one of you real humans wants to contact me:

jstr...@odsys.net

"I didn't spend all these years getting to the top of the food chain
just to become a vegetarian"


Alan Constant wrote in message <35426E...@kanservu.ca>...

Badwater Bill

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Now Alan! You have to stop that. I just blew about a bucks worth of
Chardonnay all over my screen and Boom-Boom is coming up the stairs
thinking she'll be calling 911 on my behalf.

I'm thinking that the RAH fly-in might have possibilities at your
place next year.

BWB


>
>Carl:
>
>No, I don't have a shrine to Captain Zoom in my bedroom. I built it in
>the backyard. It's basically a small church structure which seats about
>one hundred and houses a twice life-sized solid gold statue of Captain
>Zoom behind the altar - elevated on a 4' high pedestal so we all have to
>look up to him - as we all should.

snip some great stuff.

dpi...@erolsxyz.com

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Alan Constant wrote:
>
> Carl A. Johansson wrote:
> >
> > Alan Constant wrote:
> > >
> > >I shovelled a whole bunch of bullshit out of here
> >
> > Bahahahahaha ghofff
> >
> > I bet you have a shrine of captain Zoom in your bedroom don't you????
> >
> > you coming to wounded knee, brother Constant?
> > --
> > Carl Johansson, Chief Yahoo

> Carl:
>
> No, I don't have a shrine to Captain Zoom in my bedroom. I built it in
> the backyard. It's basically a small church structure which seats about
> one hundred and houses a twice life-sized solid gold statue of Captain
> Zoom behind the altar - elevated on a 4' high pedestal so we all have to
> look up to him - as we all should.
>

> Every Sunday morning, about eighty of us gather in the chapel to praise
> him and pass around a collection plate, taking donations for our
> favourite charities including the "Zoom the Children" fund and the new
> "Captain Zoom" wing of the local psychiatric hospital, which,
> coincidentally is where most of the congregation resides.
>
> You would be surprised to know that Jimmy Doolittle, Charles Lindburgh,

> Howard Hughes, Orville Wright, etc............
> <snip>
>
> Alan Constant

I'm hurt! You didn't invite me to lead the services on the Grand Opening!
All churchly related B.S. falls under my perview, but seeing as your live
in "the Land of Metric", I guess I will have to grant you a dispensation
to continue on with your work. We do, however, expect to see your sorry A**
in three week's time in P'ville so you can be served with a writ like everyone
else. You wouldn't want to miss out on that would you, EH???

Pastor Dave


Rich Ahrens

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Badwater Bill wrote:
> I don't know where this "Don't send me email crap" all started but
> it's a bunch of shit.

Well, I don't know where it started, but it's a favorite tactic of
assholes on the net. Take your good buddy Bobo the Bass, for instance.
This is a classic tactic of his as well. Drop him a note telling him
what a dickweed he is and watch what happens. I'll bet you a P'ville
drumstick what the reply will be.

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RobertR237

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In article <354769d5...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, bill...@ix.netcom.com
(Badwater Bill) writes:

><snip a bunch of good stuff from Bob>
>
>I have to tell you that sending an email or any other kind of mail to
>anyone is not illegal. Just because the Psycho-boy tells you not to
>email him doesn't mean you can't. Give me a break. If you were
>harrassing a private person that's one thing. But this is not
>harrassment. This ass-hole is a public figure and you have every
>right to send him a communication via any means you see fit. In fact
>if it's private you can say ANYTHING you want, even if it isn't true!

>I don't know where this "Don't send me email crap" all started but

>it's a bunch of shit. I'll send email to anyone at any time unless we
>both agree not to, then you have a contract. See, Cambell
>unilaterally decides things like this and the rest of his blatant
>lies. He's so fucked up he actually thinks because he said it or
>thought it, it's the LAW!!
>
>His mother would have been better off to abort him when she first felt
>him kicking.
>
>What an ass hole. What a prick. What a perfect jerk.
>
>Hang in there Bob. Good for you.
>
>Badwater Bill
>
>

Thanks Bill for your kind support and I am looking forward to hearing about
your being served with the papers in the RAH-15 lawsuit. That should be a very
interesting tale indeed.

I do take exception to your statement about "What a perfect jerk.". Hell,
there isn't anything perfect about Jim Campbell including being a JERK! A
perfect JERK is one who knows he is a jerk and sits out to be one. Jim
Campbell is too sick to even know that he is a JERK. ;-)

As to sending him e-mail, I am fully aware that mail in any form to the EDITOR
of any publication, electronic or printed, is not a violation of any law. And
responding to return e-mail, snail mail, or any other form of communication is
not against any laws. Harrasment in the form of telephone calls to homes,
employers, relatives, clients, or other associations of an individual could and
would be considered harrasment. Anyone we know who does that? Not I, but I
can think of someone who does.

Now since Jim no longers bothers to read RAH, only post some of his crap here
once in a while, I have a little advice for his lawyer or whoever reads RAH and
passes on the posts to Jim. Get the poor bastard some medical help and either
quit giving him bad legal advice or sit him straight on where he stands
legally. Oh yes, and if you think you are going to make any money off of him
by defending him in his legal battles, think again. There isn't going to be
anything left to pay you with and based on the number of law suits he is
involved with now, you are going to run up one hell of a bill.

Alan Constant

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JStricker wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> Your BS technique is absolutely amazing. Just when I think I'm good at
> something, some butt wipe comes along and shows me to be the rank amateur
> that I am. I am in awe of you sir. I am amazed. I am both repulsed by
> your lies and infatuated with the story at the same time.
>

What Lies???? Are you some commie pinko terrorist trying to give me a
bad name and soil my reputation as an honest man? Why I'm as honourable
and honest as Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Bakker and I resent your
implications I am otherwise. Everything I said is the whole truth and
nothing but the truth and I'll swear to that on a stack of SRG's.


> Did you go to school to learn this or did it just come naturally?

How does one get through school without being able to BS well?
Actually, I've always had a secret desire to become a politician.

>
> Now, sir, I must tell you that to remain on this lofty pedestal upon which I
> have so deservedly placed you, you must appear at Wounded Knee. We all have
> the right to meet you and find out if the complete and utter BS which you
> spew forth is spontaneous or takes much planning. If it is truly
> spontaneous eruptions of BS, then you will no doubt be held in much regard
> and an icon of you placed in the hallowed halls of JRJ's hangar.
>


I am afraid that I will be unable to appear at Wounded Knee this year.
It happens to coincide with the dates I will be at Edwards Air Force
Base test flying the YF-22 fighter. The test program is now entering
stages deemed too dangerous for even their most experienced test pilots
so I have been called in. I understand we will be exploring territory
never explored before and I could be killed, but that doesn't worry me
because I've been killed in crashes many times before. If we are
successful, you can expect to see my name in the history books once
again as I claim yet another record to add to the list of hundreds I
already claim.

I cannot tell you any more at the moment because it is classified. I
shouldn't even be telling you this much as it may "tweak the nose" of
another famous test pilot whom I beat out for the job.


> However if you elect NOT to attend, we shall have to hunt you down like the
> rabid animal you are, tearing you asunder and scattering your body parts to
> the four winds from a very high altitude.

Happy hunting!
Alan Constant

Alan Constant

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Badwater Bill wrote:
>
> At a boy Alan! Hang in there at all costs. I believed everything you
> said!! I really did. Hey, can you get me a ride in the Space
> Shuttle?
>
> Badwater (kissing up for a ride) Bill

I'm afraid my connections with NASA aren't quite as good as the
Captain's, but I might be able to swing you a ride in that Merlin
powered Corsair my buddy said he flew in.

Al Constant

Alan Constant

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dpi...@erolsXYZ.com wrote:

> I'm hurt! You didn't invite me to lead the services on the Grand Opening!
> All churchly related B.S. falls under my perview, but seeing as your live
> in "the Land of Metric", I guess I will have to grant you a dispensation
> to continue on with your work. We do, however, expect to see your sorry A**
> in three week's time in P'ville so you can be served with a writ like everyone
> else. You wouldn't want to miss out on that would you, EH???
>
> Pastor Dave

Pastor Dave:

Sorry you didn't get invited to the opening services. We had quite a
dilemma. You see, in addition to many famous aviators at "the home" (as
the inmates, I mean residents call it), we had The Pope and King Henry
VIII (the head of the Church of England) both wanting to lead the
services after Jesus himself backed out (he didn't actually back out,
during a picnic outing by the river he decided to show us how he could
walk on water. He took one step, went right to the bottom and his body
has never been recovered).

We settled that problem by having an "all-denominational" service -
which of course meant we also had to invite a Rabbi, Muhammed, Buddha,
Gandhi and several others. We had a hell of a time finding a holy man to
represent the atheists.

In the turmoil we accidentally overlooked a number of people including
Count Ferdinand Von Zeppelin, General Noriega, Imelda Marcos and Queen
Elizabeth. Somebody also slipped the names of the RAH 15 into our
computer files - presumably terrorists - and retrieving those invites
from the post took a lot of our time too.

Bill Clinton declined because he had a date and Saddam Hussein said he
had a virus. Jean Chretien (our Prime Minister) made it, but was upset
because he was hoping to meet Fidel Castro there (Fidel was,
embarrassingly, stopped and held by our customs agents who thought he
was smuggling drugs in his beard and wasn't able to get here in time).

Well, of course they all brought their entourages and devout followers -
and of course all those coming out to see, touch, hear and be blessed by
His Zoomness, we had to take over the farm across the road and most of
the airfield up the street just to hold the people. Cars were literally
parked up the highway from here to Owen Sound (about 65 miles).

This town of 800 had never seen so many people and was totally
unprepared - you never think of things like the effect 250,000 people
have on the sewage lagoon.

I apologize on behalf of the organizers for failing to notify you of
this event, however, we did record it on videotape and I would be
pleased to send you a copy for only $842.00 U.S. plus $76.50 S&H.
(Available in 3/4" reel to reel and Beta formats only. Allow six to
eight years for delivery).

As for Wounded Knee, I'm afraid that I will be unable to attend. I have
to meet with Bill Gates at Microsoft to "test fly" their new "Captain
Zoom Flight Simulator" program.
I understand there are many bugs in it and they're having a lot of
trouble getting it off the ground.

Alan Constant

Watch for me at Oshkosh - I will be demonstrating the new BD-16 "Space
Plane". Now homebuilders will be able to explore outer space for the
first time. Just think! When your other EAA buddies brag about their
latest cross-country adventure in their hot new composite job that
cruises at 16,000 feet at 450kts (using a converted VW engine), you can
wow everybody when you tell them you just completed thirty orbits of the
earth at 160 miles, flew formation with the Space Shuttle and did a
barrel roll around the MIR space station! And, you did it all from a
farmer's field - no fancy launching pads, booster rockets required!

Each day during the airshow we will be flying the 16 demonstrating it's
handling and performance in atmospheric flight then zoom off into an
orbit 130 miles high, circle the globe twice and bring it in for a
landing. Each time, I will be taking a winner of the "Why I want to be
like Captain Zoom" essay contest.

We will be putting the kits and aircraft into full production next year
in our yet-to-be-built modern plant and taking deposits for airplanes at
our booth. Just $1.2 million down and a yet undetermined amount payable
in installments whenever we need more money guarantees you a complete
materials kit or $4 million down guarantees you a complete FAA/NASA
certificated vehicle ready to take you "out of this world".

If you can't wait, you can send your money to me right now and you will
get exactly what you deserve. Cash only - small denomination unmarked
bills, non-sequential serial numbers please.

GooberB

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>Now since Jim no longers bothers to read RAH, only post some of his crap here
>once in a while, I have a little advice for his lawyer or whoever reads RAH
>and
>passes on the posts to Jim. Get the poor bastard some medical help and
>either
>quit giving him bad legal advice or sit him straight on where he stands
>legally. Oh yes, and if you think you are going to make any money off of him
>by defending him in his legal battles, think again. There isn't going to be
>anything left to pay you with and based on the number of law suits he is
>involved with now, you are going to run up one hell of a bill.
>
>
>Bob Reed
>KIS Cruiser in progress...Oshkosh 2000 by Gosh!

Good question Bob,

Where is Clager? Is he the captain of the RAH-15 law suit? Did he send His
Airness off to file these suits, or is Clager going to soon become the
Zoomlet's next target. I can see it now, "It was the attorney. It was bad
legal advise. I'm gonna turn him into the bar."

Of course that is how Campbell will avoid paying the man. Hey Clager, have you
been paid? Call the lawyers in Polk and Lake county and find out how many have
been stiffed. I'm told His Airness has just about run out of local barristers
that will take him as a client because he doesn't pay their bills. Next he'll
be using lawyers in South Florida that don't know his past.

GooberB

dpi...@erolsxyz.com

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Alan,

I can see where living in a town that has fewer people in it than the r.a.h.
newsgroup could make one batty-in-the-belfry, but I think you've long gone
beyond that point. Neither BWB's Thorazine-and-ant-poison nor his
toad-licking ever produced bouts of dementia that even remotely approach
yours! So I have only one question......... would you PLEASE tell us what
medication you're taking so we can all go get some!

Pastor Dave


RobertR237

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Apr 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/28/98
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"""Day Seven--Oh Well; Oshkosh is But A Few Months Away!"""

That about sums it up for USAviators last report. Can't quite figure out what
happened but day seven just fizzled away and all we get is an "OH WELL" and a
few statistics. And it took 2 days to get that out. Saturday must have been a
real bummer. I guess everyone just got up and left on Friday or was it just
one well know self inflated egotistical reporter who left the show early on
Friday?

Oh Well, we are all just waiting with baited anticipation for Oshkosh and more
of the same old CRAP from USAviator. We can only hope that Oshkosh will be as
exciting for some as Sun-N-Fun and we will get another "Oh Well: Copperstate
is But A Few Months Away!" Hell, if Jim keeps this up he will have yet another
record (this time a true one) to boast about. "I've been kicked out of more
airshows that anyone else in the whole world. Hell, I've even been kicked out
of more shows than Chuck Yeagar. Just ask him. ". Now there is a record
worth Jim blowing his own horn about.

Now for a change of tone. I hope everyone checked out the Sun-N-Fun coverage
by Southern Aviator. They did one heck of a good job and didn't have to cut
anyone down or offend anyone to do it. GREAT COVERAGE and Thanks. AVWEB also
did a very nice article on Sun-N-Fun in this weeks edition. Check it Out.

highflyer

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Badwater Bill wrote:
>
> Now Alan! You have to stop that. I just blew about a bucks worth of
> Chardonnay all over my screen and Boom-Boom is coming up the stairs
> thinking she'll be calling 911 on my behalf.
>
> I'm thinking that the RAH fly-in might have possibilities at your
> place next year.
>
> BWB
>
>
Sounds great. However, we will have to do it the second weekend
in July. That is the weekend summer usually arrives on in western
Ontario. Even then the lake is a bit cool for swimming. During
dog days in august the lake temperature sometimes climbs over 40
degrees Fahrenheit.

It is too darn bad we can't arrange to get Mr. Constant down to
Pink knee ville this month! :-)

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