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>Well what other interresting signage is out there unique to a state?
While driving through Vermont I saw a few signs that said "Reduced salt
area".
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I wonder what CalTrans had in mind when that one went up.
And first runner up .... which may already be gone: On I-87 in upstate
New York, there was one that said: "EXIT XXX - TO BE BUILT"
(I don't remember which exit XXX) was.)
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free-of-charge at your own risk for up to 2 weeks, $0.25/day late fee.
One said, "ADVERSE CAMBER". haa haa.. what the hell is that :-)
And another that was a picture of a motorcycle overtop of a car,
with a red slash through it (supposed to be no vehicles), but when
drunk its: No motorcycles jumping over cars.
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Some of the best I've seen were in other countries. New Zealand
comes to mind... 'Side Track Ahead' (ever been side-tracked before?
They use this to mean 'Detour Ahead'. And then there was the rather
cryptic to Americans 'Metaled Road' that it turns out means 'Gravel
Road' and has nothing to do with Metal at all..
But my favorite was the sign at the (Australian?) rail road
grade/crossing that lead me to picture a crafty train hiding in the
bushes waiting for the un-suspecting motorist: "Beware of Train"
Never know when an evil train will be looking for the unwary to
pounce upon...
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This was intended to imply weaving as threads in a tapestry, it
often caused folks to think they were being advised to have a drink
or two before taking on the other freeway ;-)
This sign, alas, was taken down a few years ago due to lack of
understanding by the public and lack of humor by CalTrans...
Then there are the speed signs on Quito Road in Saratoga. Each
curve is precisely marked. One is 19 mph. Another is 16 mph, and 22...
Guess they were done by a precision freak... most curves out
here get a nice number rounded to the lower 5mph bound...
I saw something like this in Australia. It said, roughly:
"Obey the next traffic sign" It was a sign pointing out that
there was a sign coming up that you ought to read and follow...
Not a recursive sign, but still a bit of a Godel type of reference...
Yeah, those "slippery when wet" signs look like "tire-eating snakes
ahead".
Here in Indiana we have some old speed limit signs that say
Begin
50 mile
speed
I guess you need a good cruise control.
-C
In the interest of keeping cars with NY plates from running out of gas in
Drummondville Center, where the nearest gas station is 22 miles north by
northwest, the state apparently felt they should give the hapless outsider
a helpful hint by posting a sign.
I haven't seen this sign myself, but I heard from a believeable source
that there is (or was) a sign along some road in Vermont which announced:
This is not Route 7
- BK
"No movements on red light"
>And first runner up .... which may already be gone: On I-87 in upstate
>New York, there was one that said: "EXIT XXX - TO BE BUILT"
>(I don't remember which exit XXX) was.)
Exit 7, I think. The sign has been there since 1968 [at least],
so I've never minded the Mass. DPW putzing around with their bridges
for a mere three years...
>Scott
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CAUTION - Children being children.
How `bout:
HIGHWAY ENDS
500 FEET
Ooo, I hate when that happens.
Then there's:
MEN IN TREES
I think the best traffic lights are in downtown Boston. See if you
can figure this mess out:
Red Light on top (on)
Yellow Light below it (on steady)
Yellow Light below it (blinking)
Green Arrow below it (blinking, pointing to 2 o'clock)
(It means: tonnage rules, good luck)
This is across from a 6 lane wide, one-way road on a 10 ft. high post,
at a 5 street intersection. Boston drivers aren't as terrible as most
folks believe, if we were, we'd all be dead by now.
Or, on I-94 Eastbound in SW Michigan:
CLIMAX
1 Mi.
Better hurry up, honey! (Geez, talk about weaving!! ;-) )
*Best I've seen so far on this list is Smith's "Beware of Train" :-)
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>How `bout:
> HIGHWAY ENDS
> 500 FEET
>
I saw a sign like that once...
A friend and I were doing some exploring one night near Edisto Island, SC.
There's lots of dirt roads around, so we got used to seeing signs that
said "Road Ends 500 Feet" at which point the pavement would end and it
would continue on as a dirt road.
Well, we were driving along, saw the familiar sign and kept going.
As we continued it occurred to me that I couldn't see where the road
went, figuring it was a dip or a downgrade, I kept going. Suddenly I
realized where the road went! I stomped on the brakes and stopped about
20 feet from the end of the road. Whereupon it dropped down about 15
feet into a saltwater river! No signs other than the initial one,
no barricade or anything!
Mark
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Is this really all that unusual?...
In article <1994Jan4.1...@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> mcr...@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Mark Crafts) writes:
>
>A friend and I were doing some exploring one night near Edisto Island, SC.
>There's lots of dirt roads around, so we got used to seeing signs that
>said "Road Ends 500 Feet" at which point the pavement would end and it
>would continue on as a dirt road.
>
>Well, we were driving along, saw the familiar sign and kept going.
>...
>Whereupon it dropped down about 15 feet into a saltwater river!
This proves the danger of imprecise signs! I hope the SC DOT takes
note.
Here in NC, when a paved road becomes a dirt or gravel road, the
sign says "PAVEMENT ENDS". This is quite a different thing than
"ROAD ENDS" or "HIGHWAY ENDS", so it's important to use distinct
signs for each of the two situations.
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Beautiful road though, esp. in Fall.
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Seems they would have been able to give it a name by now :-)
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>In article 11...@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM, spe...@photon.swdc.stratus.com (Scott Spetter) writes:
>>My personal favorite: I-5 in San Diego: "CRUISE SHIPS USE AIRPORT EXIT"
>>
>>I wonder what CalTrans had in mind when that one went up.
My favorite is a sign I spotted somewhere between Houston and Austin (TX)
along some country road. It was suspended across the road, with six or so
short lengths of pipe suspended verfically along each side of the sign.
It's about 100 yards before a bridge.
IF YOU HIT THIS SIGN
YOU WILL HIT THE BRIDGE
What was so funny was the sign was an absolute wreck; bent, dented, and
scarred. Obviously hit many times. I don't know, maybe you had to be
there, but I ended up laughing so hard I about ended up in some farmer's
field.
Steve Engle
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Randy
That's sad. Doesn't this child have enough problems just being deaf? Now
he is slow too. Maybe this is one sign you should disobey?? ;)
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END of a posted speed limit usually means the new
limit is 55. For instance, you will be driving on
a 55 road, and you may come up to a town or an area
with more cross traffic, and a sign will say BEGIN 40.
When you are back to "open road", there will be a sign
that says END 40.
It may be that END means "revert to previous posted limit",
but I believe that always means 55. Personally, I'm with
you, if they're going to put up an "END 40" sign, why not
just put up a conventional "55" sign?
-Guy
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Vermont does this a lot too. However, since the state speed limit (for
non-interstates) is 50mph, "END 40" means 50mph. So, in general, "END
X" means revert to the default speed.
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: areas for that matter) under the speed limit sign they will put another
: sign that says BEGIN or END. I understand the BEGIN part means that this
: is a new speed limit, but the END part I don't understand. OK, so this
: is the end of the area with speed limit XX, but what is the new limit?
: Is it faster or slower?
I think that the default speed limit on rural Pennsylvania roads is 55 MPH,
so when the other speed limit "ends" (usually when you are exiting a village),
it is back up to 55 again.
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You may get in trouble with the assumption that the "END" sign always
means return to a 55 mph limit. In many areas of the country, the
speed limits are blanketly defined unless otherwise posted. In
Colorado, for example, the motor vehicle code specifies that the
speed limit on mountain roads is 40 mph unless otherwise posted.
The implication here is that if ther is no posted limit on a mountain
road, the limit is 40 mph. An END xx sign would therefore indicate a
return to a 40 mph limit.
How many million years ago was this? I've done a far amount of driving
in all parts of NZ, I've been a driver for 16 years, and I've *never*
seen a sign like that.
> They use this to mean 'Detour Ahead'. And then there was the rather
> cryptic to Americans 'Metaled Road' that it turns out means 'Gravel
> Road' and has nothing to do with Metal at all..
Cryptic to me, too! I have never been able to figure out why some
people call that stuff "metal". Perhaps it's a British-ism?
> But my favorite was the sign at the (Australian?) rail road
> grade/crossing that lead me to picture a crafty train hiding in the
> bushes waiting for the un-suspecting motorist: "Beware of Train"
> Never know when an evil train will be looking for the unwary to
> pounce upon...
We should adopt that one here. Have you heard how many level crossing
crashes we've been having recently?
Actually, most of our signs are now the cryptic pictorial international
ones. I don't think this is a good thing, because for visitors from
overseas, different signage used to be yet another reminder of being in
a different country where they drive on the other side of the road.
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Our equivalent sign says SEAL ENDS, or it used, last time I saw one.
I always wondered how the seals got on without their ends.
They use "PAVEMENT ENDS" in Texas too. I come from the UK, where
pavement means sidewalk. The first time I saw "pavement ends",
I though "why do I care?", I soon found out!
Craig
i've got a better one. one night, a buddy of mine and i were driving
around, and we were going down this little side street. anyways, we
were abotu to turn onto a major road, and under the stop sign, there was
another sign that said "speed limit 30" we both kinda went HUH? and as
we got closer to it, the sign CHANGED to read no left turn. well, we
backued up, and looked again, and again. finally realizing that they
did an AWFUL job of reusing the previous speed limit sign.
also, here's another one. on the campus of the a college in abalama
<sic> there was a sign outside the visitor's info center that was a
large blue sign, with a single question mark on it. i want to go back
and claim that sign for my room. :)
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Our ice-warning signs in Indiana are visible year-round; I remember as a
youngster being very confused. "Dad, why should you have to watch for
ice on the bridge when it's 87 degrees?" The folding sign idea sounds neato.
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Well, we were driving along, saw the familiar sign and kept going.
As we continued it occurred to me that I couldn't see where the road
went, figuring it was a dip or a downgrade, I kept going. Suddenly I
realized where the road went! I stomped on the brakes and stopped about
20 feet from the end of the road. Whereupon it dropped down about 15
feet into a saltwater river! No signs other than the initial one,
no barricade or anything!
This reminds me of a particularly scary thing that happened to me once
on a return trip from New Jersey back to Indiana. I got very, very tired of
I-70, so just after entering Ohio I dumped off onto US 40. Boy, did that
ever slow me down, because that road winds through every dot on the map. I
was ready to bail out of that situation, so I consulted Rand McNally, which
showed an exit off 40 onto 70 where the two roads intersected oh, say, 40
miles east of Columbus. Looked good to me. Heck, it even showed that the
road widened to 4 lanes a few miles ahead of the exit.
I come to an intersection. There's a sign that says, "<-- To I70", and
on the other side of the intersection I see the road widen to 4 lanes. Happy
to be free of the two-lane, I goosed it and was cruising at a good 70 mph.
I thought it strange that I had the road to myself; no traffic in either
direction. About then I noticed that all the road signs were either covered
with tarps, or were blank! I was starting to become very concerned about
all this when I rounded a curve and found myself staring at a hillside...
into which the road abruptly ended! I slammed on the brakes. Rand McNally
was wrong. 40 and 70 intersected all right, but only conceptually. 70
was built *on top of* 40. They carted in a gigantic mound of dirt, plopped
it down on that section of 40, packed it down good, paved the top of it,
and called it the Interstate.
The whole thing scared the beejeebees out of me.
Sign says: *25 MEN WORKING*....come on, I've NEVER seen 25 men working
there..standing around, watching yeah, but working NOT.
Sign says: *SLOW MEN WORKING*....much more accurate.
So what do Britons call the class of substances used to pave roads,
if "pavement" can't be used for that purpose? Words like "asphalt",
"macadam" and "concrete" all refer to specific materials; is there
a British term for the class as a whole?
>In article <CJ2H...@skopen.dseg.ti.com> ox...@skopen.dseg.ti.com (Gail Oxton) writes:
>
>Our ice-warning signs in Indiana are visible year-round; I remember as a
>youngster being very confused. "Dad, why should you have to watch for
>ice on the bridge when it's 87 degrees?" The folding sign idea sounds neato.
Given my experiences with Indiana's DOT, folding signs would be a real
hazzard: they'd never get opened up soon enough to help (the DOT would
probably just watch the accident reports to decide when to open them :-).
Besides, the signs would have to be open 9 months out of 12 since you
can have cold snaps pretty close to the summer months, at least north
of Indianapolis.
My favorite signs are the ones on the bridges in Michigan's upper peninsula.
All of these little, ten-foot bridges have a sign on them giving pictures
of three types of trucks (0, 1, or 2 trailers) with weight limits. These
limits were somewhat amusing: you'd see numbers like 105 tons. (First,
I was surprised, though willing to believe, that some trucks weigh more.
Second, are they claiming that the bridge will fail if someone drives a
110 ton truck over it?)
Rob
I thought those signs meant to "burn rubber"!!
Or the ones that have the car slightly tipped with the tire marks meant:
"female* driver ahead" *or put in any other applicable victim.
(I know in this day of political correctness, I should not say things
like this but after all I'm only joking.) (My wife is a much better driver
than I)
I don't recall. Perhaps "tarmac"? Tarmac = Tarmacadam = macadam which
is the name of the inventor of this stuff.
Craig
>They use "PAVEMENT ENDS" in Texas too. I come from the UK, where
>pavement means sidewalk.
Both of those mean "footpath" here!
Words for the actual road surface are seal, tarseal, and less commonly,
bitumen or tarmac.
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Because they are trying to immitate the European method of posting speed
limits but since we don't use the grey circle/slash signs for the national
limit we have to resort to such vague things a "END 40" and the like. ;)
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>I don't recall. Perhaps "tarmac"? Tarmac = Tarmacadam = macadam which
>is the name of the inventor of this stuff.
Yes, this is correct. My wife and I have this discussion when she first
came to the states. She agrees, when she is not being difficult, that the
term sidewalk is probably best for that surface. Then, you can call the
road surface whatever you want. :)
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She then stopped and asked the road gang, (in her best Irish brogue)
"I looked to be sure, but i didn't see no three fellows."
It was along the Olinda tourist track, Dandenong ranges Melbourne Victoria
Australia. The signs now now read
TREE LOPPERS AHEAD.
Along the same vein, some years ago they altered all the road signs that read
MEN AT WORK
to
WORKMEN AHEAD
due (possibly) to the number of jokes made.
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This grey circle/slash that you refer to is undoubtedly the most beautiful
sign ever invented, when viewed on an Autobahn it means *no speed limit*
Craig
>In article <CJ2H...@skopen.dseg.ti.com> ox...@skopen.dseg.ti.com (Gail Oxton) writes:
> I like Texas' folding signs. In winter, they're open to the standard
> sign of "Warning Watch for Ice on Bridge", and in summer, they're closed
> but with a bumper sticker that says "Don't Mess With Texas", the
> anti-litter campaign. Even if they didn't have the bumper sticker, I
> like that fact that these signs close--who wants to see a warning about
> ice in August when it's 102 outside!
>Our ice-warning signs in Indiana are visible year-round; I remember as a
>youngster being very confused. "Dad, why should you have to watch for
>ice on the bridge when it's 87 degrees?" The folding sign idea sounds neato.
In Pennsylvania, there is the sign
BRIDGE FREEZES BEFORE ROAD SURFACE
It took me forever to figure out what this meant. I thought maybe as you
got to the end of the bridge (just before you got back to the road surface)
things could get icy.
PROTECT
xxx
OUR CHILDREN
The kicker is that the sign was sponsored by the local MOOSE lodge and
the "xxx" was a full color drawing of a Moose which had a nose the size of
the state of Maine. Looked like Bullwinkle on steroids, with an evil glint
in its eyes.
This sign was not uncommon in central Virginia circa 1978.
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There was a big redwood-stained sign erected by concerned parents in a
residential area that became a rush-hour shortcut. It read,
43 - 44 - 47 - 50 Children Playing Ahead (each previous number was x'd out)
Someone came along, x'd out the 50, and wrote, "Oops-49"
Another, was a residential street sign (standard green metal sign on
galvanized post) named, "Red Bud Lane". Every couple of weeks, the Public
Works would replace it, and every couple of weeks, a stoner would steal it,
presumably displaying the trophy in his bedroom. After awhile, PW just gave
up.
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