U.S. criticizes Toyota for 'misleading' public in recall
john
David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau
Washington -- The government sharply criticized Toyota Motor Corp.
Wednesday for its "inaccurate and misleading" suggestion that sudden
acceleration in some vehicles bound for recall may be due only to
improperly fitting floor mats.
The National Highway Transportation Safety Administration's criticism
of Toyota's statement is the latest hit to the automaker's reputation
from what will be the largest safety recall in its history: 3.8
million vehicles.
NHTSA said Toyota inaccurately suggested in a press release this week
that the agency had concluded "that no defect exists in vehicles in
which the driver's floor mat is compatible with the vehicle and
properly secured," the agency said in a statement.
"It was never our intention to mislead or provide inaccurate
information. Toyota agrees with NHTSA's position that the removal of
the floor mats is an interim measure and that further vehicle-based
action is required," said Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons.
"We are in the process of developing vehicle-based remedies to help
avoid the potential for an unsecured or incompatible floor mat to trap
the accelerator pedal."
On Monday, Toyota refuted suggestions that other defects might be
causing the accidental acceleration, and pointed to the government's
decision not to investigate a consumer complaint.
Bob Carter, general manager of the Toyota-brand division of Toyota
Motor Sales USA, told reporters there is "absolutely no evidence"
pointing to a defect other than poor-fitting floor mats.
Sean Kane, president of Massachusetts-based Safety Research &
Strategies, said Toyota was "waving the agency's denial of the latest
petition for a defect investigation like a victory banner."
While NHTSA hasn't found a vehicle-based defect that is causing
unwanted acceleration, "it doesn't mean there isn't one," he said. "It
just means that the agency hasn't found it."
NHTSA says removing the recalled floor mats is the most immediate way
to address the safety risk.
"But it is simply an interim measure. This remedy does not correct the
underlying defect in the vehicles involving the potential for
entrapment of the accelerator by floor mats, which is related to
accelerator and floor pan design," the agency said.
Kevin John SmallBone
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If only you could afford a TOYOTA. Too bad.
cuh...@webtv.net
NISSAN used to be DATSUN.
cuhulin
Hachiroku ハチロク
Toyopet was just a model. It was still Toyota Motor Co.
I don't call myself Hachiroku fer nuttin'!
It's amazing you even remember the Toyopet. IIRC, you said you were in
Japan for a while?
They were so horrible, Toyota started selling them in the US in 1958, and
stopped selling them as the 1960 model year began. They came back couple
years later with the Land Cruiser, and then followed that with the Corolla
a couple years after that.
Mike Hunter
market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or over
priced, should be the question. ;)
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Sharx35
"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
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> Why would ANYBODY buy a Toyota when there are so many other brands on the
> market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or over
> priced, should be the question. ;)
FORD----Fix Or Repair Daily
jr92
> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
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> > Why would ANYBODY buy a Toyota when there are so many other brands on the
> > market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or over
> > priced, should be the question. ;)
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> FORD----Fix Or Repair Daily
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> >> "john" <johngd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> If only you could afford a TOYOTA. Too bad.- Hide quoted text -
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On a quiet night, you can hear the frame of a Toyota Tundra rusting.
On a quiet night, you can hear an auto technication,working on the
most recalled, most unliable automobile ever produceded, Toyota.
On a noisy night, you can hear a Toyota, which had a throttle stick
wide open, crash into a tree.
Hopefully, the driver of such vechicles will wise up, and purchase US
products from now on.
And even get better fuel milage in the process!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jr92
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> If only you could afford a TOYOTA. Too bad.
I cant afford to own a toyota.
have too far a distance to go from point A to B.
Need to drive,as opposed to walk, if my car breaks down.
Ashton Crusher
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>"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
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>> Why would ANYBODY buy a Toyota when there are so many other brands on the
>> market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or over
>> priced, should be the question. ;)
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>FORD----Fix Or Repair Daily
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it's been a long time since that was true.
dsi1
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> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
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>> Why would ANYBODY buy a Toyota when there are so many other brands on
>> the market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered
>> and/or over priced, should be the question. ;)
>
> FORD----Fix Or Repair Daily
>
Here's Ford's vision for the future. Finally, a car I can afford!
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ford_unveils_new_car_for_cash
Sharx35
"Ashton Crusher" <de...@moore.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:15:49 GMT, "Sharx35" <sha...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
>>news:4af5d7cb$0$14951$ce5e...@news-radius.ptd.net...
>>> Why would ANYBODY buy a Toyota when there are so many other brands on
>>> the
>>> market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or
>>> over
>>> priced, should be the question. ;)
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>>FORD----Fix Or Repair Daily
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> it's been a long time since that was true.
what? 2 days?
C. E. White
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> Why would ANYBODY buy a Toyota when there are so many other brands on the
> market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or over
> priced, should be the question. ;)
Not always true...at leat for my Mother. We looked at vehicles from Ford,
Toyota, and Honda and decided the Highlander best met here requirments. The
closest Ford was an Edge and the MSRP was thousands more with less standard
equipment. With rebates it came close to the same and the Edge did have a V6
instead of th Hghlander's four, but this was irrelevant to m y Mother. I
think everyone in my family agreed that the Highlander was a far better
vehicle for the money for my Mother.
Ed
Wayne
"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
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> market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or over
> priced, should be the question. ;)
>
had a GM car before the Lexus, and I enjoyed visiting a mechanic every three
weeks. ;)
Jeff Strickland
"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
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> market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or over
> priced, should be the question. ;)
>
>
Sorry dude, but my brand new GM car has convinced me that I should never
ever buy a new car again, and a GM car should be at or near the bottom of my
list.
I bought a brand new '85 Chevy that was by far the absolute worst car I've
ever bought. By far. The Pinto that they gave me for a company car on my
very first job after high school was a better car. The '82 Honda Accord that
I owned at teh same time as the '85 Chevy was a better car, by a wide
margin. I traded the '85 fully loaded Chevy for a base model '86 Accord, and
I got the better car when the deal was done.
Sorry man, but if others had the experience I had with my Chevy, having the
government take the company over only makes me ask two questions, Why did
they do it? and Why did it take so long?
C. E. White
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So you last owned a GM car in 1986? Don't you think things might have
changed in 23 years? The last Toyota I owned was also over 20 years ago, and
it was a horrid POS. However when my Mother needed a new car I didn't assume
all Toyotas were as bad as that POS (although judging by some of my
neighbor's Toyotas, they still can turn out some real POS's).
My experience has been that every manufacturer can screw up and produce some
real turkeys. But they also can get it right too. I tend to pick cars more
on my preceived needs than manfacturer. I've had really good luck with
Fords, so in cases where Ford makes a vehicle that meets my precieved needs,
I am more likelly to buy a Ford. However, when Ford doesn't make a vehicle
like I need, then I'd buy from someone else (like the Toyota Highlander we
just got for my Mother).
Ed
cuh...@webtv.net
Vietnam.We had an eight hour layover in Tokyo.I remember back around
1958 when Toyopet cars were for sale in America.I have seen them in
America before.
cuhulin
Kevin John SmallBone
"Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in message
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> Why would ANYBODY buy a Toyota when there are so many other brands on the
> market, that are as good or better, that are not underpowered and/or over
> priced, should be the question. ;)
>
Why? Because they make quality products. A Toyota will go over 200,000
miles where a Chevy will break down before 80,000 miles. Don't understand?
Check Consumer Reports. Did you also notice that GM and Chrysler are going
bankrupt? Maybe they build shit.
Kevin John SmallBone
"dsi1" <ds...@spamnet.com> wrote in message
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WOW - Maybe john can afford another car!
cuh...@webtv.net
in 1989.Since then, I have driven that van about 77,000 miles.
My big old 1983 Dodge van had about 72,000 miles on it when I bought it
in September 2008.Way I figure it, it is just now getting broken in
good.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
Japanese Nostalgic Car Toyopet
How many different brand names of cars nowadays are based on Renault
platforms?
Quite a few of them, metinks so.
cuhulin