Advice needed on car painting

Denis Morissette

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Aug 14, 2004, 2:34:39 PM8/14/04

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I have successfully removed all rust off my car. The next step is
painting. I went to a car piece store that took a number off one of my
1991 Tercel's car and prepared the paint- green- that would match the
original color. Unfortunately, the result is not too good. The car has
now some spots of shades of a more blueish than the original and
sometimes even have aspects of silver! I am now considering to have it
painted over with black. Black has the advantage to have only one
shade -black- whereas the are so many shades of green. If I need to
add some paint in the future I won't have to worry about getting the
right color. My question today is can I just paint over without
removing the original paint? I would like to avoid the hassle of
removing the original pain and put a primer. Will the new paint stay,
that's the question. Thanks for your help.

Steve W.

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Aug 14, 2004, 9:37:39 PM8/14/04

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"Denis Morissette" <mikesm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Black has only one shade... RIGHT, try about 90 different blends and
formulas, and that is just in PPG colors...
In order to do a good paint job you need to match the color ON THE CAR ,
the original paint code is a guide once you get past a few years for
spot painting, Still OK if your shooting the entire car though.

How did you "remove" the rust? I ask so I can give you a better idea
about what to do next.

Steve W.

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Denis Morissette

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Aug 15, 2004, 10:48:43 AM8/15/04

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"Steve W." <m...@homer.org> wrote in message news:<411ebe5d$1...@corp.newsgroups.com>...

Thanks for your reply, Steve. To remove the rust I used sand paper,
and had to use a knife when the area was quite large. If I go ahead
with black, do you think I really need toremove the original paint
first?

master of none

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Aug 15, 2004, 5:49:34 PM8/15/04

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I have painted a few older cars, mostly for cosmetic reasons. I've had
good success. It is not required to remove all the old paint, that
would mean sandblasting or chemicals or a heck of alot of sanding
wheels, ridiculous.
What I would do is get the gloss off the old paint with wet/dry fine
emery paper. Rough it up till its dull, use an up/down, side to side
then diagonal
combination. Rinse the car off and let it dry, after masking anything
not to be painted, spray on a good coat of primer, let it dry then
either roll on or
spray on your black. Pick a nice warm windless stretch of days. Looks
good from
15 feet away! Just have good spray technique (spray cans or
compressor).

Steve W.

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Aug 15, 2004, 8:16:10 PM8/15/04

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Hate to say it but unless you REALLY ground out all the rust and then
filled and sanded the areas the rust will just be back in a month.

If you did that and then primed it, the primer you used probably isn't
the same as the factory color primer, which will alter the topcoat color
some.
If you didn't primer it first then the paint will fail even sooner.
As for shooting the entire car NO you won't have to remove the ORIGINAL
paint, just degloss it with some 400 grit wet or dry on a DA. The areas
you repaired will have to be sanded back out though since the paint
there isn't baked and could lift or craze when you have the new paint
put on.

If you do decide to have someone repaint it, ask them if you doing the
sanding will save you money (it should BUT)