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Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 10:35:12 AM11/15/12
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News
Nov 15, 2012, 11:20:10 AM11/15/12
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On 11/15/2012 10:35 AM, Noj wrote:
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> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
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A pow-wow with el Supremo will convince them of the error of their ways.
No? OK, how about a dungeons and uniforms session with Max?
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> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
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A pow-wow with el Supremo will convince them of the error of their ways.
No? OK, how about a dungeons and uniforms session with Max?
brafield
Nov 15, 2012, 11:59:43 AM11/15/12
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mechanical, re King David: "For the sound of his Triumph was heard in
the city."
Sla#s
Nov 15, 2012, 12:11:21 PM11/15/12
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Noj wrote:
> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
For any folk unaware of the toxic group of hate mongers calling themselves
the Westboro Baptist Church, be aware that many of them are lawyers and much
of their income is from very successfully suing people who attack them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
So if you are visiting the track don't feed the trolls!
Slatts
> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
For any folk unaware of the toxic group of hate mongers calling themselves
the Westboro Baptist Church, be aware that many of them are lawyers and much
of their income is from very successfully suing people who attack them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
So if you are visiting the track don't feed the trolls!
Slatts
Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 12:12:51 PM11/15/12
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***************************
I always thought that the "Lord" (in all his non-existent,
ficticious glory) actually rode astride a Royal Enfield.
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I always thought that the "Lord" (in all his non-existent,
ficticious glory) actually rode astride a Royal Enfield.
News
Nov 15, 2012, 12:32:54 PM11/15/12
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a425couple
Nov 15, 2012, 1:36:36 PM11/15/12
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Yes, quite correct & valid.
For quite a bit of time, I was the senior commander dealing
with many "protest" type gatherings.
Interestingly, I was able to find that the "Westboro" * group
was 'thorny' ** but not too bad. ***
They were quite internally self disciplined. They were intelligent
and informed enough.
So, the main problems were more, the "counter-protest"
citizens & groups that gathered.
* Let me be clear to the less informed,
although this group uses the word "Baptist" in their name,
no broader implications from that word, should be drawn.
** As to "thorny", yes, they were very well informed and
understanding about how far they could push their issues & points.
And VERY good at successfully pushing everyone's
"hot buttons".
*** As to "bad", they had rather despicable messages,
and posters, and inflamatory speech,
but, in the bottom line, I can not recall any case where
their followers, and my officers, fought or injured each other.
So, when I did my homework properly, and told them
"that is private property, the representative of the owner
does not want you there, and if any of your members enter it,
I will cause them to be arrested and booked. I have
considerable confidence they will be prosecuted and
I think will probably be convicted.
They understood.
And, this is totally opposite of my experiences with,
say animal rights groups.
They routinely had individuals get carried away & go violent.
For quite a bit of time, I was the senior commander dealing
with many "protest" type gatherings.
Interestingly, I was able to find that the "Westboro" * group
was 'thorny' ** but not too bad. ***
They were quite internally self disciplined. They were intelligent
and informed enough.
So, the main problems were more, the "counter-protest"
citizens & groups that gathered.
* Let me be clear to the less informed,
although this group uses the word "Baptist" in their name,
no broader implications from that word, should be drawn.
** As to "thorny", yes, they were very well informed and
understanding about how far they could push their issues & points.
And VERY good at successfully pushing everyone's
"hot buttons".
*** As to "bad", they had rather despicable messages,
and posters, and inflamatory speech,
but, in the bottom line, I can not recall any case where
their followers, and my officers, fought or injured each other.
So, when I did my homework properly, and told them
"that is private property, the representative of the owner
does not want you there, and if any of your members enter it,
I will cause them to be arrested and booked. I have
considerable confidence they will be prosecuted and
I think will probably be convicted.
They understood.
And, this is totally opposite of my experiences with,
say animal rights groups.
They routinely had individuals get carried away & go violent.
Sir Tim
Nov 15, 2012, 1:51:40 PM11/15/12
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On 15/11/2012 15:35, Noj wrote:
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> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
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"Shame on these people for worshipping these athletes instead of
following the plain commandments of their God:'there shall be no DDRS,
coanda exhausts or flexible wings'"
--
Henry Birkin, Bt.
>
>
> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>
"Shame on these people for worshipping these athletes instead of
following the plain commandments of their God:'there shall be no DDRS,
coanda exhausts or flexible wings'"
--
Henry Birkin, Bt.
Dan the Man
Nov 15, 2012, 2:02:08 PM11/15/12
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On Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:35:14 AM UTC-5, Noj wrote:
> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or something. It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or something. It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 2:42:11 PM11/15/12
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Dan the Man wrote ...
Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 2:42:42 PM11/15/12
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Sir Tim wrote ...
You'd think they'd have something better to do on a Sunday.
a425couple
Nov 15, 2012, 3:03:54 PM11/15/12
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"Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
"chased" any votes from the Westboro church?
And respectfully back to Dan,
their main goal seems to be to push "free speech",
even when it is not popular.
> Dan the Man wrote ...
>> Noj wrote:
>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at
>> funerals of American soldiers because they were convinced we
>> were all going to Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals
>> to have rights. Or something. It's hard to get a grasp on
>> these wingnuts.
>
> Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
Please Noj, do give an example of what politician
>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at
>> funerals of American soldiers because they were convinced we
>> were all going to Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals
>> to have rights. Or something. It's hard to get a grasp on
>> these wingnuts.
>
> Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
"chased" any votes from the Westboro church?
And respectfully back to Dan,
their main goal seems to be to push "free speech",
even when it is not popular.
down_hill
Nov 15, 2012, 3:13:56 PM11/15/12
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the freedom of speech to do it.
John Briggs
Nov 15, 2012, 3:22:22 PM11/15/12
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John Briggs
Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 3:33:04 PM11/15/12
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Vestra quaestio continet responsum.
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Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 3:34:47 PM11/15/12
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Any suggestion that they're reasonable and well behaved
could be nothing less than a bald faced attempt at deception.
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could be nothing less than a bald faced attempt at deception.
Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 3:38:04 PM11/15/12
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Right. You see, their holding signs saying that gawd hates
fags, are glad (s)he's dead, it's the price America pays for
immoral behavior ... at the funeral of a recently departed
loved one isn't for purposes of inciting violence or fostering
hatred, they're simply engaging in the academic pursuit and
philosophical exercise of investigating and pushing the
boundaries of free speech.
Either you're that idiotic or desperately hope and earnestly
trust that your desired audience will be.
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fags, are glad (s)he's dead, it's the price America pays for
immoral behavior ... at the funeral of a recently departed
loved one isn't for purposes of inciting violence or fostering
hatred, they're simply engaging in the academic pursuit and
philosophical exercise of investigating and pushing the
boundaries of free speech.
Either you're that idiotic or desperately hope and earnestly
trust that your desired audience will be.
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 3:59:53 PM11/15/12
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a425couple wrote ...
>
> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
> > Dan the Man wrote ...
> >> Noj wrote:
> >> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
> >> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at
> >> funerals of American soldiers because they were convinced we
> >> were all going to Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals
> >> to have rights. Or something. It's hard to get a grasp on
> >> these wingnuts.
> >
> > Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
>
> Please Noj, do give an example of what politician
> "chased" any votes from the Westboro church?
Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions are
extreme.
If you want an example of how we in UK view such people, take Tony
Blair. If we'd known the fucking idiot had taken to talking to Dog and
was desperate to convert to the popes gang - he would never have been
elected, yet along become prime minister.
>
> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
> > Dan the Man wrote ...
> >> Noj wrote:
> >> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
> >> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at
> >> funerals of American soldiers because they were convinced we
> >> were all going to Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals
> >> to have rights. Or something. It's hard to get a grasp on
> >> these wingnuts.
> >
> > Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
>
> Please Noj, do give an example of what politician
> "chased" any votes from the Westboro church?
extreme.
If you want an example of how we in UK view such people, take Tony
Blair. If we'd known the fucking idiot had taken to talking to Dog and
was desperate to convert to the popes gang - he would never have been
elected, yet along become prime minister.
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 4:00:34 PM11/15/12
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Gene wrote ...
The bishop did what to you ?
Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 4:45:02 PM11/15/12
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have likely regressed beyond efficacious assistance.
My most sincere condolences.
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 5:08:10 PM11/15/12
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Gene wrote ...
> >>
> >> Vestra quaestio continet responsum.
> >
> > The bishop did what to you ?
>
> You're horribly, perhaps even terminally confused and
> have likely regressed beyond efficacious assistance.
>
> My most sincere condolences.
So, how is the Bishops ring ?
> >>
> >> Vestra quaestio continet responsum.
> >
> > The bishop did what to you ?
>
> You're horribly, perhaps even terminally confused and
> have likely regressed beyond efficacious assistance.
>
> My most sincere condolences.
John Briggs
Nov 15, 2012, 5:10:15 PM11/15/12
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that they can't be touched under the First Amendment.
--
John Briggs
geoff
Nov 15, 2012, 6:24:21 PM11/15/12
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> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
>> Dan the Man wrote ...
>>> Noj wrote:
>>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of
>>> American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to Hades
>>> for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or something.
>>> It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
>>
>> Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
>
> Please Noj, do give an example of what politician "chased" any votes from
> the Westboro church?
Churches in general. Cos it would be political suicide to admit you don't
>> Dan the Man wrote ...
>>> Noj wrote:
>>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of
>>> American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to Hades
>>> for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or something.
>>> It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
>>
>> Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
>
> Please Noj, do give an example of what politician "chased" any votes from
> the Westboro church?
believe the fairy-stories that many Americans appear vehemently to. And to
think they accuse the Muslims opf being extreme fundamentalists !
geoff
geoff
Nov 15, 2012, 6:26:13 PM11/15/12
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> a425couple wrote ...
night worrying about whether there really is a Dog.
geoff
> a425couple wrote ...
>
>
> Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions are
> extreme.
> If you want an example of how we in UK view such people, take Tony
> Blair. If we'd known the fucking idiot had taken to talking to Dog and
> was desperate to convert to the popes gang - he would never have been
> elected, yet along become prime minister.
Reminds me of the jokeabout the agnostic dyslexic insomniac - lies awake all
>
> Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions are
> extreme.
> If you want an example of how we in UK view such people, take Tony
> Blair. If we'd known the fucking idiot had taken to talking to Dog and
> was desperate to convert to the popes gang - he would never have been
> elected, yet along become prime minister.
night worrying about whether there really is a Dog.
geoff
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 6:50:06 PM11/15/12
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geoff wrote ...
>
>
> Churches in general. Cos it would be political suicide to admit you don't
> believe the fairy-stories that many Americans appear vehemently to. And to
> think they accuse the Muslims opf being extreme fundamentalists !
>
>
Don't forget, huge numbers of septics were thrown out of their countries
for being religious nuts. Those that weren't made up their own - how
many of the loony fuckers are there on the telly every day?
>
>
> Churches in general. Cos it would be political suicide to admit you don't
> believe the fairy-stories that many Americans appear vehemently to. And to
> think they accuse the Muslims opf being extreme fundamentalists !
>
>
for being religious nuts. Those that weren't made up their own - how
many of the loony fuckers are there on the telly every day?
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 6:50:57 PM11/15/12
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geoff wrote ...
>
>
> Churches in general. Cos it would be political suicide to admit you don't
> believe the fairy-stories that many Americans appear vehemently to. And to
> think they accuse the Muslims opf being extreme fundamentalists !
>
Watch the telly - there are thousands of the nutters, each with their
own tv channel.
>
>
> Churches in general. Cos it would be political suicide to admit you don't
> believe the fairy-stories that many Americans appear vehemently to. And to
> think they accuse the Muslims opf being extreme fundamentalists !
>
own tv channel.
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 6:52:17 PM11/15/12
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geoff wrote ...
Dogma innit
a425couple
Nov 15, 2012, 6:52:13 PM11/15/12
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"Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
> a425couple wrote ...
>> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
>> > Dan the Man wrote ...
>> >> Noj wrote:
>> >> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>> >> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at
>> >> funerals of American soldiers because they were convinced we
>> >> were all going to Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals
>> >> to have rights. Or something. It's hard to get a grasp on
>> >> these wingnuts.
>> >
>> > Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
>>
>> Please Noj, do give an example of what politician
>> "chased" any votes from the Westboro church?
>
> Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions are
> extreme.
You are obviously VERY much on the outside.
> a425couple wrote ...
>> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
>> > Dan the Man wrote ...
>> >> Noj wrote:
>> >> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>> >> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at
>> >> funerals of American soldiers because they were convinced we
>> >> were all going to Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals
>> >> to have rights. Or something. It's hard to get a grasp on
>> >> these wingnuts.
>> >
>> > Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
>>
>> Please Noj, do give an example of what politician
>> "chased" any votes from the Westboro church?
>
> Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions are
> extreme.
I think you overestimate what you see on TV.
The vast majority of our churches, and our ministers (etc.)
do not make the "news reports" and have no interest
in doing so.
Just as the 'newsmakers' in F1, are not the majority
of auto sport enthusiasts or participants, the churchs that
are 'newsmakers', are not the majority.
Not everyone who owns a race car should be considered
to be the same as Vijay Mallya.
The majority of US church views are pretty low key & not extreme.
Or do you consider the Church of England / Anglican
to be extreme?
And, again directly to your earlier post,
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 7:07:12 PM11/15/12
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religion and the politicians do chase votes from religious/ethnic
groups.
Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 7:11:01 PM11/15/12
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He goddam mad dog, eh?
Do geese see god?
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Do geese see god?
Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 7:13:31 PM11/15/12
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Quite obviously your ignorance renders you not cognizant
of the relationship between the professions of law, medicine,
other sciences ... and latin. Perhaps it's due to your tertiary
stage syphilitic mind. What else might possibly explain such
inane questions directed at an atheist.
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of the relationship between the professions of law, medicine,
other sciences ... and latin. Perhaps it's due to your tertiary
stage syphilitic mind. What else might possibly explain such
inane questions directed at an atheist.
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 7:15:05 PM11/15/12
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Gene wrote ...
I know all that, but how's the Bishops ring?
Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 7:16:03 PM11/15/12
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http://www.magickriver.net/shit1.jpg
Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 7:33:27 PM11/15/12
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Gene wrote ...
>
> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2b0f908bb...@news.aioe.org...
> > geoff wrote ...
> >
> >> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.2b0f6813e...@news.aioe.org...
> >> > a425couple wrote ...
> >> >
> >> > Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions
> >> > are
> >> > extreme.
> >> > If you want an example of how we in UK view such people, take Tony
> >> > Blair. If we'd known the fucking idiot had taken to talking to Dog and
> >> > was desperate to convert to the popes gang - he would never have been
> >> > elected, yet along become prime minister.
> >>
> >> Reminds me of the jokeabout the agnostic dyslexic insomniac - lies awake
> >> all
> >> night worrying about whether there really is a Dog.
> >>
> > Dogma innit
>
> My karma ran over your dogma.
> http://www.magickriver.net/shit1.jpg
Stop dodging issue.
How is the Bishop's Ring ?
>
> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2b0f908bb...@news.aioe.org...
> > geoff wrote ...
> >
> >> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.2b0f6813e...@news.aioe.org...
> >> > a425couple wrote ...
> >> >
> >> > Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions
> >> > are
> >> > extreme.
> >> > If you want an example of how we in UK view such people, take Tony
> >> > Blair. If we'd known the fucking idiot had taken to talking to Dog and
> >> > was desperate to convert to the popes gang - he would never have been
> >> > elected, yet along become prime minister.
> >>
> >> Reminds me of the jokeabout the agnostic dyslexic insomniac - lies awake
> >> all
> >> night worrying about whether there really is a Dog.
> >>
> > Dogma innit
>
> My karma ran over your dogma.
> http://www.magickriver.net/shit1.jpg
How is the Bishop's Ring ?
Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 7:35:24 PM11/15/12
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Noj
Nov 15, 2012, 7:37:57 PM11/15/12
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Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 8:15:45 PM11/15/12
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News
Nov 15, 2012, 9:04:22 PM11/15/12
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Gene
Nov 15, 2012, 9:19:40 PM11/15/12
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personal experience to know and savor for themselves.
>>>>>> Reminds me of the jokeabout the agnostic dyslexic insomniac - lies
>>>>>> awake
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> night worrying about whether there really is a Dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dogma innit
>>>>
>>>> My karma ran over your dogma.
>>>> http://www.magickriver.net/shit1.jpg
>>>
>>> Stop dodging issue.
>>> How is the Bishop's Ring ?
>>
>> How does my ass taste, Noj?
>>
> Polished, like the bishop's staff.
As stated by those satiated connoisseurs with enough
>>>>>> awake
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> night worrying about whether there really is a Dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dogma innit
>>>>
>>>> My karma ran over your dogma.
>>>> http://www.magickriver.net/shit1.jpg
>>>
>>> Stop dodging issue.
>>> How is the Bishop's Ring ?
>>
>> How does my ass taste, Noj?
>>
> Polished, like the bishop's staff.
personal experience to know and savor for themselves.
Bobster
Nov 15, 2012, 11:54:42 PM11/15/12
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> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
ROFL
> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
ROFL
Bigbird
Nov 16, 2012, 1:24:41 AM11/16/12
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a425couple wrote:
> And respectfully back to Dan, their main
> goal seems to be to push "free speech", even when it is not popular.
Now that is almost as twisted a view as their own.
> And respectfully back to Dan, their main
> goal seems to be to push "free speech", even when it is not popular.
If someone runs over a jay walker is he just pushing his right of way?
Bigbird
Nov 16, 2012, 1:32:23 AM11/16/12
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News wrote:
> On 11/15/2012 8:15 PM, Gene wrote:
> >
> > How does my ass taste, Noj?
> >
Gene de Benda is Texassgate's kissin' cousin AICM5UKP
> On 11/15/2012 8:15 PM, Gene wrote:
> >
> > How does my ass taste, Noj?
> >
>
>
> Polished, like the bishop's staff.
Bigbird
Nov 16, 2012, 1:35:59 AM11/16/12
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of STD's is very telling.
Sir Tim
Nov 16, 2012, 3:15:57 AM11/16/12
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--
Henry Birkin, Bt.
Noj
Nov 16, 2012, 4:40:29 AM11/16/12
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Sir Tim wrote ...
Are you suggesting we're having fun with the idiot ?
Noj
Nov 16, 2012, 4:45:30 AM11/16/12
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Gene wrote ...
> >> >> > Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > extreme.
> >> >> > If you want an example of how we in UK view such people, take Tony
> >> >> > Blair. If we'd known the fucking idiot had taken to talking to Dog
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > was desperate to convert to the popes gang - he would never have
> >> >> > been
> >> >> > elected, yet along become prime minister.
> >> >>
> >> >> Reminds me of the jokeabout the agnostic dyslexic insomniac - lies
> >> >> awake
> >> >> all
> >> >> night worrying about whether there really is a Dog.
> >> >>
> >> > Dogma innit
> >>
> >> My karma ran over your dogma.
> >> http://www.magickriver.net/shit1.jpg
> >
> > Stop dodging issue.
> > How is the Bishop's Ring ?
>
> How does my ass taste, Noj?
Admission that you're a shirt lifter noted.
> >> >> > Standing on the outside - practically all of your churches/religions
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > extreme.
> >> >> > If you want an example of how we in UK view such people, take Tony
> >> >> > Blair. If we'd known the fucking idiot had taken to talking to Dog
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > was desperate to convert to the popes gang - he would never have
> >> >> > been
> >> >> > elected, yet along become prime minister.
> >> >>
> >> >> Reminds me of the jokeabout the agnostic dyslexic insomniac - lies
> >> >> awake
> >> >> all
> >> >> night worrying about whether there really is a Dog.
> >> >>
> >> > Dogma innit
> >>
> >> My karma ran over your dogma.
> >> http://www.magickriver.net/shit1.jpg
> >
> > Stop dodging issue.
> > How is the Bishop's Ring ?
>
> How does my ass taste, Noj?
Bigbird
Nov 16, 2012, 6:00:05 AM11/16/12
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Noj wrote:
>
>
> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
I recall Louis Theroux's documentary featuring these guys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Hated_Family_in_America
I haven't (that I recall) seen the follow up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Most_Hated_Family_in_Crisis
>
>
> http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
I recall Louis Theroux's documentary featuring these guys.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Hated_Family_in_America
I haven't (that I recall) seen the follow up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Most_Hated_Family_in_Crisis
Noj
Nov 16, 2012, 6:16:17 AM11/16/12
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Bigbird wrote ...
Many extreme religous groups tend to combust from within. The members
are never 'good' enough for the leader. Mass suicides are very common,
especially if the leader has been stealing money or shagging kids,
wives, husbands of members.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00hff9w
There was a BBC documentary series about Muslem extremists a few years
ago. A couple of the worse nutters had split and were at war with each
other over how well they followed the koran. Just when they'd all but
died out - the fucking septics got involved with them, supporting them
against their governments and eventually supplying enough arms and money
for them to attack the US.
There's this too
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2008/05/080530
_age_of_terror_one.shtml
are never 'good' enough for the leader. Mass suicides are very common,
especially if the leader has been stealing money or shagging kids,
wives, husbands of members.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00hff9w
There was a BBC documentary series about Muslem extremists a few years
ago. A couple of the worse nutters had split and were at war with each
other over how well they followed the koran. Just when they'd all but
died out - the fucking septics got involved with them, supporting them
against their governments and eventually supplying enough arms and money
for them to attack the US.
There's this too
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2008/05/080530
_age_of_terror_one.shtml
Gene
Nov 16, 2012, 8:26:00 AM11/16/12
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"Sir Tim" <ben...@brooklands.co.uk> wrote in message
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The cleverness and coherency of their witty rejoinders are
indistinguishable from the blathering of an Alzheimer's patient.
news:1147311892374746366.48799...@news.plus.net...
indistinguishable from the blathering of an Alzheimer's patient.
Gene
Nov 16, 2012, 8:26:51 AM11/16/12
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a425couple
Nov 16, 2012, 11:31:30 AM11/16/12
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"Gene" <gene....@home.com> wrote in message...
> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>>>> Noj wrote:
>>>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
> fags, are glad (s)he's dead, it's the price America pays for
> immoral behavior ... at the funeral of a recently departed
> loved one isn't for purposes of inciting violence or fostering
> hatred, they're simply engaging in the academic pursuit and
> philosophical exercise of investigating and pushing the
> boundaries of free speech.
>
> Either you're that idiotic or desperately hope and earnestly
> trust that your desired audience will be.
"Idiotic" ? Maybe in some things, sure (GRIN!), BUT not on this.
My sworn duty was to protect free speech.
I was being paid, to among other things, financially protect
my jurisdiction from ruinious lawsuits.
(Please, if you missed it earlier, do read "Sla#s" very valid post).
Also note, "WBC, through the closely related Phelps Chartered law firm,
has collected fees under the Civil Rights Attorney's Fees Award Act of
1976 when their protests have been unlawfully disrupted."
You deny it is protected "free speech", but since the SCOTUS
ruled 8 to 1 that it is, YOU ARE WRONG!
It is ugly, nasty, and rather despicable speech, but if a jurisdiction
fails to adequately protect it, Westboro can become enriched,
the the community becomes poorer.
They did several demonstrations in my area I had to work on.
One time it was 5 straight days. Tense work to keep the
'counter-protestors' from getting into fights when these
Westboro jerks are pushing every hot button they can.
Sure & sadly, some of our citizens could not see the forest
for the trees, and were angry at us for allowing, neigh even "protecting"
them. The community leaders understood, and spoke out supporting us.
It was quite tough, but satisfying, as they packed up to go to the
airport, and we stood down, confident that any lawsuit was unlikely.
Bottom line, if Westboro is there, it is easiest on the emotions
to just avoid them. You can not win an argument with them
to change their minds.
But,,,, some people like watching others take a stick and poke
at a hornet's nest,,,, so have fun!
(Hey, it takes special talent to get Bill O'Reilly, and Michael Moore,
and the KKK to all denounce you!)
> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
>>> Dan the Man wrote ...
>>>> Noj wrote:
>>>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>>>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of
>>>> American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to
>>>> Hades
>>>> for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or
>>>> something.
>>>> It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
>>>
>>> Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
>>
>> Please Noj, do give an example of what politician "chased" any votes from
>> the Westboro church?
>>>> American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to
>>>> Hades
>>>> for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or
>>>> something.
>>>> It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
>>>
>>> Explain why your politicians chase their votes?
>>
>> Please Noj, do give an example of what politician "chased" any votes from
>> the Westboro church?
>> And respectfully back to Dan, their main goal seems to be to push "free
>> speech", even when it is not popular.
>
> Right. You see, their holding signs saying that gawd hates
>> speech", even when it is not popular.
>
> fags, are glad (s)he's dead, it's the price America pays for
> immoral behavior ... at the funeral of a recently departed
> loved one isn't for purposes of inciting violence or fostering
> hatred, they're simply engaging in the academic pursuit and
> philosophical exercise of investigating and pushing the
> boundaries of free speech.
>
> Either you're that idiotic or desperately hope and earnestly
> trust that your desired audience will be.
"Idiotic" ? Maybe in some things, sure (GRIN!), BUT not on this.
My sworn duty was to protect free speech.
I was being paid, to among other things, financially protect
my jurisdiction from ruinious lawsuits.
(Please, if you missed it earlier, do read "Sla#s" very valid post).
Also note, "WBC, through the closely related Phelps Chartered law firm,
has collected fees under the Civil Rights Attorney's Fees Award Act of
1976 when their protests have been unlawfully disrupted."
You deny it is protected "free speech", but since the SCOTUS
ruled 8 to 1 that it is, YOU ARE WRONG!
It is ugly, nasty, and rather despicable speech, but if a jurisdiction
fails to adequately protect it, Westboro can become enriched,
the the community becomes poorer.
They did several demonstrations in my area I had to work on.
One time it was 5 straight days. Tense work to keep the
'counter-protestors' from getting into fights when these
Westboro jerks are pushing every hot button they can.
Sure & sadly, some of our citizens could not see the forest
for the trees, and were angry at us for allowing, neigh even "protecting"
them. The community leaders understood, and spoke out supporting us.
It was quite tough, but satisfying, as they packed up to go to the
airport, and we stood down, confident that any lawsuit was unlikely.
Bottom line, if Westboro is there, it is easiest on the emotions
to just avoid them. You can not win an argument with them
to change their minds.
But,,,, some people like watching others take a stick and poke
at a hornet's nest,,,, so have fun!
(Hey, it takes special talent to get Bill O'Reilly, and Michael Moore,
and the KKK to all denounce you!)
Gene
Nov 16, 2012, 12:13:02 PM11/16/12
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"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k85pp...@news3.newsguy.com...
I had NOT claimed that it wasn't free speech, I had made
a mockery of the concept (as does anyone supporting such
a notion) that it was a high minded exercise in an examination
of the perimeters of constitutionally protected speech.
> It is ugly, nasty, and rather despicable speech, but if a jurisdiction
> fails to adequately protect it, Westboro can become enriched,
> the the community becomes poorer.
>
> They did several demonstrations in my area I had to work on.
> One time it was 5 straight days. Tense work to keep the
> 'counter-protestors' from getting into fights when these
> Westboro jerks are pushing every hot button they can.
> Sure & sadly, some of our citizens could not see the forest
> for the trees, and were angry at us for allowing, neigh even "protecting"
> them. The community leaders understood, and spoke out supporting us.
> It was quite tough, but satisfying, as they packed up to go to the
> airport, and we stood down, confident that any lawsuit was unlikely.
>
> Bottom line, if Westboro is there, it is easiest on the emotions
> to just avoid them.
A ridiculously absurd suggestion, such protests have been
ruled illegal within the close confines of a private funeral.
http://blogs.findlaw.com/eighth_circuit/2012/10/manchester-defeats-westboro-baptist-church-in-eighth-circuit-appeal.html
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a mockery of the concept (as does anyone supporting such
a notion) that it was a high minded exercise in an examination
of the perimeters of constitutionally protected speech.
> It is ugly, nasty, and rather despicable speech, but if a jurisdiction
> fails to adequately protect it, Westboro can become enriched,
> the the community becomes poorer.
>
> They did several demonstrations in my area I had to work on.
> One time it was 5 straight days. Tense work to keep the
> 'counter-protestors' from getting into fights when these
> Westboro jerks are pushing every hot button they can.
> Sure & sadly, some of our citizens could not see the forest
> for the trees, and were angry at us for allowing, neigh even "protecting"
> them. The community leaders understood, and spoke out supporting us.
> It was quite tough, but satisfying, as they packed up to go to the
> airport, and we stood down, confident that any lawsuit was unlikely.
>
> Bottom line, if Westboro is there, it is easiest on the emotions
> to just avoid them.
ruled illegal within the close confines of a private funeral.
http://blogs.findlaw.com/eighth_circuit/2012/10/manchester-defeats-westboro-baptist-church-in-eighth-circuit-appeal.html
Noj
Nov 16, 2012, 12:15:47 PM11/16/12
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Gene wrote ...
> >> >>>>> Vestra quaestio continet responsum.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The bishop did what to you ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You're horribly, perhaps even terminally confused and
> >> >>> have likely regressed beyond efficacious assistance.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My most sincere condolences.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, how is the Bishops ring ?
> >> >
> >> > Quite obviously your ignorance renders you not cognizant
> >> > of the relationship between the professions of law, medicine,
> >> > other sciences ... and latin. Perhaps it's due to your tertiary
> >> > stage syphilitic mind. What else might possibly explain such
> >> > inane questions directed at an atheist.
> >>
> >> Perhaps it was a J-O-K-E ?
> >
> > Are you suggesting we're having fun with the idiot ?
>
> And here I thought I was the only one having all the fun.
One of Jasper Carrot's bus passenger friends.
> >> >>>>> Vestra quaestio continet responsum.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The bishop did what to you ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You're horribly, perhaps even terminally confused and
> >> >>> have likely regressed beyond efficacious assistance.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My most sincere condolences.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, how is the Bishops ring ?
> >> >
> >> > Quite obviously your ignorance renders you not cognizant
> >> > of the relationship between the professions of law, medicine,
> >> > other sciences ... and latin. Perhaps it's due to your tertiary
> >> > stage syphilitic mind. What else might possibly explain such
> >> > inane questions directed at an atheist.
> >>
> >> Perhaps it was a J-O-K-E ?
> >
> > Are you suggesting we're having fun with the idiot ?
>
> And here I thought I was the only one having all the fun.
yourspamhere@nowhere.com Oliver Crawford
Nov 16, 2012, 3:21:11 PM11/16/12
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This "church" admitted last year that they have a total membership of about
40 which is tiny for any eccentric group in the USA. WTF are sites like
pitpass giving them free publicity and making them out to be something more
than they are?
40 which is tiny for any eccentric group in the USA. WTF are sites like
pitpass giving them free publicity and making them out to be something more
than they are?
George
Nov 17, 2012, 1:52:38 AM11/17/12
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"Gene" <gene....@home.com> wrote:
>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:k85pp...@news3.newsguy.com...
>> "Gene" <gene....@home.com> wrote in message...
>>> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>>>> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
>>>>> Dan the Man wrote ...
>>>>>> Noj wrote:
>>>>>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>>>>>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of
>>>>>> American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to
>>>>>> Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or
>>>>>> something. It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
[...]
>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:k85pp...@news3.newsguy.com...
>> "Gene" <gene....@home.com> wrote in message...
>>> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>>>> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
>>>>> Dan the Man wrote ...
>>>>>> Noj wrote:
>>>>>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>>>>>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of
>>>>>> American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to
>>>>>> Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or
>>>>>> something. It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
>> It is ugly, nasty, and rather despicable speech, but if a jurisdiction
>> fails to adequately protect it, Westboro can become enriched,
>> the the community becomes poorer.
[...]
>> fails to adequately protect it, Westboro can become enriched,
>> the the community becomes poorer.
>> Bottom line, if Westboro is there, it is easiest on the emotions
>> to just avoid them.
>
>A ridiculously absurd suggestion, such protests have been
>ruled illegal within the close confines of a private funeral.
>http://blogs.findlaw.com/eighth_circuit/2012/10/manchester-defeats-westboro-baptist-church-in-eighth-circuit-appeal.html
The 8th Circuit decision was appealed to the Supreme Court and
>> to just avoid them.
>
>A ridiculously absurd suggestion, such protests have been
>ruled illegal within the close confines of a private funeral.
>http://blogs.findlaw.com/eighth_circuit/2012/10/manchester-defeats-westboro-baptist-church-in-eighth-circuit-appeal.html
was overturned in an 8-1 decision.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/0302/Supreme-Court-hurtful-speech-of-Westboro-Baptist-Church-is-protected
WBC tried something similar here - threatening to protest at the
funeral of a local Iraq veteran in 2006. They never showed,
claiming that they had somewhere else to be that day. I suspect
they were put off by the very negative local response and the
presence of the Patriot Guard riders.
http://cnjonline.com/cms/news/story-549382.html
>> (Hey, it takes special talent to get Bill O'Reilly, and Michael Moore,
>> and the KKK to all denounce you!)
geoff
Nov 17, 2012, 6:24:54 AM11/17/12
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> Or do you consider the Church of England / Anglican to be extreme?
The conservative wing thereof - yep, for sure.
geoff
The conservative wing thereof - yep, for sure.
geoff
Gene
Nov 17, 2012, 8:56:47 AM11/17/12
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AFTER that of the below. Even if you hadn't read the article,
reading the URL alone might have provided the needed clue ;^).
news:c1cea89h638h0bhrp...@4ax.com...
> "Gene" <gene....@home.com> wrote:
>>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:k85pp...@news3.newsguy.com...
>>> "Gene" <gene....@home.com> wrote in message...
>>>> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>>>>> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
>>>>>> Dan the Man wrote ...
>>>>>>> Noj wrote:
>>>>>>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>>>>>>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of
>>>>>>> American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to
>>>>>>> Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or
>>>>>>> something. It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
> [...]
>>> It is ugly, nasty, and rather despicable speech, but if a jurisdiction
>>> fails to adequately protect it, Westboro can become enriched,
>>> the the community becomes poorer.
> [...]
>>> Bottom line, if Westboro is there, it is easiest on the emotions
>>> to just avoid them.
>>
>>A ridiculously absurd suggestion, such protests have been
>>ruled illegal within the close confines of a private funeral.
>>http://blogs.findlaw.com/eighth_circuit/2012/10/manchester-defeats-westboro-baptist-church-in-eighth-circuit-appeal.html
Check your dates there Einstein, the above ruling occurred
>>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:k85pp...@news3.newsguy.com...
>>> "Gene" <gene....@home.com> wrote in message...
>>>> "a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
>>>>> "Noj" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message...
>>>>>> Dan the Man wrote ...
>>>>>>> Noj wrote:
>>>>>>> > http://www.pitpass.com/47893-Church-group-targets-Austin-GP
>>>>>>> The Westboro people are the same ones who protested at funerals of
>>>>>>> American soldiers because they were convinced we were all going to
>>>>>>> Hades for our complicity in allowing homosexuals to have rights. Or
>>>>>>> something. It's hard to get a grasp on these wingnuts.
> [...]
>>> It is ugly, nasty, and rather despicable speech, but if a jurisdiction
>>> fails to adequately protect it, Westboro can become enriched,
>>> the the community becomes poorer.
> [...]
>>> Bottom line, if Westboro is there, it is easiest on the emotions
>>> to just avoid them.
>>
>>A ridiculously absurd suggestion, such protests have been
>>ruled illegal within the close confines of a private funeral.
>>http://blogs.findlaw.com/eighth_circuit/2012/10/manchester-defeats-westboro-baptist-church-in-eighth-circuit-appeal.html
AFTER that of the below. Even if you hadn't read the article,
reading the URL alone might have provided the needed clue ;^).
John Briggs
Nov 17, 2012, 4:18:59 PM11/17/12
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Anglo-Catholic conservative wing?
--
John Briggs
geoff
Nov 17, 2012, 8:02:35 PM11/17/12
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geoff
John Briggs
Nov 18, 2012, 4:16:06 PM11/18/12
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That's two separate extremes, rather than one.
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John Briggs
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