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AC

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Sep 14, 2012, 2:56:26 PM9/14/12
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So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?


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News

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Sep 14, 2012, 3:02:56 PM9/14/12
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AC wrote:
> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?
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>


How many exhaust outlets?

John Briggs

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Sep 14, 2012, 3:04:42 PM9/14/12
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On 14/09/2012 19:56, AC wrote:
> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?

A bit excessive for a generator, isn't it?
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Noj

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Sep 14, 2012, 3:21:12 PM9/14/12
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AC wrote ...

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> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?


Problems with your neighbours ?

Mower Man

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Sep 14, 2012, 4:49:38 PM9/14/12
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On 14/09/2012 7:56 PM, AC wrote:
> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?
>
>

Of course. How much supercharge/turbocharge pressure would you like? How
much nitro in the fuel supply?

How long would you like said engine to last in battle is another
question though.

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AC

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Sep 14, 2012, 5:48:08 PM9/14/12
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Lets go with 8? Best be silenced and have catalytic converters too to
comply with EU regs.

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AC

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Sep 14, 2012, 5:48:59 PM9/14/12
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John Briggs wrote:
> On 14/09/2012 19:56, AC wrote:
>> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?
>
> A bit excessive for a generator, isn't it?

No, I don't want to illuminate the dear thing, it must be powered for
battle.

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AC

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Sep 14, 2012, 5:49:48 PM9/14/12
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No, they are OAP's, all I need for them is an audio of a doodle bug.

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AC

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Sep 14, 2012, 5:56:28 PM9/14/12
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Mower Man wrote:
> On 14/09/2012 7:56 PM, AC wrote:
>> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?
>>
>>
>
> Of course. How much supercharge/turbocharge pressure would you like? How
> much nitro in the fuel supply?

All pressure and nitro you like.

So, you reckon a 1.7 could get me battle tank to war then?

>
> How long would you like said engine to last in battle is another
> question though.
>

Let's say it needs to drive to, say, Bristol from Surrey, and be good
for a battle, or two. Do you reckon a 1.7 could do it? Heavy thing my
battle tank.

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News

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Sep 14, 2012, 6:05:11 PM9/14/12
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Cue buildy...

Noj

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Sep 14, 2012, 6:08:20 PM9/14/12
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AC wrote ...
Unlikely. The scorpion 'light' tank uses a Jaguar J60 4.2 litre in-line
6 cylinder petrol engine.

Now, if you had 10, 1.7 litre engines...


AC

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Sep 14, 2012, 6:09:34 PM9/14/12
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No, he wont like my tank. Unless, we could fuel it with beer. Yeah,
turbo beer tank. I'm liking that. OK, more amber than green, but hey,
its close.

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AC

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Sep 14, 2012, 6:11:04 PM9/14/12
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Oh no, really? Not with superchargers, turbos, nitrous, and a bit of a
shove? No chance at all? Damn.

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John Briggs

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Sep 14, 2012, 6:55:01 PM9/14/12
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You can't drive a battle tank that far on its tracks. (Well, you can but
it shortens their life considerably.)
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Ian Dalziel

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Sep 14, 2012, 7:22:33 PM9/14/12
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Wouldn't a battle or two be likely to shorten their lives?

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AC

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Sep 14, 2012, 7:38:49 PM9/14/12
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That's OK, I'll take spares. Its the 1.7 I'm bothered about.

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Chet

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Sep 14, 2012, 11:36:44 PM9/14/12
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When is the next great tank war? The last one during the cold war
failed to materialize.

John Briggs

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Sep 15, 2012, 1:43:26 AM9/15/12
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Yes, but that's what they are designed for. It's like F1 gearboxes
having to last 5 races - you use an old one for Friday testing.
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Geoff May

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Sep 15, 2012, 3:49:41 AM9/15/12
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On 14/09/2012 19:56, AC wrote:
> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?

I think that if you can afford an MBT then the size and type of engine
is a very minor cost.

Cheers

Geoff

Sla#s

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Sep 15, 2012, 6:14:15 AM9/15/12
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AC wrote:
> Mower Man wrote:
>> On 14/09/2012 7:56 PM, AC wrote:
>>> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Of course. How much supercharge/turbocharge pressure would you like?
>> How much nitro in the fuel supply?
>
> All pressure and nitro you like.

No sorry, the "One fuel forward" program mandates JP8 (kerosene) for all
military land and air vehicles.

Slatts


Mower Man

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Sep 15, 2012, 6:55:13 AM9/15/12
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Whether true today or not, tank engines of the past were notable for
their ability to burn anything from peanut butter to scotch whisky.

AC

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Sep 15, 2012, 7:35:48 AM9/15/12
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Not in my military.

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AC

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Sep 15, 2012, 7:37:08 AM9/15/12
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True, but not the point.

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AC

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Sep 15, 2012, 7:37:28 AM9/15/12
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This is a one tank war.

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Geoff May

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Sep 15, 2012, 10:06:54 AM9/15/12
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On 15/09/2012 12:37, AC wrote:
> Geoff May wrote:
>> On 14/09/2012 19:56, AC wrote:
>>> So, could a 1.7 litre engine power a main battle tank?
>>
>> I think that if you can afford an MBT then the size and type of engine
>> is a very minor cost.
>
> True, but not the point.

:-)

What sort of weight are you talking about for your tank?

I'm thinking that a Challenger 2 is around 62,500kg and it has a 1200bhp
engine. This is enough power to give it a top speed on the road of
around 40mph and off road with 25mph.

Assuming you are looking at the same weight, 1200bhp out of a 1.7lt is
quite possible. Others have already mentioned turbo- or super-charging
and the fuel will be important too.

Cheers

Geoff

AC

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Sep 15, 2012, 10:12:17 PM9/15/12
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Ah, you reckon it is actually do-able? Cool.

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Atheist Chaplain

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Sep 16, 2012, 12:32:31 AM9/16/12
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"Geoff May" <GeoffMay_do...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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while it is possible to get huge HP out of a small engine with forced
induction and exotic fuel blends (not your 100RON from the shell down the
road) the ability of a 1.7 to generate enough torque would be my biggest
worry.

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Noj

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Sep 16, 2012, 4:22:38 AM9/16/12
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Atheist Chaplain wrote ...


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> while it is possible to get huge HP out of a small engine with forced
> induction and exotic fuel blends (not your 100RON from the shell down the
> road) the ability of a 1.7 to generate enough torque would be my biggest
> worry.


I dunno, AC has had a few replies.




Geoff May

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Sep 16, 2012, 4:34:07 AM9/16/12
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On 16/09/2012 05:32, Atheist Chaplain wrote:
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> [snipped]
>
> while it is possible to get huge HP out of a small engine with forced
> induction and exotic fuel blends (not your 100RON from the shell down
> the road) the ability of a 1.7 to generate enough torque would be my
> biggest worry.

I'm not sure that is going to be a problem. If the gearbox has loads of
gears with the correct ratios, that would be enough to get the thing
moving. Once it is moving, power is what is required to keep it moving.

That might make it rather unwieldy for a real battle but it depends what
it has to fight.

Cheers

Geoff

Bigbird

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Sep 16, 2012, 5:19:24 AM9/16/12
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An Aussie windbag?

Atheist Chaplain

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Sep 16, 2012, 6:55:08 AM9/16/12
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"Geoff May" <GeoffMay_do...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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hmm your probably right :-)
Won't win any drag races though.
maybe a CVT would be in order.

bugalugs

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Sep 18, 2012, 8:21:14 PM9/18/12
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On 16/09/2012 8:34 p.m., Geoff May wrote:
> On 16/09/2012 05:32, Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>>
>> [snipped]
>>
>> while it is possible to get huge HP out of a small engine with forced
>> induction and exotic fuel blends (not your 100RON from the shell down
>> the road) the ability of a 1.7 to generate enough torque would be my
>> biggest worry.
>
> I'm not sure that is going to be a problem. If the gearbox has loads of
> gears with the correct ratios, that would be enough to get the thing
> moving. Once it is moving, power is what is required to keep it moving.
>
I suppose once it was moving and they wanted a bit more speed the crew
could have got out and pushed.


> That might make it rather unwieldy for a real battle but it depends what
> it has to fight.
>
> Cheers
>
> Geoff


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