2009 Qualifying Statistics #10 - Hungaroring
Brian Lawrence
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2009 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004
Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos ASP Pos ASP
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1. 3.20 [+0.53] J Button 16 14.72 14 13.94 3 7.78 4 5.9 3 5.5
2. 3.40 [-0.16] S Vettel 10 11.00 15 14.38 - - - - - -
3. 4.50 [+0.83] R Barrichello 17 14.83 16 15.00 6 7.61 13 10.5 2 4.6
4. 5.80 [-0.31] M Webber 9 9.17 7 9.06 7 11.06 8 8.0 13 9.7
5. 7.60 [-0.29] N Rosberg 12 12.11 9 9.88 12 13.33 - - - -
[7] 7.60 [-0.73] F Alonso 6 6.89 2 3.18 1 4.28 1 4.0 7 7.6
7. [6] 8.10 [-0.12] K R�ikk�nen =3 4.39 3 3.53 4 5.83 2 5.7 9 8.2
8. [9] 8.67 F Massa 1 2.94 4 4.24 2 6.67 17 11.9 18 13.5
9. [8] 8.70 [+0.26] J Trulli 7 7.61 8 9.24 14 10.28 5 6.1 6 6.7
10. 10.80 [-0.20] S Nakajima 18 15.11 22 19.00 - - - - - -
11.[12] 11.30 [-0.59] H Kovalainen =3 4.39 10 10.71 - - - - - -
12.[15] 12.00 [-0.89] L Hamilton 2 3.89 1 2.59 - - - - - -
13.[11] 12.30 [+0.63] R Kubica 5 5.83 6 7.00 9 8.83 - - - -
14. 12.40 [+0.07] T Glock 11 11.11 - - - - - - 22 16.5
15.[13] 12.50 [+0.28] N Heidfeld 8 9.00 5 5.41 10 10.17 12 9.6 21 16.0
16. 14.10 [-0.01] N Piquet 14 13.50 - - - - - - - -
17. 14.90 [-0.54] S Buemi - - - - - - - - - -
18. 16.50 [+0.06] A Sutil 20 18.94 23 20.29 - - - - - -
19. 17.11 S Bourdais 15 13.67 - - - - - - - -
20. 17.20 [-0.13] G Fisichella 19 18.33 11 10.82 3 5.61 3 5.7 17 12.3
21. [-] 19.00 J Alguersauri - - - - - - - - - -
Average positions include all demotions such as engine/gearbox change penalties,
but not necessarily last-minute changes such as pitlane starts.
Average Team Starting Position 2009 - after Hungaroring, Qualifying #10
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2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004
Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos ASP
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1. 3.85 [+0.68] Brawn 9. 14.78 8. 14.47 4. 7.75 4. 8.5 3. 6.8 *
2. 4.60 [-0.23] Red Bull 6. 11.00 6. 11.21 8. 14.65 7. 11.2 6. 11.7 *
3. 8.37 [-0.07] Ferrari 1. 3.67 2. 3.88 2. 6.06 6. 9.4 1. 4.2
4. 9.20 [-0.24] Williams 8. 13.58 7. 12.65 7. 12.19 5. 9.3 2. 6.4
5. 10.55 [+0.16] Toyota 4. 9.36 4. 10.79 5. 10.11 3. 7.5 7. 11.8
6. 10.70 [-0.36] Renault 5. 10.19 5. 10.82 1. 4.94 1. 4.8 4. 7.5
7. 11.65 [-0.74] McLaren 2. 4.11 1. 2.88 3. 6.89 2. 6.6 5. 8.8
8. 12.40 [+0.46] BMW-Sauber 3. 7.42 3. 6.18 6. 10.81 8. 11.9 8. 12.9 *
9. 16.10 [-0.18] T Rosso 7. 12.33 9. 16.21 9. 15.83 10. 17.5 10. 18.5 *
10. 16.85 [-0.04] F India 10. 18.61 11. 20.82 10. 18.06 9. 16.9 9. 16.4 *
* Red Bull = Jaguar (2004), Brawn = Honda (06-08) / BAR (04-05), BMW-Sauber = Sauber
(04-05), Force India = Spyker (07) / Midland (06) / Jordan (04-05), Toro Rosso =
Minardi (04-05)
Team-mates Head-to-Head 2009 - after Hungaroring, Qualifying #10
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Team Driver-1 Driver-2 Posn.
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Renault Alonso 9-1 Piquet +65
Toyota Trulli 9-1 Glock +37
Williams Rosberg 8-2 Nakajima +32
Red Bull Vettel 8-2 Webber +24
Toro Rosso Buemi 7-2 Bourdais +14
Buemi 1-0 Alguersuari +9
[8-2 +23]
Brawn Button 7-3 Barrichello +13
F India Fisichella 6-4 Sutil -9
McLaren Hamilton 6-4 Kovalainen -8
BMW-Sauber Kubica 6-4 Heidfeld +2
Ferrari R�ikk�nen 5-4 Massa +4
Notes: "Posn." shows the advantage in qualifying positions to date. A
positive number shows the driver on the left has the advantage and a
negative number the driver on the right.
2009 Grid Penalties
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Qual Penalty (reason)
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01 AUS Timo Glock 6th pit lane start (rear wing flexing)
01 AUS Jarno Trulli 8th pit lane start (rear wing flexing)
01 AUS Lewis Hamilton 15th 5-place penalty (changed gearbox)
02 MAL Sebastian Vettel 3rd 10-place penalty (caused accident in AUS)
02 MAL R Barrichello 4th 5-place penalty (changed gearbox)
03 CHN Timo Glock 14th 5-place penalty (changed gearbox)
04 BRN Adrian Sutil 16th 3-place penalty (blocked Webber)
06 MON Lewis Hamilton 16th 5-place penalty (changed gearbox)
09 GER Timo Glock 19th 3-place penalty (blocked Alonso)
Appearances in Each Qualifying Session
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Q-1 Q-2 Q-3
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J Button 10 10 10
S Vettel 10 10 10
R Barrichello 10 10 9
N Rosberg 10 10 9
K R�ikk�nen 10 9 9
M Webber 10 9 9
F Alonso 10 10 8
J Trulli 10 9 7
F Massa 10 9 6* HUN (0 laps)
T Glock 10 8 5
L Hamilton 10 7* 4 AUS (0 laps)
R Kubica 10 6 4
K Nakajima 10 10 3
H Kovalainen 10 9 3
N Piquet 10 6 1
S Buemi 10 4 1
A Sutil 10 3 1
N Heidfeld 10 8 0
S Bourdais 9 2 0
G Fisichella 10 1 0
J Alguersauri 1 0 0
* Set no time in one or more sessions.
Best Qualifying Performances (Current Drivers)
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Best in 2009 Best in Best in Best in Best before 2006
Driver Posn.(#) GP(s) 2008 (#) 2007 (#) 2006 (#) Posn. (#) First - Last
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J Button Pole (4) .... 9th (1) 6th (1) Pole (1) Pole (2) RSM 04 - CDN 05
S Vettel Pole (3) . . . Pole (1) 7th (1) --- ---
J Trulli Pole (1) BRN 2nd (1) 6th (1) 3rd (1) Pole (3) MON 04 - USA 05
M Webber Pole (1) GER 2nd (1) 5th (1) 2nd (1) 2nd (2) MAL 04 - ESP 05
F Alonso Pole (1) HUN 2nd (1) Pole (2) Pole (6) Pole (9) MAL 03 - CHN 05
R Barrichello 2nd (3) . . . 9th (1) 9th (1) 3rd (2) Pole (13) BEL 94 - BRA 04
T Glock 2nd (1) BRN 5th (1) --- --- 16th (2) CDN 04 - CHN 04
K R�ikk�nen 2nd (1) MON Pole (2) Pole (3) Pole (3) Pole (8) Eur 03 - TUR 05
R Kubica 4th (1) AUS Pole (1) 4th (1) 6th (1) ---
N Rosberg 4th (1) MAL 5th (2) 4th (1) 3rd (1) ---
F Massa 4th (1) ESP Pole (6) Pole (6) Pole (3) 4th (3) AUT 02 - BRA 04
L Hamilton 4th (1) HUN Pole (7) Pole (6) --- ---
K Nakajima 5th (1) GBR 10th (1) 19th (1) --- ---
H Kovalainen 6th (2) GER/HUN Pole (1) 6th (2) --- ---
A Sutil 7th (1) GER 16th (1) 19th (3) --- ---
N Heidfeld 9th (1) AUS 5th (4) 2nd (1) 3rd (1) Pole (1) Eur 05
S Buemi 10th (2) CHN/HUN --- --- --- ---
N Piquet 10th (1) GER 7th (1) --- --- ---
G Fisichella 13th (1) MON 12th (1) 4th (1) Pole (1) Pole (2) AUT 98 - AUS 05
S Bourdais 14th (1) MON 4th (1) --- --- ---
J Alguersauri 19th (1) HUN --- --- --- ---
Personal Bests set at N�rburgring 2009
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Career In 2009
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Pole F Alonso (18) F Alonso
4th L Hamilton
6th H Kovalainen (2)
10th S Buemi (2) S Buemi (2)
19th J Alguersauri J Alguersauri
Most Pole Positions
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1950-2002 (Top 25) Since 2003 (Top 10)
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1 Ayrton Senna 65 1 Michael Schumacher 18 +
2 Michael Schumacher 50 + Fernando Alonso 18
3 Jim Clark 33 3 Kimi R�ikk�nen 16
Alain Prost 33 4 Felipe Massa 15
5 Nigel Mansell 32 5 Lewis Hamilton 13
6 Juan Manuel Fangio 29 6 Rubens Barrichello 7 +
7 Mika H�kkinen 26 Jenson Button 7
8 Niki Lauda 24 8 Ralf Schumacher 5 +
Nelson Piquet 24 9 Jarno Trulli 4
10 Damon Hill 20 Sebastian Vettel 4
11 Mario Andretti 18
Ren� Arnoux 18
13 Jackie Stewart 17
14 Stirling Moss 16 + also achieved poles in other era
15 Alberto Ascari 14
Ronnie Peterson 14
James Hunt 14
18 Graham Hill 13
Jack Brabham 13
Jacky Ickx 13
Jacques Villeneuve 13
21 David Coulthard 12
Gerhard Berger 12
24 Jochen Rindt 10
Juan Pablo Montoya 10 +
Since 2003 we have had:
* Single lap qualifying (2003-05, except for AUS-MON 2005)
* Two single-lap sessions aggregated (AUS-MON 2005 only)
* Knockout, 3-period, race fuel (from EUR 2005)
The Recent Record of Pole Position Holders at the Hungaroring
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Year Time Driver Chassis Rslt Winner Grd
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2000 1'17.514 M Schumacher Ferrari F1-2000 2nd H�kkinen McLaren 3rd
2001 1'14.059 M Schumacher Ferrari F2001 1st
2002 1'13.333 R Barrichello Ferrari F2002 1st
----
2003 1'21.688 F Alonso Renault R23B 1st
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2004 1'19.323 M Schumacher Ferrari F2004 1st
2005 1'19.882 M Schumacher Ferrari F2005 2nd R�ikk�nen McLaren 4th
2006 1'19.599 K R�ikk�nen McLaren MP4/21 DNF Button Honda 14th
2007 1'19.781 L Hamilton McLaren MP4/22 1st
2008 1'20.899 L Hamilton McLaren MP4/22 5th Kovalainen McLaren 2nd
2009 1'21.569 F Alonso Renault R29 DNF Hamilton McLaren 4th
---- indicates changes in track layout and/or lap length.
Note: 2003-05 was decided on "single lap". Since 2006 the grid has been
decided on a three-period knockout system. The "pole time" is no longer
necessarily the fastest time set during qualifying.
There have been 24 Grands Prix at the Hungaroring,
11 have been won from pole position (last was Hamilton in 2007),
four have been won from second (Kovalainen in 2008),
five have been won from third (H�kkinen in 2000), and
four have been won from lower grid positions - (Mansell, 1989,
12th; R�ikk�nen, 2005, 4th; Button 2006, 14th, Hamilton 2009, 4th).
Average grid position of winners = 2.833.
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_...@msn.com
Brian Lawrence
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I posted these comparisons from 2006 to 2008 to illustrate changes in top speeds as
measured through the speed traps.
These were the top speeds registered by each driver during the event.
Team Driver Sess Speed
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McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton Race 299.5 kph
McLaren-Mercedes Kovalainen Race 298.3
F India-Mercedes Fisichella Race 289.3
Brawn-Mercedes Barrichello Race 288.3
Red Bull-Renault Vettel Q2 288.2
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld Race 287.8
Ferrari R�ikk�nen Race 287.8
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Race 287.2
Brawn-Mercedes Button Race 287.0
Ferrari Massa P2 287.0
T Rosso-Ferrari Alguersuari Race 286.5
Renault Piquet Race 286.3
Red Bull-Renault Webber Race 285.1
Renault Alonso P1 284.9
T Rosso-Ferrari Buemi Q2 284.4
F India-Mercedes Sutil P2 283.9
Williams-Toyota Nakajima Race 283.0
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Race 282.0
Toyota Glock Race 281.9
Toyota Trulli Race 281.6
No less than 15 drivers set their top speeds during the race. Of the five others, Massa
wasn't
able to race anyway, Sutil lasted one lap, and Alonso retired after 13, leaving Vettel,
who
also had a short race and Buemi.
The first table compares the 2008 team/driver combination with the equivalent 2009
team/driver - the same driver if possible, otherwise the 2008 driver is compared to
his 2009 replacement. This comparison is intended as a team comparison, but the first
(driver) table is also of some interest - but should be read with care.
Notes
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Honda have been renamed Brawn-Mercedes and Force India have switched from
Ferrari to Mercedes engines.
'S#' Session in which the top speed was recorded (P1/P2/P3/Q1/Q2/Q3/R)
'Diff' difference in top speed (km/hr)
'%Dif' difference in top speed (as percentage of 2008 speed)
Hungarian GP 2008/2009
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2008 2009
Team-Engine Driver S# km/h Driver S# km/h Dif. %Dif.
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McLaren-Mercedes Kovalainen P1 294.8 Kovalainen R 298.3 +3.5 +1.19
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton P1 297.7 Hamilton R 299.5 +1.8 +0.60
[Honda] Barrichello Q1 288.7 Barrichello R 288.3 -0.4 -0.14
F India-[Ferrari] Fisichella P1 290.7 Fisichella R 289.3 -1.4 -0.48
[Honda] Button P2 289.3 Button R 287.0 -2.3 -0.80
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard Q1 291.6 Vettel Q2 288.2 -3.4 -1.17
F India-[Ferrari] Sutil P2 289.2 Sutil P2 283.9 -5.3 -1.83
Ferrari Massa P1 292.4 Massa P2 287.0 -5.4 -1.85
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld P1 293.5 Heidfeld R 287.8 -5.7 -1.94
Red Bull-Renault Webber Q2 290.8 Webber R 285.1 -5.7 -1.96
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q2 293.2 Kubica R 287.2 -6.0 -2.05
Renault Piquet Q2 292.6 Piquet R 286.3 -6.3 -2.15
Ferrari R�ikk�nen P1 294.6 R�ikk�nen R 287.8 -6.8 -2.31
Toyota Trulli Q2 289.0 Trulli R 281.6 -7.4 -2.56
T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel Q1 292.7 Buemi Q2 284.4 -8.3 -2.84
T Rosso-Ferrari Bourdais Q1 295.0 Alguersuari R 286.5 -8.5 -2.88
Renault Alonso Q1 294.5 Alonso P1 284.9 -9.6 -3.26
Toyota Glock Q1 291.4 Glock R 281.9 -9.5 -3.26
Williams-Toyota Rosberg P1 292.0 Rosberg R 282.0 -10.0 -3.42
Williams-Toyota Nakajima Q1 293.2 Nakajima R 283.0 -10.2 -3.48
Only the rejuvenated McLarens were faster than at last years event. The top five cars
were all Mercedes-powered - the bottom three were Toyotas. Fifteen 2009 bests came in
the race but none did so last year.
The second table compares the top speed achieved by each team (IE the top
speed of both drivers), and as such is a better comparison.
2008 2009
Team-Engine Driver S# km/h Driver S# km/h Diff. %Diff.
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McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton P1 297.7 Hamilton R 299.5 +1.8 +0.60
[Honda] Button P2 289.3 Barrichello R 288.3 -1.0 -0.35
F India-[Ferrari] Fisichella P1 290.7 Fisichella R 289.3 -1.4 -0.48
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard Q1 291.6 Vettel Q2 288.2 -3.4 -1.17
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld P1 293.5 Heidfeld R 287.8 -5.7 -1.94
Ferrari R�ikk�nen P1 294.6 R�ikk�nen R 287.8 -6.8 -2.31
Renault Alonso Q1 294.5 Piquet R 286.3 -8.2 -2.86
T Rosso-Ferrari Bourdais Q1 295.0 Alguersuari R 286.5 -8.5 -2.88
Toyota Glock Q1 291.4 Glock R 281.9 -9.5 -3.26
Williams-Toyota Nakajima Q1 293.2 Nakajima R 283.0 -10.2 -3.48
Only McLaren posted a better top speed than in 2008.
Taking the positions from table 2 at each race (1 is most improved, 10 is
least improved) and averaging them gives a season average position.
Team R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 R8 R9 R10 Tot Avg.
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1. F India-Mercedes 3 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 - 3 16 1.78
2. Brawn-Mercedes 2 6 5 4 2 3 5 3 - 2 32 3.56
3. Red Bull-Renault 5 1 2 7 5 4 4 5 - 4 37 4.11
4. BMW Sauber-BMW 1 5 9 6 8 7 7 6 - 5 54 6.00
5. Renault 7 3 7 9 3 10 2 7 - 7 55 6.11
6. Toyota 10 4 6 2 7 8 9 2 - 9 57 6.33
7. T Rosso-Ferrari 4 7 4 5 9 9 3 9 - 8 58 6.44
8. McLaren-Mercedes 9 10 10 3 4 5 8 10 - 1 60 6.67
9. Williams-Toyota 6 8 8 8 6 6 6 4 - 10 62 6.89
10. Ferrari 8 9 1 10 10 2 10 8 - 6 64 7.11
All data from www.fia.com or www.formula1.com.
Brian Lawrence
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Q: How does the best lap of the whole weekend (3 practice sessions, 3 qualifying
periods and the race) compare to the best lap of the weekend in 2008?
Here are two tables - one compares driver with driver; easy enough if the same
driver remains in the same team. If not we compare the 2008 driver with the guy
who replaced him.
Note: Honda has morphed into Brawn-Mercedes, while Force India have switched
from Ferrari to Mercedes power.
'S' is the session when the best lap was achieved (P1/P2/P3/Q1/Q2/Q3/R)
'Lps' are the total laps in all sessions
'Diff' is the gain/loss in seconds
'%Diff' is the difference in time as a percentage of the 2008 time
Negative Diff/%Diff mean that the driver/team improved. Positive means they
got worse.
There can be several reasons for the variations seen.
2008 Team 2008 Driver S Lps Time 2009 Driver S Lps Time Diff. %Diff
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Williams-Toyota Nakajima Q1 150 1'21.085 Nakajima Q2 178 1'20.570 -0.515 -0.64
F India-[Ferrari] Sutil Q1 157 1'22.113 Sutil Q1 68 1'21.868 -0.245 -0.30
[Honda] Barrichello Q1 155 1'21.332 Barrichello Q2 171 1'21.222 -0.110 -0.14
Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q1 153 1'20.748 Rosberg Q1 189 1'20.793 +0.045 +0.06
Red Bull-Renault Coulthard Q2 152 1'20.502 Vettel Q2 125 1'20.604 +0.102 +0.13
F India-[Ferrari] Fisichella Q1 164 1'21.670 Fisichella Q1 163 1'21.807 +0.137 +0.17
Red Bull-Renault Webber Q2 171 1'20.046 Webber Q2 158 1'20.358 +0.312 +0.39
BMW Sauber-BMW Heidfeld Q1 160 1'21.045 Heidfeld P3 167 1'21.408 +0.363 +0.45
[Honda] Button Q2 171 1'20.332 Button Q2 179 1'20.707 +0.375 +0.47
T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel Q2 70 1'20.144 Buemi Q2 194 1'21.002 +0.858 +1.07
Renault Alonso Q2 159 1'19.816 Alonso Q2 119 1'20.826 +1.010 +1.27
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton Q1 149 1'19.376 Hamilton Q2 168 1'20.465 +1.089 +1.37
Ferrari R嚙箠kk嚙緯en Q2 164 1'19.546 R嚙箠kk嚙緯en Q2 176 1'20.647 +1.101 +1.38
Renault Piquet Q2 167 1'20.131 Piquet Q1 166 1'21.278 +1.147 +1.43
McLaren-Mercedes Kovalainen Q2 151 1'19.480 Kovalainen Q2 176 1'20.807 +1.327 +1.67
Toyota Trulli Q2 175 1'19.486 Trulli Q2 158 1'21.082 +1.596 +2.01
T Rosso-Ferrari Bourdais Q1 171 1'20.640 Alguersuari Q1 181 1'22.359 +1.719 +2.13
Ferrari Massa Q2 152 1'19.068 Massa Q2 94 1'20.823 +1.755 +2.22
Toyota Glock Q2 176 1'19.246 Glock Q2 176 1'21.242 +1.996 +2.52
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q2 161 1'19.776 Kubica Q1 158 1'21.901 +2.125 +2.66
Notes
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Only three drivers - Nakajima, Sutil & Barrichello - were able to set better lap times
than
they achieved in 2008.
The second table takes the best lap time from both drivers in each team and compares
with the equivalent team last season. Probably a better comparison.
2008 Team 2008 Driver S Lps Time 2009 Driver S Lps Time Diff. %Diff
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Williams-Toyota Rosberg Q1 303 1'20.748 Nakajima Q2 367 1'20.793 +0.045 +0.06
F India-[Ferrari] Fisichella Q1 321 1'21.670 Fisichella Q1 231 1'21.807 +0.137 +0.17
Red Bull-Renault Webber Q2 323 1'20.046 Webber Q2 283 1'20.358 +0.312 +0.39
[Honda] Button Q2 326 1'20.332 Button Q2 350 1'20.707 +0.375 +0.47
BMW Sauber-BMW Kubica Q2 321 1'19.776 Heidfeld P3 325 1'21.901 +0.375 +0.47
T Rosso-Ferrari Vettel Q2 241 1'20.144 Buemi Q2 375 1'21.002 +0.858 +1.07
Renault Alonso Q2 326 1'19.816 Alonso Q2 285 1'20.826 +1.010 +1.27
McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton Q1 300 1'19.376 Hamilton Q2 344 1'20.465 +1.089 +1.37
Ferrari Massa Q2 316 1'19.068 R嚙箠kk嚙緯en Q2 270 1'20.823 +1.755 +2.22
Toyota Glock Q2 351 1'19.246 Trulli Q2 334 1'21.242 +1.996 +2.52
All 10 teams were slower than in 2008.
Taking the positions of the teams from table 2 we can produce an average position for
the season to date.
Team R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 R8 R9 R10 Tot Avg.
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1. Brawn-Mercedes 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 - 4 14 1.56
2. Williams-Toyota 3 2 4 6 3 7 2 2 - 1 30 3.33
3. Red Bull-Renault 2 4 3 3 2 4 4 6 - 3 31 3.44
4. F India-Mercedes 8 6 1 1 5 2 3 5 - 2 33 3.67
5. Toyota 4 3 5 7 4 9 5 3 - 10 50 5.56
Renault 5 5 6 4 8 5 6 4 - 7 50 5.56
7. T Rosso-Ferrari 10 7 8 5 6 3 7 9 - 6 61 6.78
8. BMW Sauber-BMW 7 8 7 9 9 10 8 8 - 5 71 7.89
9. Ferrari 6 9 9 10 7 6 9 7 - 9 72 8.00
10. McLaren-Mercedes 9 10 10 8 10 8 10 10 - 8 83 9.22
Brian Lawrence
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2009 is the 12th season that I have posted these amateur overtaking analyses. My intention
was to allow easier comparisons between Grands Prix, seasons, circuits, drivers, etc.
In order to make any meaningful and/or useful observations it is essential to produce the
stats in as consistent a way as possible. To do this I have devised several "rules" that
I try to follow for each event. Please note before posting to complain that I missed an
obvious passing manoeuvre that it has probably been excluded because of one of my "rules".
The rules are outlined in the "Disclaimer" below - please read it.
This analysis was mainly derived from the official FIA lap chart, which is usually
available from www.fia.com, http://forix.autosport.com or www.autosport.com/f1/ on race
day or the following day. The original charts remain copyright of the FIA.
Other excellent Formula One websites are available. This analysis is completely and
totally
unofficial.
Disclaimer
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For the purposes of this analysis, I only count what I will term "genuine" passing
manoeuvres, which means that I always exclude:
a) any place changes made during pit stops
b) all lapping or unlapping manoeuvres
c) any place changes made during the first lap
Hopefully, a) & b) are obvious. c) is because although lap one is often the best
opportunity to make up places, it is also not typical of the rest of the race, and so,
for the purpose of comparing races with other races and seasons with other seasons,
it is simpler to exclude lap one completely. I do summarise the changes on lap one
later in the post.
For the purposes of this analysis a "pit stop" encompasses the slowing down lap and the
out lap, since any passes during those laps MIGHT be due to the driver slowing down or
speeding up.
Passes are not counted in these stats UNLESS the gained position is held until the
start/finish line is next crossed and so gets recorded onto the lap chart. I try to
ignore anything that isn't recorded in the lap chart, even if it was seen on TV.
These are the passes I read for the 2009 Hungarian GP:
Lap Place Passer (Passed) KERS
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2 8 Button (Nakajima) -/-
5 3 Hamilton (Webber) K/-
13 13 Heidfeld (Buemi) -/-
That's 3 passes in total, the same number as in 2008.
The Last 10 Seasons
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To save space I have removed the columns for 1997-98 from this table, but I have included
the data from those two seasons in the Total & Avg. columns. The number of passes for each
GP in 1997-98 is summarised following the main table.
1997-2009
Grand Prix 2009 '08 '07 '06 '05 '04 '03 '02 '01 '00 '99 Total Avg.
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1. Australia 10 11 11 23 5 9 38 19 18 13 41 208 17.3
2. Malaysia 17 11 12 16 7 20 16 27 47 31 11 216 19.6
3. China 61 9 40 51 20 17 -- -- -- -- -- 198 33.0
4. Bahrain 13 14 20 39 14 15 -- -- -- -- -- 115 19.2
5. Spain 4 3 5 7 3 7 19 10 10 4 4 124 9.5
6. Monaco 5 21 2 19 10 5 0 9 6 2 5 117 9.0
7. Turkey 10 11 15 25 30 -- -- -- -- -- -- 91 18.2
8. Britain 9 44 16 6 8 11 49 47 7 8 13 269 20.7
9. Germany 18 25 -- 21 9 29 14 25 15 42 16 238 19.8
10. Hungary 3 3 5 32 12 6 25 1 5 10 7 148 12.3
11. Europe-3 -- 4 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 4 4.0
12. Belgium -- 29 15 -- 28 22 -- 5 8 16 15 200 20.0
13. Italy -- 33 10 12 14 38 5 20 19 18 14 215 17.9
14. Singapore -- 12 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 12 12.0
15. Japan-2 -- 26 46 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 72 36.0
16. Brazil -- 21 20 18 6 41 48 30 26 22 27 295 29.9
17. Abu Dhabi -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0 0.0
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-- Austria -- -- -- -- -- -- 20 18 17 20 30 155 22.1
-- Canada -- 17 21 9 12 19 8 15 13 14 14 174 14.5
-- Europe-2 -- -- 18 13 24 11 8 27 7 28 33 186 16.9
-- France -- 9 6 5 5 14 12 3 8 17 43 146 12.2
-- Japan-1 -- -- -- 13 12 21 20 2 17 8 4 125 12.5
-- San Marino -- -- -- 4 7 6 4 6 13 7 11 71 7.1
-- USA -- -- 14 5 0 16 36 21 21 51 - 164 20.5
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Totals 150 303 276 318 226 307 322 285 257 311 288 3615 16.7
No. GP 10 18 17 18 19 18 16 17 17 17 16 216
Race Avg. 15 17 16 18 12 17 20 17 15 18 18 17
1997-98
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Year Tot AUS BRA ARG RSM MON ESP CDN FRA GBR GER HUN BEL ITA AUT LUX JPN Eur
============================================================================
1997 331 3 32 39 5 29 36 22 7 7 14 28 51 4 21 11 9 13
1998 240 7 13 11 8 4 12 10 17 44 10 11 11 28 29 6 19 --
Note: In 1997-98 the Luxembourg GP [LUX] was held at the N�rburgring, and is
considered as equivalent to the European GP (1999-2007) - Europe-2. Europe-3 is
the Valencia venue. The 1997 European GP took place at Jerez (Europe-1), and is
a one-off event in the era covered by this table.
Top 30 Races for Overtaking (1997-2009)
=======================================
# Year GP Wet SC
===========================================
1. 61 2009 - China Wet SC (2)
2. 51 1997 - Belgium Wet SC (1)
51 2000 - USA Wet
51 2006 - China Wet
5. 49 2003 - Britain SC (2)
6. 48 2003 - Brazil Wet SC (4) Race stopped
7. 47 1999 - Australia SC (2)
47 2001 - Malaysia Wet SC (1)
47 2002 - Britain Showers
10. 46 2007 - Japan Wet SC (2)
11. 44 1998 - Britain Wet SC (1)
12. 43 1999 - France Wet SC (1)
13. 42 2000 - Germany Wet SC (2)
14. 41 2004 - Brazil Wet track
15. 40 2007 - China Wet
16. 39 1997 - Argentine SC (1)
39 2006 - Bahrain
18. 38 2003 - Australia SC (2)
38 2004 - Italy
20. 36 1997 - Spain
36 2003 - USA Wet
22. 33 1999 - Europe Wet
23. 32 1997 - Brazil
32 2006 - Hungary Wet SC (1)
25. 30 1999 - Austria
30 2002 - Brazil
30 2005 - Turkey
28. 29 1997 - Monaco Wet
29 1998 - Austria SC (1)
29 2004 - Germany
Top 20 'Dry' Races (Not wet & no Safety Car)
============================================
1. 39 2006 - Bahrain
2. 38 2004 - Italy
3. 36 1997 - Spain
4. 32 1997 - Brazil
5. 30 1999 - Austria
30 2002 - Brazil
30 2005 - Turkey
8. 29 2004 - Germany
9. 28 1997 - Hungary
28 1998 - Italy
28 2005 - Belgium
12. 27 1999 - Brazil
27 2002 - Malaysia
27 2002 - Europe
15. 25 2002 - Germany
25 2003 - Hungary
17. 24 2005 - Europe
18. 22 2000 - Brazil
19. 21 1997 - Austria
21 2001 - USA
21 2002 - USA
21 2004 - Japan
21 2006 - Germany
Drivers' Season Total
=====================
AUS MAL CHN BRN ESP MON TUR GBR GER HUN Eur
=============================================================
17 Hamilton 4 1 6 - 1 1 1 2 - 1
16 Glock 1 5 6 - - 1 2 - 1 -
15 Alonso 1 1 7 1 1 - - 2 2 -
11 Sutil 1 1 7 - - - 2 - - -
11 Fisichella - - 1 1 - 1 - 3 5 -
10 Kubica - - 8 - 1 - - 1 - -
9 Barrichello 1 2 - 2 - - 4 - - -
9 Button - - 2 1 - - - 1 4 1
7 Webber - 2 2 3 - - - - - -
7 Buemi - 1 3 1 - - 1 - 1 -
6 Heidfeld 1 - 1 - - 1 - - 2 1
5 R�ikk�nen - 1 4 - - - - - - -
5 Vettel - 3 1 - 1 - - - - -
4 Kovalainen - - 4 - - - - - - -
4 Bourdais - - 4 - - - - - - .
4 Massa - - 3 1 - - - - - .
4 Nakajima - - 1 1 - - - - 2 -
2 Piquet - - 1 1 - - - - - -
2 Rosberg - - - 1 - 1 - - - -
2 Trulli 1 - - - - - - - 1 -
0 Alguersuari . . . . . . . . . -
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150 10 17 61 13 4 5 10 9 18 3
No. of Times Overtaken
======================
AUS MAL CHN BRN ESP MON TUR GBR GER HUN Eur
=============================================================
19 Heidfeld - 4 7 3 - 1 1 1 2 -
13 Trulli - 1 7 1 - 1 1 - 2 -
12 Fisichella 2 1 6 3 - - - - - -
11 Hamilton - 2 3 1 - - 3 2 - -
11 R�ikk�nen - 1 8 - - - 1 - 1 -
9 Piquet 1 1 2 1 1 - 2 1 - -
9 Bourdais 4 - 1 1 - - 1 - 2 .
7 Sutil - - 5 - - 2 - - - -
7 Massa - 1 - 1 2 1 - 1 1 .
7 Alonso 1 3 - - - - - 2 1 -
7 Kubica - - 4 - - - - 2 1 -
7 Buemi 1 - 1 - - - - - 4 1
7 Nakajima - 2 3 - - - - - 1 1
6 Rosberg 1 - 5 - - - - - - -
5 Kovalainen - - 2 1 1 - 1 - - -
5 Glock - - 1 1 - - - - 3 -
3 Button - - 3 - - - - - - -
3 Webber - 1 1 - - - - - - 1
2 Barrichello - - 2 - - - - - - -
0 Vettel - - - - - - - - - -
0 Alguersuari . . . . . . . . . -
---------------------------------------------------------
150 10 17 61 13 4 5 10 9 18 3
Gains/Losses on Lap One
=======================
Plus 4: Kubica
Plus 3: R�ikk�nen, Piquet
Plus 1: Webber, Hamilton, Nakajima, Trulli, Glock
No change: Alonso, Rosberg, Kovalainen, Heidfeld. Alguersuari
Minus 1: Button, Fisichella
Minus 4: Buemi, Barrichello
Minus 5: Vettel
Note: Adrian Sutil pitted (and retired) at the end of lap one.
Gains/Losses on Lap One in 2009
===============================
Driver Total (ASP) AUS MAL CHN BRN ESP MON TUR GBR GER HUN Eur
===================================================================
Rosberg +12 (7.6) -1 +4 - -1 - 0 +4 +1 +5 0
Massa +11 (8.7) +3 +2 - -1 - 0 +1 +3 +3 .
Hamilton +10 (12.0) +2 +1 - +2 - +1 0 +3 - +1
Fisichella +9 (17.2) +2 0 - +4 - -2 +1 +2 +3 -1
R�ikk�nen +9 (8.1) +2 0 - +3 - -1 -3 +4 +1 +3
Kubica +8 (12.3) 0 - - -2 - 0 +2 -1 +5 +4
Piquet +7 (14.1) +3 +2 - +4 - +1 +2 -2 -6 +3
Webber +4 (5.8) - -2 - +4 - 0 +1 0 -1 +1
Bourdais +3 (17.1) +2 -2 - +1 - +1 0 0 +1 .
Heidfeld +2 (12.5) - 0 - +2 - 0 -2 +4 -2 0
Alguersuari 0 (19.0) . . . . . . . . . 0
Sutil -2 (16.5) - 0 - +1 - +1 -2 - -2 -
Alonso -3 (7.6) -5 +4 - -1 - 0 +1 -2 0 0
Buemi -5 (14.9) +1 0 - -4 - -1 -1 +1 +3 -4
Trulli -6 (8.7) - 0 - -1 - -1 +1 -3 -3 +1
Glock -6 (12.4) - -5 - +1 - 0 -1 -2 - +1
Button -7 (3.2) 0 -2 - 0 - 0 +1 -3 -2 -1
Kovalainen -7 (11.3) - - - -6 - 0 +3 -6 +2 0
Vettel -8 (3.4) +1 +1 - -2 - 0 -1 0 -2 -5
Nakajima -10 (10.8) +1 -4 - -4 - 0 +2 +1 -7 +1
Barrichello -14 (4.5) -5 +2 - 0 - +1 -9 0 +1 -4
Note: The number in brackets (ASP) is the average starting position in 2009 (final
grid position after any penalties have been applied).
Obviously, a driver who often starts from pole position has very little chance to
gain places while one who usually starts at the back of the grid has a good chance
of gaining places.
Most Passes 1998-2009
=====================
Using only the data from my statistics these are all drivers who have achieved
50 or more passes.
* Current drivers
Tot Driver Starts Avg.
=========================================
206 R Barrichello * 196 1.051
154 M Schumacher 146 1.055
154 R Schumacher 163 0.945
146 D Coulthard 188 0.776
135 J Button * 163 0.828
133 G Fisichella * 197 0.675
108 J Villeneuve 130 0.831
103 O Panis 98 1.051
102 J Trulli * 195 0.523
101 F Massa * 114 0.886
95 JP Montoya 94 1.011
93 K R�ikk�nen * 148 0.628
92 F Alonso * 131 0.702
89 J Alesi 66 1.348
78 N Heidfeld * 160 0.488
77 M Webber * 131 0.588
76 T Sato 90 0.844
73 H-H Frentzen 91 0.802
67 E Irvine 80 0.838
63 R Kubica * 50 1.260
58 L Hamilton * 45 1.289
54 J Verstappen 58 0.931
52 N Rosberg * 63 0.825
50 M Salo 59 0.847
Two other drivers who didn't quite make the cut - Mika H�kkinen & Pedro de la Rosa
(both 49). Mika 65 starts (0.754), Pedro 71 starts (0.690).
Other current drivers:
45 H Kovalainen 45 1.000
37 A Sutil 45 0.822
30 T Glock 32 0.938
22 S Vettel 36 0.611
21 K Nakajima 29 0.724
14 N Piquet 28 0.500
7 S Buemi 10 0.700
0 J Alguersuari 1 0.000
Sorted by best average passes per race
89 J Alesi 66 1.348
58 L Hamilton * 45 1.289
63 R Kubica * 50 1.260
154 M Schumacher 146 1.055
206 R Barrichello * 196 1.051
103 O Panis 98 1.051
95 JP Montoya 94 1.011
45 H Kovalainen # 45 1.000
154 R Schumacher 163 0.945
30 T Glock # 32 0.938
54 J Verstappen 58 0.931
101 F Massa * 114 0.886
50 M Salo 59 0.847
76 T Sato 90 0.844
67 E Irvine 80 0.838
108 J Villeneuve 130 0.831
135 J Button * 163 0.828
52 N Rosberg * 63 0.825
37 A Sutil # 45 0.822
73 H-H Frentzen 91 0.802
146 D Coulthard 188 0.776
49 M H�kkinen 65 0.754
21 K Nakajima # 29 0.724
92 F Alonso * 130 0.708
7 S Buemi # 10 0.700
49 P de la Rosa 71 0.690
133 G Fisichella * 197 0.675
93 K R�ikk�nen * 148 0.628
22 S Vettel # 36 0.611
77 M Webber * 131 0.588
102 J Trulli * 195 0.523
14 N Piquet # 28 0.500
78 N Heidfeld * 160 0.488
It's not unusual for me to make an occasional mistake or to omit something in
the above. I do, of course, take full responsibility for any errors. I would
be grateful to anyone for pointing them out, and will incorporate any
corrections in later posts.
~misfit~
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Thanks for this Brian, I find it very interesting.
Cheers,
--
Shaun.
"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll
be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
Phil Carmody
> Top Speed Comparisons #10 - Hungaroring
> =======================================
>
> I posted these comparisons from 2006 to 2008 to illustrate changes in top speeds as
> measured through the speed traps.
>
> These were the top speeds registered by each driver during the event.
>
> Team Driver Sess Speed
> ===========================================
> McLaren-Mercedes Hamilton Race 299.5 kph
> McLaren-Mercedes Kovalainen Race 298.3
> F India-Mercedes Fisichella Race 289.3
Very interesting. A huge skew. That's several sigma, and only explainable
if the Maccas are set up completely differently from all the other cars,
or the KERS is actually giving them quite a boost. However, in that latter
case, Ferrari shouldn't be buried in the middle of the list. (Tho' not all
KERSs are equal.)
Phil
--
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expectations and made its parents too proud, but XML is the
drug-addicted gang member who had committed his first murder
before he had sex, which was rape. -- Erik Naggum (1965-2009)