Korea 2012 Driver Of The Day

[build]

Lots of very good drives, lots of battles but of coarse it was a boring GP as usual just ask Richard, Henry, Bird, etc.

However Massa was a step above today so he gets my vote with a special mention to the Hulk for grabbing a lotto opportunity and taking it and to both TorroRosso drivers who entertained with passion.

beers,

[News]

Extra vigor may be a nod and payback to team for having his contract
renewed for 2013.

[Zeppo Marx]

On 14.10.12 13:45, News wrote:
> Extra vigor may be a nod and payback to team for having his contract
> renewed for 2013.

I dunno but I kinda feel there is a repeating pattern year over year. In
the first half of the season Felipe is not fulfilling the expectations,
everyone starts discussing who will replace him, warning comes from the
Ferrari top and then - allofasuden - Felipe ups his game and gets his
contract for another year. Or, since I have no statistics to look at,
is it just my wrong impression?

[News]

Or is it that Fred carries the team through first 3/4 of season,
whereupon Felipe awakes from his nap and starts to cover his winded
teammate?

[Bigbird]

Alonso is underperforming?

[AC]

Perhaps all the development parts got to Alonso, and Massa kind of gets
to catch up as the development settles down over the season.

--
AC

[News]

Every competitor has his instant limits, not to mention he changed chassis.
Both are reversible,

"It ain't over 'til it's over."
- Yogi Berra

[News]

Or stagnates...

[Noj]

Zeppo Marx wrote ...

Contract time - same for footballers too.

[Brian Lawrence]

Here's the scoring for Felipe and his Ferrari team-mates since he joined
in 2006. Apologies for word wrap - save it to a file and reformat.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
2006 BRN MAS AUS RSM Eur ESP MON GBR CDN USA FRA GER HUN
TUR ITA CHN JPN BRA
==================================================================================================
121 M Schumacher 8 3 - 10 10 8 4 8 8 10 10 10 1
6 10 10 - 5
80 F Massa - 4 - 5 6 5 - 4 4 8 6 8 2
10 - - 8 10

2007 AUS MAS BRN ESP MON CDN USA FRA GBR GER HUN TUR ITA
BEL CHN JPN BRA
==================================================================================================
110 K Räikkönen 10 6 6 - 1 4 5 10 10 - 8 8 6
10 6 10 10
94 F Massa 3 4 10 10 6 - 6 8 4 8 - 10 -
8 3 6 8

2008 AUS MAS BRN ESP TUR MON CDN FRA GBR GER HUN EUR BEL
ITA SIN JPN CHN BRA
==================================================================================================
97 F Massa - - 10 8 10 6 4 10 - 6 - 10 10
3 - 2 8 10
75 K Räikkönen 1 10 8 10 6 - - 8 5 3 6 - -
- - 6 6 6

2009 AUS MAS CHN BRN ESP MON TUR GBR GER HUN EUR BEL ITA
SIN JPN BRA ABD
==================================================================================================
48 K Räikkönen - - - 3 - 6 - 1 - 8 6 10 6
- 5 3 -
22 F Massa - - - - 3 5 3 5 6 . . . .
. . . .

2010 BRN AUS MAS CHN ESP MON TUR CDN EUR GBR GER HUN BEL
ITA SIN JPN KOR BRA ABD
==================================================================================================
252 F Alonso 25 12 - 12 18 8 4 15 4 - 25 18 -
25 25 15 25 15 6
144 F Massa 18 15 6 2 8 12 6 - - - 18 12 12
15 4 - 15 - 1

2011 AUS MAS CHN TUR ESP MON CDN EUR GBR GER HUN BEL ITA
SIN JPN KOR IND ABD BRA
==================================================================================================
257 F Alonso 12 8 6 15 10 18 - 18 25 18 15 12 15
12 18 10 15 18 12
118 F Massa 6 10 8 - - - 8 10 10 10 8 4 8
2 6 8 - 10 10

2012 AUS MAS CHN BHN ESP MON CDN EUR GBR GER HUN BEL ITA
SIN JPN KOR IND ABD USA BRA
==================================================================================================
209 F Alonso 10 25 2 6 18 15 10 25 18 25 10 - 15
15 - 15
81 F Massa - - - 2 - 8 1 - 12 - 2 10 12
4 18 12


--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage
Oxfordshire

[Bigbird]

"instant limits"?

[News]

Figure it out.

[Bigbird]

No thanks. If you can't say what you mean it ain't worth figuring.

Clearly an attempt to backpedal.

[News]

Hardly. As you sit dead in the water.

[Bigbird]

Shh...

You're dissembling is showing.

[News]

You wear clueless well.

[John Briggs]

Gary Anderson said yesterday that HRT haven't had *any* development over
the season - and they are the same distance behind the front-runners as
they were at the start of the season. They have just concentrated on
getting more out of the car as it is. Development clearly hasn't
benefitted the top teams - McLaren in particular have gone backwards.
And Ferrari clearly aren't doing too well.
--
John Briggs

[Bigbird]

News wrote:

>
> You wear clueless well.

<sigh>

You have no answers, no explanations.

You own your failure like a silent fart.

eof

[Bigbird]

John Briggs wrote:

> On 14/10/2012 16:10, News wrote:
> > On 10/14/2012 11:03 AM, AC wrote:
> > > Zeppo Marx wrote:
> > > > On 14.10.12 13:45, News wrote:
> > > > > Extra vigor may be a nod and payback to team for having his
> > > > > contract renewed for 2013.
> > > >
> > > > I dunno but I kinda feel there is a repeating pattern year over
> > > > year. In the first half of the season Felipe is not fulfilling
> > > > the expectations, everyone starts discussing who will replace
> > > > him, warning comes from the Ferrari top and then - allofasuden
> > > > - Felipe ups his game and gets his contract for another year.
> > > > Or, since I have no statistics to look at, is it just my wrong
> > > > impression?
> > >
> > > Perhaps all the development parts got to Alonso, and Massa kind
> > > of gets to catch up as the development settles down over the
> > > season.
> >
> > Or stagnates...
>

> Gary Anderson said yesterday that HRT haven't had any development

> over the season - and they are the same distance behind the
> front-runners as they were at the start of the season. They have just
> concentrated on getting more out of the car as it is. Development
> clearly hasn't benefitted the top teams - McLaren in particular have
> gone backwards. And Ferrari clearly aren't doing too well.

A more intelligent way to think of it might be that HRT were
particularly poor at getting the potential performance out of their car.

[John Briggs]

I suggest that you take this up with Gary Anderson rather than with me.
He said, "Sometimes it is better to get 100% out of a 90% car, rather
than 90% out of a 100% car."
--
John Briggs

[Bigbird]

Why? My point stands whether they are your words or his.

> He said, "Sometimes it is better to get 100% out of a 90% car,
> rather than 90% out of a 100% car."

I can see his point.

[Ian Dalziel]

On 14 Oct 2012 17:16:38 GMT, "Bigbird"

You're?

--

Ian D

[John Briggs]

Hypercorrection.
--
John Briggs

[Bigbird]

News wrote:

> On 10/14/2012 10:30 AM, Bigbird wrote:
> > News wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/14/2012 9:23 AM, Zeppo Marx wrote:
> > > > On 14.10.12 13:45, News wrote:
> > > > > Extra vigor may be a nod and payback to team for having his
> > > > > contract renewed for 2013.
> > > >
> > > > I dunno but I kinda feel there is a repeating pattern year over
> > > > year. In the first half of the season Felipe is not fulfilling
> > > > the expectations, everyone starts discussing who will replace
> > > > him, warning comes from the Ferrari top and then - allofasuden
> > > > - Felipe ups his game and gets his contract for another year.
> > > > Or, since I have no statistics to look at, is it just my wrong
> > > > impression?
> > >
> > >
> > > Or is it that Fred carries the team through first 3/4 of season,
> > > whereupon Felipe awakes from his nap and starts to cover his
> > > winded teammate?
> >
> > Alonso is underperforming?
> >
>
>

> ...not to mention he changed
> chassis.

...because it's irrelevant?

[build]

I was sent a clip of Hamilton on Vergne and he (Vergne) deserves a mention if only for defending very fairly but very well and successfully against a master.

beers,