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Stirling Moss' opinion on Hamilton's move & MSC retirement
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Brian Lawrence
Oct 7, 2012, 6:37:47 AM10/7/12
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Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don�t think it was too
clever to leave McLaren but we�ll see.�
On Michael's retirement, "�I�m not Michael�s greatest fan. I just don�t
think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
without any problem. Michael couldn�t. He was bloody good, no doubt
about it, but he wasn�t great."
�Was he good for the sport? With one hat on I would say yes. He brought
Ferrari back to the forefront and provided a lot of publicity. But with
my other hat on I would say he was certainly a tainted champion.�
Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
would have �done things differently�, Moss said: �That just proves he�s
not a bloody fool. He is thinking of his reputation.�
"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/9591728/Japanese-Grand-Prix-2012-Lewis-Hamiltons-move-to-Mercedes-not-too-clever-says-Stirling-Moss.html"
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Brian W Lawrence
Wantage
Oxfordshire
On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don�t think it was too
clever to leave McLaren but we�ll see.�
On Michael's retirement, "�I�m not Michael�s greatest fan. I just don�t
think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
without any problem. Michael couldn�t. He was bloody good, no doubt
about it, but he wasn�t great."
�Was he good for the sport? With one hat on I would say yes. He brought
Ferrari back to the forefront and provided a lot of publicity. But with
my other hat on I would say he was certainly a tainted champion.�
Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
would have �done things differently�, Moss said: �That just proves he�s
not a bloody fool. He is thinking of his reputation.�
"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/9591728/Japanese-Grand-Prix-2012-Lewis-Hamiltons-move-to-Mercedes-not-too-clever-says-Stirling-Moss.html"
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Brian W Lawrence
Wantage
Oxfordshire
Bobster
Oct 7, 2012, 6:52:25 AM10/7/12
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On 7 Oct, 12:37, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>
> On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don’t think it was too
> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>
> clever to leave McLaren but we’ll see.”
>
> On Michael's retirement, "“I’m not Michael’s greatest fan. I just don’t
> think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
> without any problem. Michael couldn’t. He was bloody good, no doubt
> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
> about it, but he wasn’t great."
That's a bit harsh. Even Moss must understand that
a) cars are a lot faster now than they were when he was in his pomp
b) ability does decline with age
Brian Lawrence
Oct 7, 2012, 7:03:25 AM10/7/12
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On 07/10/2012 11:52, Bobster wrote:
> On 7 Oct, 12:37, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>>
> On 7 Oct, 12:37, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>>
>> On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don�t think it was too
>> clever to leave McLaren but we�ll see.�
>>
>> On Michael's retirement, "�I�m not Michael�s greatest fan. I just don�t
>> clever to leave McLaren but we�ll see.�
>>
>> think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
>> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
>> without any problem. Michael couldn�t. He was bloody good, no doubt
>> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
>> about it, but he wasn�t great."
>
> That's a bit harsh. Even Moss must understand that
> a) cars are a lot faster now than they were when he was in his pomp
> b) ability does decline with age
He also said that MS should not have returned in the first place.
> That's a bit harsh. Even Moss must understand that
> a) cars are a lot faster now than they were when he was in his pomp
> b) ability does decline with age
Both a) & b) seem to be good reasons why it was not a good idea.
AC
Oct 7, 2012, 12:23:20 PM10/7/12
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Brian Lawrence wrote:
> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>
> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>
> On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don’t think it was too
> clever to leave McLaren but we’ll see.”
>
> On Michael's retirement, "“I’m not Michael’s greatest fan. I just don’t
> clever to leave McLaren but we’ll see.”
>
> think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
> without any problem. Michael couldn’t. He was bloody good, no doubt
> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
> about it, but he wasn’t great."
>
> “Was he good for the sport? With one hat on I would say yes. He brought
> Ferrari back to the forefront and provided a lot of publicity. But with
> my other hat on I would say he was certainly a tainted champion.”
>
> Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
> would have “done things differently”, Moss said: “That just proves he’s
> Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
> not a bloody fool. He is thinking of his reputation.”
>
>
> "http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/9591728/Japanese-Grand-Prix-2012-Lewis-Hamiltons-move-to-Mercedes-not-too-clever-says-Stirling-Moss.html"
>
>
Moss is a sad, bitter and twisted waste of time. All he ever does is
slag off current drivers, teams, circuits, in fact any thing F1. Nothing
he says is worth listening to. He is either bitching or saying stuff
every one already knows. Sooner he's back sucking on mints, the better.
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AC
Bobster
Oct 7, 2012, 3:07:02 PM10/7/12
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On 7 Oct, 13:03, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
> On 07/10/2012 11:52, Bobster wrote:
>
> > On 7 Oct, 12:37, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>
> On 07/10/2012 11:52, Bobster wrote:
>
> > On 7 Oct, 12:37, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>
> >> On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don’t think it was too
> >> clever to leave McLaren but we’ll see.”
>
> >> On Michael's retirement, "“I’m not Michael’s greatest fan. I just don’t
> >> clever to leave McLaren but we’ll see.”
>
> >> think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
> >> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
> >> without any problem. Michael couldn’t. He was bloody good, no doubt
> >> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
> >> about it, but he wasn’t great."
>
> > That's a bit harsh. Even Moss must understand that
> > a) cars are a lot faster now than they were when he was in his pomp
> > b) ability does decline with age
>
> He also said that MS should not have returned in the first place.
Did he say that three years ago, or round about now when it was
> > That's a bit harsh. Even Moss must understand that
> > a) cars are a lot faster now than they were when he was in his pomp
> > b) ability does decline with age
>
> He also said that MS should not have returned in the first place.
blindingly obvious that Schumacher's come back was a flop?
> Both a) & b) seem to be good reasons why it was not a good idea.
saying "If Schumacher is so good then why hasn't he seen Rosberg off?"
kung fu
Oct 7, 2012, 5:25:49 PM10/7/12
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On 7 oct, 08:37, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>
> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>
> On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don’t think it was too
> clever to leave McLaren but we’ll see.”
>
> On Michael's retirement, "“I’m not Michael’s greatest fan. I just don’t
> clever to leave McLaren but we’ll see.”
>
> think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
> without any problem. Michael couldn’t. He was bloody good, no doubt
> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
> about it, but he wasn’t great."
>
> “Was he good for the sport? With one hat on I would say yes. He brought
> Ferrari back to the forefront and provided a lot of publicity. But with
> my other hat on I would say he was certainly a tainted champion.”
>
> Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
> would have “done things differently”, Moss said: “That just proves he’s
> Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
> not a bloody fool. He is thinking of his reputation.”
>
> "http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/..."
>
> --
>
> Brian W Lawrence
> Wantage
> Oxfordshire
Hamilton leaving Macca is a huge mistake.
> --
>
> Brian W Lawrence
> Wantage
> Oxfordshire
kung fu
Oct 7, 2012, 5:28:52 PM10/7/12
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time. Can't understand why his entourage didn't tell him that. What
was he thinking? He couldn't win the WDC at 36/37, he certainly was
not going to do it once he was over 40! Dumb decision.
AC
Oct 7, 2012, 5:49:45 PM10/7/12
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kung fu wrote:
> On 7 oct, 08:37, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>>
> On 7 oct, 08:37, Brian Lawrence <Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>>
>> On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don�t think it was too
>> clever to leave McLaren but we�ll see.�
>>
>> On Michael's retirement, "�I�m not Michael�s greatest fan. I just don�t
>> clever to leave McLaren but we�ll see.�
>>
>> think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
>> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
>> without any problem. Michael couldn�t. He was bloody good, no doubt
>> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
>> about it, but he wasn�t great."
>>
>> �Was he good for the sport? With one hat on I would say yes. He brought
>> Ferrari back to the forefront and provided a lot of publicity. But with
>> my other hat on I would say he was certainly a tainted champion.�
>>
>> Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
>> would have �done things differently�, Moss said: �That just proves he�s
>> Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
>> not a bloody fool. He is thinking of his reputation.�
>>
>> "http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/..."
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian W Lawrence
>> Wantage
>> Oxfordshire
>
> Hamilton leaving Macca is a huge mistake.
>
Oh fuck! Really? Quick, call Lewis up and let him know, there might
>> "http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/..."
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian W Lawrence
>> Wantage
>> Oxfordshire
>
> Hamilton leaving Macca is a huge mistake.
>
still be time.
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AC
Bobster
Oct 8, 2012, 2:05:57 AM10/8/12
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On 7 Oct, 23:28, kung fu <kungfu1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Schumacher coming back was a huge blunder. Ruined his reputation big
> time. Can't understand why his entourage didn't tell him that. What
> was he thinking? He couldn't win the WDC at 36/37, he certainly was
> not going to do it once he was over 40! Dumb decision.
Well it's easy to judge his comeback now it's pretty much over. If
> Schumacher coming back was a huge blunder. Ruined his reputation big
> time. Can't understand why his entourage didn't tell him that. What
> was he thinking? He couldn't win the WDC at 36/37, he certainly was
> not going to do it once he was over 40! Dumb decision.
he'd come back and started winning we'd all be calling him a genius
and his comeback a master stroke and all top drivers would be wanting
a three year sabbatical in their contracts.
Going out whilst you're still good enough to compete at the top is
something that not many sportspersons get right.
At least Schumacher is a has-been. That's better than being a never-
was.
John Briggs
Oct 8, 2012, 10:57:28 AM10/8/12
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On 07/10/2012 22:25, kung fu wrote:
> On 7 oct, 08:37, Brian Lawrence<Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>>
> On 7 oct, 08:37, Brian Lawrence<Brian_W_Lawre...@msn.com> wrote:
>> Sir Stirling was asked about recent F1 events by the Daily Telegraph.
>>
>> On Hamilton's move to Mercedes, "Personally I don�t think it was too
>> clever to leave McLaren but we�ll see.�
>>
>> On Michael's retirement, "�I�m not Michael�s greatest fan. I just don�t
>> clever to leave McLaren but we�ll see.�
>>
>> think he was such a great driver. A great driver, someone who won seven
>> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
>> without any problem. Michael couldn�t. He was bloody good, no doubt
>> world titles, would have been able to see off a driver like Rosberg
>> about it, but he wasn�t great."
>>
>> �Was he good for the sport? With one hat on I would say yes. He brought
>> Ferrari back to the forefront and provided a lot of publicity. But with
>> my other hat on I would say he was certainly a tainted champion.�
>>
>> Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
>> would have �done things differently�, Moss said: �That just proves he�s
>> Told that Schumacher said this week that if he had had his time again he
>> not a bloody fool. He is thinking of his reputation.�
>>
>> "http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/..."
>
> Hamilton leaving Macca is a huge mistake.
Maybe - but it was his only option to change things. It may give McLaren
> Hamilton leaving Macca is a huge mistake.
the kick they need, for a start.
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John Briggs
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