Where are these former r.a.s.f1 posters?

[Ed Gonzales]

David Cunliffe
Emma
Paul Brewer
Mark J. Frusciante
Barry Posner
James Connor
Hot Pants

Are they inactive?


F1 has never been more close fought and exciting to watch than this recent DRS and reintroduction of race distance fuel. Instead of one or two contenders dicing for the win, there's a traffic jam.

[Mike P]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:40:15 -0700, Ed Gonzales wrote:

> David Cunliffe
> Emma
> Paul Brewer
> Mark J. Frusciante
> Barry Posner
> James Connor
> Hot Pants
>
> Are they inactive?

They're probably bored of the false racing brought on by DRS and shit
tyre specifications, as am I. I didn't even watch Bahrain live, despite
having Sky. I "watched" the BBC highlights, although "watched" might be
too strong a word for it.


--
Mike P

[Sir Tim]

Ed Gonzales <eduardogo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> David Cunliffe
> Emma
> Paul Brewer
> Mark J. Frusciante
> Barry Posner
> James Connor
> Hot Pants
>
> Are they inactive?

Who knows? Certainly all the above are long gone - some are missed others
(MJF?) perhaps less so. Some may have changed nym, lost interest or moved
to other forums but i think the big reduction in the number of posters here
is mainly due to a general decline in Usenet. Upside is it is now easily
possible to read all posts every day.

> F1 has never been more close fought and exciting to watch than this
> recent DRS and reintroduction of race distance fuel. Instead of one or
> two contenders dicing for the win, there's a traffic jam.

Not everyone here would agree with you.This group tends to attract the more
knowledgable type of fan, many of whom feel that DRS and other innovations
bring an unwelcome artificiality to the sport. Not saying that I agree :-)

--
Henry Birkin, Bt.

[AC]

Ed Gonzales wrote:
> David Cunliffe
> Emma
> Paul Brewer
> Mark J. Frusciante
> Barry Posner
> James Connor
> Hot Pants
>
> Are they inactive?
>

Im sure some went off to a facebook group, for some reason I'll never
understand. I think they wanted a much more controlled group.

I could be unkind and suggest those who did go facebook lost their
bottle on usenet!!!

>
> F1 has never been more close fought

Sort of.

> and exciting

I'd say spectacular

> to watch than this recent
> DRS

Evil fakery

> and reintroduction of race distance fuel.

Not really thought about that part much. Its not rally had the effect I
expected or wanted it to have. I was hoping for differenced through the
race as cars shed the fuel weight.

> Instead of one or two
> contenders dicing for the win, there's a traffic jam.
>

Well, no. DRS has killed traffic jams, or was that your point?

Personally, I would say F1 is more spectacular and visually appealing,
but the racing has lost its depth. Half the time, call me a senile old
40yo, there is so much going on I lose the threads and end up just
watching rather than thinking through various tactics, or something like
that.

To be fair though its better than the dominant MS years, which I think
is what the sport was trying to avoid. But while they were doing that we
did have some decent seasons, and the changes have gone a bit too far.

--
AC

[Brian Lawrence]

On 25/04/2013 00:40, Ed Gonzales wrote:

> Instead of one or two contenders dicing for the win, there's a traffic jam.

I was curious about the number of different winners recently. Taking the
last five seasons plus the four races this year there have been 97
GPs.

2008 09 10 11 12 13
=======================================
Vettel 28 1 4 5 11 5 2
Hamilton 17 5 2 3 3 4 -
Button 14 - 6 2 3 3 -
Alonso 12 2 - 5 1 3 1
Webber 9 - 2 4 1 2 -
Massa 6 6 - - - - -
R�ikk�nen 5 2 1 - - 1 1
Barrichello 2 - 2 - - - -

And one win each for Kubica (2008), Kovalainen (2008), Rosberg &
Maldonado (2012).

--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage
Oxfordshire

[Noj]

Brian Lawrence wrote ...

>
> On 25/04/2013 00:40, Ed Gonzales wrote:
>
> > Instead of one or two contenders dicing for the win, there's a traffic jam.
>
> I was curious about the number of different winners recently. Taking the
> last five seasons plus the four races this year there have been 97
> GPs.
>
> 2008 09 10 11 12 13
> =======================================
> Vettel 28 1 4 5 11 5 2
> Hamilton 17 5 2 3 3 4 -
> Button 14 - 6 2 3 3 -
> Alonso 12 2 - 5 1 3 1
> Webber 9 - 2 4 1 2 -
> Massa 6 6 - - - - -

> Rï¿œikkï¿œnen 5 2 1 - - 1 1

> Barrichello 2 - 2 - - - -
>
> And one win each for Kubica (2008), Kovalainen (2008), Rosberg &
> Maldonado (2012).

LH - 17 wins. Fred - 12. Interesting stat.

[AC]

Only if you start at 2008. Than add in Freds punishment years at
Renault. So, even though I'd love to see Lewis out stat Fred, I reckon
it fails.

I suppose it would be better to see how well both did in their first X
number of seasons. If you take both's first 6 seasons, I don't it
compares so favourably for Lewis.

Assuming any of that has any real relevance since that car and team are
king.

--
AC

[Alessandro D. Petaccia]

On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:22:05 +0100, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:

>Ed Gonzales wrote:
>> David Cunliffe
>> Emma
>> Paul Brewer
>> Mark J. Frusciante
>> Barry Posner
>> James Connor
>> Hot Pants
>>
>> Are they inactive?
>>
>
>Im sure some went off to a facebook group,

So they did, plus others - including Yours Truly.

>for some reason I'll never understand. I think they wanted a much more controlled group.

Far as I'm concerned it's not a matter of having a more controlled
environment or anything, but just a case of using bloody Facebook far
more than the Usenet these days, for the simple reason that there's
more life there. Sad, I know; but still. Speaking of which, you're not
on FB, are you, AC?

...Nah, didn't think so :P

ADP.

[Noj]

AC wrote ...

>
> Noj wrote:
> > Brian Lawrence wrote ...
> >
> >>
> >> On 25/04/2013 00:40, Ed Gonzales wrote:
> >>
> >>> Instead of one or two contenders dicing for the win, there's a traffic jam.
> >>
> >> I was curious about the number of different winners recently. Taking the
> >> last five seasons plus the four races this year there have been 97
> >> GPs.
> >>
> >> 2008 09 10 11 12 13
> >> =======================================
> >> Vettel 28 1 4 5 11 5 2
> >> Hamilton 17 5 2 3 3 4 -
> >> Button 14 - 6 2 3 3 -
> >> Alonso 12 2 - 5 1 3 1
> >> Webber 9 - 2 4 1 2 -
> >> Massa 6 6 - - - - -
> >> Rï¿œikkï¿œnen 5 2 1 - - 1 1
> >> Barrichello 2 - 2 - - - -
> >>
> >> And one win each for Kubica (2008), Kovalainen (2008), Rosberg &
> >> Maldonado (2012).
> >
> >
> > LH - 17 wins. Fred - 12. Interesting stat.
> >
>
> Only if you start at 2008. Than add in Freds punishment years at
> Renault. So, even though I'd love to see Lewis out stat Fred, I reckon
> it fails.

Fred has only outscored LH once. When you consider Fred has one illegal
win (Singapore) and a bend over backwards team mate, who's given him at
least 2 other wins. I reckon LH is doing very well in comparison.

>
> I suppose it would be better to see how well both did in their first X
> number of seasons. If you take both's first 6 seasons, I don't it
> compares so favourably for Lewis.
>
> Assuming any of that has any real relevance since that car and team are
> king.

Fred always gets the vote when driver ability is discussed.

[Noj]

Alessandro D. Petaccia wrote ...

You're on all of 'em - Failbook, Google+, MySpace and possibly others.
How many are important to your job?

> ...Nah, didn't think so :P

I'm there, but Failbook has no info on me to sell to it's advertising
partners. I might be on the Interweb, but I'm not giving the leeches my
biog for fuck all, especially when I don't know what they will do with
it.





>
> ADP.

[AC]

Been there done that, didn't suit.

I created my facebook account about 7 or 8 years ago, deleted it about a
year ago.

I realised it was, like F1, nothing more than an advertising vehicle, a
privacy nightmare (facebook own all your data, including personal info
and photographs, and can there for use it to make them money, not me.
Not to mention a profiling tool for the likes of the FBI, and so on...)
and that most people I knew on FB were utter self absorbed "oooh look"
at me knobs, so I deleted the account.

Also, if I interacted with you lot on FB, you would get to know far too
much about me. Don't want that at all.

Overall, FB offered me no value, and just plain pissed me off.

What I didn't do at the time I deleted the account was a huge flouncing
routine, declaring how great life would be with out it, and how cool I
was for not being part of the cyber-herd.

--
AC

[AC]

Yeah, you may well be right. I dunno.

>
>>
>> I suppose it would be better to see how well both did in their first X
>> number of seasons. If you take both's first 6 seasons, I don't it
>> compares so favourably for Lewis.
>>
>> Assuming any of that has any real relevance since that car and team are
>> king.
>
> Fred always gets the vote when driver ability is discussed.
>
>

From who? Fans? Drivers? Teams?

Again, I dont know. I think they are even ish, but Fred has obviously
way more experience. So, while it does annoy me, the word "complete" is
more suited to Fred, for now. Raw ability wise, I reckon they are about
even when at their best. I think he has stepped it up a lot since
joining Ferrari. Maybe Lewis is doing the same, where possible, at Merc.
But it early days for that.. We'll have to wait and see.

--
AC

[Alessandro D. Petaccia]

On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:51:45 +0100, Noj <b...@arse.com> wrote:

>Alessandro D. Petaccia wrote ...

>> Far as I'm concerned it's not a matter of having a more controlled
>> environment or anything, but just a case of using bloody Facebook far
>> more than the Usenet these days, for the simple reason that there's
>> more life there. Sad, I know; but still. Speaking of which, you're not
>> on FB, are you, AC?
>
>You're on all of 'em - Failbook, Google+, MySpace and possibly others.

(Myspace? Really?!) Yeah, and on - like, Anobii (fun, for a while) and
Pinterest (still fun) and the one about the jobs... what's it
called... can't remember, but I believe I'm listed as President and
CEO of SubHuman Accomplishments ltd... and a shitload of others I've
forgotten about. I even have a Twitter account which I've (re)
discovered some weeks ago, when mr. Twitter started sending me worried
e-mails saying I had been hacked (it was true, but my single tweet
from 2005 wasn't particularly bothered).

Thing is, I like the interwebs. I was there when it all started - and
before, on the BBSs - so I guess it just comes natural to try
everything as it springs up. On the other hand, most of these "new"
things seem completely useless to me - when I do actually figure out
what they're for, that is - so I fiddle around a bit and then happily
forget about them.

>How many are important to your job?

What?! None, of course! Job-related stuff is all in them specialized
forums.

>I'm there, but Failbook has no info on me to sell to it's advertising
>partners. I might be on the Interweb, but I'm not giving the leeches my
>biog for fuck all, especially when I don't know what they will do with
>it.

Well yes, but I've stopped worrying about that stuff a while ago. I
don't post personal stuff anyway and frankly, if Amazon wants to snoop
around my Anobii account in order to send me personalized ads, well,
good for them. The delete button is still powerful.

ADP.

[Alessandro D. Petaccia]

On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:23:39 +0100, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:

>Alessandro D. Petaccia wrote:

>>Speaking of which, you're not
>> on FB, are you, AC?
>

>I realised it was, like F1, nothing more than an advertising vehicle, a
>privacy nightmare (facebook own all your data, including personal info
>and photographs, and can there for use it to make them money, not me.
>Not to mention a profiling tool for the likes of the FBI, and so on...)

Yah. Don't care.

>and that most people I knew on FB were utter self absorbed "oooh look"
>at me knobs, so I deleted the account.

This is fascinatingly true. I change my FB status perhaps once every
three weeks, purely out of shame for being such a lazy,
anti-social-media twerp, but I always marvel at those people who
apparently do nothing but inform everyone else about their whereabouts
and habits, and post a new photo every few minutes. Where do they find
the time - not to mention the energy - for such a ponderous exercise
in futility is beyond me. But then, you know - damn youngsters and all
that.

>Also, if I interacted with you lot on FB, you would get to know far too
>much about me. Don't want that at all.

That did make me laugh out loud.

>What I didn't do at the time I deleted the account was a huge flouncing

>routine...

You know, just recently a friend of mine decided to re-create the
account he'd deleted a good two years back and when he did he
discovered, much to his horror, that everything was still there. It
was like he'd never deleted it, but rather took a 2-years break from
the bloody thing - so there's a good chance your FB ghost is still
around too, blindly wandering through the Data Void... Dun dun dun DUN
DUNN!

ADP.

[AC]

Alessandro D. Petaccia wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:23:39 +0100, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Alessandro D. Petaccia wrote:
>
>>> Speaking of which, you're not
>>> on FB, are you, AC?
>>
>> I realised it was, like F1, nothing more than an advertising vehicle, a
>> privacy nightmare (facebook own all your data, including personal info
>> and photographs, and can there for use it to make them money, not me.
>> Not to mention a profiling tool for the likes of the FBI, and so on...)
>
> Yah. Don't care.

Until it hits you, sure. Neither did I.

>
>> and that most people I knew on FB were utter self absorbed "oooh look"
>> at me knobs, so I deleted the account.
>
> This is fascinatingly true. I change my FB status perhaps once every
> three weeks, purely out of shame for being such a lazy,
> anti-social-media twerp, but I always marvel at those people who
> apparently do nothing but inform everyone else about their whereabouts
> and habits, and post a new photo every few minutes. Where do they find
> the time - not to mention the energy - for such a ponderous exercise
> in futility is beyond me. But then, you know - damn youngsters and all
> that.

Oh no, its not the youngsters (I have many kids) that I ever had a
problem with. Their motives seems "pure", it was the sort of competing
adults and parents thing.

>
>> Also, if I interacted with you lot on FB, you would get to know far too
>> much about me. Don't want that at all.
>
> That did make me laugh out loud.

Well, really? I mean, isnt it better that we cant make assumptions and
what not about each other? It means we, we at least I, are more likely
to deal with the point than the person making it.

>
>> What I didn't do at the time I deleted the account was a huge flouncing
>> routine...
>
> You know, just recently a friend of mine decided to re-create the
> account he'd deleted a good two years back and when he did he
> discovered, much to his horror, that everything was still there. It
> was like he'd never deleted it, but rather took a 2-years break from
> the bloody thing - so there's a good chance your FB ghost is still
> around too, blindly wandering through the Data Void... Dun dun dun DUN
> DUNN!

Indeed. How ever, I believed there was supposed to be a limit on it. I
know you get something like a 14 day are you sure thing, and I do know
they keep your data, which is one of the reasons I quit, but 2 years?
That worries me eve more.

>
> ADP.
>


--
AC

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Alessandro D. Petaccia wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:23:39 +0100, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:

[snips]

>> What I didn't do at the time I deleted the account was a huge
>> flouncing routine...
>
> You know, just recently a friend of mine decided to re-create the
> account he'd deleted a good two years back and when he did he
> discovered, much to his horror, that everything was still there. It
> was like he'd never deleted it, but rather took a 2-years break from
> the bloody thing - so there's a good chance your FB ghost is still
> around too, blindly wandering through the Data Void... Dun dun dun DUN
> DUNN!

I am reliably informed that it is imposible to *delete* a Facebook account -
all that you can do is stop using it.

(Clever paranoid people change as much as they can for fiction, 'unfriend'
people and leave groups over a period of time before ceasing to use the
account.)
--
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

[Bobster]

On Apr 26, 2:36 am, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
<snip>

> Indeed. How ever, I believed there was supposed to be a limit on it. I
> know you get something like a 14 day are you sure thing, and I do know
> they keep your data, which is one of the reasons I quit, but 2 years?
> That worries me eve more.

Well I was off FB for .... less than 2 years but significantly longer
than 14 days and when I eventually gave in I found that everything was
still there, just as I left it. Obviously my friends couldn't see all
the stuff, but FB could still sift through it or whatever it is they
do.

There's lots of free stuff on the internet. You got to ask yourself
what the catch is because it always costs somebody somewhere money to
keep these things going and there has to be something in it for them.

Maybe the old model of doing things was actually better from the POV
of paying, getting something in return and limits being carefully
defined: You paid some ISP and they gave you access to their mail
server, their NNTP server etc etc.

But, like Thatcherism, the genie is now well and truly out of the
bottle and those days ain't coming back. The game has changed, and we
all have to play as best we can to the new rules.

[Bigbird]

Ed Gonzales wrote:

> David Cunliffe
> Emma
> Paul Brewer
> Mark J. Frusciante
> Barry Posner
> James Connor
> Hot Pants
>
> Are they inactive?
>

Several can be found on the Facebook group.

Having seen the pictures I'd say several are very inactive.

[Alessandro D. Petaccia]

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 01:36:51 +0100, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:

>Alessandro D. Petaccia wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:23:39 +0100, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Alessandro D. Petaccia wrote:
>>
>>>> Speaking of which, you're not
>>>> on FB, are you, AC?
>>>
>>> I realised it was, like F1, nothing more than an advertising vehicle, a
>>> privacy nightmare (facebook own all your data, including personal info
>>> and photographs, and can there for use it to make them money, not me.
>>> Not to mention a profiling tool for the likes of the FBI, and so on...)
>>
>> Yah. Don't care.
>
>Until it hits you, sure. Neither did I.

Well - unless the FBI comes a-knocking or something, the fact that
Facebook makes money thanks to my data doesn't particularly bother me.
Course if they used my profile picture for an ad for some laxative it
would be rather different, but what are the chances?

>>> Also, if I interacted with you lot on FB, you would get to know far too
>>> much about me. Don't want that at all.
>>
>> That did make me laugh out loud.
>
>Well, really? I mean, isnt it better that we cant make assumptions and
>what not about each other? It means we, we at least I, are more likely
>to deal with the point than the person making it.

Old argument, only partly valid IMO; I've been reading you and other
fellows for quite some time now and I have - as, I believe, anyone
would - formed a certain set of assumptions about the Men Behind the
Keyboards. Seeing your ug- I mean - your intelligence-radiating face
and knowing that last night you were at some Club I've never heard
about wouldn't change a thing, really. My reaction is usually along
the lines of "Oh, so this is Paul B and here's Frank and that's Ric,
cool, they're human" and that's that... Although I must admit Ric does
look rather handsome and with a full head of hair to boot, the lucky
sod.

...But I suddenly realize it might sound like I'm trying to convince
you of something - this is not the case, I do see your point and it's
a perfectly valid one; all I'm saying is, the whole Social Media thing
doesn't necessarily have to have such a huge impact on one's life.

ADP.

[Mike Fleming]

In article <ct7jn8l6cnlof7g0q...@4ax.com>, Alessandro D.

Petaccia <ale...@despammed.com> writes:

> This is fascinatingly true. I change my FB status perhaps once every
> three weeks, purely out of shame for being such a lazy,
> anti-social-media twerp, but I always marvel at those people who
> apparently do nothing but inform everyone else about their whereabouts
> and habits, and post a new photo every few minutes. Where do they find
> the time - not to mention the energy - for such a ponderous exercise
> in futility is beyond me. But then, you know - damn youngsters and all
> that.

If our guitarist (just over a half century old) spent as much time
practising as he does on Facebook posting links to videos of bands on
Youtube, he'd be a six-string god.

--
Mike Fleming

[AC]

Yeah, not imagine how might time might be wasted in the work place.

--
AC

[AC]

The game hasn't changed, it just become more aggressive.

--
AC

[AC]

Well, now is has no impact on my life. Ditching it was and remains
positive for me.

--
AC

[Sir Tim]

Alessandro D. Petaccia <ale...@despammed.com> wrote:

> Old argument, only partly valid IMO; I've been reading you and other
> fellows for quite some time now and I have - as, I believe, anyone
> would - formed a certain set of assumptions about the Men Behind the
> Keyboards.

Me too. I've formed a very definite opinion of what some of the regular
posters are like.

Seeing your ug- I mean - your intelligence-radiating face
> and knowing that last night you were at some Club I've never heard
> about wouldn't change a thing, really. My reaction is usually along
> the lines of "Oh, so this is Paul B and here's Frank and that's Ric,
> cool, they're human" and that's that... Although I must admit Ric does
> look rather handsome and with a full head of hair to boot, the lucky
> sod.

Mmm... now you are tempting me. I admit that I *would* like to know what
those guys look like and I *would* like to hear from them again (also Emma
and Doc Knutson) but not enough to persuade me to have anything to do with
FB I fear.

--
Henry Birkin, Bt.

[Bobster]

You mean it got DRS and tyres with thermal degradation?

[Mark Jackson]

DRS for the owners, tires with thermal degradation for the workers.

--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
Some day, historians are going to look back on the 2012
Republican presidential campaign and think that we made it all up.
- Charles P. Pierce

[AC]

Mark Jackson wrote:
> On 4/26/2013 4:39 PM, Bobster wrote:
>> On Apr 26, 9:15 pm, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> Bobster wrote:
>
>>>> But, like Thatcherism, the genie is now well and truly out of the
>>>> bottle and those days ain't coming back. The game has changed, and we
>>>> all have to play as best we can to the new rules.
>>>
>>> The game hasn't changed, it just become more aggressive.
>>
>> You mean it got DRS and tyres with thermal degradation?
>
> DRS for the owners, tires with thermal degradation for the workers.
>

Yeah, that works.

--
AC

[Bigbird]

I don't do facebook (I probably should have one for work, in fact I
have the account, but don't want to commit the time to keep it updated.
My fans will have to wait). Having said that I do have several little
used accounts. (1 personal, 1 for work, 1 for rasf1, 1 for promos, 1 an
infamous spoof...).

AS far as razzers refuge is concerned I did find it helpful to put a
face to the name...especially to some (other) keyboard warriors that I
used to get into silly spats with. I almost started to treat some of
them as humans. On the other hand it' can be fun to draw your own
pictures.

Don't even try to tell me this isn't you http://tinyurl.com/cl2xe4q

[Noj]

Bigbird wrote ...

That's our famous canoe captain.

Last time I looked at razzers refuge, it was tumbleweed central. Looked
today and it's fairly busy, with at least 4 previous posters and a
couple who flit between here and there. Can't say it looked very
interesting.

Your spoof isn't up to a lot. Looks like it died that same day as the
NotW.

[Bigbird]

My spoof was hugely popular and fooled a few of the spoofee's personal
friends. Of course I had to turn his son away when he wanted to be
friends. I more or less abandonned it when he was no longer in the
limelight.

[Noj]

Bigbird wrote ...

>
> My spoof was hugely popular and fooled a few of the spoofee's personal
> friends. Of course I had to turn his son away when he wanted to be
> friends. I more or less abandonned it when he was no longer in the
> limelight.

Did you get invited to any jackboot parties ?

[Bigbird]

Too many to mention...but they were not the interesting messages.

[Noj]

Bigbird wrote ...

Let's have them. No need to tell who from, but...

[Sir Tim]

On 27/04/2013 10:35, Bigbird wrote:

> AS far as razzers refuge is concerned I did find it helpful to put a
> face to the name...especially to some (other) keyboard warriors that I
> used to get into silly spats with. I almost started to treat some of
> them as humans. On the other hand it' can be fun to draw your own
> pictures.

My grand-daughter came to see me over the weekend. As she is on Facebook
(of course!) I got her to look up Razzers Refuge for me. Like you I
found it interesting to put faces to names (only Betts looked anything
like I had imagined) but I can't say I was tempted to sign up.

--
Henry Birkin, Bt.

[Ed Gonzales]

On Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:48:56 AM UTC-4, Sir Tim wrote:

> Who knows? Certainly all the above are long gone - some are missed others
>
> (MJF?) perhaps less so. Some may have changed nym, lost interest or moved
>
> to other forums but i think the big reduction in the number of posters here
>
> is mainly due to a general decline in Usenet. Upside is it is now easily
>
> possible to read all posts every day.

I found several former UK rasf1ers on Facebook page Razzers' Refuge.


> Not everyone here would agree with you.This group tends to attract the more
>
> knowledgable type of fan, many of whom feel that DRS and other innovations
>
> bring an unwelcome artificiality to the sport. Not saying that I agree :-)
>

I find that the wing gizmo, full tank procedure and team orders impose the onus of major strategic race planning and real-time tactical coordination on each team, aside from easy, unearned passes at the end of a DRS zone and team mate squabbling.

Even with all the drag reduction business, if the race strategy is poorly chosen, even a top car, the consequence is finishing well back, like Rosberg and Massa. So much as a set of tires fails to work or last and a shot at the podium disappears.


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> Henry Birkin, Bt.

[~misfit~]

Hmmm... I just checked FB (I don't use it much - only joined as family,
mostly in Aus, use it to stay in touch) and see I'm no longer a member of
RR. Emma invited me ages ago and I only checked it out a few times. I don't
remember leaving the group but may have.... Yeah, I think I did - too many
notifications. Oh well, I see it's an 'open' group now anyway - and Emma's
still a 'friend'.

[meda...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:40:15 PM UTC-4, Ed Gonzales wrote:
> David Cunliffe
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> Emma
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> Paul Brewer
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> Mark J. Frusciante

Passed away. Fat embolism.

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> Barry Posner
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> James Connor
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> F1 has never been more close fought and exciting to watch than this recent DRS and reintroduction of race distance fuel. Instead of one or two contenders dicing for the win, there's a traffic jam.