>A little more from Laguna Seca.
>What do you think?
I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible. You're scared of the car. You can't hold a line to save your life. You ran off the road a bunch of times. This looks worse than the first one you posted.
I think it's a joke. Or a troll. Whatever it is, it worked, it's a scream.
Jeez, what a bunch of butcher critics! If FDK had identified himself
as a professional F3 driver, maybe some points could be made. Before I
judge this drive I'd want to know about the driver's racing
experience.
Far better than I would have done. coming at it today as I am.
Personally I'd have lifted just a tad every time I hit the rumbles.
In article <6d5deacd-f79f-483a-965c-e08b54658...@i2g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
brafield <brafi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2:02 pm, "FDK" <f...@aol.com> wrote:
> Jeez, what a bunch of butcher critics! If FDK had identified himself
> as a professional F3 driver, maybe some points could be made. Before I
> judge this drive I'd want to know about the driver's racing
> experience.
> Far better than I would have done. coming at it today as I am.
> Personally I'd have lifted just a tad every time I hit the rumbles.
That's one thing I don't do. There's lots I don't do well yet, but keeping my foot in it even on the rumble strips isn't a problem for me.
:-)
-- "The iPhone doesn't have...
...well, since Edwin seems to have finally crawled away for good, I guess I'll let him off the hook
> I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible. You're scared > of the car. You can't hold a line to save your life. You ran off the > road a bunch of times. This looks worse than the first one you > posted.
> I think it's a joke. Or a troll. Whatever it is, it worked, it's a > scream.
LOL
I'd say an improvement from around 1:52 to around 1:40 would be pretty good, Michael (even if a portion of that could be attributed to using a higher rev limit).
Another course: another course where I was never passed except by the instructors (who you'd have to agree are likely to be pretty good given that they have to be able to run with students of all abilities who might occasionally do the wrong thing at the wrong time).
How much faster do you think you could go, Michael?
-- "The iPhone doesn't have...
...well, since Edwin seems to have finally crawled away for good, I guess I'll let him off the hook
> I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible. You're scared
> of the car. You can't hold a line to save your life. You ran off > the
> road a bunch of times. This looks worse than the first one you
> posted.
> I think it's a joke. Or a troll. Whatever it is, it worked, it's a
> scream.
>LOL
>I'd say an improvement from around 1:52 to around 1:40 would be >pretty
>good, Michael (even if a portion of that could be attributed to using >a
>higher rev limit).
>Another course: another course where I was never passed except by the
>instructors (who you'd have to agree are likely to be pretty good >given
>that they have to be able to run with students of all abilities who
>might occasionally do the wrong thing at the wrong time).
Yeah - you’re a legend.
>How much faster do you think you could go, Michael?
Michael? I thought it was "Edwin" this week.
Hmmmm... "how much"? - how would I know - but faster. What I do know is; the soccer mom down my street could best anything you could do without breathing hard. You are a natural born loser.
> > I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible. You're scared
> > of the car. You can't hold a line to save your life. You ran off > > the
> > road a bunch of times. This looks worse than the first one you
> > posted.
> > I think it's a joke. Or a troll. Whatever it is, it worked, it's a
> > scream.
> >LOL
> >I'd say an improvement from around 1:52 to around 1:40 would be > >pretty
> >good, Michael (even if a portion of that could be attributed to using > >a
> >higher rev limit).
> >Another course: another course where I was never passed except by the
> >instructors (who you'd have to agree are likely to be pretty good > >given
> >that they have to be able to run with students of all abilities who
> >might occasionally do the wrong thing at the wrong time).
> Yeah - you’re a legend.
Nope. Nothing nearly so grandiose. I'm simply reporting the facts.
Just as it's a fact that one of the drivers who couldn't pass me was Bryan Herta's son, who's only been racing for 6 years. He was more comfortable running close up behind the instructor for the passing exercises, I'll give him that!
Just as it's a fact that my two on-track instructors agreed that I could actually have beaten one of the instructors they don't use for on-track work... ...because he's not fast enough.
:-)
> >How much faster do you think you could go, Michael?
> Michael? I thought it was "Edwin" this week.
Nope. I've never claimed you were Edwin, Michael.
> Hmmmm... "how much"? - how would I know - but faster. What I do know > is; the soccer mom down my street could best anything you could do > without breathing hard. You are a natural born loser.
Faster than that?
LOL
Not on your best day.
:-)
-- "The iPhone doesn't have...
...well, since Edwin seems to have finally crawled away for good, I guess I'll let him off the hook
> > I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible. You're > > scared
> > of the car. You can't hold a line to save your life. You ran off
> > the
> > road a bunch of times. This looks worse than the first one you
> > posted.
> > I think it's a joke. Or a troll. Whatever it is, it worked, it's > > a
> > scream.
> >LOL
> >I'd say an improvement from around 1:52 to around 1:40 would be
> >pretty
> >good, Michael (even if a portion of that could be attributed to > >using
> >a
> >higher rev limit).
> >Another course: another course where I was never passed except by > >the
> >instructors (who you'd have to agree are likely to be pretty good
> >given
> >that they have to be able to run with students of all abilities who
> >might occasionally do the wrong thing at the wrong time).
> Yeah - you’re a legend.
>Nope. Nothing nearly so grandiose. I'm simply reporting the facts.
You posted a better time than a pro. HAR, HAR,HAR,HAR,HAR - So you said.
>Just as it's a fact that one of the drivers who couldn't pass me was
>Bryan Herta's son, who's only been racing for 6 years. He was more
>comfortable running close up behind the instructor for the passing
>exercises, I'll give him that!
> Just as it's a fact that my two on-track instructors agreed that I
>could actually have beaten one of the instructors they don't use for
>on-track work... ...
He,he,he,he,he -Yeah - you're great - This is good. HOOT!!!
>because he's not fast enough.
Yeah - your like greased lightning - HOOT!!!! HAR, HAR, HAR - Yer killin me.
>:-)
> >How much faster do you think you could go, Michael?
> Michael? I thought it was "Edwin" this week.
>Nope. I've never claimed you were Edwin, Michael.
BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA.......
> Hmmmm... "how much"? - how would I know - but faster. What I do > know
> is; the soccer mom down my street could best anything you could do
> without breathing hard. You are a natural born loser.
>Faster than that?
I think you're blowing up. MOOHOOHAAHASAHAAARRR - STOP- I'm busting a gut - HAR, HAR, HAR, HAR,HAR.
> Nope. Nothing nearly so grandiose. I'm simply reporting the facts.
> Just as it's a fact that one of the drivers who couldn't pass me was
> Bryan Herta's son, who's only been racing for 6 years. He was more
> comfortable running close up behind the instructor for the passing
> exercises, I'll give him that!
> Just as it's a fact that my two on-track instructors agreed that I
> could actually have beaten one of the instructors they don't use for
> on-track work... ...because he's not fast enough.
> :-)
>> >How much faster do you think you could go, Michael?
>> Michael? I thought it was "Edwin" this week.
> Nope. I've never claimed you were Edwin, Michael.
>> Hmmmm... "how much"? - how would I know - but faster. What I do know
>> is; the soccer mom down my street could best anything you could do
>> without breathing hard. You are a natural born loser.
"FDK" <f...@aol.com> wrote in message...
> "Alan Baker" wrote in message..
> <http://youtu.be/uYT4NWB7Egc>
>>A little more from Laguna Seca.
>>What do you think?
> I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible.
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
"Citizenship in a Republic,"
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
Alan, I think you are a brave man for posting what you have done. Be properly proud of what you have tried, and learned, and accomplished so far.
It certainly appears, that others (including me) are not so brave. Nor are some, very well mannered!
>> > I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible. You're > scared
>> > of the car. You can't hold a line to save your life. You ran off
>> > the
>> > road a bunch of times. This looks worse than the first one you
>> > posted.
>> > I think it's a joke. Or a troll. Whatever it is, it worked, it's > a
>> > scream.
>> >LOL
>> >I'd say an improvement from around 1:52 to around 1:40 would be
>> >pretty
>> >good, Michael (even if a portion of that could be attributed to >using
>> >a
>> >higher rev limit).
>> >Another course: another course where I was never passed except by >the
>> >instructors (who you'd have to agree are likely to be pretty good
>> >given
>> >that they have to be able to run with students of all abilities who
>> >might occasionally do the wrong thing at the wrong time).
>> Yeah - you’re a legend.
>> Nope. Nothing nearly so grandiose. I'm simply reporting the facts.
> You posted a better time than a pro. HAR, HAR,HAR,HAR,HAR - So you said.
>> Just as it's a fact that one of the drivers who couldn't pass me was
>> Bryan Herta's son, who's only been racing for 6 years. He was more
>> comfortable running close up behind the instructor for the passing
>> exercises, I'll give him that!
>> Just as it's a fact that my two on-track instructors agreed that I
>> could actually have beaten one of the instructors they don't use for
>> on-track work... ...
> He,he,he,he,he -Yeah - you're great - This is good. HOOT!!!
>> because he's not fast enough.
> Yeah - your like greased lightning - HOOT!!!! HAR, HAR, HAR - Yer killin
> me.
>> :-)
>> >How much faster do you think you could go, Michael?
>> Michael? I thought it was "Edwin" this week.
>> Nope. I've never claimed you were Edwin, Michael.
> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA.......
>> Hmmmm... "how much"? - how would I know - but faster. What I do know
>> is; the soccer mom down my street could best anything you could do
>> without breathing hard. You are a natural born loser.
>> Faster than that?
> I think you're blowing up. MOOHOOHAAHASAHAAARRR - STOP- I'm busting a
> gut - HAR, HAR, HAR, HAR,HAR.
>> LOL
>> Not on your best day.
> HOOT - MOOHOOHAAHAAHARRRRRR - ROTFLMAO!!!
> Go diddle a kiddy, Perv.
A new low even for this mentally diseased riddled ng?
-- Chris
'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months.'
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012, a425couple wrote:
> Alan, I think you are a brave man for posting what you have done. Be > properly proud of what you have tried, and learned, and accomplished so > far. It certainly appears, that others (including me) are not so brave. > Nor are some, very well mannered!
"a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "FDK" <f...@aol.com> wrote in message...
> > "Alan Baker" wrote in message..
> > <http://youtu.be/uYT4NWB7Egc>
> >>A little more from Laguna Seca.
> >>What do you think?
> > I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible.
> "It is not the critic who counts: > not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles > or where the doer of deeds could have done better. > The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, > whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, > who errs and comes up short again and again, > because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, > but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, > who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, > knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, > at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, > so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls > who knew neither victory nor defeat."
> Theodore Roosevelt
> "Citizenship in a Republic,"
> Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
> Alan, I think you are a brave man for posting what you have done. > Be properly proud of what you have tried, and learned, > and accomplished so far.
> It certainly appears, that others (including me) are not so brave. > Nor are some, very well mannered!
That's alright, Lee.
The joke was on him. The lap he said showed how "horrible" and "scared" I was is that of my instructor, Thomas Merrill: F2000 champion and rookie of the year a few years back, plus 24 Hours of Daytona driver.
I played him like the huge jackass he is.
:-D
I'll post my real videos shortly.
:-)
-- "The iPhone doesn't have...
...well, since Edwin seems to have finally crawled away for good, I guess I'll let him off the hook
> > Nope. Nothing nearly so grandiose. I'm simply reporting the facts.
> > Just as it's a fact that one of the drivers who couldn't pass me was
> > Bryan Herta's son, who's only been racing for 6 years. He was more
> > comfortable running close up behind the instructor for the passing
> > exercises, I'll give him that!
> > Just as it's a fact that my two on-track instructors agreed that I
> > could actually have beaten one of the instructors they don't use for
> > on-track work... ...because he's not fast enough.
> > :-)
> >> >How much faster do you think you could go, Michael?
> >> Michael? I thought it was "Edwin" this week.
> > Nope. I've never claimed you were Edwin, Michael.
> >> Hmmmm... "how much"? - how would I know - but faster. What I do know
> >> is; the soccer mom down my street could best anything you could do
> >> without breathing hard. You are a natural born loser.
In article <k79m5o$s0...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Mower Man <chrislov...@nospamf2s.com> wrote:
> A new low even for this mentally diseased riddled ng?
Sorry for letting Michael Patelmo's disease infect this group, but if I wanted to pull of the joke (the video is not mine, but that of an instructor, and I knew Michael would ridicule it and make himself look like an ass), I had to post it as I'd posted my videos previously.
-- Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
In article <alpine.LRH.0.9999.1211051947310.31...@moose.vgersoft.com>,
Steve Thompson <s...@vgersoft.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2012, a425couple wrote:
> > Alan, I think you are a brave man for posting what you have done. Be > > properly proud of what you have tried, and learned, and accomplished so > > far. It certainly appears, that others (including me) are not so brave. > > Nor are some, very well mannered!
> Amen. Alan has big balls.
> -s
Well, at one point a little too big.
It's not caught on video, but in my very last session, I pushed too hard coming out of turn 4, put two wheels in the dirt, and then spun it into the wall on the inside. A very expensive but ultimately useful lesson.
:-(
-- "The iPhone doesn't have...
...well, since Edwin seems to have finally crawled away for good, I guess I'll let him off the hook
Just looking at the first video, it looked to me like you were having a little bit of trouble judging your steering input for turn-ins. This would make me ask how the car felt to you -- was it well-balanced and neutral, or a tiny bit twitchy with oversteer?
It's great that you're enjoying the open-wheeler. I can tell you, from my limited experience, that going to slicks is a huge step up in both challenge and enjoyment -- something to look forward to.
And for all the critics, success at lower speeds, whether autocross or lower formulas, is never an accurate predictor of success at any faster formula. At some level of time compression, either you have the innate ability, or you don't. Open and shut.
For myself, I ran out of ability (or balls, if you prefer) trying to move up from FF on slicks. But I was older, and I'm glad I had the experience.
> Just looking at the first video, it looked to me like you were having a > little bit of trouble judging your steering input for turn-ins. This > would make me ask how the car felt to you -- was it well-balanced and > neutral, or a tiny bit twitchy with oversteer?
> It's great that you're enjoying the open-wheeler. I can tell you, from > my limited experience, that going to slicks is a huge step up in both > challenge and enjoyment -- something to look forward to.
> And for all the critics, success at lower speeds, whether autocross or > lower formulas, is never an accurate predictor of success at any faster > formula. At some level of time compression, either you have the innate > ability, or you don't. Open and shut.
> For myself, I ran out of ability (or balls, if you prefer) trying to > move up from FF on slicks. But I was older, and I'm glad I had the > experience.
> -- Larry
I think I should let you in on the gag:
I posted that first video of my instructor to allow a couple of trolls the rope to hang themselves (and one in particular didn't disappoint!).
That is Thomas Merrill--F2000 rookie of the year and second in the championship, as well as 24 Hours of Daytona driver, doing a 1:40 on road tires when the best time I could find on slicks was a 1:38. So I think one would expect that he was doing it alright.
But in truth, to me, my car felt very neutral. Certainly, getting the car to rotate on corner entry only required a little bit of trail braking and adding power on exit didn't make it push.
Check out my other thread for my real laps.
:-)
-- Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
"a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "FDK" <f...@aol.com> wrote in message...
> > "Alan Baker" wrote in message..
> > <http://youtu.be/uYT4NWB7Egc>
> >>A little more from Laguna Seca.
> >>What do you think?
> > I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible.
> "It is not the critic who counts:
> not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles
> or where the doer of deeds could have done better.
> The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
> whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives > valiantly,
> who errs and comes up short again and again,
> because there is no effort without error or shortcoming,
> but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions,
> who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best,
> knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who,
> at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly,
> so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls
> who knew neither victory nor defeat."
> Theodore Roosevelt
> "Citizenship in a Republic,"
> Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
> Alan, I think you are a brave man for posting what you have done.
> Be properly proud of what you have tried, and learned,
> and accomplished so far.
> It certainly appears, that others (including me) are not so brave.
> Nor are some, very well mannered!
>That's alright, Lee.
>The joke was on him. The lap he said showed how "horrible" and >"scared"
>I was is that of my instructor, Thomas Merrill: F2000 champion and
>rookie of the year a few years back, plus 24 Hours of Daytona driver.
So we're to take your word for that?
>I played him like the huge jackass he is.
Actually - I simply don't believe you.
>I'll post my real videos shortly.
Yes , you'll post the real videos of Thomas Merrill and claim it's you.
> That is Thomas Merrill--F2000 rookie of the year and second in the > championship, as well as 24 Hours of Daytona driver, doing a 1:40 on > road tires when the best time I could find on slicks was a 1:38. So I > think one would expect that he was doing it alright.
In that case I'll say I'm a little surprised if that is considered a
very good lap.
>> > I laughed. Is this a joke? Man - you are horrible. You're > scared
>> > of the car. You can't hold a line to save your life. You ran off
>> > the
>> > road a bunch of times. This looks worse than the first one you
>> > posted.
>> > I think it's a joke. Or a troll. Whatever it is, it worked, it's > a
>> > scream.
>> >LOL
>> >I'd say an improvement from around 1:52 to around 1:40 would be
>> >pretty
>> >good, Michael (even if a portion of that could be attributed to >using
>> >a
>> >higher rev limit).
>> >Another course: another course where I was never passed except by >the
>> >instructors (who you'd have to agree are likely to be pretty good
>> >given
>> >that they have to be able to run with students of all abilities who
>> >might occasionally do the wrong thing at the wrong time).
>> Yeah - you’re a legend.
>> Nope. Nothing nearly so grandiose. I'm simply reporting the facts.
> You posted a better time than a pro. HAR, HAR,HAR,HAR,HAR - So you said.
>> Just as it's a fact that one of the drivers who couldn't pass me was
>> Bryan Herta's son, who's only been racing for 6 years. He was more
>> comfortable running close up behind the instructor for the passing
>> exercises, I'll give him that!
>> Just as it's a fact that my two on-track instructors agreed that I
>> could actually have beaten one of the instructors they don't use for
>> on-track work... ...
> He,he,he,he,he -Yeah - you're great - This is good. HOOT!!!
>> because he's not fast enough.
> Yeah - your like greased lightning - HOOT!!!! HAR, HAR, HAR - Yer killin
> me.
>> :-)
>> >How much faster do you think you could go, Michael?
>> Michael? I thought it was "Edwin" this week.
>> Nope. I've never claimed you were Edwin, Michael.
> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA.......
>> Hmmmm... "how much"? - how would I know - but faster. What I do know
>> is; the soccer mom down my street could best anything you could do
>> without breathing hard. You are a natural born loser.
>> Faster than that?
> I think you're blowing up. MOOHOOHAAHASAHAAARRR - STOP- I'm busting a
> gut - HAR, HAR, HAR, HAR,HAR.
>> LOL
>> Not on your best day.
> HOOT - MOOHOOHAAHAAHARRRRRR - ROTFLMAO!!!
> Go diddle a kiddy, Perv.
Given your "posts", I guess you are used to being fiddled with. Although, I think even paedophiles have some taste.
