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braf...@hotmail.com

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Sep 7, 2007, 12:30:38 AM9/7/07
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Most posters here are proud of F1's vast and competitive research
activities. Most posters strongly oppose restricting or standardising
designs. The universally accepted paradigm is that The Circus
appropriately employs thousands of eager beaver technical aces in a no-
holds-barred battle for advantage; and that teams spend hundreds of
millions of dollars hunting for 0.5 seconds advantage.

Given this, why jib when one man murmurs to another "I hear the latest
Barking F10 is running xyz spring rates and uses Whitworth threads on
its cup-holder bracket screws"?

Do we really expect in this ferocious arena that the hearer would
stuff his ears, say a hail Mary and never ever speculatively fiddle
with those screws? If one of my engineers failed to take account of
useful hearsay information, I WOULD FIRE THAT ENGINEER'S SORRY ASS ON
THE SPOT. Are we in this game to win or play patty cake?

FIA media release: "Patty cake, free of danger to the immortal soul,
shall constitute the prime objective and pursuit of Formula One Grand
Prix racing until 2015, at which point actual competition may be
permitted."

Shinmen

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Sep 7, 2007, 7:56:31 AM9/7/07
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I cannot argue with a single point you have made. You hit the nail on
the head!


Lenny

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Sep 7, 2007, 8:10:36 AM9/7/07
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On Sep 7, 12:30 am, "brafi...@hotmail.com" <brafi...@hotmail.com>
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><snipo>

> Do we really expect in this ferocious arena that the hearer would
> stuff his ears, say a hail Mary and never ever speculatively fiddle
> with those screws? If one of my engineers failed to take account of
> useful hearsay information, I WOULD FIRE THAT ENGINEER'S SORRY ASS ON
> THE SPOT. Are we in this game to win or play patty cake?
<snipo>

If it was truly hearsay and not received from the chief designers ill
gotten bounty, it would be ethical, but we won't know until the
hearing where it came from and maybe we will never know where it was
procured.

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braf...@hotmail.com

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Sep 7, 2007, 5:28:33 PM9/7/07
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> If it was truly hearsay and not received from the chief designers ill
> gotten bounty, it would be ethical, but we won't know until the
> hearing where it came from and maybe we will never know where it was
> procured.

+++ Any team chief, is forever in a tight legal corner. If RD
receives e-mailed data from someone he knows, RD to save himself and
his team would have to immediately report it publicly, along with the
name of the sender (once called "ratting"). Then RD would have to
PRAY his cars were not going through an improvement phaset because
nobody -- least of all in the dreaded RASF1 -- would believe McLaren
had not illicitly benefited.

In fact, it's not a bad way of harming your opposition: for the price
of a postage stamp you could embroil them in costly damage control for
months. But no team would use such underhand tactics, would they?
Mama mia!, Credo che ho avuto un collasso cardiaco.......


John Briggs

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Sep 7, 2007, 8:10:07 PM9/7/07
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Not a stamp - they lashed out on a courier :-)
--
John Briggs


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