>> I've only been watching 10 mins and I really mis Crofty and Ant right
>> now.
> I'm not sure Jaime Alguersuari has a lot to offer. I've read he's said, rather
> too often
> "...I can't really say..."
The pair seem to lack confidence. It was blindingly obvious that Glock's front wing had parted company before the (slight) impact with the tyre wall, but neither dared venture an opinion until they saw a replay.
-- Chris
'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months.'
> >> I've only been watching 10 mins and I really mis Crofty and Ant right
> >> now.
> > I'm not sure Jaime Alguersuari has a lot to offer. I've read he's said, rather
> > too often
> > "...I can't really say..."
> The pair seem to lack confidence. It was blindingly obvious that Glock's > front wing had parted company before the (slight) impact with the tyre > wall, but neither dared venture an opinion until they saw a replay.
I didn't see that practice. Is it possible neither were watching the monitor at the time, there's a lot going on during practice sessions with them going to the pair in the pits quite frequently.
>> On 13/04/2012 4:32 PM, Timmy wrote:
>>> Bigbird wrote...
>>>> Timmy wrote:
>>>>> has been thrown out of the box !
>>>>> That's the BBC pecking order sorted.
>>>> I've only been watching 10 mins and I really mis Crofty and Ant right
>>>> now.
>>> I'm not sure Jaime Alguersuari has a lot to offer. I've read he's said, rather
>>> too often
>>> "...I can't really say..."
>> The pair seem to lack confidence. It was blindingly obvious that Glock's
>> front wing had parted company before the (slight) impact with the tyre
>> wall, but neither dared venture an opinion until they saw a replay.
> I didn't see that practice. Is it possible neither were watching the monitor
> at the time, there's a lot going on during practice sessions with them going to
> the pair in the pits quite frequently.
Yebbut - at the time the cameras lingered for quite a long time on the car up against the barrier, with the wing about 60 metres back. There were clear marks on the gravel where the car had bounced, plus a few leading to the wing. Each followed a different (divergent) trajectory leading from roughly the same point near the trackside.
You are being very kind to them. :-)
-- Chris
'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months.'
> On 13/04/2012 5:14 PM, Timmy wrote:
>> Mower Man wrote...
>>> On 13/04/2012 4:32 PM, Timmy wrote:
>>>> Bigbird wrote...
>>>>> Timmy wrote:
>>>>>> has been thrown out of the box !
>>>>>> That's the BBC pecking order sorted.
>>>>> I've only been watching 10 mins and I really mis Crofty and Ant right
>>>>> now.
>>>> I'm not sure Jaime Alguersuari has a lot to offer. I've read he's
>>>> said, rather
>>>> too often
>>>> "...I can't really say..."
>>> The pair seem to lack confidence. It was blindingly obvious that Glock's
>>> front wing had parted company before the (slight) impact with the tyre
>>> wall, but neither dared venture an opinion until they saw a replay.
>> I didn't see that practice. Is it possible neither were watching the
>> monitor
>> at the time, there's a lot going on during practice sessions with them
>> going to
>> the pair in the pits quite frequently.
> Yebbut - at the time the cameras lingered for quite a long time on the
> car up against the barrier, with the wing about 60 metres back. There
> were clear marks on the gravel where the car had bounced, plus a few
> leading to the wing. Each followed a different (divergent) trajectory
> leading from roughly the same point near the trackside.
> You are being very kind to them. :-)
But it wasn't obvious that something hadn't happened off-camera, e.g. a spin or hitting a kerb (both actually more likely than a wing spontaneously detaching itself.)
-- John Briggs
> On 13/04/2012 17:42, Mower Man wrote:
>> On 13/04/2012 5:14 PM, Timmy wrote:
>>> Mower Man wrote...
>>>> On 13/04/2012 4:32 PM, Timmy wrote:
>>>>> Bigbird wrote...
>>>>>> Timmy wrote:
>>>>>>> has been thrown out of the box !
>>>>>>> That's the BBC pecking order sorted.
>>>>>> I've only been watching 10 mins and I really mis Crofty and Ant right
>>>>>> now.
>>>>> I'm not sure Jaime Alguersuari has a lot to offer. I've read he's
>>>>> said, rather
>>>>> too often
>>>>> "...I can't really say..."
>>>> The pair seem to lack confidence. It was blindingly obvious that
>>>> Glock's
>>>> front wing had parted company before the (slight) impact with the tyre
>>>> wall, but neither dared venture an opinion until they saw a replay.
>>> I didn't see that practice. Is it possible neither were watching the
>>> monitor
>>> at the time, there's a lot going on during practice sessions with them
>>> going to
>>> the pair in the pits quite frequently.
>> Yebbut - at the time the cameras lingered for quite a long time on the
>> car up against the barrier, with the wing about 60 metres back. There
>> were clear marks on the gravel where the car had bounced, plus a few
>> leading to the wing. Each followed a different (divergent) trajectory
>> leading from roughly the same point near the trackside.
>> You are being very kind to them. :-)
> But it wasn't obvious that something hadn't happened off-camera, e.g. a
> spin or hitting a kerb (both actually more likely than a wing
> spontaneously detaching itself.)
A spin whilst travelling in a straight line? (He went off to the left whilst braking for a right hand turn.)
-- Chris
'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months.'
> > > > > > > That's the BBC pecking order sorted.
> > > > > > I've only been watching 10 mins and I really mis Crofty and
> > > > > > Ant right now.
> > > > > I'm not sure Jaime Alguersuari has a lot to offer. I've read
> > > > > he's said, rather
> > > > > too often
> > > > > "...I can't really say..."
> > > > The pair seem to lack confidence. It was blindingly obvious
> > > > that Glock's front wing had parted company before the (slight)
> > > > impact with the tyre wall, but neither dared venture an opinion
> > > > until they saw a replay.
> > > I didn't see that practice. Is it possible neither were watching
> > > the monitor
> > > at the time, there's a lot going on during practice sessions with
> > > them going to
> > > the pair in the pits quite frequently.
> > Yebbut - at the time the cameras lingered for quite a long time on
> > the car up against the barrier, with the wing about 60 metres back.
> > There were clear marks on the gravel where the car had bounced,
> > plus a few leading to the wing. Each followed a different
> > (divergent) trajectory leading from roughly the same point near the
> > trackside.
> > You are being very kind to them. :-)
> But it wasn't obvious that something hadn't happened off-camera, e.g.
> a spin or hitting a kerb (both actually more likely than a wing
> spontaneously detaching itself.)
It was pretty damn clear he hadn't had any contact with a barrier which
was the only suggestion they managed.
>> On 13/04/2012 17:42, Mower Man wrote:
>>> On 13/04/2012 5:14 PM, Timmy wrote:
>>>> Mower Man wrote...
>>>>> On 13/04/2012 4:32 PM, Timmy wrote:
>>>>>> Bigbird wrote...
>>>>>>> Timmy wrote:
>>>>>>>> has been thrown out of the box !
>>>>>>>> That's the BBC pecking order sorted.
>>>>>>> I've only been watching 10 mins and I really mis Crofty and
>>>>>>> Ant right now.
>>>>>> I'm not sure Jaime Alguersuari has a lot to offer. I've read
>>>>>> he's said, rather
>>>>>> too often
>>>>>> "...I can't really say..."
>>>>> The pair seem to lack confidence. It was blindingly obvious
>>>>> that Glock's front wing had parted company before the (slight)
>>>>> impact with the tyre wall, but neither dared venture an opinion
>>>>> until they saw a replay.
>>>> I didn't see that practice. Is it possible neither were watching
>>>> the monitor
>>>> at the time, there's a lot going on during practice sessions with
>>>> them going to
>>>> the pair in the pits quite frequently.
>>> Yebbut - at the time the cameras lingered for quite a long time on
>>> the car up against the barrier, with the wing about 60 metres back.
>>> There were clear marks on the gravel where the car had bounced,
>>> plus a few leading to the wing. Each followed a different
>>> (divergent) trajectory leading from roughly the same point near the
>>> trackside.
>>> You are being very kind to them. :-)
>> But it wasn't obvious that something hadn't happened off-camera, e.g.
>> a spin or hitting a kerb (both actually more likely than a wing
>> spontaneously detaching itself.)
> It was pretty damn clear he hadn't had any contact with a barrier which
> was the only suggestion they managed.
I wasn't defending them, I was just pointing out that without the footage we couldn't be sure what had actually happened. What seems to have happened is that only the connectors on one side of the nosecone actually, er, connected. Which makes it remarkable that he got as far as he did.
-- John Briggs
