> >> Why claim you are democratic when in fact your president is not > >> democratically elected?
> >> If you are worried about individual states skewing the figures why not > >> go for proportional representation - one vote per citizen and simply > >> tally the lot? What the fuck does a state have to do with a > >> presidential election - we're not talking senators here ya know.
> >> David
> >====================================
> >YOu see , we have this litle piece of paper called the US constitution , where our > >forefathers decided they didnt want 1 state with a huge population always electing the > >president for the other 12 . See each state should have a say in who is president and the > >Electoral college was born . The US doesnt let liberal judges reinvent
> >throw out what this country was founded on , although they try and when theydo , they get > >voted out of office.
> Once more for the terminally thick. Just what does electing a > president have to do with individual states? Is he just president for > some of the states or is he supposed to represent the whole country?
> Ah the old constitution thang. Like that has never been ammended. > Nope good enough for our four fathers and seven mothers good enough > for you lot eh?
> If you truly had a democracy then you would not allow a bunch of > electoral peeps to decide the presidency - you would allow the vote of > each and every citizen of USA to be counted.
> My understanding is that whole electoral college thing was due to the > large distances involved and the possibility of needing a second or > third vote. Due to the lack of electricity, phones, computers etc. > etc. that was the most practical means possible at the time.
> Times have changed. Every vote could be counted country-wide, not > state by state. So why stick with an antiquated undemocratic system? > I guess if you really do not want a democracy then that would be the > most valid reason to stick with what you have...
> David
Would you suggest that the parliamentary systems of the UK or Canada are more democratic?
Last time I voted in Canada there wasn't a member of the Government elected west of Manitoba. Doesn't seem terribly representative. Then there was the whole Mulrooney-stuffing-the-senate episode.
Just sticking to the Canadian theme of this thread.
> > You must be a victim of public schools run by the NEA.. There have been 3 > US Presidents > > that have won the Electoral vote while losing the Pop vote .
> > Adams , Hayes and Cleveland all won the Elector vote but lost the Pop > vote. See here in > > the US , we dont want a few highly populated states full of idiots like > California , > > Michigan ,NY electing presidentes for the rest of the other 47 stastes.
> That's right. We let the real idiots, the one that can't comprehend a > ballot, in Florida elect the President.
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NO , those were Al Gore voters that proudly proclaimed " we were too stupid to know how to punch a hole in a ballot , or at least ask for help from the polling workers to clear up the " confusions".
See the Idiots that didnt understand how to vote properly in Fla were unable to elect their president.
> Bush is a fucking moron. He's the figurehead of an EVIL oligarchy, > and it is my right as an AMERICAN citizen, under the US Constitution, > to not only recognize that reality but to speak my mind on the subject > in any forum I choose. I'm a New Yorker; those filthy barbarians > attacked MY city and slaughtered 3000 of MY friends neighbors, made > orphans of MY friends kids; and you, in your fascist obedience to the > intolerance of the American Political Right, are no better than them.
You must be proud of your New Senator HillBilly Clinton . WHile Bush was giving his first post 9-11 national address on how we would get those responsible for the WTC disaster , Hillbilly was caught on TV during that speech responding to Bush statements by rolling her eyes and clapping as if she had razor blades between her hands. No doubt she was wishing that WTC was attacked when Bubba was president so she could take any credit for revenging the terrorists. YOu NYers deserve being stuck with that witch for 5 more years . Maybe by then NYers will finall send the Clintoons packing back to their inbred Arkansas where they came from.
Opus One wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:47:02 +0000, Jeff York > <j...@jakfield.xu-netx.com> struggled to articulate: > >Opus One <tif...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>Bush is a fucking moron. He's the figurehead of an EVIL oligarchy, > >>and it is my right as an AMERICAN citizen, under the US Constitution, > >>to not only recognize that reality but to speak my mind on the subject > >>in any forum I choose. I'm a New Yorker; those filthy barbarians > >>attacked MY city and slaughtered 3000 of MY friends neighbors, made > >>orphans of MY friends kids; and you, in your fascist obedience to the > >>intolerance of the American Political Right, are no better than them.
> >Well spoken Mark..
> If poorly typed...
> Mark
> "It was the kind of crowd that would have made the Fool Killer > lower his club and shake his head and walk away, frustrated by > the magnitude of the opportunity." - Tom Wolfe,_The_Right_Stuff_
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YOur marchjing lockstep to the liberal democrat taliban loving terrorists makes you deserve what you got. Either you are against terrorists or you are with them.
"Mayhem!" wrote: > "Opus One" <tif...@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:oe0ttu426okj6gvf54l970ah0g0i0qfqep@4ax.com... > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 00:41:41 GMT, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum Dasshole > > <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> struggled to articulate: > > >have had 100 + citizens die in terror attacks. In > > >my book, a Moron is someone like you that attacks Bush while the US is > spending > > >Billions trying to help catch the people guilty of killing your own > countries > > >citizens.
> > Bush is a fucking moron. He's the figurehead of an EVIL oligarchy, > > and it is my right as an AMERICAN citizen, under the US Constitution, > > to not only recognize that reality but to speak my mind on the subject > > in any forum I choose. I'm a New Yorker; those filthy barbarians > > attacked MY city and slaughtered 3000 of MY friends neighbors, made > > orphans of MY friends kids; and you, in your fascist obedience to the > > intolerance of the American Political Right, are no better than them.
> <standing ovation>
> Ow ow ow... <sits down>
> Pants
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I can Seee Osama Bin Laden kneeling down to your feet and praising the ground you stand on. You make Allah proud. But beware , those 72 virgins wont be virgins anymore when you finally join your comrades and their harem in the sky.
> On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:38:30 GMT, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum > Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> wrote:
> >ajames54 wrote:
> >> >The scary thing about Canada is that everyone votes and it doesn't make a > >> >difference, Canadian democracy means everyone outside of 2 provinces might > >> >as well stay home.
> >> Yeah but at least we're not fooled into thinking what we have is > >> democracy...
> >> The only good thing about Bush is that the guys who are pulling > >> his strings are a lot smarter than he is...
> >> >And what towering intellect Al Gore displayed in his NPR interview > >> >yesterday!
> >====================================
> >Funny how AL Gore flunked out of Divinity College while Bush got a Harvard MBA > >, and Liberlas still call Bush " stupid " aand Al Gore some " genius".
> I can buy an MBA too ... but I don't need to... > Seriously though while gore is no prize at least he did his > national service... un-like Bush who dodged even showing up at > the ... (get this) Texas Air National Guard ... (and we wont even > talk about how he got that appointment!)
> This is the guy you want sending young americans into a war?
>"ajames54" <ajame...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:j20ttusffhs7evanfstj8gm6qumgp3vj10@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:38:30 GMT, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum >> Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> wrote:
>> >ajames54 wrote:
>> >> >The scary thing about Canada is that everyone votes and it doesn't >make a >> >> >difference, Canadian democracy means everyone outside of 2 provinces >might >> >> >as well stay home.
>> >> Yeah but at least we're not fooled into thinking what we have is >> >> democracy...
>> >> The only good thing about Bush is that the guys who are pulling >> >> his strings are a lot smarter than he is...
>> >> >And what towering intellect Al Gore displayed in his NPR interview >> >> >yesterday!
>> >====================================
>> >Funny how AL Gore flunked out of Divinity College while Bush got a >Harvard MBA >> >, and Liberlas still call Bush " stupid " aand Al Gore some " genius".
>> I can buy an MBA too ... but I don't need to... >> Seriously though while gore is no prize at least he did his >> national service... un-like Bush who dodged even showing up at >> the ... (get this) Texas Air National Guard ... (and we wont even >> talk about how he got that appointment!)
>> This is the guy you want sending young americans into a war?
>Totally meaningless.
>Abraham Lincoln's military service record?
>Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
>Woodrow Wilson?
Part of the point was the fact that it was meaningless.. buddy above claims gore failed out of divinity school.. and Bush has an MBA... at least I didn't lie...
> "ajames54" <ajame...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:j20ttusffhs7evanfstj8gm6qumgp3vj10@4ax.com... > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:38:30 GMT, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum > > Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> wrote:
> > >ajames54 wrote:
> > >> >The scary thing about Canada is that everyone votes and it doesn't > make a > > >> >difference, Canadian democracy means everyone outside of 2 provinces > might > > >> >as well stay home.
> > >> Yeah but at least we're not fooled into thinking what we have is > > >> democracy...
> > >> The only good thing about Bush is that the guys who are pulling > > >> his strings are a lot smarter than he is...
> > >> >And what towering intellect Al Gore displayed in his NPR interview > > >> >yesterday!
> > >====================================
> > >Funny how AL Gore flunked out of Divinity College while Bush got a > Harvard MBA > > >, and Liberlas still call Bush " stupid " aand Al Gore some " genius".
> > I can buy an MBA too ... but I don't need to... > > Seriously though while gore is no prize at least he did his > > national service... un-like Bush who dodged even showing up at > > the ... (get this) Texas Air National Guard ... (and we wont even > > talk about how he got that appointment!)
> > This is the guy you want sending young americans into a war?
> Totally meaningless.
> Abraham Lincoln's military service record?
> Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
> Woodrow Wilson?
Actually Lincoln did some sort of "service" in the black hawk "war", it was probably a little rougher than the Texas Air National Gaurd. But I've heard some pretty funny stories about Gore's Viet Nam tour.
> Part of the point was the fact that it was meaningless.. buddy > above claims gore failed out of divinity school.. and Bush has an > MBA... at least I didn't lie...
Maybe you should read a little more before calling people liars. I know thats not the liberal thing to do but you could at least try it for a change.
Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including a C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus in another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale." Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over by the press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of "Inventing Al Gore," he received F's in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a degree from the divinity school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA from Harvard).
> Actually Lincoln did some sort of "service" in the black hawk "war", it was > probably a little rougher than the Texas Air National Gaurd. But I've heard > some pretty funny stories about Gore's Viet Nam tour.
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Yeah , AL Gore was known to have patrolled inside the camp fences ready at any moment to jump out and shoot any enemy intruder with his Cannon Camera.
>> "ajames54" <ajame...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:j20ttusffhs7evanfstj8gm6qumgp3vj10@4ax.com... >> > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:38:30 GMT, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum >> > Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> wrote:
>> > >ajames54 wrote:
>> > >> >The scary thing about Canada is that everyone votes and it doesn't >> make a >> > >> >difference, Canadian democracy means everyone outside of 2 provinces >> might >> > >> >as well stay home.
>> > >> Yeah but at least we're not fooled into thinking what we have is >> > >> democracy...
>> > >> The only good thing about Bush is that the guys who are pulling >> > >> his strings are a lot smarter than he is...
>> > >> >And what towering intellect Al Gore displayed in his NPR interview >> > >> >yesterday!
>> > >====================================
>> > >Funny how AL Gore flunked out of Divinity College while Bush got a >> Harvard MBA >> > >, and Liberlas still call Bush " stupid " aand Al Gore some " genius".
>> > I can buy an MBA too ... but I don't need to... >> > Seriously though while gore is no prize at least he did his >> > national service... un-like Bush who dodged even showing up at >> > the ... (get this) Texas Air National Guard ... (and we wont even >> > talk about how he got that appointment!)
>> > This is the guy you want sending young americans into a war?
>> Totally meaningless.
>> Abraham Lincoln's military service record?
>> Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
>> Woodrow Wilson?
>Actually Lincoln did some sort of "service" in the black hawk "war", it was >probably a little rougher than the Texas Air National Gaurd. But I've heard >some pretty funny stories about Gore's Viet Nam tour.
Well I doubt that being a journalist for stars and stripes is what ya call difficult duty...
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:14:43 GMT, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> struggled to articulate:
>Opus One wrote: >> Bush is a fucking moron. He's the figurehead of an EVIL oligarchy, >> and it is my right as an AMERICAN citizen, under the US Constitution, >> to not only recognize that reality but to speak my mind on the subject >> in any forum I choose. I'm a New Yorker; those filthy barbarians >> attacked MY city and slaughtered 3000 of MY friends neighbors, made >> orphans of MY friends kids; and you, in your fascist obedience to the >> intolerance of the American Political Right, are no better than them.
>You must be proud of your New Senator HillBilly Clinton . WHile Bush was giving his >first post 9-11 national address
After hiding in every state with a GNP less than Jamaica's...
>on how we would get those responsible for the WTC >disaster , Hillbilly was caught on TV during that speech responding to Bush statements >by rolling her eyes and clapping as if she had razor blades between her hands.
Patriotism need not bow to jingoism and infantile rhetoric.
>No doubt >she was wishing that WTC was attacked when Bubba was president so she could take any >credit for revenging the terrorists. >YOu NYers deserve being stuck with that witch for 5 more years . Maybe by then NYers >will finall send the Clintoons packing back to their inbred Arkansas where they came >from.
I'm rather proud that my Senators can pronounce 'nuclear' without strings attached to their lips; I only wish your president could.
Mark
"It was the kind of crowd that would have made the Fool Killer lower his club and shake his head and walk away, frustrated by the magnitude of the opportunity." - Tom Wolfe,_The_Right_Stuff_
Opus One wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:14:43 GMT, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum Dasshole > <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> struggled to articulate: > >Opus One wrote: > >> Bush is a fucking moron. He's the figurehead of an EVIL oligarchy, > >> and it is my right as an AMERICAN citizen, under the US Constitution, > >> to not only recognize that reality but to speak my mind on the subject > >> in any forum I choose. I'm a New Yorker; those filthy barbarians > >> attacked MY city and slaughtered 3000 of MY friends neighbors, made > >> orphans of MY friends kids; and you, in your fascist obedience to the > >> intolerance of the American Political Right, are no better than them.
> >You must be proud of your New Senator HillBilly Clinton . WHile Bush was giving his > >first post 9-11 national address
> After hiding in every state with a GNP less than Jamaica's...
> >on how we would get those responsible for the WTC > >disaster , Hillbilly was caught on TV during that speech responding to Bush statements > >by rolling her eyes and clapping as if she had razor blades between her hands.
> Patriotism need not bow to jingoism and infantile rhetoric.
> >No doubt > >she was wishing that WTC was attacked when Bubba was president so she could take any > >credit for revenging the terrorists. > >YOu NYers deserve being stuck with that witch for 5 more years . Maybe by then NYers > >will finall send the Clintoons packing back to their inbred Arkansas where they came > >from.
> I'm rather proud that my Senators can pronounce 'nuclear' without > strings attached to their lips; I only wish your president could.
> Mark
> "It was the kind of crowd that would have made the Fool Killer > lower his club and shake his head and walk away, frustrated by > the magnitude of the opportunity." - Tom Wolfe,_The_Right_Stuff_
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LOL! Hillary thinks Manual Labor is a Puerto Rican voter in her District , thats her intelligence level.
>> Part of the point was the fact that it was meaningless.. buddy >> above claims gore failed out of divinity school.. and Bush has an >> MBA... at least I didn't lie...
>Maybe you should read a little more before calling people liars. I know thats >not the liberal thing to do but you could at least try it for a change.
>Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including a >C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus in >another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's grades >were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale." >Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over by the >press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt >Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of "Inventing Al Gore," >he received F's in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three >semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a degree from the divinity >school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for >a brief time and received his fair share of C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA >from Harvard).
Even accepting your source as accurate he didn't "fail-out" and you didn't mention the undergrad degree ... So I apologize ... You did not lie .. you simply presented only those facts you wanted to in a way as cast aspersions on anothers character... so not exactly the truth either..
And take that Liberal crack back... I'm proud to be a Libertarian ... As far as I'm concerned you and the "liberals" you so often deride are simply two peas in a pod slurping away at the government trough...
you just can't see it because your so conditioned to hate each other...
> >Gore's undergraduate transcript from Harvard is riddled with C's, including a > >C-minus in introductory economics, a D in one science course, and a C-plus in > >another. "In his sophomore year at Harvard," the Post reported, "Gore's grades > >were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale." > >Moreover, Gore's graduate school record - consistently glossed over by the > >press - is nothing short of shameful. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt > >Divinity School where, according to Bill Turque, author of "Inventing Al Gore," > >he received F's in five of the eight classes he took over the course of three > >semesters. Not surprisingly, Gore did not receive a degree from the divinity > >school. Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for > >a brief time and received his fair share of C's. (Bush went on to earn an MBA > >from Harvard).
> Even accepting your source as accurate he didn't "fail-out" > and you didn't mention the undergrad degree ... So I apologize > ... > You did not lie .. you simply presented only those facts you > wanted to in a way as cast aspersions on anothers character... > so not exactly the truth either..
> And take that Liberal crack back... I'm proud to be a Libertarian > ... As far as I'm concerned you and the "liberals" you so often > deride are simply two peas in a pod slurping away at the > government trough...
> you just can't see it because your so conditioned to hate each > other...
Senator Tom Temper Tantrum Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> writes:
> Ignasi Palou-Rivera wrote:
> > Senator Tom Temper Tantrum Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate > > .Gov> writes:
> > > The source was none other than the Editorail in the Liberal Baaaston > > > Herald Paper.
> > That's a good one. The Boston Herald called a liberal paper! > Yep , the hometown paper of Ted the Swimmer Kennedy , John Kerry , and > the rest of the liberal Puke that run Massachusettes.
Shows how much you know. How many major papers does Boston have? How are they related to New York papers? Which of the two major governor candidates did the Herald endorse?
Fri, 22 Nov 2002 at 18:25 GMT, Mike Whooley wrote:
> To be fair, the EU is much the same; power is divided (roughly) even > between states; otherwise states like Ireland would stay the hell away
Eh, it's not, and it is getting worse. It is the bigger countries (Germany and France, ...) who decide, and have, for example, already decided that certain important jobs which used to rotate over all countries are now only rotated over the few big ones.
> as they would have virtually no control over their own destiny within > the EU.
The reason Ireland are in is that they will get a lot of money, not control...
-peter
-- Hello. I'm Seargant Pepper, the Chief of Police for the Townsville Police Department. My men and I have have decided to make the following statement: Help! we need somebody. Help! not just anybody. Help! we need the Powerpuff Girls. Ahem. Thank you.
><jamesh...@nospamyabstard.rocketmail.com> wrote in message >news:3dde769f.27193812@newshost.us.oracle.com... >> On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 18:17:05 GMT, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum Dasshole >> <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> farted:
>> >> Why claim you are democratic when in fact your president is not >> >> democratically elected?
>> >> If you are worried about individual states skewing the figures why not >> >> go for proportional representation - one vote per citizen and simply >> >> tally the lot? What the fuck does a state have to do with a >> >> presidential election - we're not talking senators here ya know.
>> >> David
>> >====================================
>> >YOu see , we have this litle piece of paper called the US constitution , >where our >> >forefathers decided they didnt want 1 state with a huge population always >electing the >> >president for the other 12 . See each state should have a say in who is >president and the >> >Electoral college was born . The US doesnt let liberal judges reinvent >the constitution and >> >throw out what this country was founded on , although they try and when >theydo , they get >> >voted out of office.
>> Once more for the terminally thick. Just what does electing a >> president have to do with individual states? Is he just president for >> some of the states or is he supposed to represent the whole country?
>> Ah the old constitution thang. Like that has never been ammended. >> Nope good enough for our four fathers and seven mothers good enough >> for you lot eh?
>> If you truly had a democracy then you would not allow a bunch of >> electoral peeps to decide the presidency - you would allow the vote of >> each and every citizen of USA to be counted.
>> My understanding is that whole electoral college thing was due to the >> large distances involved and the possibility of needing a second or >> third vote. Due to the lack of electricity, phones, computers etc. >> etc. that was the most practical means possible at the time.
>> Times have changed. Every vote could be counted country-wide, not >> state by state. So why stick with an antiquated undemocratic system? >> I guess if you really do not want a democracy then that would be the >> most valid reason to stick with what you have...
>> David
>Would you suggest that the parliamentary systems of the UK or Canada are >more democratic?
I certainly would not. And that is my point. The number of times I have seen American after American claiming to live in the true democracy whilst appearing ignorant of any of its failings is far too often to count. You will find a healthy appraisal of the failings of the systems of government in the majority of European countries. We do not appear to be so blind to the limitations of the various systems.
>Last time I voted in Canada there wasn't a member of the Government elected >west of Manitoba. Doesn't seem terribly representative. Then there was the >whole Mulrooney-stuffing-the-senate episode.
>Just sticking to the Canadian theme of this thread.
>>Here's a question for you. When (or if) the EU evolves or morphs into >>a single goverened entity are you in favour of electing the leader by: >>a) one country one vote >>or >>b) one person one vote >>or >>c) blindfolded scrabble competitions
>Actually, I would resolutely oppose the above, because >a) is unfair, and undemocratic. >b) means Ireland conceding control of it's own future. >c) because scrabble is an awful waste of a perfectly good blindfold..
>I may be wandering off topic (habit of mine) but I'm very much against >a monolithic European electorate; the closest previous example I can >think of (the US) required one of the bloodiest civil wars in history >to keep it from breaking up.
I am not in favour of a USA version of the EU. However, I was simply following your line of reasoning in trying to compare the EU with the USA. Therefore view the above as hypothetical. To be honest that is exactly how it was meant anyway. I was not asking whether you thought the complete legal and political unification of Europe was a good thing I asked that when or if that happens which of those three would you choose as the way of electing a leader democratically. Of course the 3rd option was flippant, substitute your own more sensible answer there if you like. But I would appreciate your answer as you seek to defend the US's lack of democracy in their process by trying to use the EU as an analogy.
> > > Senator Tom Temper Tantrum Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate > > > .Gov> writes:
> > > > The source was none other than the Editorail in the Liberal Baaaston > > > > Herald Paper.
> > > That's a good one. The Boston Herald called a liberal paper! > > Yep , the hometown paper of Ted the Swimmer Kennedy , John Kerry , and > > the rest of the liberal Puke that run Massachusettes.
> Shows how much you know. How many major papers does Boston have? How > are they related to New York papers? Which of the two major governor > candidates did the Herald endorse?
Mass has re re re re re re elected DUI Ted Kennedy since the 60's . No Conservative stae would ever do that . Arkansas just tossd out a Republcian Senator for cheating on his wife. Imagine what they would ahve don if he Drowned his Floozie while Driving DUI. like Ted Kennedy did.
>> >And you dont see me spouting off and trashing your country's governing political rules and >> >laws .
>> My country? What claims have I made about *my* country that you feel >> the need to disagree with? If I have made such claims feel free to >> disagree as I happen to believe in freedom of speech.
>==================================
>You never said what country you live in .
You never asked. Also you should really state the relevance to this discussion. No really. Of what relevance is the system of government in Borneo to the lack of transparent democracy in the election of the most powerful political leader in the world? Seriously? Or are you falling for the usual intellectual trap of thinking that I must believe our system is perfect as you obviously think yours is?
>You must be embarassed to tell us.
Why would I be embarrassed? Do you seriously think I am as arrogantly blind to the failings of our system as you are to yours?
>Otherwise why would >you ridicule the US Constitution when you obvioulsy have never read it ?
Usual cop out.
Why not try addressing the issues I raised. From your in depth study of your constitution please explain why it dictates that you elect your president by an electoral college rather than by a democratic majority of the voting citizens. Whilst doing so elicudate as to why you think that system was chosen at the time and try postulating why such a less than democratically optimum system might be less than appropriate in the 21st century.
>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:47:02 +0000, Jeff York >> <j...@jakfield.xu-netx.com> struggled to articulate: >> >Opus One <tif...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> >>Bush is a fucking moron. He's the figurehead of an EVIL oligarchy, >> >>and it is my right as an AMERICAN citizen, under the US Constitution, >> >>to not only recognize that reality but to speak my mind on the subject >> >>in any forum I choose. I'm a New Yorker; those filthy barbarians >> >>attacked MY city and slaughtered 3000 of MY friends neighbors, made >> >>orphans of MY friends kids; and you, in your fascist obedience to the >> >>intolerance of the American Political Right, are no better than them.
>> >Well spoken Mark..
>> If poorly typed...
>> Mark
>> "It was the kind of crowd that would have made the Fool Killer >> lower his club and shake his head and walk away, frustrated by >> the magnitude of the opportunity." - Tom Wolfe,_The_Right_Stuff_
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>YOur marchjing lockstep to the liberal democrat taliban loving terrorists >makes you deserve what you got. Either you are against terrorists or you are >with them.
Once more scumball (if that is your real name). Please pass on the proof that Iraq is in league with Bin Laden etc. to your CIA. They would really appreciate some info like that as they have nothing, nada, zilch, zippo... to link Iraq to active terrorism.
>> In article <qYtD9.446$kO5.406417 >> @news1.news.adelphia.net>, Senator Tom Temper Tantrum >> Dasshole <"I Throw Hissy Fits "@ Senate .Gov> says...
>> > Funny how AL Gore flunked out of Divinity College while Bush got a Harvard MBA >> > , and Liberlas still call Bush " stupid " aand Al Gore some " genius".
>> Liberlas ? Wasn't he in Lord of the Rings ?
>> T. >> -- >> There are 10 types of people in the world. >> Those that understand binary and those that don't.
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>Why is it that people have orgasms over bumping adjacent key typos ?
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