This will be the last F1 event in the U.S. for a long long time, folks.
pilota
And Bernie will add an Asian race next season to replace Indy.
He only needs one North American venue- and Montreal is the superior
choice.
Carel
>
> He only needs one North American venue- and Montreal is the superior
> choice.
I'd love to see them do Laguna Seca.
Carel
Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
17 Jun 2007 02:00:19p:
Bernie is just turning the screws on Tony George. When negotiations
start getting really tense, expect the mayor of Long Beach to give
Bernie the key to the city.
Yes I know we Americans have been trying our damndest to turn this
place into a 3rd world country, but we haven't succeeded yet. The
customers are still here for the products the F1 sponsors want to
sell. And that means more races, not fewer.
In the spirit of pilota's prediction, how about holding the second
race at Barber Motorsports Park? Or maybe Talladega?
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Indiana Joe
"Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen" <rev...@the.rectory.easynews.com> wrote:
> In the spirit of pilota's prediction, how about holding the second
> race at Barber Motorsports Park? Or maybe Talladega?
BMP looks like a nice enough track, if a little short (2.38 miles).
Talledega is a tri-oval, which means they'd have to add an infield
section like they did at Indy. However, they're both in the eastern half
of the US, and I think Bernie wants to do something further west.
I predict that if a second US Grand Prix is added, it will be at a new
track built north of Las Vegas. I'd use the Nürburgring as a model, just
scaled down and adapted to modern safety standards.
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Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
saying on Tue 19 Jun 2007 06:15:03a:
> BMP looks like a nice enough track, if a little short (2.38 miles).
> Talledega is a tri-oval, which means they'd have to add an infield
> section like they did at Indy.
You're going about it wrong. They could rent BMP for US$5,000 a day,
all in. Since the paddock is outside the track, the drivers' families
could come along and have a nice picnic while the guys race. And the
F1 cars could race on the oval at Talladega. With restrictor plates.
> However, they're both in the
> eastern half of the US, and I think Bernie wants to do something
> further west.
>
> I predict that if a second US Grand Prix is added, it will be at a
> new track built north of Las Vegas. I'd use the Nürburgring as a
> model, just scaled down and adapted to modern safety standards.
I vaguely remember hearing about plans for a new track in the Nevada
desert. Have they solved the problem of spectators spontaneously
bursting into flame?
Marcus Streets
TV. I have never made it out there.
What state are the pit garages etc in.
Mind you Sear's Point is also a nice track - but as I recall the
facilities are not F1 standard, but I have only been there once fro a
club meet.
Marcus
Kim Andrews
<mj...@eightflames.org> wrote:
>What state are the pit garages etc in.
California.
:o>
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Indiana Joe
"Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen" <rev...@the.rectory.easynews.com> wrote:
> I vaguely remember hearing about plans for a new track in the Nevada
> desert. Have they solved the problem of spectators spontaneously
> bursting into flame?
They can use whatever they're using in Bahrain. :-)
kuze...@duke.edu
> I vaguely remember hearing about plans for a new track in the Nevada
> desert. Have they solved the problem of spectators spontaneously
> bursting into flame?
They plan to call it a "rapid weight-loss program" and
charge extra for anyone who combusts.
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Dillon Pyron
>Carel wrote:
>> pilota wrote:
>>>
>>> He only needs one North American venue- and Montreal is the superior
>>> choice.
>>
>> I'd love to see them do Laguna Seca.
>>
>> Carel
>>
>>
>Wouldn't we all - it is a great track at least from what I have seen on
>TV. I have never made it out there.
>
>What state are the pit garages etc in.
Nowhere near standards. And the spectator facilities aren't there.
It's a nice track, but it's several million dollars away from being
ready for F1.
>
>Mind you Sear's Point is also a nice track - but as I recall the
>facilities are not F1 standard, but I have only been there once fro a
>club meet.
Even less ready. Again, a nice track. Actually, a great track to
race on, but not really suited for F1. More than several million
dollars away.
IMS has very deep pockets and could afford to modify the track, pits,
garages, paddock area. Neither of those tracks fit into that
category.
The only track that comes close to the financial resources is Atlanta.
>
>Marcus
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dillon
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seen a .sig beat a Sig.
David Melville
dmpyron...@austin.rr.com says...
> Thus spake Marcus Streets <mj...@eightflames.org> :
>
> >Carel wrote:
> >> pilota wrote:
> >>>
> >>> He only needs one North American venue- and Montreal is the superior
> >>> choice.
> >>
> >> I'd love to see them do Laguna Seca.
> >>
> >> Carel
> >>
> >>
> >Wouldn't we all - it is a great track at least from what I have seen on
> >TV. I have never made it out there.
> >
> >What state are the pit garages etc in.
>
> Nowhere near standards. And the spectator facilities aren't there.
> It's a nice track, but it's several million dollars away from being
> ready for F1.
>
international sporting events) is loose change, but, as someone wrote a
few days ago, the US governments (local and federal) won't throw money
at motor racing. Secondly, and more depressingly, I think every single
fan on the planet wants to see F1 at Laguna Seca.
> >Marcus
>
pltrgyst
wrote:
>Thus spake Marcus Streets <mj...@eightflames.org> :
>
>>>> He only needs one North American venue- and Montreal is the superior
>>>> choice.
>>>
>>> I'd love to see them do Laguna Seca.
>>
>>Wouldn't we all - it is a great track at least from what I have seen on
>>TV. I have never made it out there.
>>
>>What state are the pit garages etc in.
>
>Nowhere near standards. And the spectator facilities aren't there.
>It's a nice track, but it's several million dollars away from being
>ready for F1.
And the track itself is too narrow and too bumpy in sections for F1.
-- Larry
amyzengrace
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:00:10 +0100, Dillon Pyron <dmpyronINVA...@austin.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Thus spake Marcus Streets <m...@eightflames.org> :
>
> >>>> He only needs one North American venue- and Montreal is the superior
> >>>> choice.
>
> >>> I'd love to see them do Laguna Seca.
>
> >>Wouldn't we all - it is a great track at least from what I have seen on
> >>TV. I have never made it out there.
>
> >>What state are the pit garages etc in.
>
> >Nowhere near standards. And the spectator facilities aren't there.
> >It's a nice track, but it's several million dollars away from being
> >ready for F1.
>
> And the track itself is too narrow and too bumpy in sections for F1.
>
> -- Larry
oh yeh, what's this i heard about bernie sending a letter to the
government of India? threat or potential?
Anand Nene
>>
>> >Nowhere near standards. And the spectator facilities aren't there.
>> >It's a nice track, but it's several million dollars away from being
>> >ready for F1.
>>
>> And the track itself is too narrow and too bumpy in sections for F1.
>>
>> -- Larry
>
> oh yeh, what's this i heard about bernie sending a letter to the
> government of India? threat or potential?
How does milking the cow sound?
But I would say don't read much into it. It ain't happening that soon.
India should to be there on the calendar no doubt, but they should set a
roadmap for it to happen, a target date and hope F1 manages to survive
till then and then invite the officials not just from F1 but also from
A1, ChampCar, IRL, MotoGP, Sports Car, NASCAR etc. Building a street
circuit just to be on the F1 calendar is a horrible idea. Politely
differ Bernie's inviation for now and always base your operating model
on "don't call me, I'll call you"!
--
"He's lost that engine - that'll become a coffee table because
there's nothing else you can do with it." (Coulthard too retires
with an engine failure)
Dillon Pyron
Very rough. They've talked about resurfacing it for several years.
Talked and talked and ...
I've only raced there once. Very hard to see in some sections in a
formula car.
--
dillon
Broadway Photo sucks. Ask me why.
Mike Fleming
<dmpyron...@austin.rr.com> writes:
> Very rough. They've talked about resurfacing it for several years.
> Talked and talked and ...
>
> I've only raced there once. Very hard to see in some sections in a
> formula car.
Have they changed the bit where Gonzalo Rodriguez was killed?
IIRC, several WSB riders threatened to not race there a few years ago
as they considered it dangerous. As at least one of them had ridden
the Isle of Man TT, it wasn't as if the riders were chicken...
--
Mike Fleming
Dillon Pyron
>In article <sl1g831j32hg4s57p...@4ax.com>, Dillon Pyron
><dmpyron...@austin.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Very rough. They've talked about resurfacing it for several years.
>> Talked and talked and ...
>>
>> I've only raced there once. Very hard to see in some sections in a
>> formula car.
>
>Have they changed the bit where Gonzalo Rodriguez was killed?
That actually wasn't so much an issue of rough as it was of something
that sneaks up on you. The visuals just aren't there. Yes, there's
signage, but they just don't help.
>
>IIRC, several WSB riders threatened to not race there a few years ago
>as they considered it dangerous. As at least one of them had ridden
>the Isle of Man TT, it wasn't as if the riders were chicken...
Those guys have brass balls o begin with, so when one of them
complains, I listen. I've got a nice cage of steel around me. They
have a couple of mm of leather.