Homestead Testing Report
.
media sensation, Danica Patrick's ass even now. The season
hasn't begun and yet he's already accomplished more than
either CCWS defending champion Bourdais or then points
leader Junquiera (note to mention former 500 Champ Lazier
and protege and perennial prodigy Scheckter) were able to
achieve when competing against her in their (P, B & J) only
meeting last year at Indy.
Although still behind last years IRL champion at this point in
time, unlike Dan, Marco at least didn't crash. Nearly everyone
else put in more laps and except for the AGR guys, Dixon and
Sharp, those placing ahead of him did so in those additional laps.
"Shockingly", the cars of the team owner who's actually building
the serie's engines this year, thereby making for a "level playing
field" (as opposed to the "un-level field" last year when each team
could and did run any of three available engines of their choosing
NOT built by ANY team owner) finished 1-2 in TESTING.
http://www.indyracereports.com/2006/Articles/HmstdOpenTestWeekend.htm
Period
good for a rookie, but 2 MPH off the pace of the front runners.
Why don't you wait until he actually accomplishes something worthwhile
before proclaiming him to be the second coming? And do try to remember,
it is only testing.
forty
year. Shirley he's a champion in the making.
--
There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
-Forty
Dot Period Full Stop
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Cal Vanize
Period wrote:
Its no surprise that a rookie would approach competitive speeds in such
a weak weekend club as the IRL.
Cal Vanize
Dot Period Full Stop wrote:
> Period <hays...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>He was 12th out of 18 and only 0.2 seconds faster than Danica. Pretty
>>good for a rookie, but 2 MPH off the pace of the front runners.
>>
>>Why don't you wait until he actually accomplishes something worthwhile
>>before proclaiming him to be the second coming? And do try to remember,
>>it is only testing.
>>
>>
>
> Marco's going to be the next John Andretti, not the next Mario.
>
So you're predicting yet another full Andretti failure? A fourth-rate
field filler on a team that could only compete in a third-rate club?
Dillon Pyron
>Period wrote:
>> He was 12th out of 18 and only 0.2 seconds faster than Danica. Pretty
>> good for a rookie, but 2 MPH off the pace of the front runners.
>>
>> Why don't you wait until he actually accomplishes something worthwhile
>> before proclaiming him to be the second coming? And do try to remember,
>> it is only testing.
>>
>Anthony Davidson was the fastest F1 driver in testing at Valencia this
>year. Shirley he's a champion in the making.
I actually wouldn't doubt that. Ant has some pretty good qualities.
Too bad he didn't get a much deserved ride and that won't be getting
the Friday time.
--
dillon
Could have been is in the past
Could be is in the future
There is only the now
Robert Lorenzini
> Marco Andretti is kicking multiple-pole-winning, and former
Marco got his ass kicked but good by Debbie Rahal's little
boy last year.
Bob
.
news:slrne0mj8...@localhost.localdomain...
Oh, he must mean the guy that can't land a full time testing
position, not to mention a full time ride, in any respectable
(or even crap) series or team, let alone the both defending
Indy 500 and dominating, back to back, two time champ-
ionship team in America's current premier racing series.
As always, his response is yet again not an iota shy of
thoroughly ridiculous and totally hilarious. He really
should at least consider taking it on the road, unlike his
usual compulsion of continually taking it on the chin.
Period
full time testing
position" beats him soundly in a development series, but yet Marco is
gifted a ride with " the both defending Indy 500 and dominating, back
to back, two time championship team".
...Nepotism?
forty
> ...Nepotism?
>
We promote family values here...
... almost as much as we promote family members
Period
Good one...where did you get it?
forty
> Snort ;-)
>
> Good one...where did you get it?
>
offices? I saw a spoof poster with the title 'Nepotism' with that as the
caption. I couldn't help but think of our lovely American racing family.
Robert Lorenzini
Thank you for puting Marco in the proper perspective.
Bob
.
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>
> . wrote:
> > Marco Andretti
>
> [KKKen snip]
>
> Dot's a cross-posting hypocrite:
> From: .
> Date: Wed, May 18 2005 8:22 am
>
> Yet even more undeserved concentration on and press for a driver
> who's STILL accomplished absolutely NOTHING, no championship,
> no wins, no poles, no points lead, no podium appearances ...
A primmer/refresher to those poor imbeciles for whom these
concepts have obviously already proven to be far too difficult:
Marco Andretti so far:
2006
. Competing in Indy Car series with two time Championship Team AGR
. Competing in Indy 500 with defending Championship Team AGR
. Bombardier Rookie of the Year candidate
2005
. Competed part time in IRL Infiniti Pro Series, 6 events
. 3 wins from the pole including his first ever Pro race
. 3 pole positions
. 5 podium finishes
. Competed part time in Star Mazda Series, Finished 5th
2004
. Champion - Skip Barber National Series
. Champion - Skip Barber Formula Dodge Southern Series
. Champion - Formula TR
2003 (first year in cars)
. Captured Skip Barber's Formula Dodge Eastern Series Championship
. 8 First Place finishes: Lime Rock, 5 times; Virginia; Mont Tremblant;
Lime Rock; Road America
. Skip Barber's Formula Dodge Eastern Series "Rookie of the Year"
. Set Track Records at Virginia International Raceway; Lime Rock Park,
CT ; Moroso Motorsports Park, FL ; & Road Atlanta
2002 (first year in karting nationally)
. Won Stars of Tomorrow National Championship for Oakland Valley
. Backwards Series Co-Champion for Oakland Valley
. Captured 1st and 2nd for Junior Regional Super Nationals Oakland Valley
. Secured five World Karting Association Podiums and two fast laps
. Had a Stars of Tomorrow National Win in Nevada
2001 ( Oakland Valley )
. Backward Series Champion
. Track Champion
. Back to School Series Co-Champion
2000 ( Oakland Valley )
. Track Champion
. Pro Shifter Series Champion
. Back to School Series Champion
1999
. First Race in Oakland Valley Race Park
. Challenge Series Win
1997
. First Kart Race (Flemmington , New Jersey) - 2nd Place
. Two Wins and Six Podium Finishes - Flemmington
And all by the tender young age of 18.
.
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Marco Andretti so far:
Now someone, hell anyone at all, kindly remind us as to how
Rahal's unaccomplished offspring, that clearly no one wants,
stacks up against that stellar record.
The silence is truly deafening!
.
.
forty
>
> And all by the tender young age of 18.
>
If one were to compare two drivers, and one was quite younger than the
other, the comparison would be skewed. Someone with 8 years of racing
experience would by default have a longer resume than someone with 5
years of racing experience. Can one say, 'De Facto?'
A fairer comparison, however, is to place two drivers in equal racecars
and have them race against each other in a competitive series. That is
exactly what the 2005 Star Mazda championship was. Here are a few facts
for consideration regarding this:
*Out of the 12 races contested by both Andretti and Rahal, Rahal
finished higher than Andretti 7 times.
*Out of those 12 races, Rahal scored 6 podium finishes: 1 victory, 3
second places, and 2 third places whereas Andretti scored 1 podium
finish: second place.
*At Pikes Peak, the only oval race of the season, Rahal finished second
by inches at his first ever oval race in an open wheel racecar whereas
Andretti finished 9th, his fastest lap being 0.4 seconds slower than
Rahal's fastest lap.
*At the onset of the season, Andretti had 3 more years of racing
experience than Rahal, yet was outpaced as mentioned above and finished
1 place lower in the standings having contested exactly the same number
of championship races.
> Now someone, hell anyone at all, kindly remind us as to how
> Rahal's unaccomplished offspring, that clearly no one wants,
> stacks up against that stellar record.
Alex Job is a nobody?
Care to kindly point out any instances where Marco competed against and
finished higher than former F1, CART, & IRL drivers with equal equipment?
http://www.a1gp.com/news/index.php?flashNavId=1&newsid=228
http://www.a1gp.com/news/index.php?flashNavId=1&newsid=229
> The silence is truly deafening!
>
>
See above.
.
In all that bullshit you're able to point to but a SINGLE victory,
but no more, and NOT a single championship, track record,
fastest lap ... in his 5 + years?! How strikingly preposterous!!!
Remind us all again of with whom he currently has a
full time either ride or even testing position. Nuff said.
Marco Andretti so far:
And all by the tender young age of 18.
Again, someone, hell anyone at all, kindly remind us as to
how Rahal's unaccomplished offspring, that clearly no one
wants, stacks up against that stellar record.
The continuing silence remains truly deafening!
forty
> In all that bullshit ...
In all your bullshit you failed to address how the supposedly superior
Andretti was handily outpaced by the supposedly inferior Rahal in equal
equipment. Thanks for playing.
.
> . wrote:
>
> > In all that bullshit ...
>
> In all your bullshit you failed to address how the supposedly superior
> Andretti was handily outpaced by the supposedly inferior Rahal in equal
> equipment. Thanks for playing.
>
When the overwhelming number of documented facts won't
support, but do in fact contradict, your pretentious argument, you
attempt to instead obfuscate with non germane minutia designed
to explain away a total lack of worthwhile, marketable results.
Unlike your own apologist screed, my response contains not so much
as a single attempt at deception, misdirection or avoidance, just the
facts speak for themselves, read it and weep, indisputable truth.
> Thanks for playing.
>
> -Forty
Sure, come by any time and get your ass stomped yet again.
Marco Andretti so far:
Again, won't someone, hell anyone at all, kindly remind us
as to how Rahal's unaccomplished offspring, that clearly no
one wants, stacks up against that stellar record.
The pretentious attempts at obfuscation are hilariously entertaining!
forty
> "forty" <cfo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:473h80F...@individual.net...
>> . wrote:
>>
>>> In all that bullshit ...
>> In all your bullshit you failed to address how the supposedly superior
>> Andretti was handily outpaced by the supposedly inferior Rahal in equal
>> equipment. Thanks for playing.
>>
>> -Forty
>
>
> When the overwhelming number of documented facts won't
> support, but do in fact contradict, your pretentious argument, you
> attempt to instead obfuscate with non germane minutia designed
> to explain away a total lack of worthwhile, marketable results.
>
I simply posted facts. If my facts are inaccurate, please indicate where
the errors are.
> Unlike your own apologist screed, my response contains not so much
> as a single attempt at deception, misdirection or avoidance, just the
> facts speak for themselves, read it and weep, indisputable truth.
>
I posted facts, plain and simple. Facts are facts. You posted yours, I
posted mine. You make assertions regarding Marco's superiority to
Graham, I posted facts contrary to such an assertion.
>> Thanks for playing.
>>
>> -Forty
>
> Sure, come by any time and get your ass stomped yet again.
>
We always love your 'stompings.' A little humor on a Monday morning
helps the day go by easier.
Could you post those stats again, just in case anyone missed them? Thanks.
--
Forty - welcome to the no man's land between the logical and Kafkaesque
.
> You make assertions regarding Marco's superiority to
> Graham, I posted facts contrary to such an assertion
Again, for the slow and dimwitted, you've posted no
contrary facts to my assertions whatsoever.
Happy to oblige > Ctrl V
Marco Andretti, so far:
forty
> "forty" <cfo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:rs-dnRbSvuraB5HZ...@hamilton.edu..
>
>> You make assertions regarding Marco's superiority to
>> Graham, I posted facts contrary to such an assertion
>
> Again, for the slow and dimwitted, you've posted no
> contrary facts to my assertions whatsoever.
So the fact that Marco was outpaced over the course of the 2005 Star
Mazda season by Graham while driving equal equipment doesn't contradict
an assertion that Marco is superior to Graham? Care to explain why this
information doesn't contradict such an assertion?
Care to pontificate on how quoting such facts constitutes an act of
obfuscation? In what way are they barring understanding? What part of
those facts are confusing? Does a bulleted list make it harder to read?
Perhaps the use of jargon such as 'podium,' 'finished higher,' and
'outpaced' serves as a roadblock to understanding?
Period
impressed? That's all Marco got. A ride from his father.
...Nothing more.
forty
.
> . wrote:
Your posts are, as is so often the case, at least good for a hearty
laugh, e.g., "twenty cars at Indy".
Again, for the umpteenth time for the retarded, here are the facts.
Now kindly tell us again which ones you've contradicted.
.
> So you mean if Bobby had offered his son a drive, you would have been
> impressed? That's all Marco got. A ride from his father.
>
> ...Nothing more.
>
And poor old unaccomplished Graham couldn't even
begin to score that much (nor a testing position) from
his knowing and clearly unconfident father.
forty
> Now kindly tell us again which ones you've contradicted.
>
If you would kindly learn how to read, you would clearly see that I did
not contradict any facts. I quoted facts to contradict an assertion.
There is a difference. When you learn the difference, we can talk. Until
then, keep it safe and try not to cause any physical damage during your
episodes.
.
> . wrote:
>
> > Now kindly tell us again which ones you've contradicted.
> >
>
> If you would kindly learn how to read, you would clearly see that I did
> not contradict any facts.
>
I'm, as always, well aware. Your confession is duly noted.
forty
>
> My denial is duly noted.
>
>
Thanks.
Allan Pagan
. wrote:
> "Allan Pagan" <allan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1141418752.3...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > . wrote:
> > > Marco Andretti
> >
> > [KKKen snip]
> >
> > Dot's a cross-posting hypocrite:
> > From: .
> > Date: Wed, May 18 2005 8:22 am
> >
> > Yet even more undeserved concentration on and press for a driver
> > who's STILL accomplished absolutely NOTHING, no championship,
> > no wins, no poles, no points lead, no podium appearances ...
>
>
> A primmer/refresher
[KKKensnip]
Just when you though dot couldn't possibly be more of a
moron...Special Ed smokes Marco on the oval at Homestead!
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahaha!
But you, dot, are still an imbecilic hypocrite. You have provided
nothing to refute your assertion that Marco besting DP in practice is
meaningful. It's not, and neither are you or your posts. Your
repeated apoplectic pasting and your attempt to obscure your original
assertion is laugh-out-loud funny. Special Ed, Marco, Paul Dana, Buddy
Rice, Danica Patrick; the IRL is laughable in its mediocrity, dot.
Want to make a 'dot wager' where there are no terms, odds or money
discussed? Hahahahahahahahaha!
Cristoforro
forty wrote:
> . wrote:
>
> >
> > My denial is duly noted.
> >
> >
LOL! Could it be that the infallible logic of the dot has failed? Has
the dot admitted that his assertion of Marco's greatness is indeed not
a fact? Well done, sir! That trap took a little while to set up, I see.
LMAO!
.
A primmer/refresher to those poor imbeciles for whom these
concepts have obviously already proven to be far too difficult:
Marco Andretti, so far (and all by the tender young age of 18):
2006
. Competing in Indy Car series with two time Championship Team AGR
. Competing in Indy 500 with defending Championship Team AGR
. Bombardier Rookie of the Year candidate
2005
. Competed part time in IRL Infiniti Pro Series, 6 events
. 3 wins from the pole including his first ever Pro race
. 3 pole positions
. 5 podium finishes
. Competed part time in Star Mazda Series, Finished 5th
2004
. Champion - Skip Barber National Series
. Champion - Skip Barber Formula Dodge Southern Series
. Champion - Formula TR
2003 (first year in cars)
. Captured Skip Barber's Formula Dodge Eastern Series Championship
. 8 First Place finishes: Lime Rock, 5 times; Virginia; Mont Tremblant;
.
news:1141684585.0...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
ROTFLMAO!!!
A primmer/refresher to those poor imbeciles for whom these
concepts have obviously already proven to be far too difficult:
Marco Andretti, so far (and all by the tender young age of 18):
2006
. Competing in Indy Car series with two time Championship Team AGR
. Competing in Indy 500 with defending Championship Team AGR
. Bombardier Rookie of the Year candidate
2005
. Competed part time in IRL Infiniti Pro Series, 6 events
. 3 wins from the pole including his first ever Pro race
. 3 pole positions
. 5 podium finishes
. Competed part time in Star Mazda Series, Finished 5th
2004
. Champion - Skip Barber National Series
. Champion - Skip Barber Formula Dodge Southern Series
. Champion - Formula TR
2003 (first year in cars)
. Captured Skip Barber's Formula Dodge Eastern Series Championship
. 8 First Place finishes: Lime Rock, 5 times; Virginia; Mont Tremblant;
Cristoforro
. wrote:
> "Cristoforro" <cmf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1141684585.0...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > forty wrote:
> > > . wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > My denial is duly noted.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > LOL! Could it be that the infallible logic of the dot has failed? Has
> > the dot admitted that his assertion of Marco's greatness is indeed not
> > a fact? Well done, sir! That trap took a little while to set up, I see.
> > LMAO!
>
>
> ROTFLMAO!!!
>
> A primmer/refresher to those poor imbeciles for whom these
> concepts have obviously already proven to be far too difficult:
>
> Marco Andretti, so far (and all by the tender young age of 18):
And, out of idle curiosity, you've actually been to how many races to
watch Marco compete?
.
I, for one, couldn't possibly be any less interested
in, or concerned with, his idle curiosity.
Is there someone who is, or could be?
.
>
> . repeated his banal posting in his usual error and stupidity. And,
> thus, dot meekly surrenders. Again.
>
As with any stupid dog, he just can't help himself from humping that leg.
Cristoforro
Robert Lorenzini wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 23:41:19 -0600, . <> wrote:
> > Marco Andretti is kicking multiple-pole-winning, and former
>
> Marco got his ass kicked but good by Debbie Rahal's little
> boy last year.
It's rather funny that with all of the posts the dot has made so far,
he has not come up with any answer whatsover to the indisputable fact
that Marco was duly outpaced by Rahal in Star Mazda last year. All he
does is skip around it with the previous years' report card unwilling
to accept the fact that those set of grades weren't quite as good. It's
as if he thinks because had good results before and was shoe-horned
into Daddy's race team, they somehow negate those results that showed
that, given equal equipment, Rahal clearly demonstrated superior
driving skills in a statistically verifiable manner.
Cristoforro
. wrote:
> I, for one, couldn't possibly be any less interested
> in, or concerned with, his idle curiosity.
>
> Is there someone who is, or could be?
Well, then we shall conclude that you have not actually been to a race
to see Marco compete.
I saw him last year in Star Mazda at Sebring, Montreal, and Mosport and
in IPS at Watkins Glen. At Sebring, I thought Graham made quite a good
run whereas Marco was toying about in the midfield about 2 seconds off
Graham's pace. Marco looked in somewhat better form in Montreal, but so
did Graham. Both made rather strong runs, but Graham's was clearly
better. Graham had quite a good run at Mosport as well, keeping
pressure on the guys in front of him. Marco did OK, but was pretty well
behind and not putting anyone in any danger.
The IPS race at the Glen was a bit of a mixed bag. Marco made a
somewhat strong charge from 5th to 1st in the first few laps, but the
lead he gained shrunk towards the end of the race (choke? what???) and
he learned the hard way what not to do when leading a race and coming
up on lapped traffic. Not a huge error, just a little newb kinda
mistake. It only cost him the race with a few laps to go. :-/ Also,
considering the small field and lack of strong drivers in IPS, such a
feat wasn't much of an accomplishment. Star Mazda clearly had more
talent in its field.
But, you've never been to a race to watch Marco, so you couldn't relate
could you?
Cal Vanize
forty wrote:
> . wrote:
>
>> In all that bullshit ...
>
>
> In all your bullshit you failed to address how the supposedly superior
> Andretti was handily outpaced by the supposedly inferior Rahal in equal
> equipment. Thanks for playing.
I agree with the earlier assessment of Marco Andretti. He will follow
in the footsteps of John Andretti.
Mario was the only competitive Andretti and he ended up his career being
a whiner. Michael only followed closely in his father's footsteps in
the "whiner" part.
But in the meantime, he's driving for a third-rate team competing in a
fourth-rate series. The only reason he might be competitive is due to
the quality of his competition not whether he could drive a real race
car against real competition in a real racing series.
Cal Vanize
forty wrote:
> . wrote:
>
>>
>> My handlers duly note my medication levels and adjust according to the phase of the moon and the amount I post on newsgroups.
>>
>>
Cal Vanize
His handlers won't let it outside of the institution. The judge and the
phychiatric team can't put it under enough medication to allow it to
interact face-to-face with humans. So the dot can only communicate with
the outside world using limited newgroup access.
So your question is academic since it cannot leave the state mental
facility where its kept.
Cal Vanize
Cristoforro wrote:
It can't dispute it since it has a block against anything that tries to
dispute its assertions. Its part of the illusion it has built around
itself to self-deny the reason why its been sentenced to long term
mental treatment.
Cal Vanize
Cristoforro wrote:
> . wrote:
>
>
>>I, for one, couldn't possibly be any less interested
>>in, or concerned with, his idle curiosity.
>>
>>Is there someone who is, or could be?
>
>
>
> The IPS race at the Glen was a bit of a mixed bag. Marco made a
> somewhat strong charge from 5th to 1st in the first few laps, but the
> lead he gained shrunk towards the end of the race (choke? what???)
Andretti competitive genes coming out.
(The four most famous words in racing "Mario is slowing down!" or
"Michael is having trouble!")
.
> It's rather funny that with all of the posts the dot has made so far,
> he has not come up with any answer whatsover to the indisputable fact
> that Marco was duly outpaced by Rahal in Star Mazda last year. All he
> does is skip around it with the previous years' report card unwilling
> to accept the fact that those set of grades weren't quite as good. It's
> as if he thinks because had good results before and was shoe-horned
> into Daddy's race team, they somehow negate those results that showed
> that, given equal equipment, Rahal clearly demonstrated superior
> driving skills in a statistically verifiable manner.
One year, the rather average Danny Sullivan actually scored more
points over the entire season than did the former F1 World Champ,
CART Champ, USAC Champ, Daytona 500 and Indy 500 Champ,
the legendary multi series champion, Mario Andretti. Another year,
the quite mediocre Jimmy Vasser put up more points than did CART's
all time winningest driver, Michael Andretti. Did those performances put
either of the two on the same page, or even in the same book, as either
respective Andretti? Hardly! It's not even a close call, unless of course
one employs the "logic" of a few of the dolts in these newsgroups. To
date, how many championships, races, poles, track records, fastest
laps ... has Marco won (see the below for an approximation)? How
many for Graham (nowhere to be found because even combined,
they're nearly nonexistent)? Again, not a close call. And not even
Graham's own father trusts his lack of "skills and accomplishments"
sufficiently to place him in so much as a testing position on his very
own team. That fact alone speaks volumes and should tell any
competent reader all he really needs to know about the matter.
A primmer/refresher to those poor imbeciles for whom these
concepts have obviously already proven to be far too difficult:
Marco Andretti, so far (and all by the tender young age of 18):
2006
Allan Pagan
Looking specifically at the thread here in RASC, your unrestrained
obsessive behavior guarantees you are indeed that proverbial
leg-humping dog. Hump, dot, hump.
Cal Vanize
> leg-humping dot. Hump, dot, hump.
>
I fixed it for you.
Please don't insult helpless dogs by linking them to the dot.
Period
Cal Vanize
Period wrote:
> I saw them three times. It was like the man has a stutter...
>
Its not a stutter, its a phychosis.
Period
1. Trounced by Graham in the Star Series.
2. Given a job by daddy.
...Mighty impressive
Robert Lorenzini
> So lets sum up Marco's 2005 accomplishments :
>
> 1. Trounced by Graham in the Star Series.
Debbie Rahal's little boy no less. Too funny.
Bob
.
news:slrne0r9q...@localhost.localdomain...
Yawn
Cal Vanize
But because of the lack of qualified competition, he could finish in the
top 20 in each IRL race.
Pretty good considering the field will likely be under 15 most of the
time until the club folds mid-season.
forty
> Period wrote:
>
>> So lets sum up Marco's 2005 accomplishments :
>>
>> 1. Trounced by Graham in the Star Series.
>> 2. Given a job by daddy.
>>
>> ...Mighty impressive
>>
>
> But because of the lack of qualified competition, he could finish in the
> top 20 in each IRL race.
>
*except at Indy. There will be more cars at Indy, remember?
.
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Changed your bullshit story yet again have you? Could
this mean you won't be taking me up on my offer of a
wager and putting your money where your mouth is.
David Reininger
> Pretty good considering the field will likely be under 15 most of the
> time until the club folds mid-season.
Could you be more specific? I'm booking air for the entire season.
Got your Korea tickets yet?
forty
>> *except at Indy. There will be more cars at Indy, remember?
>>
>> --
>> There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
>> I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
>>
>> -Forty
>
>
> Changed your bullshit story yet again have you? Could
> this mean you won't be taking me up on my offer of a
> wager and putting your money where your mouth is.
>
>
If you have a seat down low, close to the wall at Indy, you can hear
that really loud WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH sound as the cars go by...
.
Your life story - No Guts, No Glory.
dse
wrote:
> So what does that say about Marco, when a driver who "can't land a
> full time testing
> position" beats him soundly in a development series, but yet Marco is
> gifted a ride with " the both defending Indy 500 and dominating, back
> to back, two time championship team".
>
>
> ...Nepotism?
>
>
One of my own quotes:
"We don't believe in nepotism, we just hire our relatives."
It has ALWAYS been who you know more so than your skill level.
DSE
dse
<forget...@nospamhere.au> wrote:
> Pretty good considering the field will likely be under 15 most of the
> time until the club folds mid-season.
>
Why will club fold mid season?
forty
Carey Akin
"David Reininger" <drei...@gmu.edu> wrote in message
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> Could you be more specific? I'm booking air for the entire season.
>
> Got your Korea tickets yet?
>
I heard that he changed his Honolulu tickets to Seoul for a minor fee.
Carey in Manvel
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lacking in the courage of his convictions
Fixed it for you.
forty
> Fixed it for you.
>
>
LOL! If one can't refute, then one must besmirch. Cute. Don't worry, if
someone's nice they'll explain the WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH part for you.
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lacking in the courage of his convictions
Fixed it for you, again.
If one can't take the heat ..., they truncate the remarks.
Cal Vanize
forty wrote:
> Cal Vanize wrote:
>
>> Period wrote:
>>
>>> So lets sum up Marco's 2005 accomplishments :
>>>
>>> 1. Trounced by Graham in the Star Series.
>>> 2. Given a job by daddy.
>>>
>>> ...Mighty impressive
>>>
>>
>> But because of the lack of qualified competition, he could finish in
>> the top 20 in each IRL race.
>>
>
> *except at Indy. There will be more cars at Indy, remember?
That's yet to be proven or supported by any reasonable source.
But if the field doesn't fill with 33 cars, he could finish in the top 33.
forty
--
There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
-Forty
forty
He could, but only if he finishes.
.
Cal Vanize
David Reininger wrote:
I'd get refundable tickets.
My travel to Korea this year won't include attending any races.
Cal Vanize
forty wrote:
> . wrote:
>
>>> *except at Indy. There will be more cars at Indy, remember?
>>>
>>> --
>>> There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
>>> I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
>>>
>>> -Forty
>>
>>
>>
>> Changed your bullshit story yet again have you? Could
>> this mean you won't be taking me up on my offer of a
>> wager and putting your money where your mouth is.
>>
>>
>
> If you have a seat down low, close to the wall at Indy, you can hear
> that really loud WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH sound as the car goes by...
Corrected it for you.
Cal Vanize
dse wrote:
Read the archives.
Sponsors leaving.
Teams folding.
Drivers leaving.
Fan interest at an all-time low,
Only one race will at least break even.
By mid season there will be such low interest in the IR Club that nobody
will show up at the races. Withough TG's money (that dried up), the
promoters won't be able to attract sponsors or sell tickets.
So there won't be any races.
The best thing that could happen would be if the club folded up right
after Indy so that open wheel could have a chance to unify before the
end of the year.
Cal Vanize
forty wrote:
> Cal Vanize wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> forty wrote:
>>
>>> Cal Vanize wrote:
>>>
>>>> Period wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So lets sum up Marco's 2005 accomplishments :
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Trounced by Graham in the Star Series.
>>>>> 2. Given a job by daddy.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Mighty impressive
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But because of the lack of qualified competition, he could finish in
>>>> the top 20 in each IRL race.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *except at Indy. There will be more cars at Indy, remember?
>>
>>
>>
>> That's yet to be proven or supported by any reasonable source.
>>
>> But if the field doesn't fill with 33 cars, he could finish in the top
>> 33.
>
>
> He could, but only if he finishes.
Meant to say he'd be awarded 33rd place. Unless a OWRS driver is ahead
of him. Then the OWRS driver would be moved back and the IR Club driver
moved ahead of him. That's an IRClub rule.
forty
your condition could improve.
--
There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
-Forty
.
David Reininger
> My travel to Korea this year won't include attending any races.
Go figure.
Cal Vanize
Its amazing what the proper dose of meds can do. But like the past, it
probably won't last more than just a few minutes.
dse
what are you gonna buy everybody when this DOESN'T happen?
DSE
scottscottscott
I'm surprised that the Andrettis haven't gotten a restraining order by
now.
.
news:1142273232....@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> Impressive, Dot.
>
> I'm surprised that the Andrettis haven't gotten a restraining order by
> now.
Why would they get a restraining order on you,
you're not even so much as on their radar. They
are neither aware of nor care that you're alive.
forty
--
There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
-Forty
Period
with Mario and get his autograph.
armpit
"Period" <hays...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The judge that issued the restraining order against dot got to meet
> with Mario and get his autograph.
>
Or was it Aldo??
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> lacking in the courage of his convictions
As INCREDIBLY unlikely as a phenomenon could be, he's
actually for once in his worthless existence got something right
(albeit a relatively easy guess but humiliating nonetheless given
the amount of time it took to finally make a connection that
wouldn't begin to confound a literate 10 year old). How truly
unfortunate for him though that instead of trying to pick a lottery
number, for instance, he instead wasted his one correct "guess"
on that which can't possibly do him the slightest bit of good.
.
news:4415d349$0$20109$834e...@reader.greatnowhere.com...
There could hardly exist more conclusive proof of your
dangerously insane condition than both your history and
your continuingly deluded replies. Please Scott, if not for
the sake of all humanity, at least consider the children
and seek immediate mental therapy
http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/scott/index.html
forty
Well, as I will very likely be officiating at an IRL race this year, my
existence would be quite relevant to the Andretti family since there is
a very real possibility that Marco's life could potentially end up in my
hands, whether it be warning him of upcoming danger or personally
helping him out of a wreck. In either case, he will most assuredly be
aware of me and my importance in his getting through the race safely.
armpit
"." <.@dot.com> wrote in message news:IjkRf.584$5F1.210@fed1read08...
I was making a joke referencing a discussion in another thread on RASI.
Sorry you missed it.
.
I would have forewarned you, an, at best, flunky, unpaid,
corner worker with delusions of grandeur, about posting
such menacing omens, but I'm afraid it's already far too
late for that type of beneficent caveat
In any case, you can rest assured in the certain knowledge
that your warnings have been forwarded to multiple parties
who, let's say, are certain to be more than a little interested
in what is clearly nothing short of a thinly veiled threat.
Cristoforro
. wrote:
> >
> > Well, as I will very likely be officiating at an IRL race this year, my
> > existence would be quite relevant to the Andretti family since there is
> > a very real possibility that Marco's life could potentially end up in my
> > hands, whether it be warning him of upcoming danger or personally
> > helping him out of a wreck. In either case, he will most assuredly be
> > aware of me and my importance in his getting through the race safely.
> > --
> > There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
> > I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
> >
> > -Forty
>
>
> I would have forewarned you, an, at best, flunky, unpaid,
> corner worker with delusions of grandeur, about posting
> such menacing omens, but I'm afraid it's already far too
> late for that type of beneficent caveat
>
> In any case, you can rest assured in the certain knowledge
> that your warnings have been forwarded to multiple parties
> who, let's say, are certain to be more than a little interested
> in what is clearly nothing short of a thinly veiled threat.
And thus the contemptable dot reveals its complete ignorance of race
officiating. Anyone with a single lick of sense about how things work
at races knows that officials on the track are the first line of
communication for drivers about track conditions and are responsible
for letting drivers know about what lies ahead. It is especially
idiotic that you would even hint at an official making 'menacing omens'
or 'veiled threats.' How you could possibly read something like that
into Forty's honest and realistic statement about what every driver
already knows is far below the realm of sanity. I've worked with him at
events, and he knows what's going on. He takes his responsibilities
towards the safety of the drivers extremely seriously and knows the
trust that's given him and every other F&C official, and in no way,
shape, or form would ever imply that he would play foul to that.
Go ahead and spew out your contentious bullshit. Forty, myself, and
anyone else who's ever actually been involved in a racing event knows
full well that no driver with his head screwed on straight shares your
skewed views.
So shut your fucking little mouth you arrogant, worthless fuckwit. You
have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Your inflamatory
idiocy shocks all people of good conscience who are involved in and
love racing.
.
news:1142294265....@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Yep, definitely struck a vulnerable nerve there, nothing quite
like the unvarnished truth to elicit even more rantings and
ravings of yet another pusillanimous, grandeur deluded lunatic.
Cristoforro
. wrote:
> <snip>
*plonk*
.
>
> . wrote:
>
> > <snip>
>
> *plonk*
One can only wonder just how many times he will again make
me that same, tired, repeated promise of employing that tactic.
Although unlikely, perhaps he'll eventually be able to actually
determine how to successfully accomplish that configuration.
His desire to do so isn't at all surprising though. Killfiles always
were for weak-kneed sisters who can neither tolerate opposing
viewpoints nor withstand effectual arguments, much too strong
and damaging to their own deservedly fragile egos, and more
than a mite reminiscent of the three hear no evil ... monkeys.
Then there's that egocentric need to inform each and every
disinterested newsgroup denizen of the entries in his killfile.
Perhaps he'd be so kind as to provide hourly updates, as
though anyone could care less. Doubtlessly such behavior
constitutes the very definition of self-centeredness run amuck.
In any case, those who cowardly bury their heads in the sand
are in fact the very ones who will be missing out, no one else.
forty
forty
>> Well, as I will very likely be officiating at an IRL race this year, my
>> existence would be quite relevant to the Andretti family since there is
>> a very real possibility that Marco's life could potentially end up in my
>> hands, whether it be warning him of upcoming danger or personally
>> helping him out of a wreck. In either case, he will most assuredly be
>> aware of me and my importance in his getting through the race safely.
>> --
>> There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
>> I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
>>
>> -Forty
>
>
> I would have forewarned you, an, at best, flunky, unpaid,
> corner worker with delusions of grandeur, about posting
> such menacing omens, but I'm afraid it's already far too
> late for that type of beneficent caveat
>
> In any case, you can rest assured in the certain knowledge
> that your warnings have been forwarded to multiple parties
> who, let's say, are certain to be more than a little interested
> in what is clearly nothing short of a thinly veiled threat.
>
>
LMOA. Omens? Warnings? Threats? ROTF! There was no such thing in what I
posted. The only omens, warnings, and/or threats were in your head.
If that wasn't funny enough, the big bad dot is going to show me a thing
or two and report this. LMFAO! Please pardon me for not shaking in my boots.
I suppose I should thank you, I haven't had this good a laugh in quite a
while.
--
There's a fine line between not listening and not caring.
I like to think that I walk that line every day of my life.
-Forty
P.S. - I'll be sure to say 'Hi' to Marco and Michael for you.
forty
> . wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>
> *plonk*
>
That was a little long in coming...
armpit
>. wrote:
>
> P.S. - I'll be sure to say 'Hi' to Marco and Michael for you.
What did the Andrettis ever do to you?
forty
that event. Last year the drivers, team mechanics, and engineers were a
blast to socialize with. Before practice we went down to the garage area
and they let us hop in the seats, crawl under the cars, and what-not. We
got to chat about the cars, setting up, and other race chit-chat. It was
a ton of fun.
All jesting aside, that Marco struck me as a fairly level-headed kid
who's doing quite a fine job honing his racecraft. He seemed pretty
honest about things he did right and things he could have done better.
Seems to have a few of his grandfather's qualities.
David Reininger
> Killfiles always
> were for weak-kneed sisters who can neither tolerate opposing
> viewpoints nor withstand effectual arguments, much too strong
> and damaging to their own deservedly fragile egos, and more
> than a mite reminiscent of the three hear no evil ... monkeys.
I always thought they were to ignore assholes.