In article <D3pE6p....@empros.com> chr...@empros.com (Chris Kulseth) writes: >From: chr...@empros.com (Chris Kulseth) >Subject: Stuck Rings >Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 22:52:01 GMT >I have an old Chevy 327 that has not run in over 10 years and I >would like to get another year of service out of it before it gets >rebuilt. But, it appears to have one or more stuck compression rings >as I am getting alot of blow-by out of the crankcase breather vent. >I am planning on dumping some CR-2 in the crankcase and running on >that for awhile to see if it will loosen them up. >Does anyone have any other ideas? >Thanks. >-- >Chris Kulseth Facility Code: PLY068 >Empros Systems International A Division of Siemens E&A, Inc. >2300 Berkshire Lane North email: ckuls...@empros.com >Plymouth, MN 55441-3694 voice:(612)553-4374 fax:(612)553-4018 >********* Standard Disclaimer With Expletives Deleted ***************
For engines that had set up and started to stick, we used to get them started and feed a quart of automatic transmission fluid through the carb, keeping the revs at about 2000 so that the engine doesn't die. Then we would leave it alone for about an hour or two, fire it back up and put it on the street.
I have an old Chevy 327 that has not run in over 10 years and I would like to get another year of service out of it before it gets rebuilt. But, it appears to have one or more stuck compression rings as I am getting alot of blow-by out of the crankcase breather vent.
I am planning on dumping some CR-2 in the crankcase and running on that for awhile to see if it will loosen them up.
Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks. -- Chris Kulseth Facility Code: PLY068 Empros Systems International A Division of Siemens E&A, Inc. 2300 Berkshire Lane North email: ckuls...@empros.com Plymouth, MN 55441-3694 voice:(612)553-4374 fax:(612)553-4018 ********* Standard Disclaimer With Expletives Deleted ***************
On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Billy Fields wrote: > For engines that had set up and started to stick, we used to get them started > and feed a quart of automatic transmission fluid through the carb, keeping the > revs at about 2000 so that the engine doesn't die. Then we would leave it > alone for about an hour or two, fire it back up and put it on the street.
> Try it, maybe it will work.
This is an old trick for burning carbon deposits off of combustion chambers, pistons, valves, ports, etc. and may work quite well for stuck rings, BUT please bear in mind that it can clog catalytic convertors permanently...caution is warranted on 1975+ cars...
In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.950209111819.13845F-100000@muttly>, Matt Shaw <ez053...@peseta.ucdavis.edu> writes:
|> On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Billy Fields wrote: |> |> > For engines that had set up and started to stick, we used to get them started |> > and feed a quart of automatic transmission fluid through the carb, keeping the |> > revs at about 2000 so that the engine doesn't die. Then we would leave it |> > alone for about an hour or two, fire it back up and put it on the street. |> >
|> Try Berryman Chemtool. It's availablr from many auto parts stores. It was developed to clean carbon from electric motor commutators, and will to a good job of de-carboning engines. Just raise the idle and trickle it in. It will pretty well trash the plugs though.
In article <1995Feb11.013156.193...@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> gbis...@violin.aix.calpoly.edu (Gordon B. Bishop (Gordon B. Bishop Gordon Bradley Bishop)) writes:
>From: gbis...@violin.aix.calpoly.edu (Gordon B. Bishop (Gordon B. Bishop Gordon Bradley Bishop)) >Subject: Re: Stuck Rings >Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 01:31:56 GMT >Billy Fields (bi...@cts.com) wrote: >: In article <D3pE6p....@empros.com> chr...@empros.com (Chris Kulseth) writes: >: >From: chr...@empros.com (Chris Kulseth) >: >Subject: Stuck Rings >: >Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 22:52:01 GMT >: >I have an old Chevy 327 that has not run in over 10 years and I >: >would like to *snip* >: For engines that had set up and started to stick, we used to get them started >: and feed a quart of automatic transmission fluid through the carb, keeping the >: revs at about 2000 so that the engine doesn't die. Then we would leave it >: alone for about an hour or two, fire it back up and put it on the street. >: Try it, maybe it will work. >: billy >I have heard of the ATF trick too but someone else said water works just >as well and won't foul the plugs If you try the Atf maybe just put in an >old set of plugs. Now you now why you've been saving those used spark plugs! > Gordon
I think that what happens mostly, when an engine sits up until it starts to stick, is that gas and oil residue in the cylinders and valve stems and other assorted places turns to a crude varnish and this is why ATF (very detergent) works so well. It disolves the varnish. Also, usually slight rust forms and the oil in ATF helps lubricate the rough spots. I don't think we are talking primarily about carbon fouling keeping the engine stiff. Although, if it is carbon that you want to remove from the combustion chambers, water works real good, as does a few other things. Some folks also recommend running a little diesel in the gas tank to clean carbon out of the chambers, it works but you can cook your engine real easy doing this. A friend of mine ruined his '56 Pontiac doing this. Never tried it myself...
You pays your money and you takes your pick..... and sometimes you win!
: >I have an old Chevy 327 that has not run in over 10 years and I : >would like to get another year of service out of it before it gets : >rebuilt. But, it appears to have one or more stuck compression rings : >as I am getting alot of blow-by out of the crankcase breather vent.
: >I am planning on dumping some CR-2 in the crankcase and running on : >that for awhile to see if it will loosen them up.
: >Does anyone have any other ideas?
: >Thanks. : >-- : >Chris Kulseth Facility Code: PLY068 : >Empros Systems International A Division of Siemens E&A, Inc. : >2300 Berkshire Lane North email: ckuls...@empros.com : >Plymouth, MN 55441-3694 voice:(612)553-4374 fax:(612)553-4018 : >********* Standard Disclaimer With Expletives Deleted ***************
: For engines that had set up and started to stick, we used to get them started : and feed a quart of automatic transmission fluid through the carb, keeping the : revs at about 2000 so that the engine doesn't die. Then we would leave it : alone for about an hour or two, fire it back up and put it on the street.
: Try it, maybe it will work.
: billy
I have heard of the ATF trick too but someone else said water works just as well and won't foul the plugs If you try the Atf maybe just put in an old set of plugs. Now you now why you've been saving those used spark plugs! Gordon
: : >I am planning on dumping some CR-2 in the crankcase and running on : : >that for awhile to see if it will loosen them up.
: : >Does anyone have any other ideas?
Try a quart of ATF in the crankcase. Drive ~ 100 miles and then change the oil. Do this a couple of times. I have had good luck with this for loosening up the rings. I have heard that Marvel Mystery oil works, too, but have not tried it myself.
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: > For engines that had set up and started to stick, we used to get them started : > and feed a quart of automatic transmission fluid through the carb, keeping the : > revs at about 2000 so that the engine doesn't die. Then we would leave it : > alone for about an hour or two, fire it back up and put it on the street. : > : > Try it, maybe it will work.
: This is an old trick for burning carbon deposits off of combustion : chambers, pistons, valves, ports, etc. and may work quite well for stuck : rings, BUT please bear in mind that it can clog catalytic convertors : permanently...caution is warranted on 1975+ cars...
This is also used to clean injectors, as described by a local dealer mechanic to achieve the same result as the expensive 'shop'job many pay for.
