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Basic flasher relay wiring

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hoo...@gmail.com

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Jan 11, 2008, 8:11:59 PM1/11/08
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Does anybody know how to wire a basic flasher relay from scratch?

Speedy Jim

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Jan 11, 2008, 8:16:11 PM1/11/08
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hoo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anybody know how to wire a basic flasher relay from scratch?


Go to this page of my web site:
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/htm/elec.htm

Click on: " 3-terminal 12V flasher, simplified wiring diagram."
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/schem/flash.gif


Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/

hoo...@gmail.com

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Jan 11, 2008, 8:37:02 PM1/11/08
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On Jan 11, 6:16 pm, Speedy Jim <volks_cl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
So this is a 3 pole relay. It looks to me like one pole gets constant
power, one is switched, and one goes to the lights. Can you elaborate
a little for me telling me which is which, and what relay I might need
to buy
Thanks

Speedy Jim

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Jan 11, 2008, 9:08:43 PM1/11/08
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hoo...@gmail.com wrote:


The relay shown is a VW part.
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D111%2D953%2D227%2DD

#49 is the 12V power.
#31 is a Ground.
#49a goes to the signal switch.


You can buy a generic flasher at an auto parts store.
These are thermal-operated and have 3 terminals marked:
X Power in.
L Load (signal switch)
P Pilot (for dash indicator)

Some only have 2 terminals, omitting the "P".

There is a helpful article here:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turn-signal1.htm
They are discussing the thermal flasher.
Internals here:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turn-signal2.htm


Jim

Veeduber

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Jan 11, 2008, 9:09:30 PM1/11/08
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On Jan 11, 5:11 pm, hoov...@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anybody know how to wire a basic flasher relay from scratch?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Basic flasher is pretty straight-forward, assuming it has its own
lamps. If you're trying to emulate (or repair) the flasher module
used on the early bug/bus (ie, the 'black box'), in which the flashers
shared a filament with the brakes, it's a bit more difficult (a couple
diodes are required). Best solution is to use Jim's schematic... and
to ADD a lamp to the tail-light fixture if you are dealing with an
early single-lamp design. (Be sure to match the flasher to the NUMBER
of bulbs you want to flash.)

-Bob Hoover

PS -- I've got the circuit board layout & schematic for the DIY
replacement for the 'black box' but its on 5" floppys... and I no
longer have a working machine that can read them... assuming they're
still good :-)

Speedy Jim

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Jan 11, 2008, 9:30:24 PM1/11/08
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Veeduber wrote:

> -Bob Hoover
>
> PS -- I've got the circuit board layout & schematic for the DIY
> replacement for the 'black box' but its on 5" floppys... and I no
> longer have a working machine that can read them... assuming they're
> still good :-)


I still have a 5 1/4" floppy drive for emergencies. :-)

Alas, no more 8" drives.
Here's a YouTube vid of an old 8" drive in operation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-5rKcwHZ4E

Jim

Jan Andersson

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Jan 11, 2008, 10:35:33 PM1/11/08
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I had an IBM computer with a 5" drive just a couple of years ago, before
moving down here :) It was fully functional but the hard drive boot
sector was corrupted. (It had a massive 10MB hard drive).
I was not able to find a 5" boot disk to fix the boot sector and get the
thing running. So I gutted the damn thing and meant to build a modern
pentium inside it. Some frame cutting would have been required. It had a
matching old skool CGA monitor too, which I was going to convert as
well. Sadly I had to abandon the project. I wanted to retain teh 5"
drive too just for kicks.

Jan

Michael Cecil

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Jan 11, 2008, 10:35:19 PM1/11/08
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:30:24 -0500, Speedy Jim <volks...@sbcglobal.net>
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Local Fry's still carries 8" floppies. Only $199 per 10.
--
Michael Cecil
http://macecil.googlepages.com/index.htm
http://macecil.googlepages.com/safehex.htm
http://macecil.googlepages.com/hackingvista.htm

Anthony W

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Jan 12, 2008, 3:01:03 AM1/12/08
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Jan Andersson wrote:

> I had an IBM computer with a 5" drive just a couple of years ago, before
> moving down here :) It was fully functional but the hard drive boot
> sector was corrupted. (It had a massive 10MB hard drive).
> I was not able to find a 5" boot disk to fix the boot sector and get the
> thing running. So I gutted the damn thing and meant to build a modern
> pentium inside it. Some frame cutting would have been required. It had a
> matching old skool CGA monitor too, which I was going to convert as
> well. Sadly I had to abandon the project. I wanted to retain teh 5"
> drive too just for kicks.
>
> Jan

I still have a complete and working XT clone that runs at the
astonishing speed of 10mhz but I haven't plugged it in for several years.

I also have a couple of the later 1.2m 5 1/4" floppy drives in case I
ever need one but I haven't needed one in more than a few years. I
might plug one in one of these days for shits and giggles and to see if
any of my stash of old disks are readable.

Some years back City Liquidators in Portland, OR had a pallet sized
crate of 8" floppies for free siting out front. Kids were tossing them
like Frisbees.

Tony

Kirk

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Jan 12, 2008, 9:00:13 AM1/12/08
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I still have my first working XT. It has a mamoth 10 MB HD too!
I also still have my old 8" disks from college. I thought they were 10"....
guess I would have to measure them... just eyeballed them.... but then, they
were "smaller" than my foot so maybe it was 10".

Gee, maybe I should wire one of my 12 to 120V converters into my bug and run
the computer at the next VW show..... I could tout it as a "computerized
bug"...
Of course, that green screened CRT would probably trip the breaker on the
converter.
KWW
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