2004 MSM
Hal
NA...
But I wanted to ask some other MSM owners a few questions...to start
off, have you had any problems? Mine has 52,000 miles on it, was a
lease vehicle so I think it was dealer maintained. The only thing I
have noted thus far is that the intake boot, the one that comes from
the intercooler and then makes the 90 degree bend into the throttle
body, was pulled back from the 'lip' on the throttle body. It was not
sitting flush with the throttle body case. It did not come off, but it
was not on all the way. I had to squeeze one of the spring clamps
below the throttle body, pull the whole elbow piece up a shade, and
then it pushed onto the throttle body no problem and I tightened the
clamp.
Idle quality...it's a bit rough, harshness-wise. It's rougher than the
1997 NA. anyway..is that normal? It holds the idle speed okay. Once
you get off idle and start driving it is smooth all the way....
The other thing I've noted, the turbo doesn't seem to come on until
about 3500-4000rpm, but once it does, it comes on -fast-. I mean at
WOT you're bouncing off the revlimiter before you can blink twice kind
of fast. But if you are a bit more...relaxed.....it comes on a little
more smoothly and you can hit 2nd without a problem...but then when
you go from 2nd, near redline, to 3rd...it almost feels like it sags a
little before it comes back on again...normal? This is my first turbo
car so I don't know....
Also..all these vacuum lines under the hood are maddening. Some go -
through- the strut brace, I see at least 4 solenoids, one or two one-
way valves, and under the intake above the alternator something that
looks like a dashpot...ugh. Add to that the tiny little lines that
connect from one place to another on the intake.....I'm in over my
head in terms of grasping the big picture. I've done clutches, timing
belts, water pumps, and so on. I did the water pump, all hoses, belts,
timing belt, CAS o-ring, and so on on the 1997....and it was pretty
easy all things considered, if not a bit time consuming. But I think I
need to buy the factory service manuals post-haste and start
reading...I have an idea this MSM thing is going to be a bit
maintenance intensive...
Chris
Lanny Chambers
<fba1009f-54e5-4807...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Hal <hal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have an idea this MSM thing is going to be a bit
> maintenance intensive...
Warning: stay away from the Flyin' Miata website. Especially this page:
http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept=68
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St. Louis, MO
'94C
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> In article
> <fba1009f-54e5-4807...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
> ,
> Hal <hal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an idea this MSM thing is going to be a bit maintenance
>> intensive...
>
> Warning: stay away from the Flyin' Miata website. Especially this
> page: http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept=68
Don't bother, those losers don't even offer a HUGE TAK!
BTW, anyone have the original ad with the HUGE TAK?
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Hal
> Warning: stay away from the Flyin' Miata website. Especially this page:http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept=68
>
> --
top-notch. In fact, some lady from FlyinMiata called me about 2 weeks
after my last order was delivered, and asked if everything was
okay...how's that for customer service.
I'd definitely use them again.....if I can scare up some more cash for
some more zoom-zoom. I already looked at the MSM upgrades and my
wallet is getting really nervous....
Chris
Lanny Chambers
<fab31067-7f70-496b...@v6g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
Hal <hal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I already looked at the MSM upgrades and my
> wallet is getting really nervous....
All hope abandon, ye who enter here.
:-)
Chris D'Agnolo
surprised and disappointed ;-) Sometimes you just don't realize what you've
got when you've got it!
Chris
99BBB NA all the way :-)
pws
> Pat surely saved the ad that included the HUGE TAK! If he didn't I'll be
> surprised and disappointed ;-) Sometimes you just don't realize what
> you've got when you've got it!
>
> Chris
> 99BBB NA all the way :-)
Unfortunately, I do not have the original ad saved with pictures, but
here are the highlights of that 1992 turbo Miata with all of the
original spelling and grammar errors.....
Highlights:
Huge Inter cooler
Wing (It help out with donw force around 160mph)
Runs like a camp
includes wheels, paint & tires
Has all recipes
HUGE TAK
EVER ONE LOOKS AT THE CAR AND POINTS!!! EVERONE LOVES HER!!!!!
"The car is FAST FAST ANF YUP FERIOUS!!!!! '"
car will go fast please NO low balls
This information is on Google for all to see, just type in, "Miata
Austin Huge Tak". It is pretty funny. :-)
Pat
pws
Please forgive the error, that was, of course, "HUGE TAK!" The
exclamation point is very necessary here.
Pat
Lanny Chambers
wrote:
> Huge Inter cooler
That's good. We wouldn't want our huge inter to get hot.
> Wing (It help out with donw force around 160mph)
Is Don W. one of John's relatives?
> Runs like a camp
Boot? Summer? Death?
> includes wheels, paint & tires
Pretty generous to let the paint go with the car.
> Has all recipes
This is how we justify the purchase to our wives.
> HUGE TAK
'Nuff said.
> car will go fast please NO low balls
Not with a 10-foot pole would I touch that.
Carbon
I've had my 2004 MSM for about a little over three years and have had
very little trouble with it. The battery sprung a leak and ruined the
plastic tray it sits on. Not that big a deal.
The only big issue I've had is that the stock 17" wheels are not
particularly durable--I knocked two of them out of round one day on a
road that was being resurfaced, so the manhole covers were sticking up
an inch or so. Based on a tip here I picked up a set of 16" Rota wheels.
They're inexpensive, and the Slipstreams I bought are more than 3 lbs
lighter than the stock 17" Racing Hart wheels. You can really notice the
difference in ride and general tossability. If your tires become
non-round I highly recommend these wheels.
pws
I have to give the seller some credit. This posting was well over a year
ago, maybe more than 2 years, and it is still good for a laugh or two.
What is kind of sad is that a lot of effort and some decent money went
into that Miata.
New wheels and removal of the wing, and it might have been a decent car.
One downside of the wing removal is that it would no longer have "donw"
force at that frequently-achieved speed of 160mph.
The engine compartment and the engine/turbo system was cleaner-looking
than mine has ever been while I have owned it. That Miata received a lot
of washing if nothing else.
Of course, the HUGE TAK! would have been left in place as the main
feature of the car.
Well, that, and the paint which he generously included rather than
sandblast the car..... ;-)
Pat
Tom
and about 75k miles. I have not had any problem with it other than
the wheels as was mentioned by someone else. I just had one of my
wheels straightened but next time I will just replace the set. I had
just bought tires this summer so I didn't want to have to start over.
I live near Mooresville NC so there are a lot of specialty shops
around here that work on cars. I did the complete exhaust system from
the header back and the complete intake system from FM and I love it!
Besides the much better sound, the performance is notably different.
I have not put it on a dyno but I am told it should be about 200
rwhp. The intake kit replaces that rubber elbow you mentioned, as
well as a much beefier blowoff valve. Mine vents to atmosphere so you
can definately hear it, some folks may not like that but FM has a
version that vents back to the intake. I still plan to replace the
intercooler with an FM version as the stock one is quite small, I've
been waiting for an excuse like a big rock in the fins or something...
The only issue I've had is to replace the shift boots but that is
normal for the age of the car. I like to drive the car on the
twisties and did an autocross once, but otherwise it is a daily driver
and I have not had any issues. I did try changing my transmission oil
to a Amsoil synthetic and had nothing but problems; notchy shifting,
etc. so I don't recommend using that brand. My previous Miata was a
'99 Sport which also had the limited slip differential but with a 5-
speed, and the shifting was much smoother than the 6-speed in the
MSM. The turbo does take a little getting used to, and the rpm/
redline you describe sounds normal to me. I was running up to the rev
limiter all the time when I first drove it, but you get used to it and
how to shift/accelerate quickly.
I think you will enjoy it once you get used to the difference. Some
people like the MSM, some do not. I'm sure you'll get other opinions
here, so take it all with a grain of salt and enjoy the ride!
Tom
'04 MSM
Chris D'Agnolo
One downside of the wing removal is that it would no longer have "donw"
force at that frequently-achieved speed of 160mph.
I'd like to correct his pour gramer, Ime shure he ment something mour like
this;
One donwside of the wing removal ........... ok, I'll stop!
Chris
99BBB