Putting a newer 2006 Wrangler 4cyl engine in a 1990 wrangler..
NewbieJeepGuy
transmission into my 1990 wrangler that was a 5 speed with a 4.2l 258
(which is dying)?
Thanks.
DougW
Possible, yes. Cost effective, probably not.
You also have to transplant the electronics (computers etc)
By the time your done the cost will probably be close to that
of a newer used Jeep or a swap-out to a compleatly different motor.
This guy put in a Ford 5.0 (302) engine
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2475749
More reading
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/yj_87_95_swap.htm
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DougW
Jeff Strickland
than to use a 4-banger to replace the 258.
One problem you will encounter is that your Jeep is an OBD I vehicle, and
your proposed power plant is OBD II -- where OBD is the computer that
orchestrates all of the stuff. You will have to acquire the OBD II computer
to go with the donor.
Smog rules in most states say that when the motor is transplanted, the donor
must be brought to the latest spec -- either the spec of the vehicle OR the
spec of the donor motor, whichever is newer. Your Jeep is a 1990. If you
wanted to drop in an older motor, you would have to make that motor comply
with the 1990 rules that apply to your Jeep. But since you want to use a
newer motor, then your Jeep has to be modified to the spec of the motor.
"NewbieJeepGuy" <ndi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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John
better gas mileage...it's not worth it. The loss of power far outweighs any
savings in gas you might realize. You will hate the 4 cylinder and wish you
never put it in...trust me. The 258 is a veritable workhorse for Jeeps.
Replace your old one with a rebuilt one.
"Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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NewbieJeepGuy
be wrong)... only have to pay $100 for the new engine/transmission,
wiring and computer as the guy spoke of earlier... Also I believe it
will have fuel injection which would be nice...
Probably a pain to mount in and get running though I'm sure.
Jeff Strickland
You will not like the 4 cylinder, especially if you ever have to drive on
the freeway. The fuel mileage is not enough better to cover the
dissapointment of less power.
"NewbieJeepGuy" <ndi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:BillH...@billhughes.com
"NewbieJeepGuy" <ndi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Earle Horton
know how to connect the 4 cylinder's computer and sensors into your 1990
vehicle's wiring system? How about its more modern and more complicated
fuel injection system? It would be a lot of work, just to make use of
spare parts that happen to be available. You could rebuild the 258 cid
engine for less trouble and less money. That's what I would do.
Cheers,
Earle
"NewbieJeepGuy" <ndi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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--
Earle Horton
The fuel injection requires a different fuel tank, pump and fuel lines.
I doubt that the TJ tank would fit your vehicle, so this would have to
be a custom installation. Unless you get the transfer case with that
transmission too, although they are similar there is a drive coupler
between the transmission and transfer case that certainly is different.
This part requires disassembly of the transfer case to replace. Your YJ
has a cable drive speedometer. The new engine requires an electronic
drive gizmo to make the vehicle speed sensor work. Motor mounts?
Hooking up the exhaust system? The details will kill you on a
transplant like this. I haven't even begun to list them.
A ring job and bearings on that 258, if you have moderate mechanical
skills and can follow directions, may not be so bad money wise. What is
the compression on your existing engine? You can rent a compression
tester at maybe Autozone or Taylor Rental. Look for equipment and tool
rental in the Yellow Pages. Is it burning oil? It might just be valve
stem seals.
Cheers,
Earle
Will Honea
I may be remembering this wrong, but I think that one potential problem will
be the drive shafts. As I remember from research while swapping out a
BA10/5, the AX5 used with the 4-banger is shorter than either the T4/5 or
AX15 by about an inch - enough to make the front shaft too long and the
rear one too short. Take a close look at that.
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Will Honea
Bill Spiliotopoulos
Although it is an awesome gearbox, it is also longer than other gearboxes
used in previous years.
As a result, you will need the front and rear driveshafts of the 2006 TJ,
and find a linkage for the transfer case.
Fitting the 2.4 lt engine would be a real task. You will definitely need
the computer (PCM), and the dashboard of the 2006 TJ, the fuel pump (inside
the tank) of the 2006 TJ,
the SKIS module and lock (immobilizer) unless you have access to a DRB-III
scan tool from a dealer and know how to disable all the unneeded gizmos.
I wouldn't want to get in this trouble, even if I was given money to do it.
It would really be easier to fit an other FI computer and reprogram it to
run the 2.4lt engine.
If you want fuel economy, and are willing to mess with a difficult engine
swap, you should consider putting a diesel engine in it instead.
This project would cost much more than what you are trying to save. Better
rebuild your current engine.
Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.
"NewbieJeepGuy" <ndi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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L.W. (Bill) Hughes III
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. now's it's back in 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com Navarre,
Florida: http://billhughes.com/temp/24wimp.jpg IP: 66.98.244.52 It doesn't
have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to
get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish,
where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other
kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote,
like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican
Chihuahua with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as
any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what porn is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: ab...@mchsi.com,
fr...@mchsi.com, fr...@4AX.COM, ab...@aioe.org, ad...@cox.net,
ab...@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a terrorist.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
Why don't you call my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department at
858-974-2020, maybe under the pretense of my CCW permit, they're waiting for
you. AS YOU NEED HELP!
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a faggot coward, always a faggot coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrep...@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email LWHug...@aol.com or
LWHu...@hughes.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) Hughes III
You're not fooling anyone, faggot! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
faggot.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, faggot writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
My service is well documented at: http://www.billhughes.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your faggot groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Come on out here little faggot and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.billhughes.com/map.htm
Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and your
pornography in an original post, coward
I should snip your incoherent, uncontrolled jealous senile babbling, so
as not to embarrass you again! NOT! :-)
24wimp, I'm still waiting for your real name and address like any man
would list. But then you're a coward. We notice you like signing a name
similar to mine, do you feel more like a man, do you get your jollies off???
"Dr.Neuraxis®" <D...@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
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>
> You have disappointed the world.
>
>
>
>
> I have failed again in my feeble attempt to make myself admirable unto the
World!
>
> L.W. "Cooyon
Billy" Goatman-Hughes III
Pink Freud©®
Y'know, Cooyon, I fail to see the linguistic similarity between 'Dr.
Neuraxis' and 'Llewdellen Williams Hughes III'.
Since you're such a literatus, mayhaps you could could explain -- in
simple terms, so we'll all understand.
>
>
> "Dr.Neuraxis®" <D...@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
> news:03onm39j0kgbm3gf6...@4ax.com...
>>
>> You have disappointed the world.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have failed again in my feeble attempt to make myself admirable unto
>> the
> World!
>>
>> L.W. "Cooyon
> Billy" Goatman-Hughes III
--
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor
does the truth become error because nobody will see it.
-Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
L.W. (Bill) Hughes III
jealous retard using Linux, I can't believe how jealous this little draft
dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrep...@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: intern...@shaw.ca,
secu...@shaw.ca, ab...@shaw.ca, interne...@sjrb.ca, ab...@aioe.org,
ad...@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their penis, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi0...@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
intrep...@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email LWHug...@aol.com or LWHu...@hughes.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) Hughes III
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, faggot writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
gibberish/babbling
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a
girlie, faggot writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
24.86.24.251 IP, wanta try for 24.80.200.127? <ROTFLMAO>
http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=whois&host=24.80.200.127
"The IP address from which you have visited register.com has been
temporarily blocked due to its association with excessive queries on our
system. Register.com has blocked this IP address in order to prevent any
adverse impact to our systems which could prevent other WHOIS requests from
being properly processed."
Hehehe, keep'em coming. :-) Maybe, a little more language, and
I should snip your incoherent, uncontrolled jealous senile babbling, so
as not to embarrass you again! NOT! :-)
would list. But then you're a But then you're a traitor, coward the loser.
"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-...@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
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Pink Freud©®
You lose.
>
>
> "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-...@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
> news:pan.2007.12.21....@trepanation.calm...
>>
>>
>>
>> Y'know, Cooyon, I fail to see the linguistic similarity between 'Dr.
>> Neuraxis' and 'Llewdellen Williams Hughes III'.
>>
>> Since you're such a literatus, mayhaps you could could explain -- in
>> simple terms, so we'll all understand.
>>
>>
>>
--
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III
"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-...@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.12.22....@trepanation.calm...
>
>
> You lose.
>
>
>
>
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email LWHug...@aol.com or
LWHu...@hughes.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) Hughes III
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
faggot.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
a girlie, faggot writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
My service is well documented at: http://www.billhughes.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your faggot groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Come on out here little faggot and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.billhughes.com/map.htm
pornography in an original post, coward
as not to embarrass you again! NOT! :-)
would list. But then you're a coward. We notice you like signing a name
similar to mine, do you feel more like a man, do you get your jollies off???
mailto:BillH...@billhughes.com
"Dr.Neuraxis®" <D...@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
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>
> Psychopaths and Relationships
> It is in this realm that the psychopath comes closest to the
> psychotic. While seemingly in full possession of his reasoning
> ability, by all the means of clinical psychology to test and assess
> them, the psychopath demonstrates an inability to comprehend the
> meaning and significance of his behavior for other people, and to
> judge their probable reactions to his behavior. He is often astounded
> to find that people are upset by his exploits.
>
>
L.W.(Bill) Hughes III
news:hc8pm35evp1alsa1k...@4ax.com...
>
>
> Often the narcissist will fraudulently claim to have qualifications or
> experience or affiliations or associations which they don't have or
> aren't entitled to. Belief in superiority, inflating their self-esteem
> to match that of senior or important people with whom they associate
> or identify, insisting on having the "top" professionals or being
> affiliated with the "best" institutions, but criticising the same
> people who disappoint them are also common features of narcissistic
> personality disorder.
>
>