Jeep Machine Gun Mounts
Brian French
http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/JeepToolsPage.html
ARMAMENT
No one comes close to the firepower of the LRDG and SAS is seen in this Pic.
These jeeps were always overloaded with supplies & equipment.
LRDG = Long Range Desert Group. SAS = Special Air Service. Both are 'special
forces' type units of the British Army.
M-48 Dash Mount
Machine Guns were sometimes mounted to the passenger side dash board.
This dash board mounting assembly was called the M-48 Dash Mount.
Usually the gun mounted on the M48 was the M-1919 .30cal air-cooled
machine gun, or a 30 caliber BAR Automatic Rifle.
Pedestal Mounts
Another mount was the Pedestal Mount in the center of the jeep. From
the very beginning of the MB/GPW jeeps, the jeep companies included a
special cross member under every jeep with a round support plate in the
center of the jeep. It's purpose was to anchor a Machine Gun Pedestal. Photo of
WWII Jeep Machine Gun Crossmember. There are 3 main versions of WWII Jeep
Pedestals that can be found.
#M25 Pedestal Mounts: The very earliest version, the M25 Mount, came
about when the rear pedestal mount from a armored scout car was
removed and installed on a jeep. These pedestals have a square bolt
pattern on a round base, and have 3 very tall reinforcements welded most of
the way up the tube. These reinforcements are not legs. Legs are
different. These were just a brace from the tube to the small flat plate the
tube
was welded to.
Photograph of M-25 Pedestal Mount as used on early WWII Jeeps
out of a Jeep.
Photograph of M-25 Pedestal Mount with Traveling Arm mounted in
a WWII G503 Jeep.
# M31 Pedestal Mounts: The next pedestal to evolve is commonly referred
to as the M-31 Pedestal Mount (although the army had different and
strange way of classifying mounts). This mount was also an early
mount. It was a tall tube without legs or tall reinforcements. It normally
came
with a 'Traveling Arm" to hold the gun facing forward when traveling
with it in an out of use state. Here is an original photograph of a real early
M-31 without a traveling arm mounted on an early slatgrill Willys
Jeep. It is shown with a M-1917 Water-cool .30 cal MG and cradle. A traveling
arm is not needed with a cradle.
#M31-C Pedestal Mounts: The last type is commonly referred to as the
M-31-C Pedestal Mount. This mount featured 3 long legs that stretched
out to act as braces welded 1/2 way up the tube. The braces were
needed when they started mounting the .50cal machine guns because the larger
caliber guns had a lot more kick back. The non-legged versions
allowed far too much sway to maintain any accuracy. The legs helped, but jeep
firepower was not about accuracy, it was intended more as suppressing
fire while ground infantry could flank the enemy position.
Photograph of M-31C Pedestal Mount Out of Jeep.
Photograph of M-31C Pedestal Mount with Traveling Arm mounted in
a WWII G503 Jeep.
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"Brian French" <brimi...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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L.W. Hughes III
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"Brian French" <brimi...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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Goat Crapp
attempting to steal your spot...
-Steve 98 TJ
Lon Stowell
Naw, the machine gun wouldn't be able to completely clean up
the spot unless you waste a lotta lead. What you want is one
of the US Infantry 1/4 ton jeeps with the recoilless rifle
and .50 aiming round.
DougW
Nothing says "shoo" like a hellfire missile.
--DougW--
Goat Crapp
"are you SURE you want to argue with me over the spot? (click click)
>
> Naw, the machine gun wouldn't be able to completely clean up
> the spot unless you waste a lotta lead. What you want is one
> of the US Infantry 1/4 ton jeeps with the recoilless rifle
> and .50 aiming round.
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-Steve 98 TJ
Jerry Slaughter
"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" <billh...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Isn't that a 90mm recoiless cannon?
Jerry S.
Lon Stowell
We called it a recoiless rifle, but thats it.
Sure aint no howitzer.
L.W. Hughes III
Brian French
>Date: 12/18/2002 3:12 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <3E010141...@cox.net>
> I like my howitzer, more better:
as well you should, except it's a recoiless rifle. the M38A1D had a specil
windshield, the driver's 1/2 was normal, but the passenger side had a big "U"
cut out of it. this way you could drive with the windshield up, and the gun
stowed protruding through the U-hole in the windshield.
fun eh?
brian
Brian French
>Date: 12/18/2002 6:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <3e012e9e$1...@corp.newsgroups.com>
>
>Damn, I was hoping there would be some links to order one!
ohh stuff is available, i sold all the mounts , cradles & dewat MG's for
years... till i had to get a real job. it's still out there... it just costs
about 3x what i was selling it for 5yrs ago.
what are you are looking for?
Brian French
>
>--DougW--
bahhahaha
that was sweet :)
Thomas Waldron
Brian French wrote:
> as well you should, except it's a recoiless rifle. the M38A1D had a specil
> windshield, the driver's 1/2 was normal, but the passenger side had a big "U"
> cut out of it. this way you could drive with the windshield up, and the gun
> stowed protruding through the U-hole in the windshield.
>
> fun eh?
> brian
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Brian French
LOL just think if it was called a "Y-U-A-hole"
that would be just wrong LOL