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Tegger

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Oct 21, 2009, 7:28:26 PM10/21/09
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Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg

This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

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Brian Smith

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:13:42 PM10/21/09
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Tegger wrote:
> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>
> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

I have never seen the need for a rear wiper on any vehicle. They are a
waste through and through.

M.A. Stewart

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Oct 22, 2009, 12:11:33 AM10/22/09
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You live in the land of vitamin K and Alpine, with it's climate, and you
think a rear wiper/washer system is a waste? I hate cars without rear
wiper/washers. They are not a waste... you have obviously never driven
a car with the system.


E. Meyer

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:54:52 AM10/22/09
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On 10/21/09 6:28 PM, in article Xns9CABC5FC...@208.90.168.18,
"Tegger" <inv...@invalid.inv> wrote:

> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>
> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

Don't know about the rear wiper, but Nissan is finally selling the Skyline
in the US. Its called the GT-R, has 480 horsepower out of a twin turbine V6
& costs about $85k US.

thomas

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Oct 22, 2009, 1:24:53 PM10/22/09
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"Brian Smith" <Hal...@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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Blimey - don't you drive ?


Tegger

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:47:32 PM10/22/09
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"E. Meyer" <epme...@gmail.com> wrote in
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I think it's pretty safe to say the GT-R will be a "niche" vehicle.

Brian Smith

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Oct 22, 2009, 7:53:08 PM10/22/09
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thomas wrote:
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> Blimey - don't you drive ?

I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the years.
Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of what is going
on around any vehicle.

Joe

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:46:20 PM10/22/09
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Please, do not drive near me.

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Brian Smith

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Oct 23, 2009, 4:46:51 AM10/23/09
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Joe wrote:
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> Please, do not drive near me.

Why are you dangerous?

Tegger

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Oct 23, 2009, 6:29:29 AM10/23/09
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Brian Smith <Hal...@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in news:hbrqe0$oo$1
@news.datemas.de:

> Joe wrote:
>>
>> Please, do not drive near me.
>
> Why are you dangerous?
>
>


HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.

And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
you've got them aimed wrongly.

E. Meyer

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Oct 23, 2009, 8:25:01 AM10/23/09
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On 10/22/09 6:47 PM, in article Xns9CACC938...@208.90.168.18,
"Tegger" <inv...@invalid.inv> wrote:

The one I've seen in a Nissan dealership was fenced off with velvet rope so
that it could not be approached or, God forbid, touched by prospective
customers. I'm kinda surprised Nissan didn't market it as an Infiniti in
the US. They, at least, wouldn't be afraid of customers actually touching
the car.

Grumpy AuContraire

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Oct 23, 2009, 3:28:35 PM10/23/09
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Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.

I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.

JT

Bob Jones

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Oct 23, 2009, 7:45:06 PM10/23/09
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"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grum...@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
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I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.


Tegger

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Oct 23, 2009, 7:56:54 PM10/23/09
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"E. Meyer" <epme...@gmail.com> wrote in
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>
>
>
> On 10/22/09 6:47 PM, in article Xns9CACC938...@208.90.168.18,
> "Tegger" <inv...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> "E. Meyer" <epme...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:C705CE5C.13342%epme...@gmail.com:
>>

>>>

>>> Don't know about the rear wiper, but Nissan is finally selling the
>>> Skyline in the US. Its called the GT-R, has 480 horsepower out of a
>>> twin turbine V6 & costs about $85k US.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think it's pretty safe to say the GT-R will be a "niche" vehicle.
>
> The one I've seen in a Nissan dealership was fenced off with velvet
> rope so that it could not be approached or, God forbid, touched by
> prospective customers. I'm kinda surprised Nissan didn't market it as
> an Infiniti in the US. They, at least, wouldn't be afraid of
> customers actually touching the car.
>

The velvet rope might have been an image thing, I guess. Makes the car seem
that much more desirable. Forbidden fruit, y'know.

Tegger

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Oct 23, 2009, 7:59:05 PM10/23/09
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"Bob Jones" <em...@me.not> wrote in
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You must not live in an area where the rear window gets dew or rain on it.

When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the rear
view the Integra's rear wiper gives.

Brian Smith

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Oct 23, 2009, 8:37:13 PM10/23/09
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Tegger wrote:
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> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.

That is a falsehood.

> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
> you've got them aimed wrongly.

There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side mirrors
aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view everything
from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have been driving
heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear view mirror (or
window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or smaller vehicles.

Brian Smith

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Oct 23, 2009, 8:40:06 PM10/23/09
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Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
> is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
> you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.

In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will show you
the vehicle approaching yours.

> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.

They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view behind
and to both sides of his vehicle.

Stewart

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Oct 23, 2009, 9:14:25 PM10/23/09
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"Brian Smith" <Hal...@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.


Tegger

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Oct 23, 2009, 9:36:21 PM10/23/09
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Brian Smith <Hal...@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
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Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.

For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
the surrounding traffic.

I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.

Brian Smith

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Oct 24, 2009, 7:29:10 AM10/24/09
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Tegger wrote:
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> Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
> view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.

I disagree on the first part of this paragraph and agree with the
second portion.

> For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
> out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
> this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
> the surrounding traffic.

If you adjust your right side mirror properly, you will see that you
are able to see properly.

> I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
> driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
> sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
> in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
> Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
> No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
> pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.

What you have described here is the proper (and legal) way to initiate
and safely complete a lane change. Congratulations, you are one a very
few drivers on the road that know how to do that one maneuver.

Brian Smith

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Oct 24, 2009, 7:31:01 AM10/24/09
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Stewart wrote:
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> I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.

I did say "have never had", I can't see a need in the future to look at
the rear window either.

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tww1491

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Oct 24, 2009, 12:00:33 PM10/24/09
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"Tegger" <inv...@invalid.inv> wrote in message
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Often wondered too. When I was stationed in Japan in 1967-69, the Skyline
2000 was a great sports sedan with a 2.0 liter SOHC I6 with a 5 speed. The
versions I recall came with the dual Solex copy of the Weber carb with a
dual exhaust. They ran like stink and handled. The car was originally made
by the Prince Motor Car Co which was bought out by Datsun (Nissan). I used
to autocross against them with a modified Sunbean Tiger in Tokyo Sports Car
Club. I have a picture somewhere of the Skyline back then with the hood
open.


Brian Smith

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Oct 24, 2009, 12:23:44 PM10/24/09
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
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> Are you saying that you never look in the rear view mirror to see what's
> happening directly behind you?

That is correct. There is no need to look out the rear window, if one
keeps their eyes moving taking in what is going on around their vehicle.
I've been doing it for forty years now and no incidents for well over
two and a half million miles.

> If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.

No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming long
before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)

> Not that you'll ever try this, but properly set mirrors mean you don't
> have to twist your neck around to see what's happening around you.
>
> If your side mirrors are set properly, you have zero blind spots.
> Everything that's happening around you, you can see by looking in the
> rear view mirror, or as the cars exit that and come up beside you you'll
> see them in the side mirror, or as the cars exit that and come further
> up beside you you'll see them in your peripheral vision.
>
> All without ever moving your head farther than over to your side mirrors.
>
> So in that regard, there's zero reason to twist around and plant your
> eyeballs directly outside a rear window, yes.
>
> But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
> mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
> there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?

But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep checking
their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
attention.

> That's fucking insane.

Untrue.

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Stewart

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Oct 24, 2009, 4:51:40 PM10/24/09
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"Brian Smith" <Hal...@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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Might as well do away with it.
>


Brian Smith

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Oct 24, 2009, 5:47:56 PM10/24/09
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Stewart wrote:
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> Might as well do away with it.

In the past I have taken the inside mirror out of the vehicle. Now I
use it to mount the E-Pass on it and because it has a thermometer in it.

News

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Oct 24, 2009, 5:51:07 PM10/24/09
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Ideal location for a 'Wink' or panoramic mirror.

Grumpy AuContraire

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Oct 24, 2009, 10:43:24 PM10/24/09
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My ancient automatic Civic has a rear wiper/washer that actually still
works but it's just something else that will break. I could well do
without either.

JT

Grumpy AuContraire

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Oct 24, 2009, 10:45:24 PM10/24/09
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What????

Her car is not under cover?????

You're livin' on dangerous ground...

<G>

JT

Tegger

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Oct 25, 2009, 9:13:06 AM10/25/09
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Grumpy AuContraire <Grum...@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
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> Tegger wrote:

>>
>> When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the
>> rear view the Integra's rear wiper gives.
>
>
> What????
>
> Her car is not under cover?????
>
> You're livin' on dangerous ground...

Oh, it IS undercover. It's cleverly disguised as a Toyota when it's really
a Tercel.


>
> <G>
>


Back at ya.

Stewart

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Oct 25, 2009, 8:13:58 PM10/25/09
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"Brian Smith" <Hal...@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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I meant the window.


Dillon Pyron

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Oct 25, 2009, 9:52:15 PM10/25/09
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Thus spake Brian Smith <Hal...@NovaScotia.Canada> :


See my reply in aah.

Unless you are craning all over the place, there is no way you can see
someone who', say 15 feet from your rear end. I'm not talking about
to use for backing, that's what the neck and rear window are for (oh,
wait, you don't have one), I'm talking about slow speed manuvering.

NASCAR cars don't have side mirrors.
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- dillon I am not invalid

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distract the guy enough to make the second one count"
-- Lazurus Long

Dillon Pyron

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Oct 25, 2009, 9:54:41 PM10/25/09
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Thus spake News <Ne...@Groups.Name> :

Man, those take some getting used to. Had one in the BMW I kind of
raced a couple of years back (thanks to some rule changes, "kind of"
is the operative phrase). It took me several hours of intense driving
to get past the sectional point of view they offer.

Brian Smith

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Oct 26, 2009, 6:07:48 AM10/26/09
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Stewart wrote:
>
> I meant the window.

Tinting it dark enough that one can't see in or out of it is the same
as removing the useless piece of glass.

News

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Oct 26, 2009, 6:56:07 AM10/26/09
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Not using it (as you claim) is rendering it useless.

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