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Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 25, 2011, 1:18:43 PM8/25/11
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hi there.
I recently bought a 95 Honda ballade(I'm from South Africa elsewhere
its called a civic)
1.5 16v carb.
I recently replaced the timing belt and noticed a vacuum line that
have been blanked off.
It is part of 3 branches. One comes from the air intake to the air-
filter, the other from the
distributor housing(I assume it to be the vacuum advance) and the
blanked off one. They all come join up and seem to enter the back of
the engine (possible the carb).
My question is that I would like to know what this blanked off line is
for. I see that
there is what looks like it could be a connection on the distributor
cap, but I'm not sure.
I didn't get an owners manual with the car, I was able to download one
online, but its
for International models and does not include the carb model and thus
I cannot
determine what to do with it. The car drives fine, but I would like
things to be working the way they were designed to.
Kind regards
JP

Tegger

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Aug 25, 2011, 2:16:17 PM8/25/11
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Juan-Pierre Herboth <jphe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:d91b5645-ba42-4c7b-
9cd4-3a6...@18g2000yqu.googlegroups.com:

Photos? We haven't had carbs on Hondas since 1990, so your setup may be
different from what we ever had.


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jim beam

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Aug 25, 2011, 10:13:07 PM8/25/11
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maybe the online usa versions dating back to 87 or older will show it.

here, the civic went injected in 88, but i understand that with other
markets, the technology only crept in slowly - for instance, in europe,
they kept carbs for a generation longer than us, then as we went from
throttle body injection to 4-point, they got the throttle body injection.

worth looking.


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Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 26, 2011, 12:08:00 AM8/26/11
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thanx,Ill try finding a manual to look.How does one load pictures on
here?

jim beam

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Aug 26, 2011, 12:38:39 AM8/26/11
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On 08/25/2011 09:08 PM, Juan-Pierre Herboth wrote:
> thanx,Ill try finding a manual to look.How does one load pictures on
> here?

you can't directly, but you can load them to a photo sharing site, then
post the links. tinypic.com works just fine.


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Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 26, 2011, 12:54:18 AM8/26/11
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thanx.Ill take some and let you guys have a look at this old
technology=)

Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 27, 2011, 1:34:38 PM8/27/11
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Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 27, 2011, 1:39:36 PM8/27/11
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I also noticed that I made a mistake.The vacuum line for the vacuum
advance is seperate,so the blanked off line is joined by the one from
the air intake and then into the whole 'manifold' of connections
joining up.

Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 27, 2011, 1:38:52 PM8/27/11
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Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 27, 2011, 1:52:47 PM8/27/11
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Hey guys.Looks like the previous links are buggy.Here is a link to the
album.Hope this works.
http://s1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa453/DeGhoul11/5th%20Gen%20Honda%20Civic/buggy.Here
is a link to the album.Hope this works.
http://s1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa453/DeGhoul11/5th%20Gen%20Honda%20Civic/

jim beam

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Aug 27, 2011, 2:11:52 PM8/27/11
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the one from the intake, i.e. north of the carb, is just vent not
vacuum. anything south of the carb is real vacuum. thus, i'd guess
that the blanked tube and the distributor cap nozzle are supposed to be
connected - in a lot of cars, the distributor cap is so vented to
[theoretically] reduce moisture condensation.

but don't take my word for it - find the manual. if you bought the
spark tube gaskets from your local dealer, try them and see if they will
let you look at their manuals or microfiche.


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jim beam

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Aug 27, 2011, 2:14:49 PM8/27/11
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your posts are really f-ed up. google groups for posting is a /really/
bad idea. download a /real/ newsreader, and sign up to one of the free
text-only newsgroup servers on the net so you don't keep on polluting
this group with multiline whateveritis. please.


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Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 27, 2011, 7:03:16 PM8/27/11
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thanx for the advice.Ill call the dealer and see what they have to
say.Im using my cellphone and using the Opera mini browser.I cant buy
any special reader or stuff so this is the best I can do.Sorry.

Tegger

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Aug 27, 2011, 9:57:59 PM8/27/11
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Juan-Pierre Herboth <jphe...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:c6e9641a-a032-4313...@d18g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> Hey guys.Looks like the previous links are buggy.Here is a link to the
> album.Hope this works.
> http://s1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa453/DeGhoul11/5th%20Gen%20Honda%2

> 0Civic/buggy.Here is a link to the album.Hope this works.
> http://s1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa453/DeGhoul11/5th%20Gen%20Honda%2
> 0Civic/


The vacuum line with the screw in it is for the air-cleaner heat-riser
valve. If you're in a warm climate, you can just remove that vacuum line
entirely and forget about it. Just make sure the riser valve is CLOSED
(look or feel inside the air-cleaner snorkel: should be clear through and
not blocked).
Notice the exposed pipe under the valve on the snorkel? That should go to a
heat-stove on the exhaust manifold, but the corrugated connecting pipe is
missing.

The supposed vacuum line on the distributor cap is just an air-vent. Leave
it alone.

The "vacuum line connects to branch" photo is taken from too close-in. I
cannot tell what's around it.

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Juan-Pierre Herboth

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Aug 28, 2011, 2:15:39 AM8/28/11
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@ tegger:Thanx for the help.Sorry about the pic being to close up.Will
take a better one.Regarding the corugated pipe, this is my 2nd Honda
and both had the same snorkel on the aircleaner and a similar pipe on
the exhaust manifold cover.I assumed that it could be for colder
climates to pre-heat the air.However on both Honda's thats missing.I
guess since we here in South Africa generally have weather never
goiing below 10 deg C that we dont make use of that.Thanx again

Tegger

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Aug 28, 2011, 2:38:34 PM8/28/11
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Juan-Pierre Herboth <jphe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7dde4e0a-caf6-4dd6-
bd98-bb8...@h6g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:

> Regarding the corugated pipe, this is my 2nd Honda
> and both had the same snorkel on the aircleaner and a similar pipe on
> the exhaust manifold cover.I assumed that it could be for colder
> climates to pre-heat the air.

That's correct. It's to help vaporize fuel in the carb when the temperature
is near or below freezing.

> However on both Honda's thats missing.I
> guess since we here in South Africa generally have weather never
> goiing below 10 deg C that we dont make use of that.Thanx again

Where you are, you don't need it.


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jim beam

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Aug 28, 2011, 3:53:04 PM8/28/11
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On 08/28/2011 11:38 AM, Tegger wrote:
> Juan-Pierre Herboth<jphe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7dde4e0a-caf6-4dd6-
> bd98-bb8...@h6g2000yqe.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Regarding the corugated pipe, this is my 2nd Honda
>> and both had the same snorkel on the aircleaner and a similar pipe on
>> the exhaust manifold cover.I assumed that it could be for colder
>> climates to pre-heat the air.
>
>
>
> That's correct. It's to help vaporize fuel in the carb when the temperature
> is near or below freezing.

nah, it's an icing thing. important in a moist cold climate.
/essential/ with ethanol fuels that contain their own moisture.


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>
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>> However on both Honda's thats missing.I
>> guess since we here in South Africa generally have weather never
>> goiing below 10 deg C that we dont make use of that.Thanx again
>
>
>
> Where you are, you don't need it.
>
>


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jim perry

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Nov 10, 2011, 10:13:31 AM11/10/11
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that line is supposed to be blanked off.
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