Need New Key, 2011 Fit

[Dan Wenz]

I've managed to lose, over a 7 month period, both keys, and wonder
whether a new key can be programed by the dealer with use of the vin# or
need to have the car towed to the dealer, who I'll be calling tomorrow,
Sep. 12.

[Dan Wenz]

On 9/12/2011 5:35 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> yikes.
>
> Ummm, the keys have to know how to talk to the immobilizer. Typically,
> when you get a new key, the dealer cuts it and then copies the
> immobilizer info over from the old key.
>
> If there's no old key to copy the immobilizer info from....yikes. In
> the past, they've claimed that you need a whole new computer. I doubt
> that's really true, but some dealerships will do that. If yours does,
> tell them to HOLD ON until you've gone to great lengths to confirm that
> (or not, hopefully).

Yikes indeed :-(

[Stewart]

"Dan Wenz" <djw...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:j4kqpc$77n$1...@dont-email.me...

You can get a key with the vin from a dealer...just be prepared to pay
a handsome sum.

[Tegger]

Dan Wenz <djw...@verizon.net> wrote in news:j4jkhd$7qg$2...@dont-email.me:

Can you find the Valet key? This one will allow the car to be started and
driven to the dealership.

The computer **DOES NOT** need to be replaced!

--
Tegger

[News]

On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<Xns9F5EC98...@208.90.168.18>,

> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key
> (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
> slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
> on your source.
>
> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
>
> This works even if you've lost both your keys.
>
> But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
> or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
> needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
>
> Thank goodness for the internet...


Care to share?

[Dan Wenz]

On 9/12/2011 7:45 PM, Stewart wrote:

>
> You can get a key with the vin from a dealer...just be prepared to pay
> a handsome sum.
>
>

I did, about $55, but in the absence of the car, the key will allow
entrance, but not start the engine. I will still need a tow.

[Dan Wenz]

That option wasn't mentioned by the parts guy, and I have no keys
available other than the new one(s) I bought a day ago from the Honda
service department, allowing access but not an engine start.

[Dan Wenz]

Absence, that is, from Honda's service dept.:-)

[Dan Wenz]

On 9/13/2011 5:37 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

>
> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.

The car's in my driveway, not at the dealer's!

[Douglas C. Neidermeyer]

Just wondering-- if the car is in your driveway, the key is laying
around the house someplace, no? And however did you manage to lose two
keys within a several month period?

--
Respectfully submitted,

Douglas C. Neidermeyer,
Sergeant-at-Arms

[Elmo P. Shagnasty]

In article <BNOdnWY6irF0p_LT...@speakeasy.net>,

from the notes I saved:

http://www.yesimauto.com/auto-makes/how_much_is_a_tentative_prius_smart_p
ush_button27.html

2007 Prius
Toyota part number 89071-47180, has the black Toyota logo on the back.
(Smart Key System keys have the silver label on the back, is part number
89994-47061.)
Mechanical key is Toyota part number 69515-47010
Beware buying keys off Ebay; online Toyota dealers sell them for around
$150

Ok folks THIS is really how you do this, and yes it really does work. I
bought three old keys on ebay anywhere from $23.52 to $50 even. Make
sure you have on your original key and have looked on the back for a
black toyota logo. This WILL NOT work for the smart keys with the SILVER
toyota logo. To get started go to ebay and find an auction for a black
logo key. Bid and win and when it gets there, follow these instructions
carefully.

The Fob (for operating the car)
This isn't hard, as long as your new fob is not broken and you are able
to follow simple directions. The whole process will take less than two
minutes.

1. Insert old fob into slot and remove it 4 times in a row, and insert
it a fifth time but leave it in there!
2. Open and close driver door 6 times.
3. Remove old fob from slot. Car is in fob programming mode at this
point.
4. Insert new fob and leave in the slot for a full minute. Watch the
blinking red anti-theft light on the dashboard. When it stops flashing
and goes dark, your new fob is all set.
5. Remove the new fob and you're done. You should test both fobs to be
sure they work properly.


Now for the door lock functions.


The Fob (for remotely unlocking/locking the doors)
1. Open the driver door with no fob in slot and the driver door unlocked
and opened. Other doors can be locked or unlocked, it doesn't matter.
2. Insert old fob into slot and remove it twice within 5 seconds.
3. Close and open driver door twice.
4. Insert and remove old fob once.
5. Close and open driver door twice again.
6. Insert old fob in slot and close door.
7. Without pressing the brake, press power button, wait a second, press
it again, wait a second, press it a third time to turn car back off.
8. Remove old fob from slot. You'll be in "add mode" at this point.
9. Car should lock and unlock doors TWICE to verify it is in add mode.
10. Press both buttons on new fob simultaneously for a second and a
half!.
11 Within 3 seconds, press only the lock symbol button. yes it does
matter which!
12. Car should respond with one quick lock/unlock to verify that the new
fob is all set. If the car responds with two lock/unlocks, that means it
didn't work. I don't know how to troubleshoot that problem. Maybe just
try again.
13. To end this programming, open a door or put fob in the slot.
14. Enjoy the savings from NOT buying a fob from the dealership!!!!!
15. If you want metal keys, DO not buy them from ebay, they quoted me
$7.92 CUT by them from dealer.


ALSO:

if you lose ALL YOUR KEYS, tow the vehicle to your local toyota dealer,
or a friend with the scan tool (preferred, heh) you will need your
license and a copy of the registration (so they say, heh) and they
obtain the six digit password from the vin number, enter it into the
scantool, and the scantool erases all the master keys, and allows the
dealer to enter in new keys.

make sure they connect the 12v battery to a charger/tender during the
reflashing sequence.

NO NEED to replace the computer!!!

[jim beam]

On 09/13/2011 01:07 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<BNOdnWY6irF0p_LT...@speakeasy.net>,

damn you to heck elmo - you're stealing food out of dealers' childrens'
mouths.


--
nomina rutrum rutrum

[Douglas C. Neidermeyer]

On 9/13/11 4:07 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<BNOdnWY6irF0p_LT...@speakeasy.net>,

That's some chicken dance!

I heard it works better though if you wear a torn blue t-shirt, a
two-color baseball cap, and spit tobacco juice out the driver's window
twice between steps four and five. Also, if you cough, sneeze, or fart
during the sequence, you have to start over.

[News]

There's a Honda dealer I'd like to starve. Have any other ideas?

[jim beam]

yeah. go to auto shop evening classes. that and buy the workshop
manual for your vehicle and a scan tool online, and you'll know just as
much as the underpaid kid working at the dealership does about fixing
cars. and you have the option of whether or not you're stoned at the
time. you don't get that option at the dealership based on some of the
work i've seen.

--
nomina rutrum rutrum

[jim beam]

On 09/13/2011 04:22 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<UvGdnY7xqY3rI_LT...@speakeasy.net>,

> jim beam<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>> NO NEED to replace the computer!!!
>>
>> damn you to heck elmo - you're stealing food out of dealers' childrens'
>> mouths.
>

> yeah, just like this one:
>
> http://www.imakenews.com/germainhondadublin/e_article002083766.cfm?x=b11,
> 0,w
>
> 10 years ago she was doing cutesy commercials with her daddy. She gets
> out of college back in May, and her daddy hands her the keys to the
> Honda dealership.

"As we relish in the excitement of this brand new product..."???

it's a pity daddy couldn't afford to send her to a school where she
would have learned grammar. still, she's cute, blonde, and if daddy
also gave her a brewery, she'd be on the way to the "australian ideal".

--
nomina rutrum rutrum

[News]

Hardly worth it for the key dance.

No, definitely not worth it.

[jim beam]

On 09/13/2011 05:13 PM, jim beam wrote:
> On 09/13/2011 04:22 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article<UvGdnY7xqY3rI_LT...@speakeasy.net>,
>> jim beam<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> NO NEED to replace the computer!!!
>>>
>>> damn you to heck elmo - you're stealing food out of dealers' childrens'
>>> mouths.
>>
>> yeah, just like this one:
>>
>> http://www.imakenews.com/germainhondadublin/e_article002083766.cfm?x=b11,
>> 0,w

forgot to say, if you post long links inside "< >" signs, you don't get
it broken by some newsreaders - like the above.

[do...@82.usenet.us.com]

Elmo P. Shagnasty <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key

I was at the Ford dealer the other day when the service writer, then a
tech, were doing the dance with some Ford truck.

It would start and die, but if you did a little dance, that I was too far
away to hear details of, it would run. Something goofy like turn on the
radio, start it, and turn off the radio before it died.

They were turning the ignition on and off multiple times, opening and
closing the driver door, consulting some papers that the tech had gone back
in to print out ...

Then they checked something else, and realized it didn't have the remote
something-something that they were trying to program even installed on the
vehicle.


Wouldn't the dance that you are describing allow a valet to program his own
spare key fob? I thought that was why you needed two keys present.


And the keys aren't the only dance cards.
I did some other magical incantation of seven steps so that my Honda Civic
would let me run the defroster mode without the A/C on.
To allow "Econ" to be used, the procedure above is exactly the same, but
you hold all 3 buttons in for step 4 until the Econ blinks.


Who thinks up this nonsense?

--
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

[Tegger]

jim beam <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
news:UvGdnY7xqY3rI_LT...@speakeasy.net:

>
> damn you to heck elmo - you're stealing food out of dealers'
> childrens' mouths.
>
>

Anyone can get the exact same info the dealer has, for the price of a $10
subscription to the automaker's Techinfo site.


--
Tegger

[billzz]

My wife lost the key to her car and I went to a little locksmith's shop (a nine by five hut,) just to get a recommendation, and he pulled a programmable key out of a chest, went to get the vehicle's VIN, then cut the key, programmed the chip and it worked. It was our Jeep, not our Honda, but maybe a private locksmith might be able to do it for you.

[tww1491]

"Dan Wenz" wrote in message news:j4o33t$qct$2...@dont-email.me...

Our local Honda tells me that an additional $80.00 is needed to program it
to start the car.

[GrumpyOne]

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<Xns9F5EC98...@208.90.168.18>,
> Tegger<inv...@example.com> wrote:
>

> I was poking around the other day, searching for how to replace a Prius
> key--and discovered the "dance" one can do to match up a new, unused key

> (it's actually an electronic box, not even a metal key, that goes in a
> slot) to the computer. New key cost is between $90 and $150, depending
> on your source.
>
> One could also ask the dealer to use his scantool to match the key up.
>
> This works even if you've lost both your keys.
>
> But--and this is a big but--some dealers, whether out out of ignorance
> or out of malicious profit-seeking, tell the customers that the computer
> needs replaced at a cost of $1500 for the whole job.
>
> Thank goodness for the internet...

A toggle switch maybe???

<G>

JT

[Tony Harding]

Well, better his than mine! Does owning a business give the owner a
license to steal?

[Meatman]

I know, I know...flamethrowers ready everyone. And I know it can get
thin on posts here sometimes for sure. But there's A LOT of
'different' boards right? Looking for a polite slap where I'm
wrong...BUT, 3 weeks of posts here on a Prius key prob on the Honda
board? Hell, I guess it's better than the spam posts about killing
all US diplomats, people of interest, and what their 'crimes' were...I
guess :-)

[Meatman]

All good. I was definitely seeing the 'forest' on that one...saying,
"effin' really?!!".