best OBD II scanner for 2003 Accord or newer Hondas

Guy

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Dec 22, 2009, 7:20:26 AM12/22/09

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I'm thinking of buying a scanner for my 2003 4cyl Accord LX but also
want to be able to use it on any newer Hondas I might buy. Any
recommendations for a non-mechanic ?

Also, on the 2003 Accord, where will this plug in? Thanks.

Seth

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Dec 22, 2009, 7:24:22 AM12/22/09

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"Guy" <vo...@void.com> wrote in message
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I'm using a ScanGaugeII. Little pricey for what it does as a OBD II
Scanner, but also can be left plugged in for real-time system monitoring.

Plug should be in the drivers side footwell tucked up under the dash. On my
2001 it is closest to the left kick-panel.

Stewart

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:57:05 AM12/23/09

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"Guy" <vo...@void.com> wrote in message
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I wonder why they just don't put a USB interface in the cars already,
then distribute a program that would read the codes and dive directly
into the troubleshooting of the code based on the car ID.

jim beam

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:21:35 AM12/23/09

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car manufacturers fought a common obd standard tooth and nail. its
existence is one of the few instances where government actually got it
right and could see that fully proprietary coding would be the ultimate
in lock-in device and end up costing the consumer up the wazoo. it
would also put all the independent repair shops out of business
overnight, which is ultimately why we have what we have today.

but the car manufacturers still don't like it. the intent of obd has
been diluted with all the tier two codes, the "proprietary" codes, which
are completely inconsistent. iow, manufacturers, with constant lobbying
and back-door influence, want to make it difficult and more expensive
for a mom & pop garage to exist, and keep the vehicle coming back to the
dealer. you can expect that trend to continue - the nature of politics,
influence and business interests being what they are, a fully
"universal", accessible-by-anyone software interface will simply never
exist.

E. Meyer

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:09:52 PM12/23/09

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On 12/23/09 9:57 AM, in article hgtekh$pmm$1...@news.eternal-september.org,
"Stewart" <gort...@gmail.com> wrote:

I suspect the reason is that they don't WANT a widely distributed program
out there that can do that.

AZ Nomad

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:26:15 PM12/23/09

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It is the same reason they don't include shop manuals or free lifetime
maintainance with every car. They have no motivation to do so.

Jim Yanik

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Dec 23, 2009, 7:11:50 PM12/23/09

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"E. Meyer" <e.p....@verizon.net> wrote in
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Google and you will find programs and interface cables to allow your laptop
to read the OBD-II codes.They aren't free,however.

for starters; http://www.thinkythings.org/obdii/

it has links to some commercial products.

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Jim Yanik
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Stewart

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:43:26 AM12/24/09

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"AZ Nomad" <azno...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
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Maybe it will require an act of congress.....

jim beam

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Dec 26, 2009, 2:36:37 PM12/26/09

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Jim Yanik

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Dec 26, 2009, 6:45:27 PM12/26/09

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jim beam <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:jfmdnQ3Ai81Y-
KvWnZ2dnU...@speakeasy.net:

Just wait until integrated console controls become widespread.
Where a LCD display,touchscreen and microprocessor controls your dash,your
radio,heater,AC,NAV system.etc.
strictly company specific(custom),and once it's out of
production;irreplacable and the death of your car.

Planned obsolesence.