problem with handsfree on new Accord

[JRStern]

INCOMING CALLS don't work - the answer function does not respond.

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OK, my *car* is new 2013, but my phone is antique (about three years
old, I think), an LG VX8360. I think - no model number on the phone
itself! I have the original instruction book, I think.

http://www.handsfreelink.com/hondana/index.php

It is not listed as "compatible" on this site.

http://www.handsfreelink.com/hondana/index.php?waiting=&ringtones=&phonebook=&callhistory=&btaudio=&smsreply=&smsread=&smsnotification=&songinfo=&emailreply=&emailread=&emailnotification=&pandora_bt=&pandora_usb=&aha_usb=&batterylevel=&callerid=&signal=&roaming=&submit=&do=phones&model=Accord
Sedan&years=2013&vehicle_id=811&manufacturer=105&carrier=&searchtype=manufacturer&archive=&start=0


(the phone model *is* listed as compatible for the 2011 CRZ!)


When I bought the car, the sales rep helped me pair the phone, we
tried an outgoing call, and that worked.

I assumed I was home free. Of course it hasn't worked out that way.

INCOMING CALLS don't work - the answer function does not respond.

(I think it might work if I press Answer on the phone, haven't tried
that yet)

Any other suggestions?

Maybe a secret setting on the phone? My old LG had some kind of
auto-answer setting (whatever it did), but I can't even find that on
the new one.

Any place to feedback to Verizon, LG, or Honda about such issues?

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OK so I'm a primitive, this is the first time I've tried to make this
work with a cell phone and a car!

Thanks,

J.

ps - as to the car itself, I'm really liking it, a lot smoother than
the previous model.

[JRStern]

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:01:59 -0700, JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>
wrote:

>INCOMING CALLS don't work - the answer function does not respond.

Aha, I finally found the Tools/Call Settings/Auto Answer w Handsfree.

I don't really want auto-answer, but maybe it will help?

Also found this site to ask Honda:
http://automobiles.honda.com/handsfreelink/support.aspx

Will try ASAP, tomorrow.

J.

[tlvp]

Unless you're doing this so a *passenger" can answer, give it up: you'll
never really be answering a phone and driving at the same time -- you'll
either be driving, or answering the phone and not really driving at all
(just going through the motions of driving, attention all elsewhere).

HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

[dgk]

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 02:46:46 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB...@att.net>

wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:24:57 -0700, JRStern wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:01:59 -0700, JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>INCOMING CALLS don't work - the answer function does not respond.
>>
>> Aha, I finally found the Tools/Call Settings/Auto Answer w Handsfree.
>>
>> I don't really want auto-answer, but maybe it will help?
>>
>> Also found this site to ask Honda:
>> http://automobiles.honda.com/handsfreelink/support.aspx
>>
>> Will try ASAP, tomorrow.
>>
>> J.
>
>Unless you're doing this so a *passenger" can answer, give it up: you'll
>never really be answering a phone and driving at the same time -- you'll
>either be driving, or answering the phone and not really driving at all
>(just going through the motions of driving, attention all elsewhere).
>
>HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp

There IS something about being on a phone which is just different than
having a conversation with a passenger or listening to the radio. I
figure that maybe it has something to do with a passenger knowing when
you need to concentrate on driving and they shut up while a caller
just keeps talking and your attention is divided.

I sure try not to use the phone when I'm driving but it is hard to
just ignore calls.

[Justin]

Whether hands-free or not, there are several studies that show talking on
the phone while driving is the same as driving while drunk

[cameo]

On 10/15/2012 5:16 AM, dgk wrote:
> There IS something about being on a phone which is just different than
> having a conversation with a passenger or listening to the radio. I
> figure that maybe it has something to do with a passenger knowing when
> you need to concentrate on driving and they shut up while a caller
> just keeps talking and your attention is divided.
>
> I sure try not to use the phone when I'm driving but it is hard to
> just ignore calls.

To a large extent it depends on the traffic situation. Driving on busy
street is quite different from driving in a calm freway traffic. Leaving
decent distance after a car, instead of tailgating, is also a major
factor. Many accidentt are caused by taigaters.

[Richard B. Gilbert]

If my phone rings while I'm driving, I will either hand the phone to my
wife or pull over to the side of the road and stop. Since I hit
retirement age, I don't get very many phone calls on my mobile phone!

While I was working I would pull over to the right side with blinkers on
and either answer my phone or, my page.

One evening, I was driving home from the roller skating, my pager went
off just as I turned onto the On-Ramp. If that wasn't enough, a police
patrol car pulled up behind me at the bottom of the on-ramp and wanted
to know if I had a problem. Thanks officer, I now have two problems. <sigh>

[Paul Miner]

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:21:04 -0400, "Richard B. Gilbert"
<rgilb...@comcast.net> wrote:

>One evening, I was driving home from the roller skating, my pager went
>off just as I turned onto the On-Ramp. If that wasn't enough, a police
>patrol car pulled up behind me at the bottom of the on-ramp and wanted
>to know if I had a problem. Thanks officer, I now have two problems. <sigh>

Did the officer let you go when you mentioned you were talking to your
travel agent? I hear that sometimes works.

--
Paul Miner

[Justin]

I'd assumed he had lost his buggy whip and was looking for a switch

[JRStern]

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 02:46:46 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB...@att.net>

wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:24:57 -0700, JRStern wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 19:01:59 -0700, JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>INCOMING CALLS don't work - the answer function does not respond.
>>
>> Aha, I finally found the Tools/Call Settings/Auto Answer w Handsfree.
>>
>> I don't really want auto-answer, but maybe it will help?
>>
>> Also found this site to ask Honda:
>> http://automobiles.honda.com/handsfreelink/support.aspx
>>
>> Will try ASAP, tomorrow.
>>
>> J.
>
>Unless you're doing this so a *passenger" can answer, give it up: you'll
>never really be answering a phone and driving at the same time -- you'll
>either be driving, or answering the phone and not really driving at all
>(just going through the motions of driving, attention all elsewhere).
>
>HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp

At least with the hands-free it's legal.

I agree with all the negatives, but sometimes you want to receive or
make a quick call when you're running late, that sort of thing.

J.

[Tegger]

JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in
news:irsm78dpjdiqk3gb6...@4ax.com:

> Also found this site to ask Honda:
> http://automobiles.honda.com/handsfreelink/support.aspx
>
> Will try ASAP, tomorrow.
>

So...? What happened?

I've found that, generally speaking, if a phone is not considered by
Honda's HandsFreeLink to be /fully-compatible/ with your car, you'll have
problems of one kind or another.


--
Tegger

[JRStern]

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:03:59 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <XnsA0EDCAF5...@208.90.168.18>,

> Tegger <inv...@example.com> wrote:
>
>> I've found that, generally speaking, if a phone is not considered by
>> Honda's HandsFreeLink to be /fully-compatible/ with your car, you'll have
>> problems of one kind or another.
>

>Agreed 100%.

Drove around but didn't arrange to try it, and didn't get any
unexpected calls.

Did get a message back from Honda basically saying hey if it's not on
the list try one that is, have a nice day.

This being the LG list:
http://www.handsfreelink.com/hondana/index.php?waiting=&ringtones=&phonebook=&callhistory=&btaudio=&smsreply=&smsread=&smsnotification=&songinfo=&emailreply=&emailread=&emailnotification=&pandora_bt=&pandora_usb=&aha_usb=&batterylevel=&callerid=&signal=&roaming=&submit=&do=phones&model=Accord
Sedan&years=2013&vehicle_id=811&manufacturer=105&carrier=&searchtype=manufacturer&archive=&start=15

I'll post back when I've fiddled with it some more.

I mean seriously, they have to try out their car with eleventy-million
different phones? Maybe the dealer should spend a few extra moments
on that, pre-sales or post-sales. Maybe I can see why they wouldn't.

About what I expected, have to upgrade my phone to go with the car!
May be about to upgrade the phone anyhow, my phones tend to run older
than my cars!

Thanks,

J.

[hachiroku]

You would think with a phone like that it would be in the code. That was a
fairly popular phone; Verizon gave them away to Unicel people when they
took it over, since Unicel used GSM. The ONE complaint I had was when it
dropped a call the <WEENCE> in your ear could deafen you! The reason I
dropped it was because I coukdn't do ANYTHING while on a call but talk. If
I had to look up a number or view a calendar I had to hang up. Not good
for me. Other than that I liked the phone.

I didn't have any troubles pairing it with any of my BlueTooth accessories.

Get something on eBay. My current phone is a BlackBerry World Edition 8830
I got for a whopping $6. That paired with a Yaris I was given as a loaner
no probs.

[hachiroku]

Shoot, you guys, I talk all the time when driving...I HAVE to or I'll
never get any work done.

I also have my phone mounted on the dash, line of sight to the road, so I
rarely have to take my eyes off the road when calling. It's not much worse
than talking to a passenger in the car. And if you get voice dial to work
there's no problems. Just make sure it doesn't dial "Ball and chain" when
you say "Girlfriend"...

[Tegger]

JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in
news:71fp78lb53k33rted...@4ax.com:

>
> I mean seriously, they have to try out their car with eleventy-million
> different phones?

Apparently that is /exactly/ what they do.

> Maybe the dealer should spend a few extra moments
> on that, pre-sales or post-sales.

You'd think they'd know to do that, but I think most dealers don't know
much beyond getting your signature on the bottom line.




--
Tegger

[tlvp]

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:16:26 -0400, dgk wrote:

> ... I sure try not to use the phone when I'm driving but it is hard to
> just ignore calls.

My self-preservation instinct makes it easier for me to ignore the calls
than to ignore the road. Much easier. Of course, YMMV :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

[Todd Allcock]

At 16 Oct 2012 03:57:51 -0400 tlvp wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:16:26 -0400, dgk wrote:
>
> > ... I sure try not to use the phone when I'm driving but it is hard to
> > just ignore calls.
>
> My self-preservation instinct makes it easier for me to ignore the calls
> than to ignore the road. Much easier. Of course, YMMV :-) . Cheers, --
tlvp

A better self-preservation instinct would keep you off the roads in the
first place! ;)

[JRStern]

No, the handsfree auto answer doesn't work either, at least not by
itself.

I still need to fiddle around, but even without the handsfree,
actually clicking an answer key on the phone seems to connect, and
then pressing the speaker key ON THE PHONE eventually seems to
transfer the audio to the handsfree, and pressing the end key ON THE
PHONE seems to end the call properly. I think.

Also, if trying to answer from the handsfree doesn't work and ends up
locking out the radio, MAKING a call from the phone seems to clear it
out.

I probably will be upgrading the phone shortly anyway, but geez what
an irritation this is right now. My sympathies to Honda for having to
test against every phone.

J.

ps - btw, this LG VX8360 is kind of a pain to use even all by itself,
always popping up messages about missed or waiting calls and refusing
to respond to the speaker key or other commands if it's in some odd
mode or other.

But then, I don't think I've ever seen a cell phone I thought was well
designed, for like human beings to talk on. Human interface design is
just totally a lost art.


On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:53:02 -0700, JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>
wrote:

[tlvp]

On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:03:43 -0600, Todd Allcock wrote:

> A better self-preservation instinct would keep you off the roads in the
> first place! ;)

Don't laugh ... most days of the week it *does* :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp

[Paul Miner]

On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:19:08 -0700, JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>
wrote:

>But then, I don't think I've ever seen a cell phone I thought was well
>designed, for like human beings to talk on. Human interface design is
>just totally a lost art.

As I understand it, most people don't use their cell phones for voice
conversations anymore, so the prospects for better voice access may be
bleak.

--
Paul Miner

[AaronL]

Paul Miner <pmi...@elrancho.invalid> wrote:

JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>wrote:

>> I don't think I've ever seen a cell phone I thought was well
>>designed, for like human beings to talk on. Human interface design is
>>just totally a lost art.

For smartphones it's hard to make a readable screen that fits nicely
in your hand and pocket both. For regular cell phones size still
matters. Those old brick phones used to fit nicely in my hand but not
so much in my pocket...

>As I understand it, most people don't use their cell phones for voice
>conversations anymore, so the prospects for better voice access may be
>bleak.

And if driving while chatting ain't enough, some devices will now read
your texts (including acronyms) to you.

[JRStern]

On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:19:02 -0700, AaronL <56987...@fakeemail.com>
wrote:

>Paul Miner <pmi...@elrancho.invalid> wrote:
>
> JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>wrote:
>
>>> I don't think I've ever seen a cell phone I thought was well
>>>designed, for like human beings to talk on. Human interface design is
>>>just totally a lost art.
>
>For smartphones it's hard to make a readable screen that fits nicely
>in your hand and pocket both. For regular cell phones size still
>matters. Those old brick phones used to fit nicely in my hand but not
>so much in my pocket...

Well it's OT to get into in great depth here, but anything that starts
by holding a video screen to your ear, is pretty bent.

But even some little stuff, like button size and placement, and on my
dumb phone messages that don't pop up at just the wrong time, would be
a good start.

J.

[AaronL]

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <rf6s78dg1069hou68...@4ax.com>,

> JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:

>>anything that starts
>> by holding a video screen to your ear, is pretty bent.
>

>http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8264/ipadx.jpg

That link's good. And those new big screen phones are not far removed
from that. I still like the smaller 3.5" screen phone I have and hope
they keep at least some of the new phones in that size. I used to
carry my Palm Pilot and mp3 player around. Now that's all in one small
package that surfs the internet and makes calls too. IMO that's
progress even if I do have to hold the screen up to my ear... 8-O

[hachiroku]

On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:44:18 -0400, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <rf6s78dg1069hou68...@4ax.com>,
> JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>

>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:19:02 -0700, AaronL <56987...@fakeemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Paul Miner <pmi...@elrancho.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid>wrote:
>> >
>> >>> I don't think I've ever seen a cell phone I thought was well
>> >>>designed, for like human beings to talk on. Human interface design is
>> >>>just totally a lost art.
>> >
>> >For smartphones it's hard to make a readable screen that fits nicely
>> >in your hand and pocket both. For regular cell phones size still
>> >matters. Those old brick phones used to fit nicely in my hand but not
>> >so much in my pocket...
>>
>> Well it's OT to get into in great depth here, but anything that starts
>> by holding a video screen to your ear, is pretty bent.
>

> http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8264/ipadx.jpg

<SNERK!>