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climber

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Apr 14, 2010, 7:38:14 PM4/14/10
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On Apr 14, 11:59 am, aw...@blackhole.nyx.net (arthur wouk) wrote:
> Driving While Demented
>
> By PAULA SPAN
>
> You might hope that when the American Academy of Neurology
> reviews and updates its decade-old guidelines on driving and
> dementia, the experts would come up with clear-cut
> recommendations: a specific score on a specific test means
> someone can head for the mall without much concern, or a
> particular behavior means it's too risky to be on the road, so
> hand over the keys.
>
> You might hope that, but on Monday, when an academy subcommittee
> presented its report at an annual meeting in Toronto, its
> findings demonstrated once more how complicated this question can
> be.
>
> The report (here's a news release that summarizes it) was
> systematic and thorough, analyzing 422 good-quality studies in an
> attempt to figure out how neurologists should handle this issue
> with their patients.  And the findings tells us a lot about what
> experts still can't (or won't) say with authority.
>
> Take the question of whether people with mild dementia -- not
> just older drivers in general -- should be behind the wheel at
> all. "Clinicians may present patients and their caregivers with
> the data showing that, as a group, patients with mild dementia .
> . . are at a substantially higher risk for unsafe driving, and
> thus should strongly consider discontinuing driving," the report
> suggested.
>
> Yet it also noted that several studies had shown that a
> considerable number of those with mild dementia -- 41 percent to
> 76 percent, depending on the study -- could pass an on-road
> driving test. Given that, in many parts of the country, not being
> able to drive can lead to isolation and a host of other real
> problems, should those people have to give up their cars?
>
> "We don't have a blood-alcohol level for dementia," Dr. Gary
> Kennedy, director of geriatric psychiatry at Montefiore Medical
> Center in New York, said in an interview. "We don't have that
> kind of standard." But just as drivers who drink show some
> impairment, dementia accelerates the risks older drivers face
> from declining vision, hearing and reaction time, he pointed out.
>
> In fact, the American Association for Geriatric Psychiatry, of
> which Dr.  Kennedy is a past president, uses a stricter standard:
> "Our recommendation is that you stop driving once you have a
> dementia diagnosis."
>
> Less formally, he relies on "the grandchild rule": If a patient's
> children don't want the grandchildren in the car when the patient
> is driving, he or she needs to relinquish the keys before hurting
> someone else's grandchildren.
>
> What the academy's report does provide is a relative ranking of
> which factors most accurately identify an increased risk of
> unsafe driving.  They include a higher rating on a test called
> the Clinical Dementia Rating, a history of crashes and traffic
> tickets in the past few years, and "aggressive or impulsive
> personality characteristics." (Personally, I'd like those people
> off the highways even if they don't have dementia, but being a
> hothead is not illegal.)
>
> One of the more accurate predictors of trouble, the report
> emphasizes, is a caregiver's assessment. If you report that your
> parent or other relative with dementia is driving unsafely,
> you're likely to be correct.  So stick to your guns.
>
> "If I had written the report, I would emphasize to family members
> that you're the best judge of when the risk is unacceptable, and
> you can ask the doctor to use his or her authority to say so,"
> Dr. Kennedy said.  "We're the ones who should take the heat." He
> has written letters to patients telling them to stop driving when
> his advice during office visits proved ineffective; he also keeps
> the online forms handy to send to the state division of motor
> vehicles if a letter doesn't work.
>
> That's because one of the decidedly unreliable factors, the
> report found, is a demented driver's own judgment of his ability.
> It cited a study of patients with mild Alzheimer's, 94 percent of
> whom rated themselves as safe drivers. Only 41 percent could pass
> a road test, however.
>
> "A patient's self-rating . . . is established as not useful for
> determining that the patient is safe to drive," the report
> concluded. But you probably already knew that.
>
> Paula Span is the author of "When the Time Comes: Families With
> Aging Parents Share Their Struggles and Solutions."
>
> * Copyright 2010 The New York Times Company
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Males should be considered legally dead when they can no longer beat
their meat.

climber

climber

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Apr 14, 2010, 8:36:28 PM4/14/10
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Sorry, left out my comments. I live in a standalone fairly affluent
town. In 3 years 2
cyclists have been killed when a senior driver pulled right out of a
side street or
parking lot. The older we get the more safety testing should be
mandated.

climber

S'mee

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Apr 15, 2010, 2:56:02 AM4/15/10
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On Apr 14, 5:38 pm, climber <coledenk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Two things come to mind you traitorous terroristic shit bag.


One...DWD means you will never be allowed to legally drive again, nor
would you be allowed a bicycle, tricycle or rollerscates. That woudl
be cheaper that just killing you.

TWO, you have been dead since you were 13.

BUH retard...hope you die. Hell I hope you give me the opportunity to
make an abject example out of you...a nice tight group with a .44 that
I can cover with a silver dollar. That'll make a nice grouping on your
forehead.

S'mee

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Apr 15, 2010, 2:56:20 AM4/15/10
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LIAR

thom...@westwood.anonymous.post.world.org

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Apr 15, 2010, 5:31:55 AM4/15/10
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:56:20 -0700 (PDT), "S'mee"
<steven...@hotmail.com> wrote:

blah blah blah you stupid fucking truck driver

climber

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Apr 15, 2010, 8:14:51 AM4/15/10
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On Apr 15, 2:31 am, thomp...@westwood.anonymous.post.world.org wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:56:20 -0700 (PDT), "S'mee"
>

I don't think any responsible trucking company would hire Keith
(S'Mee) if they were aware of
his deteriorating mental condition.

climber

Rocky

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Apr 15, 2010, 9:37:43 AM4/15/10
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"S'mee" <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>LIAR

SEMEN SWALLOWER


Rocky

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Apr 15, 2010, 11:36:27 AM4/15/10
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"Rocky" <woo...@att.net> wrote in message
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Second notice of abuse sent.

Apparently giganews.com doesn't care if an imposter uses their e-mail
address or they would have done something the first time.


Rocky

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Apr 15, 2010, 11:43:46 AM4/15/10
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> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:56:20 -0700 (PDT), "S'mee"
> <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> blah blah blah you stupid fucking truck driver

The only reason his post made it to MTT is because it was cross posted and
chances are he isn't even a truck driver so who is the stupid one now?


Nancy2

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Apr 15, 2010, 11:58:53 AM4/15/10
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And in my state, senior bicyclists get hit by young drivers -
bicyclists take no government-mandated tests at all.

N.

Nancy2

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Apr 15, 2010, 11:59:51 AM4/15/10
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Oops, sorry, didn't know I was in the middle of a personal attack.
I'm out.

N.

Rocky

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Apr 15, 2010, 1:42:11 PM4/15/10
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"Nancy2" <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
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> Oops, sorry, didn't know I was in the middle of a personal attack.
> I'm out.

Too bad more posters can't see the obvious as well as you can.


S'mee

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Apr 15, 2010, 2:59:22 PM4/15/10
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On Apr 15, 3:31 am, thomp...@westwood.anonymous.post.world.org wrote:

Shows what a net coward knows. You are no better than that racist
idiot climber...most likely a racist nigger just like him.

S'mee

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Apr 15, 2010, 3:00:52 PM4/15/10
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Oh really? IF I wanted a CDL with the proper certs I could get it
quiet easily and get hired on the spot due to prior experience. As for
sanity compared to a racist traitor to america I'm sane. Then again
I'm saner than 99% of the population...I HATE autos.

S'mee

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Apr 15, 2010, 3:01:35 PM4/15/10
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On Apr 15, 9:43 am, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> <thomp...@westwood.anonymous.post.world.org> wrote in message

AH but you assume much don't you? I've driven my share of trucks and
not on some pussified interstate.

S'mee

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Apr 15, 2010, 3:02:24 PM4/15/10
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On Apr 15, 7:37 am, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> >LIAR
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> SEMEN SWALLOWER

Oh really tell me nigger...what's a piece of white trash like you
talking like that me a man who is OBVIOUSLY your better in everyway?

S'mee

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Apr 15, 2010, 3:03:07 PM4/15/10
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On Apr 15, 9:36 am, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote in message

Oh fuck you nigger....you want something for nothing and THAT is the
only valid definition of a what you are.

S'mee

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Apr 15, 2010, 3:03:45 PM4/15/10
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Don't worrry rocky is a little no nothing bitch of a nigger.

Rocky

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Apr 15, 2010, 4:38:15 PM4/15/10
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"S'mee" <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 15, 9:36 am, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> > "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:8p-dnY0R48M0i1rW...@giganews.com...
> >
> > Second notice of abuse sent.
> >
> > Apparently giganews.com doesn't care if an imposter uses their e-mail
> > address or they would have done something the first time.
>
> Oh fuck you nigger....

That message was not directed to you. It was directed to the poster that is
using my name and e-mail address.

Rocky


Rocky

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Apr 15, 2010, 4:42:21 PM4/15/10
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"S'mee" <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Oh really

A person I call Jeff, because of his e-mail address, posted with my name and
e-mail address again. You can read more about the clown Jeff at:
http://Jeff.on.JusticeGoneWild.com

Please don't think he is me because that is what he wants you to do.

BTW the third time that I complained to giganews about Jeff posting with my
e-mail address they sent me back an e-mail stating: "I have escalated this
issue to a manager. . ."

Rocky


Rocky

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Apr 15, 2010, 4:50:07 PM4/15/10
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"S'mee" <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Don't worrry rocky is a little no nothing bitch of a nigger.

Which rocky are you posting about? Do realize there are two different
people posting as Rocky?

The message ID in my post end with mchsi.com and the message ID in the
imposter's post end with giganews.com.

I've had to deal with imposter since Christmas of 2003 and he still fucks
with the unsuspecting.
http://MTT.JusticeGoneWild.com/zeke

I've managed to prevent the other Rocky from using 4 other news servers for
his falsifications and now I've got one more news server I have to deal
with.

Is that good enough?

TIA

Rocky


Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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Apr 15, 2010, 3:50:20 PM4/15/10
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"S'mee" <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Excellent.

Kinda like a guy who tries to glom respect for military exploits he can't
prove.

Even a blind chicken gets a piece of corn once in a while.

--
--
Popeye
"Best thing for him, really. His therapy
was going nowhere.." -Dr. Hannibal Lector.

www.finalprotectivefire.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/Popeye8762

Rocky

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Apr 15, 2010, 4:56:21 PM4/15/10
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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Popey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:EZqdncqqE4xu8FrW...@supernews.com...

>
> "S'mee" <steven...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:07521174-4a78-44c8...@b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 15, 9:36 am, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
>
> Excellent.

This is why Zeke/Jeff/Habda will post with my name and e-mail address.

Zeke/Jeff/Habda loves to fuck with people and Dougface is too stupid to see
that Zeke has also fucked more posters using my name and e-mail address than
he can count.
http://MTT.JusticeGoneWild.com

Rocky


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