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Phil Allison  
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 More options Jun 7 2004, 6:49 am
Newsgroups: rec.audio.tubes
From: "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:49:23 +1000
Local: Mon, Jun 7 2004 6:49 am
Subject: Re: OT: MOSFET question

"Patrick Turner" <i...@turneraudio.com.au

> A liar is someone who *knows* the truth about something, but deliberately
> states a conflicting story, thus decieving the recipient with malice, or
> spurious or mischievous intent.

 **  Not so.  A lie is a falsehood,  a liar is a purveyor of falsehoods  -
all the worse in a public forum.

 When someone shows a reckless disregard for facts and logical reasoning in
spite of compelling, contrary evidence being presented they thoroughly
deserve the epithet.

> Perhaps Our dearest Denis has simply got his wires crossed, ie, he is
genuinely
> unaware of the reasons behind your claims to what are facts as you
consider them
> to be.

**  Our Denis is pushing some personal barrow  -  the content of that messy
barrow is dribbling out presently.

> > > What is the behaviour of ME amps, in your experience?

> > **  ME amps are a closely guarded secret   -   they all return to their
> > maker for service.

> I have serviced two ME amps in the last 5 years.

 **  Wow  -  many as that !!

> Not everyone tries to return them to the maker for service.

**  They may have discovered that their maker charges like the proverbial
wounded bull.

> TW loves to say the ME amps have no global FB.

**  Bit like saying the earth is flat and we should all fall off if it were
not.

> He gets on the audiologically correct bandwagon, well, he thinks he's on
it,
> but the wagon is a very dilapidated old bomb....

**  TW is a parrot  -   but of a different feather.

      He is Peter Stein's well trained parrot.

> ME became liquidated last year, and went out of business, and
> ppl wanting service would simply take them to where is convenient.

**   ME refuse to assist outsiders with service -  even TW is an outsider.

       Magician's  must not reveal their tricks to the hoi polloi.

> > **  Only a wanker adds a VI limiter to a Hitachi mosfet stage.

> I have a zener voltage limiter to make sure the gates don't cop too much
Vg-s.
> and to make sure the collector current from the voltage amp stage doesn't
> blow the 12v zeners in the mosfets.

**  The choice of zener voltage is important if you expect mere fuses to
save TO3 mosfets internal fuses from near shorts under full drive.

> I also have 6 amp diodes from the output to each rail to make sure that
back
> voltages from the output never make a current try to flow backwards into
the emitter
> circuits and to the rails.

**  Mosfets have built in,  structural reverse diodes   -  your additional
ones serve no purpose.

> BJTs sure don't like having current forced through them backwards.

**   Must be a bunch of rabid homophobes.

> In my 300 watt amp, I would not be happy with just the existing 12 volt
internal
> zener diode vgs limiters, lest too much power be allowed to be made into
low value loads,
> with a correspondingly too high amount of dissipation in the devices.

 **  Correct.

> I leant it to a guy for PA use and he couldn't kill it.

 **  PA folk have great difficulty killing mosfet amps  -  only the most
determined have ever succeeded.

.............   Phil


 
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