ProTools Bounce to MP3 Problem
jviking
odd problem with my bounces to mp3. I have purchased the mp3 option
and have had no problems with it for years.
Suddenly, however, my bounces to mp3 results in files that have file
sizes you'd expect for aif or wav files, ten times what they should be
for mp3 files.
Any suggestions as to what the culprit may be and how to fix the
problem?
Thanks,
JV
David Morgan (MAMS)
"jviking" <mrwi...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1164751254.4...@45g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
I'm not overly PT experienced, but I thought you had to save the bounced
file as a .mp3 or that it had to be converted. I've never seen an option to
bounce to disc as MP3.
Lorin David Schultz
>
> I'm not overly PT experienced, but I thought you had to save the
> bounced
> file as a .mp3 or that it had to be converted. I've never seen an
> option to
> bounce to disc as MP3.
It's there. I don't know what's causing the OP's problem, other than
maybe accidentally overlooking a setting in any of the three freakin'
windows you have to go through before you wind up with a finished
file.
JV, what settings are you selecting in the first and second windows?
--
"It CAN'T be too loud... some of the red lights aren't even on yet!"
- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good
David Morgan (MAMS)
"Lorin David Schultz" <Lo...@v5v.ca> wrote in message news:BJ2bh.698$YV4.363@edtnps89...
> David Morgan (MAMS) <ma...@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not overly PT experienced, but I thought you had to save the
> > bounced file as a .mp3 or that it had to be converted. I've never
> > seen an option to bounce to disc as MP3.
> It's there.
Thanx...
Wow, mixing straight to am MP3?!?! No wonder I hadn't thought of that....
Romeo Rondeau
Don't be silly! You have to hypercompress the shit out of it first :-)
Ty Ford
(in article <3C2bh.15830$Uz.2621@trnddc05>):
You can BTD as an MP3 with pro Tools
Ty Ford
-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com
Steve King
news:v7CdnbvXO67SK_DY...@comcast.com...
In English, does bounce mean copy to X, convert to X format, what? A PC guy
wants to know.
Steve King
Arny Krueger
Many programs that work with MP3 files do so by indirect means. Its possible
that some piece of software that you installed recently either intentionally
or implicitly changed those indirect means. You might want to uninstall and
reinstall the MP3 option for Protools.
Ty Ford
(in article <vMSdnXdA8IZeI_DY...@comcast.com>):
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!
BTD is bounce to disk. You run the mix in realtime and choose MP3 instead of
a .wav. Mac folks also have BIG fun converting .wavs to mp3 in iTunes. iTunes
does that REALLYfast.
Regards,
Steve King
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:09:24 -0500, Steve King wrote
> (in article <vMSdnXdA8IZeI_DY...@comcast.com>):
>
>>
>> In English, does bounce mean copy to X, convert to X format, what? A PC
>> guy
>> wants to know.
>>
>> Steve King
>>
>>
>
> NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!
>
> BTD is bounce to disk. You run the mix in realtime and choose MP3 instead
> of
> a .wav. Mac folks also have BIG fun converting .wavs to mp3 in iTunes.
> iTunes
> does that REALLYfast.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ty Ford
>
Oh! You mean, 'Save As'. ;-)
Steve King
Ty Ford
(in article <rsydnWLiiJWs5_PY...@comcast.com>):
Not excatly. You don't get there by Save As... I guess for iTunes, it's sort
of like save as, but not. There are BTD commands in PTLE and in iTunes,
there's a menu choice for making MP3. You can go into preferences and select
the data rate you want.
Ty
Steve King
type choices. Several, including MP3, offer many further choices inclduing
bit-rate, conversion from/to stereo, conversion to 8-bit (not that I use
that much;-) --- and all accomplished much, much faster than real-time. I'm
sure PT has many unique capabilities, but BTD is simply market-speak IMO.
Give the customer cute words for common tasks and they'll think they have
something special. Seems to work.
Steve King
vdub...@earthlink.net
Steve King wrote:
> I'n sure PT has many unique capabilities, but BTD is simply market-speak IMO.
> Give the customer cute words for common tasks and they'll think they have
> something special. Seems to work.
>
Steve, not really that. It was BTD when there were hardly any
conversion options, and now that there are many it's still BTD. I mean
Bounce To Disk...you get a file on yer disk.
Romeo Rondeau
Why don't they just call it "bounce", the "to disk" part is a given,
isn't it? :-)
Steve King
news:1164910967.7...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Awww, I'm just funning with you PT guys. My theory is that PT early in its
history wanted something sexier than the 'Save File' nomenclature that was
too ordinary like saving a text file; they wanted it to seem to be something
special. I think it worked:-)
Steve King
Steve King
news:JIFbh.974$Ga1...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
When you bounce a ball, it doesn't stick anywhere; it just comes right back
at you. Why, you could bounce it all day, and at the end it's right back
where it started. That's no way to archive! Now, "Splaat" to disc, that's
a word that suggests something will stick where you put it. PT needed me to
help them with this stuff, but now its too late.
Steve King
jviking
> windows you have to go through before you wind up with a finished
> file.
> JV, what settings are you selecting in the first and second windows?
My settings seem to be correct -- I'm bouncing to a mono summed file
(it's voiceover only), 44100 sample rate, encoding speed: fastest,
constant bit rate set to 128kbits/s.
And yet, 30 seconds of mono audio is resulting in a file size of 2.5MB,
which is appropriate for .wav or .aif, but not mp3.
>but BTD is simply market-speak IMO.
>Give the customer cute words for common tasks and they'll think they have
>something special. Seems to work.
Actually, "Bounce To Disk" is a nod to the old studio term when we used
to have to mix a number of tracks on a multi-track tape to one or two
tracks in order to free up tracks for further multi-tracking.
It's the process of committing (usually) several tracks into one (or
two if in stereo). Instead of bouncing to free tracks on the same
analog tape, in this case we're "Bouncing To Disk".
jviking
Arny Krueger wrote:
>You might want to uninstall and reinstall the MP3 option for Protools.
I launched the installer off of my installer CD and went to install it,
but it checked my computer and said, basically, "no need to install it,
you've already got the necessary files".
Any suggestions on how to uninstall the mp3 option, (without
uninstalling the entire ProTools ap?)
Arny Krueger
Is there an entry for the MP3 option in the control panel's list of
installed program?
Ty Ford
(in article <iuydnY9XhbgKifLY...@comcast.com>):
I don't think BTD is marketspeak. It's just how they mix a multitrack
production down to a stereo master file in realtime; so it's mixing you
multitrack production to a stereo master on your disk. Because it involves
automation moves and effects plug ins, compressors, limiters and virtual
instruments, it's done in real time.
Regards,
Ty Ford
(in article <0dudnaai68TYsfLY...@comcast.com>):
DAMN IT STEVE, READ MY LIPS!! :)
PT also does Save As, but for entire sessions. It's not at all the same as
BTD, because in doing so, it doesn't "mix" a stereo file for you. "Bounce"
was a term I first heard in analog tape parlance when you ran out of tracks
and had to bounce several together to free up a track.
PT and other DAW software talk about the same thing when they run out of
tracks OR, when they run out of processing power. Too many stereo reverb
plugins, for example, can push native CPU-based plugins over the edge.
One strategy is to "print" or mix to disk the reverbed tracks so you don't
have to use the reverb plugin.
Regards,
Ty Ford
Lorin David Schultz
>
> Is there an entry for the MP3 option in the control panel's list of
> installed program?
No, it's part of the primary app. It's activated with its own serial
number, but it's not a separate "program" per se.