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Exporting orchestral (prog) stems for the final mix of a movie: how?
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Hueyduck
Jun 21, 2012, 10:15:44 AM6/21/12
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Hi,
I'm currently witing and producing the music for a short (20 min) movie.
This will be mainly orchestral music made with a PC (no real takes will
be incorporated).
When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
extra step of "mixing the music".
But someone says to me that it is much better to deliver stems to the
final sound ingeneer.
I was told to use LRC format to deliver the stems.
Can someone confirm what format would the final ingeneer is to expect
from the producer of an orchestral music? What is usually done?
Is the LRC format usefull indeed?
What other advice could you give me in order to stay effective and to
give the engeneer all he/she needs and not more?
Thanks :)
Huey
PS: if there is a more specific forum for sound for movies, I'd be gald
to be redirected towardsit
PPS: if you know how to export LRC files from Cubase 5, please let me
know. Im' trying and reading the manual, but for the moment I'm not
successfull.
I'm currently witing and producing the music for a short (20 min) movie.
This will be mainly orchestral music made with a PC (no real takes will
be incorporated).
When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
extra step of "mixing the music".
But someone says to me that it is much better to deliver stems to the
final sound ingeneer.
I was told to use LRC format to deliver the stems.
Can someone confirm what format would the final ingeneer is to expect
from the producer of an orchestral music? What is usually done?
Is the LRC format usefull indeed?
What other advice could you give me in order to stay effective and to
give the engeneer all he/she needs and not more?
Thanks :)
Huey
PS: if there is a more specific forum for sound for movies, I'd be gald
to be redirected towardsit
PPS: if you know how to export LRC files from Cubase 5, please let me
know. Im' trying and reading the manual, but for the moment I'm not
successfull.
Scott Dorsey
Jun 21, 2012, 10:18:46 AM6/21/12
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Hueyduck <sea-...@kaspop.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm currently witing and producing the music for a short (20 min) movie.
>This will be mainly orchestral music made with a PC (no real takes will
>be incorporated).
>
>When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
>extra step of "mixing the music".
Right. The thing is that when you add dialogue and effects, everything
>Hi,
>I'm currently witing and producing the music for a short (20 min) movie.
>This will be mainly orchestral music made with a PC (no real takes will
>be incorporated).
>
>When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
>extra step of "mixing the music".
changes. The music is, sad to say, less important than the dialogue so it
gets mixed around the dialogue.
>But someone says to me that it is much better to deliver stems to the
>final sound ingeneer.
aiming for.
>I was told to use LRC format to deliver the stems.
>Can someone confirm what format would the final ingeneer is to expect
>from the producer of an orchestral music? What is usually done?
want LCR stuff.
>Is the LRC format usefull indeed?
the dialogue is mixed to the center, it's often good not to have anything
arranged into the center while people are speaking. The center channel is
needed to center the dialogue.
>What other advice could you give me in order to stay effective and to
>give the engeneer all he/she needs and not more?
--scott
--
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Hueyduck
Jun 21, 2012, 10:45:30 AM6/21/12
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Scott Dorsey a écrit :
How true. I hadn't thought of that because there is almost no dialog in
the movie I'm talking about. But of course, it makes sense.
-
Noted. Thanks
-
>
>> I was told to use LRC format to deliver the stems.
>
> Do you mean LCR? Left center and right channels separated?
-
Yes, I do. I miswrote it because cubase names it "LRC". Now I know why
I couldn'tt find any documentation on google... ;-)
-
Thx ofr this confirmation.
-
Thanks for your time, Scott.
Huey
> Hueyduck <sea-...@kaspop.com> wrote:
>>
>> When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
>> extra step of "mixing the music".
>
> Right. The thing is that when you add dialogue and effects, everything
> changes. The music is, sad to say, less important than the dialogue so it
> gets mixed around the dialogue.
-
>>
>> When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
>> extra step of "mixing the music".
>
> Right. The thing is that when you add dialogue and effects, everything
> changes. The music is, sad to say, less important than the dialogue so it
> gets mixed around the dialogue.
How true. I hadn't thought of that because there is almost no dialog in
the movie I'm talking about. But of course, it makes sense.
-
>
>> But someone says to me that it is much better to deliver stems to the
>> final sound ingeneer.
>
> Yes. Give him your final mix also, though, just so he can hear what you're
> aiming for.
-
>> But someone says to me that it is much better to deliver stems to the
>> final sound ingeneer.
>
> Yes. Give him your final mix also, though, just so he can hear what you're
> aiming for.
Noted. Thanks
-
>
>> I was told to use LRC format to deliver the stems.
>
> Do you mean LCR? Left center and right channels separated?
Yes, I do. I miswrote it because cubase names it "LRC". Now I know why
I couldn'tt find any documentation on google... ;-)
-
>
>> Can someone confirm what format would the final ingeneer is to expect
>>from the producer of an orchestral music? What is usually done?
>
> Normally I see folks who want Pro Tools files for all stems, and yes they
> want LCR stuff.
-
>> Can someone confirm what format would the final ingeneer is to expect
>>from the producer of an orchestral music? What is usually done?
>
> Normally I see folks who want Pro Tools files for all stems, and yes they
> want LCR stuff.
Thx ofr this confirmation.
-
>
>> Is the LRC format usefull indeed?
>
> Yes, because all films are shown on three-channel systems. Although, since
> the dialogue is mixed to the center, it's often good not to have anything
> arranged into the center while people are speaking. The center channel is
> needed to center the dialogue.
>
>> What other advice could you give me in order to stay effective and to
>> give the engeneer all he/she needs and not more?
>
> Call the engineer and ask them!
-
This is on my to do list, along with "finding an motivated ingeneer" :))
>> Is the LRC format usefull indeed?
>
> Yes, because all films are shown on three-channel systems. Although, since
> the dialogue is mixed to the center, it's often good not to have anything
> arranged into the center while people are speaking. The center channel is
> needed to center the dialogue.
>
>> What other advice could you give me in order to stay effective and to
>> give the engeneer all he/she needs and not more?
>
> Call the engineer and ask them!
-
Thanks for your time, Scott.
Huey
Mark
Jun 21, 2012, 7:26:43 PM6/21/12
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>
> Huey
>
> PS: if there is a more specific forum for sound for movies, I'd be gald
> to be redirected towardsit
>
>
rec.audio.production.movies
also knowns as ramps
Mark
Richard Webb
Jun 22, 2012, 12:38:41 AM6/22/12
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MEthinks you got the newsgroup pointer wrong mark.
The op should try:
rec.arts.movies.production.sound
That will get him to the appropriate group.
Lots of location sound guys there, but a couple of editors
and post guys too iirc.
Regards,
Richard
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The op should try:
rec.arts.movies.production.sound
That will get him to the appropriate group.
Lots of location sound guys there, but a couple of editors
and post guys too iirc.
Regards,
Richard
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Hueyduck
Jun 23, 2012, 4:38:28 AM6/23/12
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Richard Webb a écrit :
Have a nice week end
Huey
> MEthinks you got the newsgroup pointer wrong mark.
>
> The op should try:
>
> rec.arts.movies.production.sound
>
> That will get him to the appropriate group.
>
> Lots of location sound guys there, but a couple of editors
> and post guys too iirc.
>
Thank you both. I'll try "Ramps" asap.
>
> The op should try:
>
> rec.arts.movies.production.sound
>
> That will get him to the appropriate group.
>
> Lots of location sound guys there, but a couple of editors
> and post guys too iirc.
>
Have a nice week end
Huey
Frank
Jul 2, 2012, 10:40:23 PM7/2/12
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:26:43 -0700 (PDT), in 'rec.audio.pro',
in article <Re: Exporting orchestral (prog) stems for the final mix of
a movie: how?>,
ramps = rec.arts.movies.production.sound
Or so I thought.
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in article <Re: Exporting orchestral (prog) stems for the final mix of
a movie: how?>,
Or so I thought.
--
Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY
[Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.]
Read Frank's thoughts on HDV at http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/
[also covers AVCHD (including AVCCAM & NXCAM) and XDCAM EX].
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