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Sanford Florida shooting case audio forensics

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MarkK

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Mar 27, 2012, 9:55:59 PM3/27/12
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the audio is here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aVwPqXc-bk

I have a feeling if/when this goes to trial, audio forensics will play a big
part.

They will pick apart the recording to try to discern what George Z. mumbled
and if the wind noise indicates he was running when told not to pursue...

Mark



Gary Eickmeier

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Mar 29, 2012, 1:12:43 AM3/29/12
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"MarkK" <mako...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for the link. I have been trying to find the one with the gunshot for
a week now. Who do you think is crying HELP in the woman's tape? Words that
Z mumbled in his call are comletely unimportant.

Gary Eickmeier


hank alrich

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Mar 29, 2012, 8:55:49 AM3/29/12
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Forensic audio specialists will determine what the sounds mean. It's not
for us to determine what is or is not important.

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Gary Eickmeier

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Mar 30, 2012, 1:22:11 AM3/30/12
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"hank alrich" <walk...@nv.net> wrote in message
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> Gary Eickmeier <geic...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>> Thanks for the link. I have been trying to find the one with the gunshot
>> for
>> a week now. Who do you think is crying HELP in the woman's tape? Words
>> that
>> Z mumbled in his call are comletely unimportant.
>>
>> Gary Eickmeier
>
> Forensic audio specialists will determine what the sounds mean. It's not
> for us to determine what is or is not important.

I didn't say they were depending on me, just that in my opinion remarks made
in the car have little to do with his actions afterward.

Gary Eickmeier


MarkK

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Apr 1, 2012, 6:37:46 PM4/1/12
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initial forensic audio analysis says calls for help are not George
Zimmerman's voice

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvon-martin-case-91
1-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-experts-say?preview=true

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/01/voice-heard-screaming-on-11-tape-is-not
-trayvon-martin-shooter-george-zimmerman/

http://www.owlinvestigations.com/

They had a sample of George Zimmerman's voice from the other 911 call. Now
they need a sample recording of Trevons voice.


Mark



brassplyer

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Apr 2, 2012, 12:56:45 AM4/2/12
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On Apr 1, 6:37 pm, "MarkK" <makol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> initial forensic audio analysis says calls for help are not George
> Zimmerman's voice
>
> http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvon-martin-...
> 1-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-experts-say?preview=true
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/01/voice-heard-screaming-on-11-tape...
> -trayvon-martin-shooter-george-zimmerman/
>
> http://www.owlinvestigations.com/
>
> They had a sample of George Zimmerman's voice from the other 911 call.  Now
> they need a sample recording of Trevons voice.


I say the so-called "experts" are FOS. Trying to extrapolate what
someone's screaming voice sounds like at distance based on close up,
subdued speech, with both recordings having such lousy fidelity is
ludicrous. Not to mention there isn't really a plausible scenario that
fits the other known elements that would have Trayvon Martin screaming
for help. What, did Zimmerman just stand there watching Martin scream
for help (with Martin just standing there, not fleeing?) and plug him
on a whim? Didn't happen that way. *Couldn't* have happened that way
unless the witnesses are lying.

One "expert" is basically basing his finding on a seat of the pants
assessment.

Simple enough to have Zimmerman recreate his screaming and record it
under the same circumstances.

eth...@ethanwiner.com

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Apr 2, 2012, 12:24:44 PM4/2/12
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On Monday, April 2, 2012 12:56:45 AM UTC-4, brassplyer wrote:
> I say the so-called "experts" are FOS.

That was my feeling too as I heard one of them on Geraldo Rivera's radio show this morning. More to the point, who's cell phone did the call come from?

--Ethan
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Frank Stearns

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Apr 4, 2012, 1:43:40 PM4/4/12
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Jeff Henig <yom...@yomama.com> writes:
>And now they're doctoring the tapes.

>http://www.theblaze.com/stories/trayvon-martin-case-leads-to-multiple-embarrassments-for-nbc-msnbc/?fwcc=1&fwcl=1&fwl

It's sad and infuriating that to fit a PC preconception, such fraud is considered
legitimate in some media circles; and the most twisted logic is used to justify it.

Ironically, in the long-run, it hurts "the cause," in this case aspiring to a
color-blind society. The fraudsters, who seem to have swallowed so much koolaid,
never seem to get this...

Frank
Mobile Audio
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vdubreeze

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Apr 4, 2012, 1:57:09 PM4/4/12
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The Daily Show's addition to the 'hoodie makes one look like a
gangsta' lexicon with "like a suit and glasses can make Geraldo Rivera
look like a journalist" was apropo of this. It looks like journalism,
but it ain't.
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gtbuba

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Apr 5, 2012, 1:02:44 AM4/5/12
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On Apr 4, 2:18 pm, Jeff Henig <yom...@yomama.com> wrote:
> Frank Stearns <franks.pacifier....@pacifier.net> wrote:
> > Jeff Henig <yom...@yomama.com> writes:
>
> >> <eth...@ethanwiner.com> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 2, 2012 12:56:45 AM UTC-4, brassplyer wrote:
> >>>> I say the so-called "experts" are FOS.
>
> >>> That was my feeling too as I heard one of them on Geraldo Rivera's radio
> >>> show this morning. More to the point, who's cell phone did the call come from?
>
> >>> --Ethan
>
> >> And now they're doctoring the tapes.
>
> >>http://www.theblaze.com/stories/trayvon-martin-case-leads-to-multiple...
>
> > It's sad and infuriating that to fit a PC preconception, such fraud is considered
> > legitimate in some media circles; and the most twisted logic is used to justify it.
>
> > Ironically, in the long-run, it hurts "the cause," in this case aspiring to a
> > color-blind society. The fraudsters, who seem to have swallowed so much koolaid,
> > never seem to get this...
>
> > Frank
> > Mobile Audio
>
> +1 to all of what you just said.
>
> It's a sad state of affairs, all the way around.
>
> --
> ---Jeff

George's dad was on Hanity tonight. He said the calling for help was
his sons voice. Their whole faMily heard it and said it was George.
What a poor price Al Sharpton has George ziMMer pay for aL's big
Mouth. I didn't think he was that belligerent. Lord the election is
just getting started and there's all this extra heat froM both sides.
We need two countries. GT

MG

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Apr 5, 2012, 5:54:48 PM4/5/12
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"gtbuba" <glenn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's been tried. It didn't work out well.

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