Got my coles 4038 today

Nate Najar

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Jun 7, 2013, 11:03:04 PM6/7/13

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A demo from the dealer with whom I have a store credit. I have never used one of the before. I have experience using rca 44 on a few different instruments in a studio situation, but never my guitar. I have used an AEA ku4 on my guitar and liked it very very much.

First, Scott i have heard you say it's muffled to you- it doesn't seem muffled to me. Not crispy of course, but speaking into sounded normal.

The proximity on this mic is unreal. But a hp filter or low shelf cleans it right up. I cannot believe how natural and accurate it sounds on my guitar. I really like it, but im not keen on monitoring it so tubby (the eq has to be done in the DAW) so if I decide to keep it I may have to spring for an AEA rpq preamp to get the roll off at the source. Based on the eq I did in the daw, I could probably get away with no eq if I used an rpq.

Anyway, first impressions are exciting. I think I want another for upright bass.

I have a handful of different schoeps capsules coming to me for demo also. Completely different beasts I know. I just have to use a good deal of eq to get my mk41 to be right for me so I am looking at alternatives that might be easier to handle. Perhaps I will prefer the schoeps omni. But I am super impressed with this 4038 in terms of how natural and real it sounds. I feel like I could just make a whole record with a few of these....

Mike Rivers

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Jun 8, 2013, 8:07:00 AM6/8/13

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On 6/7/2013 11:03 PM, Nate Najar wrote:

> The proximity on this mic is unreal. But a hp filter or low shelf
> cleans it right up. I cannot believe how natural and accurate it
> sounds on my guitar. I really like it, but im not keen on monitoring
> it so tubby (the eq has to be done in the DAW) so if I decide to keep
> it I may have to spring for an AEA rpq preamp to get the roll off at
> the source. Based on the eq I did in the daw, I could probably get
> away with no eq if I used an rpq.

Heh, heh, heh. Buy one, get two! That's the way it goes in this
business. But that sounds like a happy combination.

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Paul

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Jun 8, 2013, 10:31:59 AM6/8/13

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I've never used a ribbon mic before, but I'm thinking about
getting one after hearing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-pdnG0Yg0&feature=youtu.be

Sounds gorgeous even over Youtube....

Matt Faunce

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Jun 8, 2013, 12:17:12 PM6/8/13

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Here's a guitar video that I love, using a Royer:

Adam del Monte plays Cordoba by Isaac Albeniz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BInuSLDDOA

Again, Nate wrote:

>> I have used an AEA ku4 on my guitar and liked it very very much.

Yes, you let us listen to it. I liked it very much too!

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Matt

Paul

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Jun 8, 2013, 12:58:12 PM6/8/13

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That sounds great.

My impression is that these ribbons are better
for warmer, more mellow instruments.

More suitable for nylon string rather than steel
string guitars, right?

hank alrich

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Jun 8, 2013, 2:01:19 PM6/8/13

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Where have you gotten an actual impression? Ribbons, for instance, can
be fabulous on edgey sources, like banjo.

Stop thinking of a mic as suitable for a source. Start thinking of
music, and use of the tools to deliver it recorded. So many audio
production decisions stand on context.

Hence, a ribbon mic can sound perfect on a steel string guitar,
depending on _context_.

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Ty Ford

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Jun 17, 2013, 3:45:48 PM6/17/13

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On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 12:58:12 -0400, Paul wrote
(in article <kovnj7$9n2$1...@dont-email.me>):

> My impression is that these ribbons are better for warmer, more mellow
> instruments.
>
> More suitable for nylon string rather than steel string guitars, right?

What? That sounds counterintuitive to me. Ribbons, in general are already
warmer (as in they don't have much top end). Why go warmer when you're
already warm?

I find them useful to tame sounds in the opposite direction. Like a banjo,
redd instrument, violin, drum overheads.

BTW, here's an ongoing article I'm working on on the Audio Technica AT4080
ribbon mixs in Blumlein. There are samples to click on.

http://tyfordaudiovideo.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-audio-technica-high-
sensitivity-at.html

Regards,

Ty Ford

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