Method to show someone a song digitally, But prevent them from downloading it?

[Paul]

I've got rough mixes and song ideas I'd like to email to people,
to get their feedback, but I don't want these rough versions finding
their way to places I don't intend them to.

Officially, you aren't able to download from Soundcloud, unless
you have the premium paid service, and you give permission, but
I just saw a website that would allow you to do that, just like
you can download anything on Youtube.

The other idea is to purposefully record noise on the versions
you email to people, or perhaps fade them out before the songs
end....

[geoff]

"Paul" <Quill...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Put in a 1 second beep every 10 seconds, or something.

geoff

[Paul]

Yeah, either that, or I'll leave a very rough vocal
on it, so the singer can't just slap his own voice over it,
and put it on his next CD! haha!

[Mike Rivers]

On 5/11/2013 12:34 AM, Paul wrote:

> I've got rough mixes and song ideas I'd like to email to people,
> to get their feedback, but I don't want these rough versions finding
> their way to places I don't intend them to.

Why not only share them with people you trust not to distribute them
further? After all, those are probably the kind of people you want to
gather feedback from anyway.

> The other idea is to purposefully record noise on the versions
> you email to people, or perhaps fade them out before the songs
> end....

I used to give clients cassette dubs of their sessions, but they didn't
get the tapes until all the bills were paid and they took responsibility
for the media and content. I suppose that today you can give them 64
kbps MP3 files if you want feedback on the music. If you want feedback
on your engineering, that's a different story.



--
For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com

[Paul]

On 5/11/2013 6:30 AM, Mike Rivers wrote:
> On 5/11/2013 12:34 AM, Paul wrote:
>
>> I've got rough mixes and song ideas I'd like to email to people,
>> to get their feedback, but I don't want these rough versions finding
>> their way to places I don't intend them to.
>
> Why not only share them with people you trust not to distribute them
> further? After all, those are probably the kind of people you want to
> gather feedback from anyway.
>

Well, unfortunately I don't know the singer that well,
but he's got a great voice, and sings in French!

>> The other idea is to purposefully record noise on the versions
>> you email to people, or perhaps fade them out before the songs
>> end....
>
> I used to give clients cassette dubs of their sessions, but they didn't
> get the tapes until all the bills were paid and they took responsibility
> for the media and content. I suppose that today you can give them 64
> kbps MP3 files if you want feedback on the music. If you want feedback
> on your engineering, that's a different story.
>

Yeah, I forgot about low-rez MP3s, thank you. I just exported an
MP3 at 16kbps, for a file size of a whopping 746KB, just to
see how bad I can make a recording.

Sounds like absolute shit! haha! Worse than a badly recorded
cassette tape. Perfect...no need to worry about it ending up on
someone's CD.

But yeah, 64 kbps is grainy enough, and still decent enough
to judge the arrangement, and add lyrics, etc.

[thekma...@gmail.com]

Paul "fade them out before the songs end.... "

Echoes my sentiment. Do an 80kbps 30sec or 1min snippet.

[Jason]

On Sat, 11 May 2013 17:27:08 +1200 "geoff" <ge...@nospampaf.co.nz> wrote
in article <OZKdne8nsotQSxDM...@giganews.com>

I've used trial versions of vst plugins that just faded the audio to
nothing for a second or two every so often. I've also had ones that beep
and that's jarring.

[Mike Rivers]

On 5/11/2013 10:36 AM, Paul wrote:

> Well, unfortunately I don't know the singer that well,
> but he's got a great voice, and sings in French!

Oh? It's not your material? In that case you have no business passing
it around without permission. It should be the singer's or writer's (if
not both) decision as to who gets to hear pre-released material.

> Yeah, I forgot about low-rez MP3s, thank you. I just exported an
> MP3 at 16kbps, for a file size of a whopping 746KB, just to
> see how bad I can make a recording.
>
> Sounds like absolute shit! haha!

Well, 16 kbps is kind of extreme. I do a workshop at some music campes
on getting the best from your portable recorder and I play a
demonstration of a good quality recording at several compression rates
down to 32 kbps. It's at 64 kbps that people start to notice that it
doesn't sound so hot, but that it's still fine for recording workshops
and jam sessions if they want to learn a tune. On the other hand, I just
bought a couple of 16 GB SD Class 10 cards for $5.99 each that work
fine, so 24/96 recordings of stuff I'll be throwing away very soon, here
we come!

[Paul]

On 5/11/2013 10:08 AM, Mike Rivers wrote:
> On 5/11/2013 10:36 AM, Paul wrote:
>
>> Well, unfortunately I don't know the singer that well,
>> but he's got a great voice, and sings in French!
>
> Oh? It's not your material? In that case you have no business passing
> it around without permission. It should be the singer's or writer's (if
> not both) decision as to who gets to hear pre-released material.
>

No, it's my material, but this would be a collaboration
with the singer. I'll put in a scratch vocal of the melody
I think would be good, but he'll write the lyrics in French.

>> Yeah, I forgot about low-rez MP3s, thank you. I just exported an
>> MP3 at 16kbps, for a file size of a whopping 746KB, just to
>> see how bad I can make a recording.
>>
>> Sounds like absolute shit! haha!
>
> Well, 16 kbps is kind of extreme. I do a workshop at some music campes
> on getting the best from your portable recorder and I play a
> demonstration of a good quality recording at several compression rates
> down to 32 kbps. It's at 64 kbps that people start to notice that it
> doesn't sound so hot, but that it's still fine for recording workshops
> and jam sessions if they want to learn a tune. On the other hand, I just
> bought a couple of 16 GB SD Class 10 cards for $5.99 each that work
> fine, so 24/96 recordings of stuff I'll be throwing away very soon, here
> we come!
>

Yeah, 64 kbps is about right for my needs. But I'll still
put the scratch vocal track on it, just to make sure....

[Sean Conolly]

"Paul" <Quill...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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I put some code together on my site to use a flash player for playing the
MP3s (320KBs), but using random file names which were generated whenever the
player was loaded. IOW, the direct links for downloading were changed
everytime the player loaded.

Never bothered to try to do anything beyond that because it's pointless: all
you have to do to capture any audio from the web is to loop the audio back
into your DAW. I have an AES/EBU loopback set up just for this whenever I
want to dig into something off youtube.

Sean

[Paul]

Wow, that's really easy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os1sh3RPiJ4

My Tascam audio interface was right there, under
"recording" devices, and I set it to default.

I set the inputs to digital inputs, and the
audio was recorded into Cubase. But EVERYTHING was recorded,
including all Windows OS sounds! So don't click on anything while
you're recording!

Thanks for the tip!

[polymod]

"Sean Conolly" <sjcono...@yaaho.com> wrote in message
news:kmtbu1$an4$1...@dont-email.me...

If you're using IE, you can also play the entire song, go into
tools-internet options-settings-view files and the file should be there.

Poly

[david gourley]

"polymod" <pol...@optonline.net> said...news:51924d66$0$19523
$607e...@cv.net:

Or use something like keepvid.com to capture (usually) what you want from
Youtube in a choice of multiple formats.

david