Out of Phase Stereo
mcp
titles interesting.
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R J Carpenter wrote:
>Kevin M wrote:
>
>> There is audio processing available that automatically corrects for
>> out-of-phase audio by switching it into in-phase.
>
>That would (be) sorta hard to do when the recording was made with the
>orchestra in phase and the singer out of phase.
Or likewise when it was a guitar or other instrument that was out of
phase.
The Guess Who's "Shakin' All Over" LP had this problem. Scepter Records
went
to the trouble of re-recording the group in stereo, but due to the
"missing
guitar," the original Canadian recordings sound better. Oddly, Scepter
didn't
have the group re-cut the title track in stereo.
Anybody remember the "One Voice Many" LP on Columbia by the group
Michaelangelo? It came out in '71, and the group's leader, Angel, was
featured
on the electric autoharp. Guess which instrument was mixed out of
phase?
One of the tracks from that LP, "Son (We've Kept The Room Just The Way
You Left
It)" gained a fair amount of FM play. But on our AM carrier current
campus
station, it was only about "half" there.
Columbia managed to do a mono, in-phase mix for promo copies of the
"It's
Crying Outside" / "West" single, while the stock copies were released in
stereo. Another single, the instrumental "300 Watt Music Box," was sent
to
radio in stereo.
-John Pratt
Bob Olhsson
>It came out in '71
It was pretty common in '71 to do seperate mono mixes for broadcast.
Just folding it down from stereo was never considered nearly as
effective.
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Mike Rivers
> >> There is audio processing available that automatically corrects for
> >> out-of-phase audio by switching it into in-phase.
There was the Orban (I think) PhaseChaser, which did a good job of
keeping compensating for the rather ambiguous azimuth alignmnent of
the tape cartridge players commonly used in broadcast, but that kept
the two channels in phase with each other.
> Or likewise when it was a guitar or other instrument that was out of
> phase.
> The Guess Who's "Shakin' All Over" LP had this problem.
> Anybody remember the "One Voice Many" LP on Columbia by the group
> Michaelangelo? It came out in '71, and the group's leader, Angel, was
> featured
> on the electric autoharp. Guess which instrument was mixed out of
> phase?
That sounds to me like the instrument wasn't necessarily out of phase
with the rest of the band, but rather that it was recorded in stereo
with its two channels out of phase. That would tend to cancel in
mono. There was a Korg or Kawai keyboard that had stereo outputs
which, on some patches, would cancel nicely in mono.
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I'm really Mike Rivers (mri...@d-and-d.com)
Dan Popp
Mountain Dew commercial (the parody of "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen) and
apparently they are just taking ONE SIDE of the audio. There are solos and
other vocal parts that are absolutely missing. Ready for 5.1? I think not.
Yours,
Dan Popp
Colors Audio
USA
Scott Dorsey
>
>In article <39158F...@pobox.com> m...@pobox.com writes:
>
>> >> There is audio processing available that automatically corrects for
>> >> out-of-phase audio by switching it into in-phase.
>
>There was the Orban (I think) PhaseChaser, which did a good job of
>keeping compensating for the rather ambiguous azimuth alignmnent of
>the tape cartridge players commonly used in broadcast, but that kept
>the two channels in phase with each other.
Phase rotators have been around for ages, too, again for broadcast
work. I have a Garron Stereo Phase Enhancer around here somewhere
that dates back to the sixties.
--scott
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