The Brits - even worse than I feared
Don Pearce
and Coldplay being pompous asses on stage - but even I had reckoned
without Prince out-pratting the lot of them.
What an idiot.
d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
martin griffith
R. Aluitious Harris
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> OK, just watching the Brit Awards on the box. I was worried about U2
> and Coldplay being pompous asses on stage - but even I had reckoned
> without Prince out-pratting the lot of them.
>
> What an idiot.
Idiot?
When you've sold as many records as Prince, had a distinguished recording
and performing career as long as Prince has, and when you can perform so
well as he did on Wednesday evening, then you can call him an idiot.
The man is an incredibly talented songwriter, musician, and performer. He's
at liberty to be a pompous ass, if you ask me!
RAH.
bja...@iwaynet.net
equation where one side balances the other. Next you'll be telling us
that murder is OK if you grew up deprived in the ghetto blah, blah!
I'm sorry, but yes the artist formerly known as Prince (yadda yadda) IS
quite talented and has proved it many times over. He is also famous for
his total asshole behavior. Talented and a Jerk. They DO NOT cancel
out. They only equal Talented Jerk.
Benj
rrrant
> I don't think anyone asked you.
If you make a post on forum like google groups you can expect replies.
> I'm sorry, but yes the artist formerly known as Prince (yadda yadda) IS
> quite talented and has proved it many times over. He is also famous for
> his total asshole behavior. Talented and a Jerk. They DO NOT cancel
> out. They only equal Talented Jerk.
You're trying to make a sound argument and even appear rationale when
you admit he's 'quite talented', but 'total asshole behaviour' isn't
accurate. He maybe famous for his behaviour, but I expect that's based
on what the press says (donations to the New Orleans flood victims etc.
don't make the papers) and the occasional ill-judged appearance on UK
TV. Swap it around and you're closer to the mark, he's very talented
and can be an asshole at times.
And Don...anything positive to say? Name some live acts that are not
pompous asses, pratts or idiots and can still pull a million punters in
(Prince was the highest grossing tour act of 2004).
Don Pearce
wrote:
Positive? Absolutely. K T Tunstall gave a fabulous performance, and
Kanye West was a lot of fun. It was interesting as well to watch
Madonna's latest attempt to rebrand herself as British.
I'm afraid I've never been one to measure quality by popularity - to
me they are separate and quite often uncorrelated parameters.
Richard Smol
I never cared much about the music of Prince, TAFKAP or whatever name
du jour the man chooses to have. It's way to derivative in my view and
makes me long for the original music - which could be considered a
positive point. The fact that the man has the social skills of a
deranged skunk doesn't make things any better. As a matter of fact, it
would probably turn me off his music even if I liked it in the first
place.
RS
Beejay
trespassing on my property!
http://www.watchtowernews.org/prince.htm
Beejay
John Deans
mainstream, or fundamentalist , Christianity they differ and argue like mad
John D
"Beejay" <barend...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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ron
Don Pearce
>Prince:
>
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=7nOtQzPCqvE&search=prince
>
>later, ron
>
>
Thank you - yes I do know who he is.
rrrant
bet he'd have been called a few more names. He just performed live
with a band and must have portrayed idiocy from his expression and body
movements - perhaps if you'd heard the music live you might
understand how powerful it is and the passion in the performance
required. Interesting that Kayne West called Prince a legend not an
idiot after his performance at the Brits.
I'd agree that popularity and quality are often uncorrelated in the
short term. However, to be selling a million tour tickets 26 years
after your first album is probably a good indicator of quality, as is
selling 100 million albums. Which artists from the 60s are still
selling CDs/tickets? Beatles, Stones.
And RS - Prince derivative? I think all pop music is to a degree,
just start with blues music. I wouldn't single Prince out as
derivative. He's certainly carrying the baton from Jimi Hendrix, Sly
Stone, Stevie Wonder but a track like When Doves Cry is more novel than
derivative.
To get back to the brits, the most remarkable thing to me was how
poorly, to my ears at least, that guy from Coldplay sang - but then
they generally do nothing for me.
Don Pearce
wrote:
>Don - if Prince had performed with a parade of bikini-clad women I
>bet he'd have been called a few more names. He just performed live
>with a band and must have portrayed idiocy from his expression and body
>movements - perhaps if you'd heard the music live you might
>understand how powerful it is and the passion in the performance
>required. Interesting that Kayne West called Prince a legend not an
>idiot after his performance at the Brits.
>
I'm not talking about his performance, but his manner. I don't like
his performing style, but I do understand it has a certain quality to
it.
>I'd agree that popularity and quality are often uncorrelated in the
>short term. However, to be selling a million tour tickets 26 years
>after your first album is probably a good indicator of quality, as is
>selling 100 million albums. Which artists from the 60s are still
>selling CDs/tickets? Beatles, Stones.
>
Funnily enough, despite them being firmly in my era first time around,
I've never bought either a Beatles or a Stones record. I live in
walking distance of Abbey Road too. My musical inspiration came from
Cream, Hendrix, Butterfield, Zappa and the like.
>And RS - Prince derivative? I think all pop music is to a degree,
>just start with blues music. I wouldn't single Prince out as
>derivative. He's certainly carrying the baton from Jimi Hendrix, Sly
>Stone, Stevie Wonder but a track like When Doves Cry is more novel than
>derivative.
>
>To get back to the brits, the most remarkable thing to me was how
>poorly, to my ears at least, that guy from Coldplay sang - but then
>they generally do nothing for me.
Pomp Rock at its worst. Kelly Clarkson was somewhat of a mess too.
rrrant
>
> I'm not talking about his performance, but his manner. I don't like
> his performing style, but I do understand it has a certain quality to
> it.
Yes, kind of what i meant by his expression and body movements, there's
nothing else to go on. I can understand not liking someones manner, I
got the same impression of Bono from his performance at Live Aid and
have kept it ever since without any other foundation.
> My musical inspiration came from
> Cream, Hendrix, Butterfield, Zappa and the like.
And such artists have survived the test of time. 60's is not my era, so
Stones and Beatles are the first acts that come to mind. It'll be a
small percentage of current acts which will be selling music in 2050.
>
> Pomp Rock at its worst.
And there we can agree. What is it that so many people enjoy about
Coldplay..........
Rob Adelman
What the hell you going on about? Famous for his total asshole
behavior? News to me.
On top of being extremely talented and original, he is also very smart
and aware. Every time I have heard him talk, I have been very impressed
with his comments and observations, more so than almost any popular
artist/actor/ politician I can think of.
I've yet to observe any of this famous "asshole behavior" you speak of.
Don Pearce
wrote:
I'm reminded of some awards here in London quite a few years ago.
Prince won something quite early on, and marched up to the stage
surrounded by a dozen heavies, pushing people out of the way. He then
made a pig-ignorant acceptance speech.
Later he won another, and as he approached the stage the host, Noel
Edmonds, in his one moment of true glory said "Oh no, we're not having
all that again" and threw the statuette down to one of the heavies and
said "go on, get lost". The applause was wonderful.
rickymix
absolutely blown away by his musicianship. That wasn't lip-synced, was
it? Didn't look like it. His guitar playing would have made Hendrix
jealous and his vocals were as phenomenal as Aretha and James Brown at
their best. The guy has world class chops which can't be denied.
So I'm sitting there thinking, "Why is this so boring?" And it
hit me; the material sucks. Prince can't write. I'm not talking about
the arrangements, he definitely did some creative arranging stuff in
the 80s. But, with the exception of "When Doves Cry", I can't think of
any of his songs that would stand up as guitar/vocals or piano vocals,
especially if sung by a lesser performer. He's probably got a few
other good ones, but the vast majority of his material is simply weak,
basically just set-ups to show off his incredible performing chops.
As for his attitude, if you were that small you'd probably be
insecure too. It just makes me feel sorry for him that he needs to
overcompensate so much, like an adolescent girl wearing way too much
makeup. Especially since he really is such an amazing performer. Oh
well, he can cry all the way to the bank. :>)
Cheers, Rick.
news
I have found a very strong correlation between them. Granted it's a
negative correlation.
news
> the article clams prince is now a Jehovah witness this is not the same as
> mainstream, or fundamentalist , Christianity they differ and argue like mad
> John D
>
> "Beejay" <barend...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1140170609....@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Good thing Prince is a good Christian. Don't let me catch him
>> trespassing on my property!
>>
That's what they all do in the absence of some muslims to fight.
Andy
Nappy
"rickymix" <sno...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I saw Prince, TAFFY, whatever, on Saturday Night Live recently and was
> absolutely blown away by his musicianship. That wasn't lip-synced, was
> it? Didn't look like it. His guitar playing would have made Hendrix
> jealous and his vocals were as phenomenal as Aretha and James Brown at
> their best. The guy has world class chops which can't be denied.
>
Fuckin' eh.. did hell freeze over?
Nappy
"rrrant" <third_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Don - if Prince had performed with a parade of bikini-clad women I
> bet he'd have been called a few more names. He just performed live
> with a band and must have portrayed idiocy from his expression and body
> movements - perhaps if you'd heard the music live you might
> understand how powerful it is and the passion in the performance
> required. Interesting that Kayne West called Prince a legend not an
> idiot after his performance at the Brits.
How the fuck would Kanye West know the difference between an idiot and a
legend?
rrrant
rickymix wrote:
> Prince can't write. I'm not talking about
> the arrangements, he definitely did some creative arranging stuff in
> the 80s. But, with the exception of "When Doves Cry", I can't think of
> any of his songs that would stand up as guitar/vocals or piano vocals,
> especially if sung by a lesser performer.
I feel for u - Chaka Kahn (Number 1)
Nothing compares 2 u - Sinead O'Conner (Number 1)
Manic Monday - Bangles (Number 1?)
And he's written a few hundred more songs for other artists.
And there's been over 100 acts cover his songs - Rod Stewart, Tina
Turner, Tom Jones
20 top ten singles of his own in the US.
Two acoustic albums in the recent past and his acoustic medleys during
his shows are always a highlight. It's his songwriting that's made me
buy about 25 of his albums.
I once read he's written enough material for a new album to be released
every year for the next 50 years - or something stupid like that - that
material probably is scrapping the barrel though.
Sean
1140210148.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, "rickymix"
<sno...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Interesting point. I remember thinking, while I watched the SNL performance,
pretty much the same thing as you. What chops. What pipes. What a
performance. But the tune was, well, something like I might come up with in
the garage with my buds: good, the neighbours will put off their complaining
phone calls until we've finished that tune, we'll think we're the funkiest
dudes in creation (like we think every Friday night), but... Well, it's only
rock n roll, and.. Monday morning, back to regular jobs.
Phildo
"R. Aluitious Harris" <r.a.h...@withheld.invalid> wrote in message
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> The man is an incredibly talented songwriter, musician, and performer.
> He's at liberty to be a pompous ass, if you ask me!
Prick may be very talented but that is no excuse for being such an awful
human being, especially one who calls himself a xtian. There is NEVER any
excuse for being that much of a jerk.
How was the broadcast audio by the way?
Phildo
Phildo
"Nappy" <noe...@all.com> wrote in message
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Phildo
Nappy
Sean
1140207653.4...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Rob Adelman"
<journ...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I don't know about this stuff either. Did he act like an arsehole on
the Brits? Didn't seem them, since I am in Canada. The most recent
performance of his I have seen was a couple of weeks ago on the American TV
show Saturday Night Live. He performed very well. I didn't see him act like
an arsehole at all. Perhaps I am not very perceptive.
Steve King
> I feel for u - Chaka Kahn (Number 1)
> Nothing compares 2 u - Sinead O'Conner (Number 1)
> Manic Monday - Bangles (Number 1?)
>
> And he's written a few hundred more songs for other artists.
>
> And there's been over 100 acts cover his songs - Rod Stewart, Tina
> Turner, Tom Jones
>
> 20 top ten singles of his own in the US.
>
> Two acoustic albums in the recent past and his acoustic medleys during
> his shows are always a highlight. It's his songwriting that's made me
> buy about 25 of his albums.
>
> I once read he's written enough material for a new album to be released
> every year for the next 50 years - or something stupid like that - that
> material probably is scrapping the barrel though.
Ever seen him in concert? He is an amazing, exciting performer. Of course,
YMMV.
Steve King
Richard Smol
rickymix wrote:
> I saw Prince, TAFFY, whatever, on Saturday Night Live recently and was
> absolutely blown away by his musicianship.
Which is just to show that some people are impressed easily ;)
RS
rrrant
> Ever seen him in concert? He is an amazing, exciting performer. Of course,
> YMMV.
>
> Steve King
Yep, seen him in concert, 5 times. 3 of them great, 1 utterly fantastic
(near the front) and 1 poor (wore a hat with chains over his face and
played few of the hits).
Next time he's over i'll be after tickets, but only if I can get
nearish the front or it's a small venue. I'd sooner pay £100 and be in
a small venue, than £30 and be 100 yards away.
rrrant
Phildo wrote:
> Prick may be very talented but that is no excuse for being such an awful
> human being, especially one who calls himself a xtian. There is NEVER any
> excuse for being that much of a jerk.
You obviously know very little about the guy other than what is fed to
you by the press. Ok he can be a jerk at times, but 'awful human being'
seems extreme - where does he sit with you compared to someone like
Hitler then? I think Prince has brought more good to the world through
pleasure and helping out some folk in need than he has bad - can't
really think of any pain and suffering he's responsible for.
Jim
recording artists. he found out he was trapped by the letters of intent to
sign and contracts with biz execs. Thats why he came out and said he was a
slave (it never was a racial thing) and tried to get around the shackles and
chains by changing his name.
I think he has guts and if folks don't like his outspokeness about who is
taking his profits then maybe a lil self reflection is in order.
"rrrant" <third_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Tommy B
Still rings true...................
Tom
<bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in message
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>I don't think anyone asked you. And since when is human behavior an
> equation where one side balances the other. Next you'll be telling us
> that murder is OK if you grew up deprived in the ghetto blah, blah!
>
> I'm sorry, but yes the artist formerly known as Prince (yadda yadda) IS
> quite talented and has proved it many times over. He is also famous for
> his total asshole behavior. Talented and a Jerk. They DO NOT cancel
> out. They only equal Talented Jerk.
>
> Benj
>
Nappy
"Jim" <hawki...@sum.net> wrote in message
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In '78 or '79 I worked at the studio where Prince did his 'first' record. Or
one of his first.. I don't recall how long he was there. He was a complete
ass. I think his music, while well composed.. is largely forgettable. With
perhaps the exception of tunes others have done. He's a fag.
hank alrich
> Which is just to show that some people are impressed easily ;)
It's silly to pretend "Prints" doesn't have chops, whatever else one
thinks of him.
--
ha
Predrag Trpkov
> In '78 or '79 I worked at the studio where Prince did his 'first' record.
Or
> one of his first.. I don't recall how long he was there. He was a complete
> ass. I think his music, while well composed.. is largely forgettable. With
> perhaps the exception of tunes others have done. He's a fag.
How would you describe yourself, Nappy?
George Gleason
"Predrag Trpkov" <predrag.t...@ri.htnet.hr> wrote in message
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this is great !!!!I get two plonks from one post
George
Richard Smol
He could have been a good session musician, if it weren't for his
bloated ego.
RS
Phildo
"Rob Adelman" <journ...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> bja...@iwaynet.net wrote:
>> I don't think anyone asked you. And since when is human behavior an
>> equation where one side balances the other. Next you'll be telling us
>> that murder is OK if you grew up deprived in the ghetto blah, blah!
>>
>> I'm sorry, but yes the artist formerly known as Prince (yadda yadda) IS
>> quite talented and has proved it many times over. He is also famous for
>> his total asshole behavior. Talented and a Jerk. They DO NOT cancel
>> out. They only equal Talented Jerk.
>
> What the hell you going on about? Famous for his total asshole
> behavior? News to me.
You've obviously never worked with him then.
> I've yet to observe any of this famous "asshole behavior" you speak of.
Go on tour with him then.
Phildo
Tommy B
I find in the music biz, is chock full of assholes.
So what? If you're working for someone, don't expect him or her to do
anything except pay you!
So when someone is a nice person, it's a bonus.
I stayed in hotel in LA, and his band was there.
HE stayed in a Five star. I guess that says it all.
Tom
Lorin David Schultz
You killfile Predrag at your own peril though. He be a sharp cookie.
Hm, now that I think about it, maybe I should just say he's
well-informed and smart. I'm not sure a sharp cookie would be a good
thing. Intra-oral haemorrhaging and all that...
--
"It CAN'T be too loud... some of the red lights aren't even on yet!"
- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good
(Remove spamblock to reply)
George Gleason
"Lorin David Schultz" <Lorin@DAMNSPAM!v5v.ca> wrote in message
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> "George Gleason" <tbmo...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>
>> this is great !!!!I get two plonks from one post
>
>
> You killfile Predrag at your own peril though. He be a sharp cookie.
>
> Hm, now that I think about it, maybe I should just say he's well-informed
> and smart. I'm not sure a sharp cookie would be a good thing. Intra-oral
> haemorrhaging and all that...
>
Phil Allison is smart, but a complete jerk as well, same with predrag
I betI have earned more than a few plonks myself in the last 7 years
life goes on.
some people simply don't play well together, so I put them in a seperate
sand box
hank alrich
> hank alrich wrote:
> > Richard Smol wrote:
> > > Which is just to show that some people are impressed easily ;)
> > It's silly to pretend "Prints" doesn't have chops, whatever else one
> > thinks of him.
> He could have been a good session musician, if it weren't for his
> bloated ego.
Instead he made a movie that took in a quarter of a billion dollars. You
think maybe his earnings are somewhat greater than most good session
players?
--
ha
Predrag Trpkov
"George Gleason" <tbmo...@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> lots of smart people get killfiled for being dumbasses
> Phil Allison is smart, but a complete jerk as well, same with predrag
> I betI have earned more than a few plonks myself in the last 7 years
> life goes on.
> some people simply don't play well together, so I put them in a seperate
> sand box
I wouldn't know about the plonks, but I've never called anybody names on
Usenet. You do it all the time and you do it not because you yourself get
insulted, but because you are unable to control yourself and accept
differing views on rather mundane topics such as Behringer's bussiness
practices.
If I were you, I'd have avoided mentioning Phil Allison. Still, thanks for
the compliment. He's a very knowledgeable guy.
Predrag
Steve King
news:1haykph.nch65917szjonN%walk...@thegrid.net...
Envy colors perceptions.
Steve King
rickymix
also written a huge volume of incredibly mediocre stuff, (like the one
he played on SNL). But I guess you could say the same about Dylan and
others.
I worked for Motown legends Brian and Eddie Holland during the
80's, and they used to lean over backwards at that time trying to make
their records sound like Prince. I remember telling them more than
once that Prince should be trying to sound like them, not the other way
around! :>)
Oh, and my studio partner Frankie co-produced that Martika album
with Prince. That thing had to struggle to achieve mediocrity! But
the studio got payed well, so I didn't mind.
As for Prince's assholic arrogant attitude, that's just carrying
on the tradition of Mick Jagger, Elvis, Sinatra, etc. Doesn't do much
for me, but it sure seems to impress the masses. I suppose that's one
reason I don't think much of a lot of Prince's songs; the lyrics too
often dwell on how great he apparently thinks he is. I mean, it's
beyond narcissism. "Hunka hunka burnin' luuuvv" was modest by
comparison! :>)
But I stand by my original point, that Prince is right up there
with anyone in pop music history in terms of vocal and instrumental
chops and as an overall performer. Session player? Please. That's
star quality, whether or not his music suits our taste. But as a
writer he's nowhere near Lennon/MacCartney, Holland/Dozier/Holland,
Dylan, Hank Williams, even Jagger/Richards or many others.
IMHO,YMMV.
Cheers, Rick.
Phildo
"rrrant" <third_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
>> Prick may be very talented but that is no excuse for being such an awful
>> human being, especially one who calls himself a xtian. There is NEVER any
>> excuse for being that much of a jerk.
>
> You obviously know very little about the guy other than what is fed to
> you by the press.
Actually I've done a couple of gigs with him, travelled with his crew while
on tour and seen his behaviour first hand. The brother of a guitarist I used
to live with was his guitar tech plus I heard all sorts of horror stories
when I was working at Brit Row who were providing his PA at the time.
>Ok he can be a jerk at times, but 'awful human being'
> seems extreme - where does he sit with you compared to someone like
> Hitler then?
Now you are just being silly so you can hero-worship your beloved idol.
Prick's ego puts Hitler's to shame.
>I think Prince has brought more good to the world through
> pleasure and helping out some folk in need than he has bad - can't
> really think of any pain and suffering he's responsible for.
Talk to any of his crew. They will tell you a VERY different story. He's
been through more crew than any other artist.
Phildo
Bob Cain
rickymix wrote:
> As for Prince's assholic arrogant attitude, that's just carrying
> on the tradition of Mick Jagger, Elvis, Sinatra, etc. Doesn't do much
> for me, but it sure seems to impress the masses.
One thing I've always felt about Prince, beyond his extravagant talent,
is that he is _very_ smart and _very_ calculated and controlled in
everything he does publicly. Anybody know him personally?
Bob
--
"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler."
A. Einstein
Alton
> equation where one side balances the other. Next you'll be telling us
> that murder is OK if you grew up deprived in the ghetto blah, blah!
>
> I'm sorry, but yes the artist formerly known as Prince (yadda yadda) IS
> quite talented and has proved it many times over.
Perhaps he's conned folks like yourself into believing how "talented" he is.
The little one-trick pony pissant is 2% actual ability and 98% preening,
Little Lord Fauntleroy attitude. Like Madonna, his primary talent is knowing
what the idiot masses will mistake for substance. He'd be working at
McDonald's if he were depending on me to buy his albums.
Alton
"John Deans" <***john.deans1@****ntlworld.com***> wrote in message
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> the article clams prince is now a Jehovah witness this is not the same as
> mainstream, or fundamentalist , Christianity they differ and argue like
mad
> John D
So, he's the artist formerly known as a X-tian?
rickymix
> The little one-trick pony pissant is 2% actual ability and 98% preening...
Purely in terms of "chops", try playing the guitar parts and singing
the vocal parts that Prince did in that recent Saturday Night Live gig.
Now try doing them at the same time. Then try doing it in front of
millions of people on national TV. The best guitarist you know could
probably play the guitar parts and the best singer you know could do
the vocals, but I defy you to find anyone who could do both.
I'm not a huge Prince fan either, but we have to give him credit
for having absolutely world class performing chops, whether or not we
dig his material or attitude.
Cheers, Rick.
Steve King
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>
>
> rickymix wrote:
>
>> As for Prince's assholic arrogant attitude, that's just carrying
>> on the tradition of Mick Jagger, Elvis, Sinatra, etc. Doesn't do much
>> for me, but it sure seems to impress the masses.
>
> One thing I've always felt about Prince, beyond his extravagant talent, is
> that he is _very_ smart and _very_ calculated and controlled in everything
> he does publicly. Anybody know him personally?
Not me. But, an actor acquaintance with whom I served with on several SAG
committees and who was a neighbor said that he was a friendly, decent person
who was very generous to school and neighborhood causes.
Steve King
Phildo
> If I were you, I'd have avoided mentioning Phil Allison. Still, thanks for
> the compliment. He's a very knowledgeable guy.
Yeah, if you want your toaster fixed.
Phildo
Nappy
TSWGAS
(tell someone who gives a shit)
Alton
"rickymix" <sno...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Alton wrote:
> > The little one-trick pony pissant is 2% actual ability and 98%
preening...
>
> Purely in terms of "chops", try playing the guitar parts and singing
> the vocal parts that Prince did in that recent Saturday Night Live gig.
> Now try doing them at the same time. Then try doing it in front of
> millions of people on national TV. The best guitarist you know could
> probably play the guitar parts and the best singer you know could do
> the vocals, but I defy you to find anyone who could do both.
You don't get out much do you?
I know numerous players/singers who would embarrass the little pseudo-negro
or whatever race/species he declares himself to be. Frankly, I've never
liked his voice. He sounds like a gay chipmunk with adenoid problems stuck
halfway through puberty.
Fact is, I didn't even know who it was when I was half listening from the
other side of the house. I thought, Christ who is that off-pitch,
shitty-sounding singer? My first thought was that it was more "pathetic
wannabe American Idol contestant tryouts". Then I saw it was His Royal
Pansiness.
*change channel till it's over*
hank alrich
> You don't get out much do you?
If only you knew...
--
ha
rickymix
pro and con. Obviously it clouds their judgement, not to mention sense
of decorum. Personally I've always been somewhat bored by Prince,
except for feeling a little bit sorry for him, for some odd reason.
But damn, I wish I could play and sing that well! Though I
wouldn't trade it for being able to write. But he's made a good career
from his talents, whatever we think of them. Good for him. No need to
piss on him just because he's pissy. Kettle black, that.
Cheers, Rick.
Dr. Dolittle
Alton angrily spewed:
> I know numerous players/singers who would embarrass the little pseudo-negro
> or whatever race/species he declares himself to be. Frankly, I've never
> liked his voice. He sounds like a gay chipmunk with adenoid problems stuck
> halfway through puberty.
Small dick syndrome by chance?
Dr. Dolittle
Dr. Dolittle wrote:
> Small dick syndrome by chance?
>
Meant for Alton, not Prince. ;)
Alton
"Dr. Dolittle" <p...@spamblasters.not> wrote in message
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I don't know if that's another of his shortcomings, I've never asked him.
However, it would certainly explain a lot.
Curious that this comes to your mind though.
hank alrich
> Alton angrily spewed:
Alton has homophobia. In some cases that's worse than West Nile virus.
This prevents him from making rational assessments of a muso's
capabilities because he's clenching his buns too tightly.
A sign of musical education is to understand what is good about music
one does not prefer. It's easy to think what one likes is good and what
one doesn't like is bad. But the world isn't like that if brains come
into the picture. I dislike a lot of really great music, and I have
enjoyed some atrocious stuff, too.
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ha
Alton
"Dr. Dolittle" <p...@spamblasters.not> wrote in message
>
>
> Dr. Dolittle wrote:
>
> > Small dick syndrome by chance?
> >
>
> Meant for Alton, not Prince. ;)
I can only claim about 4 inches but I'm told not everybody has one that
wide.
Alton
> Alton has homophobia.
Nah, just a healthy disdain for overhyped punks.
hank alrich
> "Dr. Dolittle" wrote...
>
> > > I know numerous players/singers who would embarrass the little
> pseudo-negro
> > > or whatever race/species he declares himself to be. Frankly, I've never
> > > liked his voice. He sounds like a gay chipmunk with adenoid problems
> stuck
> > > halfway through puberty.
> > Small dick syndrome by chance?
> I don't know if that's another of his shortcomings, I've never asked him.
> However, it would certainly explain a lot.
> Curious that this comes to your mind though.
Yep, since he's taliking about you.
Did anybody famous ever say, "Shortcomings are better than no comings at
all"?
--
ha
Dr. Dolittle
Alton wrote:
> Nah, just a healthy disdain for overhyped punks.
Doesn't sound too healthy to me. Perhaps you should have that looked at?
ma...@particlesalad.com
>
> And there we can agree. What is it that so many people enjoy about
> Coldplay..........
Umm... some of the songs? Yea, I like some Coldplay songs, some of the
ones where they're not trying to to sound like Radiohead.
ma...@particlesalad.com
> He could have been a good session musician, if it weren't for his
> bloated ego.
>
> RS
>
I don't know of any session musicians who have a big ego... :)
Sean
"hank alrich" <walk...@thegrid.net> wrote:
Yes. One must even admit that the BeeGees are really, really good at what
they do.
But how about Celine Dion? Do we have to take open-mindedness that far?
rickymix
>... I dislike a lot of really great music, and I have enjoyed some atrocious stuff, too.
Which explains why Hankster is such a big fan of my wacky music!
(Hi Hank! :>)
Rick.
Tommy B
WOW, does he need a facelift.
Strange, but I never think that when I see Dylan!
Tom
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George Gleason
"Tommy B" <mrt...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Well, the first thing I thought when I saw Prince,
> WOW, does he need a facelift.
> Strange, but I never think that when I see Dylan!
>
>
> Tom
I think Prince and Phil Collins should form a band
call it the " egos"
two completely talentless wastes who every utterance only serves to annoy
the men, make children cry and women hide
george
hank alrich
> hank alrich wrote:
> > Alton has homophobia. In some cases that's worse than West Nile virus.
> > This prevents him from making rational assessments of a muso's
> > capabilities because he's clenching his buns too tightly.
> > A sign of musical education is to understand what is good about music
> > one does not prefer. It's easy to think what one likes is good and what
> > one doesn't like is bad. But the world isn't like that if brains come
> > into the picture. I dislike a lot of really great music, and I have
> > enjoyed some atrocious stuff, too.
> Yes. One must even admit that the BeeGees are really, really good at what
> they do.
> But how about Celine Dion? Do we have to take open-mindedness that far?
She is really good at what she does. That doesn't mean I want to hear
it. So in this case I remain open-minded, but I close my ears.
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ha
hank alrich
I was only in it for the tortilla.
--
ha
Predrag Trpkov
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Fortunately, this thread is a celebration of humility.
Phildo
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>
> Alton has homophobia. In some cases that's worse than West Nile virus.
> This prevents him from making rational assessments of a muso's
> capabilities because he's clenching his buns too tightly.
He should get on fine with Mike Dobony then. The guy actually posted on
aapls that one of the aims of his ministry is to help homosexuals recover
from their illness.
Phildo
Steve King
I'll sing my answer. emmmgghh, hack, ahck.
mi-mi-mi-mi-Mi-Mi-MI-MI-ME-ME-MEEE-MEEEEEE!
Steve King
Dr. Dolittle
George Gleason wrote:
> I think Prince and Phil Collins should form a band
> call it the " egos"
> two completely talentless wastes
Yeah right, no talent there. (..)
Sean
"hank alrich" <walk...@thegrid.net> wrote:
Yeah, I guess. I suppose it's all in the definition of "what she does."
Kicking the snot out of lovely melodies by bellowing like a harpooned
sea-cow...but very much in key. Yeah, she's got that territory dominated.
david correia
Chihuahua.
David Correia
www.Celebrationsound.com
bja...@iwaynet.net
> Famous for his total asshole
> behavior? News to me.
> I've yet to observe any of this famous
> "asshole behavior" you speak of.
I take it this means you've never worked for him.
Personally I've never met the dude. I have no direct knowledge of his
personality. But I did not just pull these remarks out of my butt
either. They came from two people who worked for him for a period of
time.
That he is smart talented and original certainly seems true to me. In
fact the one trait that I noticed most was that the guy is a super
judge of musical talent. He has hired a lot of truly killer sidemen
(and women) but the ones I spoke to did not stay and left VERY unhappy
with him. A fluke or a pattern? I don't know. But the legend is it
isn't a fluke.
So go get a job with him and report back. Although I know *I* could
never work for him now that I've heard the term "Human Chihuahua". I'd
die every time I saw him! :-)
rickymix
> I just had to add that I laugh every time I see Prince called "The Human
> Chihuahua".
Hi David!
Have you seen that elsewhere? Dang! I thought I'd coined the phrase.
I guess it's a pretty obvious comparison. Oh well....
Cheers, Rick.
Dr. Dolittle
bja...@iwaynet.net wrote:
> But I did not just pull these remarks out of my butt either. They
> came from two people who worked for him for a period of time.
Well then, it must be true. (..)
Tommy B
You might not be able to work for him,
but I don't think I'll ever be able to see or hear him again,
with thinking of it.
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom
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