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J.M. Mathieu

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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Finally, I tried a mod on my 107 that seems to remove the tubessence effect,
and yes it is now far more precise, dynamic, with the same gain. Has anybody
the same experience ?

Jean-Marie Mathieu

Scott Dorsey

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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In article <8c9h5i$qm5$1...@wanadoo.fr>,

Yes. But why does this surprise you?
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Monte P McGuire

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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In article <8c9h5i$qm5$1...@wanadoo.fr>,
J.M. Mathieu <jm.ma...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>Finally, I tried a mod on my 107 that seems to remove the tubessence effect,
>and yes it is now far more precise, dynamic, with the same gain. Has anybody
>the same experience ?

What did you do to it?


Regards,

Monte McGuire
mcg...@world.std.com

KtuChgo

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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Yes, Please tell us about this mod. I would really like to improve the sound
of mine. Keith

David Morgan (MAMS)

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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KtuChgo wrote in message <20000404014333...@ng-da1.aol.com>...

>Yes, Please tell us about this mod. I would really like to improve the sound
>of mine. Keith

Build a solid state network on a blank tube base and replace the tube (?)

Just kidding..... but not exactly impractical. Probably reduce the noise.

David Morgan (MAMS)
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (972) 622-1972
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J.M. Mathieu

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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KtuChgo <ktu...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message :
20000404014333...@ng-da1.aol.com...

> Yes, Please tell us about this mod. I would really like to improve the
sound
> of mine. Keith

Try this simple thing :
- open your 107
- get the actual value of the potentiometers beside the tube, VR104 and
VR204
(if you have to go back)
- turn the potentiometers on the left

That's all...
It doesn't change the level of the noise, but it gives more accurate high
ends.
Tanks to Scott who gave me the clue in an old post.
Good luck.

Jean-Marie MATHIEU

BrianVnZnt

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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>From: "J.M. Mathieu" jm.ma...@wanadoo.fr

>Try this simple thing :
>- open your 107
>- get the actual value of the potentiometers beside the tube, VR104 and
>VR204

I understand *get the actual value...* but what do I do with the value?

>(if you have to go back)
>- turn the potentiometers on the left
>
>That's all...

I understand *turn the pots on the left* but look, I happen to have one of
these things, and I didn't know it could actually be used for anything, and if
I open this thing up and find the pots on the left, do I turn them until it
sounds good? Is that it? Is it possible there's some practical limit to the
turning? Or should I just crank away until cows come home?

Also, what on earth do you use it for? Is it anygood on anything? I'd like to
know, because I was ready to chuck mine.

BrianV

J.M. Mathieu

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Apr 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/5/00
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> I understand *get the actual value...* but what do I do with the value?

Nothing, but if you want to rollback your mods it will be useful.


>
> >(if you have to go back)
> >- turn the potentiometers on the left

Oh my english... It's not the potentiometers on the left, but the VR104 and
VR204 that you have to crank contrary clockwise

>
> I understand *turn the pots on the left* but look, I happen to have one of
> these things, and I didn't know it could actually be used for anything,
and if
> I open this thing up and find the pots on the left, do I turn them until
it
> sounds good?

Yes, but I think these pots dose the tubessence effect, and now I am sure
the less tubessence effect the better the 107 is.

> Also, what on earth do you use it for? Is it anygood on anything? I'd like
to
> know, because I was ready to chuck mine.

On saturday i recorded a concert in the local music school with my modified
107. The wind instruments were really fine.
I was able to compare with earlier similar recordings in the same hall,
before the 107 mods. All is more dynamic and the space is more realistic.
The noise of the 107 isn't a problem for me because I often record public
classical concerts and there are other noises...

Jean-Marie Mathieu

Paolo Tramannoni

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Apr 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/6/00
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In article <8c9h5i$qm5$1...@wanadoo.fr>, "J.M. Mathieu"
<jm.ma...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Finally, I tried a mod on my 107 that seems to remove the tubessence
> effect, and yes it is now far more precise, dynamic, with the same gain. Has
> anybody the same experience ?

Jean-Marie,

Can you explain what this "mod" is?

Thank you,
Paolo

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Paolo Tramannoni
Porto Recanati, Italy
p.t...@fastnet.it

Paolo Tramannoni

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Apr 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/6/00
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In article <8cc9nr$39t$1...@wanadoo.fr>, "J.M. Mathieu"
<jm.ma...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Try this simple thing :
> - open your 107
> - get the actual value of the potentiometers beside the tube, VR104 and

> VR204 (if you have to go back)


> - turn the potentiometers on the left

This means that you are switching tubes off. So, couldn't Aphex produce
a cheaper solid-state preamp/converter?

I suspect you could improve the tube sound by replacing the original
tubes with better ones.

Paolo Tramannoni

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Apr 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/6/00
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In article <8cesc7$hh8$1...@wanadoo.fr>, "J.M. Mathieu"
<jm.ma...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Yes, but I think these pots dose the tubessence effect, and now I am sure
> the less tubessence effect the better the 107 is.

Those should be the bias pots. If you turn them fully counter-clockwise,
there is no more bias, and the tube can't work at all.

Scott Dorsey

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Apr 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/6/00
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In article <p.tram-8291FF....@news.ac.fastnet.it>,
Paolo Tramannoni <p.t...@fastnet.it> wrote:
>In article <8cc9nr$39t$1...@wanadoo.fr>, "J.M. Mathieu"
><jm.ma...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> Try this simple thing :
>> - open your 107
>> - get the actual value of the potentiometers beside the tube, VR104 and
>> VR204 (if you have to go back)
>> - turn the potentiometers on the left
>
>This means that you are switching tubes off. So, couldn't Aphex produce
>a cheaper solid-state preamp/converter?

Not entirely. The tube is still in there a bit.

And yes, they could produce a cheaper solid state preamp, but people wouldn't
buy it because it doesn't have tubes. The Symetrix 302 is basically the same
front end without that ghastly tube stage, but you'll notice that the Aphex
sells a lot more units than the (better sounding and cheaper) Symetrix.

>I suspect you could improve the tube sound by replacing the original
>tubes with better ones.

Maybe, but again they run the tube in a very strange way....

David Morgan (MAMS)

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Paolo Tramannoni wrote in message ...
>In article <8cesc7$hh8$1...@wanadoo.fr>, "J.M. Mathieu"

><jm.ma...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but I think these pots dose the tubessence effect, and now I am sure
>> the less tubessence effect the better the 107 is.
>
>Those should be the bias pots. If you turn them fully counter-clockwise,
>there is no more bias, and the tube can't work at all.
>
>Paolo

Gee.... then I was sort of correct in saying that you could build a solid state
network on a blank tube base and loose the tooob all together. This is
much much easier. ;-) Just turn it off !!!

David Morgan (MAMS)
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (972) 622-1972
________________________________________

Main Street Studio, Garland, TX (972) 487-4045


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