Alas, Arnii....
George M. Middius
You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of self-awareness".
Funny stuff, that.
Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to crticique all the
mere Normals. It's up to us to speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
Boon
Arny ran up against his old nemesis Scott Wheeler over at RAHE this
past week. It seems that Arny can't escape a total drubbing these
days:
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On Nov 28, 8:47 am, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> <S888Wh...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>>> It's a classic case of the Boiled frog syndrome.
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog
> <no relevant response, persumably it is agreed that audiophiles who prefer
> LPs behave in accordance with the example of a boiled frog>
Wow, you just snipped my relevant response and then denied it's
existance. Here was my response as was posted and then snipped by
you.
"No. your argument was based on a premise that does not exist if the
listener is exposed to a reference that is not subject to the same
slow drift. That makes your argument invalid."
> >>> That would be a legitimate point if the audiophile in
> >>> question only had a collection of records that were old
> >>> and never listened to a new LP or CD.
> >> Illogical assumption.
> > No. your argument was based on a premise that does not
> > exist if the listener is exposed to a reference that is
> > not subject to the same slow drift.
> Since the original master recordings for LPs are almost completely
> unobtainable to most who listen to LPs, they have no stable reference,
> right?
It seems you do not understand the nature of your own argument. "The
story is generally told in a figurative context, with the upshot
being
that people should make themselves aware of gradual change lest they
suffer a catastrophic loss." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog
The gradual loss in this case is due to alleged record wear. So one
must not be exposed to new records or CDs of the same recordings
otherwise they would have an immediate reference with which to
measure
any such catastophic loss. So unless you are speaking about some
unnamed audiophile who only listens to old records over and over
again
at a steady rate for each record and never listens to any new LPs or
CDs of the same title your argument fails because it is based on a
requisite condition that does not exist.
> >> It is quite clear that many people prefer who prefer LPs
> >> over CDs, do so despite the LP's attendant vastly
> >> greater noise and distortion. Therefore, they must
> >> consider noise and distortion to be a desirable
> >> property of a recording, no?
> > No. In many cases the noise on vinyl is either inaudible
> > or indistinguishable as noise.
> Isn't it true that people with normal hearing rarely have problems hearing
> the tics, pops, noise and distortion that is well-known to be inherent in
> the LP format?
Tics and pops are not inherent in the medium. They are due to damage
or manufacturer defects.
> I have never heard a LP played without additional computer
> processing, without audible noise and distortion, and that includes many
> instances of demonstrations of so-called high end LP playback equipment at
> high end audio shows and audiophile homes.
Your personal testimonial does not represent any universal reality.
It
would be interesting to put your alleged hearing acuity to the test
with a propper high end rig and a pristine new vinyl pressing form a
top flight maker of audiophile vinyl under blind conditions. I don't
think you would fair as well as you seem to think.
> > In many cases the other
> > differences are the over riding factor. Your argument is
> > based on a false premise and follows with a nonsequitor.
> What is the false premise - have I somehow managed to avoid hearing some
> magical vinyl playback system that exists in some hidden place?
It would seem that you have managed to avoid hearing quality vinyl
playback or that your biases are so intrusive that you have managed
to
fail to appreciate the virtues of such playback. Again, I think it
would be most revealing to put you to the test on this subject under
blind conditions.
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> >>>> The Ray Charles CDs I have always sounded better than
> >>>> the best vinyl of the day.
> >>> Your assertion seems to imply that you made some sort of
> >>> actual comparison between CDs and LPs of some Ray
> >>> Charles
> >>> recordings.
> >> Sure, and my comparisons were at least as rigorous as
> >> many that others have given here.
> >>> Can you give us the specifics?
> >> Since the local standard for doing so is abysmally low,
> >> vis-a-vis a recent discussion of MP3s, there is no need
> >> for me to do so.
> > "Tu quoque Literally, you too. This is an attempt to
> > justify wrong action because someone else also does it.
> > "My evidence may be invalid, but so is yours."
> >http://www.theskepticsguide.org/logicalfallacies.asp
> This appears to be a pompous observation of something that was already
> stated quite clearly.
"Pompous?" OK, ad hominem rears it's ugly head. But please excuse me
for not accusing you of insincerity. I was trying to keep things
civil
and on subject. I'm not sure how the obviousness of your use of Tu
quoque" in any way excuses you from offering up some meaningful
information on your alleged comparisons of Ray Charles CDs and LPs.
> >>> What Ray Charles recordings were used?
> >> Lots of them, far more than the numbers of MP3 files
> >> that have been used by conference members while making
> >> even more sweeping generalizations.
> > You used lots of them and yet you can't recall a single
> > title.
> I'm not good with names.
You managed to remember the name of the HFN test record you used if
not the actual issue. If you own these items it really isn't a matter
of memory. It's a matter of picking them up and looking at them.
> I sold off my collection of Ray Charles LPs (some of which were european
> pressings) in the middle 1980s. Therefore, I can't just look at my
> collection and retrieve the titles.
Really? That presents a pretty big problem with your alleged
comparisons between the Ray Charles CDs and LPs. There were only
three
commercial CDs of Ray Charles music available before 1989. So your
claim that you compared "lots" of Ray Charles LPs with the CDs back
in
the mid eighties looks pretty dubious.
> > It would seem that any body who owns several
> > titles by any artist on both LP and CD would be a big
> > enough fan that he or she would easily be able to cite
> > titles from memory alone.
> I'm not good with names.
Apparently you are not so good with dates either.
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> > How is it that you own "lots"
> > of Ray Charles LPs and CDs and you can't name any of
> > them?
> I'm not good with names, and almost all of my recordings are in storage so I
> can't just look at a cabinet and see what I own.
> >>> How did you do the comparisons?
> >> Just listening. The differences were mind-blowing.
> >>> Were any measures taken to control bias effects?
> >> Sure, in both cases I owned the recordings and so
> >> obviously I was not biased towards either one. ;-)
> >>> Which sepcific Ray Charles masterings on CD are you
> >>> refering to?
> >> Sorry, but my CD collection is in storage.
> >>> What do you mean the "best vinyl of the day?" Which
> >>> vinyl versions were used for comparisons?
> >> The vinyl of the day would be vinyl that was current in
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> > That puts your alleged comparisons in perspective. No
> > bias controls. No titles cited. No knowledge of what
> > masterings were used.
> Thank you for invalidating this evidence, which is about the same quality as
> everything that you have presented. Remember that I have also presented the
> results of proper scientific tests and referreed scientific papers. You have
> not.
Unlike you I can name the actual titles and issues of those titles
that have been compared and many of my comparisons were actually
done
under blind conditions. It would appear that one major difference
between my comparisons and yours is that mine actually happened. The
descrepencies in dates between your alleged comparisons and the
actual
existance of "lots" Ray Charles CDs calls your claim that you
actually did any such comparisons into question.
> > What happend to the LPs Arny?
> I sold them in the mid-1980s when I abandoned analog.
How did you manage to compare them with "lots" of CDs that did not
yet
exist?
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Boon
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> > You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
> > Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of self-awareness".
> > Funny stuff, that.
> > Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to crticique all the
> > mere Normals. It's up to us to speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
> Arny ran up against his old nemesis Scott Wheeler over at RAHE this
> past week. It seems that Arny can't escape a total drubbing these days:
[snip]
Turdy got in a couple of insults. So much for the "moderation", eh.
> > > What happend to the LPs Arny?
> > I sold them in the mid-1980s when I abandoned analog.
> How did you manage to compare them with "lots" of CDs that did not
> yet exist?
Apparently, that point was irrelavant™ because Mr. Shit already knew that
each and every CD sounds "better" than its vinyl predecessor.
The Krooborg is still a trailblazer in what it calls "self-awareness". ;-)
Arny Krueger
message news:3968j4182cb36qj5s...@4ax.com
> You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
You should talk about being ashamed, Middiot. You're so ashamed of what you
did to RAO that you refuse to allow yourself to be identified as a certain
person with legal name and address in the real world.
> Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
Interesting Middiot that with all your klaimed understanding of the Bible,
you can't see the obvious contradictions between her lifestyle and her
claimed Christian beliefs. She appears to be a Biblical Christian in
accordance with some version of the Bible with a number of pages removed.
:-(
> Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to
> crticique (sic) all the mere Normals.
As if one needs to be perfect to critique a bunch of losers like the lot of
you. Anybody who can walk and spit at the same time is way ahead of the lot
of you.
> It's up to us to speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
There's no evidence that you ever had one, Middiot!
Arny Krueger
news:8b9e181f-91a7-4d96...@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com
> On Dec 1, 9:06?am, George M. Middius
> <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
>>
>> Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
>> self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
>>
>> Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to
>> crticique all the mere Normals. It's up to us to
>> speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
>
> Arny ran up against his old nemesis Scott Wheeler
IOW, the man I beat the tar out of in California Superior Court without
lifting one finger?
LOL!
Well, I can see why he's still trying to even the score.
> over at
> RAHE this past week. It seems that Arny can't escape a total
> drubbing these
Nice job of obfuscating the fact that Scott has stuck any number of feet
into his mouth. Perhaps some of them are yours? ;-)
For example, Scott has informed us that there are such things as "valid" and
"invalid" perceptions. Oh, I'm sorry, you Middiots don't know enough about
perceptual psychology to know what a freshman mistake that was. Well,
whatever...
Scott has informed us that he has blow so much money on his near-SOTA vinyl
playback system that he can't afford a $50 test LP so he can prove its
performance to anybody who might be a little skeptical about his exceptional
claims.
Scott tells us that when he plays LPs on his magical LP player, there are no
audible tics, pops, flutter, wow, inner groove distortion, etc. etc. So
we've asked him to provide an unedited, unprocessed transcription of just
one LP side as evidence of this.
(Cut to Mission Impossible Theme playing in the background)
LOL!
Boon
> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8b9e181f-91a7-4d96...@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com
>
> > On Dec 1, 9:06?am, George M. Middius
> > <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
>
> >> Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> >> self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
>
> >> Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to
> >> crticique all the mere Normals. It's up to us to
> >> speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
>
> > Arny ran up against his old nemesis Scott Wheeler
>
> IOW, the man I beat the tar out of in California Superior Court without
> lifting one finger?
No, the man who realized you suffer from a personality disorder and
decided not to waste any more time on you.
>
> LOL!
>
> Well, I can see why he's still trying to even the score.
It's easy to do...you're a very easy target.
>
> > over at
> > RAHE this �past week. It seems that Arny can't escape a total
> > drubbing these
>
> Nice job of obfuscating the fact that Scott has stuck any number of feet
> into his mouth. Perhaps some of them are yours? ;-)
That makes no sense.
>
> For example, Scott has informed us that there are such things as "valid" and
> "invalid" perceptions. Oh, I'm sorry, you Middiots don't know enough about
> perceptual psychology to know what a freshman mistake that was. Well,
> whatever...
He's in the film industry and does not pretend to be an expert. But
since you haven't supplied a context for these comments and you're
famous for your poor reading comprehension, I'll assume that you
misunderstood what he said.
>
> Scott has informed us that he has blow so much money on his near-SOTA vinyl
> playback system that he can't afford a $50 test LP so he can prove its
> performance to anybody who might be a little skeptical about his exceptional
> claims.
I'd like to see proof of that claim. Scott is in the film industry,
and he's pretty well known. I seriously doubt he can't afford a $50
test LP.
>
> Scott tells us that when he plays LPs on his magical LP player, there are no
> audible tics, pops, flutter, wow, inner groove distortion, etc. etc. So
> we've asked him to provide an unedited, unprocessed transcription of just
> one LP side as evidence of this.
>
> (Cut to Mission Impossible Theme playing in the background)
Since Scott is a vinyl-only man (he didn't have a CD player in his
system when I visited), how is he supposed to produce a needle drop?
By the way, I own several dozen LPs with little or no surface noise as
well. And yes, a superior playback system has something to do with
that.
>
> LOL!
I don't really think you're laughing. I think you're close to the
end. And God won't be there to greet you.
Boon
Boon
> "George M. Middius" <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote in
> messagenews:3968j4182cb36qj5s...@4ax.com
>
> > You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
>
> You should talk about being ashamed, Middiot. You're so ashamed of what you
> did to RAO that you refuse to allow yourself to be identified as a certain
> person with legal name and address in the real world.
That's right. Arnold B. Krueger of 1600 Prestwick Road, Grosse Pointe
Woods, Michigan thinks it's a sign of courage to post your home
address on the Internet. Anyone who doesn't do it is a coward.
Let's ask Susan how she feels about it. Susie?
>
> > Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> > self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
>
> Interesting Middiot that with all your klaimed understanding of the Bible,
> you can't see the obvious contradictions between her lifestyle and her
> claimed Christian beliefs. She appears to be a Biblical Christian in
> accordance with some version of the Bible with a number of pages removed.
> :-(
Your version is missing the page about bearing false witness against
your neighbors. From what I understand, that's a pretty important
page.
>
> > Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to
> > crticique (sic) all the mere Normals.
>
> As if one needs to be perfect to critique a bunch of losers like the lot of
> you. Anybody who can walk and spit at the same time is way ahead of the lot
> of you.
When you say stuff like that, it's easy to imagine you shouting it
over your shoulder as you run away. It's easy to imagine your tear-
filled eyes and your bloody, snot-filled nose.
>
> > It's up to us to speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
>
> There's no evidence that you ever had one, Middiot!
Nor with any other human being, dumbass.
Boon
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> "George M. Middius" <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote in
> message news:3968j4182cb36qj5s...@4ax.com
>
> > You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
>
> You should talk about being ashamed, Middiot. You're so ashamed of what you
> did to RAO that you refuse to allow yourself to be identified as a certain
> person with legal name and address in the real world.
>
> > Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> > self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
>
> Interesting Middiot that with all your klaimed understanding of the Bible,
> you can't see the obvious contradictions between her lifestyle and her
> claimed Christian beliefs.
Lifestyle? Let's see: I work, I pay taxes, I help my parents, I
volunteer at a shelter at my church, I ride a bike, I collect
recordings, I garden, I go to concerts, I babysit...
> She appears to be a Biblical Christian in
> accordance with some version of the Bible with a number of pages removed.
> :-(
I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net, but I have to
say that I have no idea of what you are writing, and it's obvious that
you don't either. I'm gay. I naturally have a harmless attraction to
people of the same gender. Please point out where this is forbidden in
the Bible. Have your Strong's handy?
Perhaps we should discuss YOUR actions are not in accordance with
Biblical principles. Do you really want to go there?
Arny Krueger
> On Dec 1, 1:25?pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
> wrote:
>> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:8b9e181f-91a7-4d96...@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com
>>
>>> On Dec 1, 9:06?am, George M. Middius
>>> <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are
>>>> you.
>>
>>>> Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
>>>> self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
>>
>>>> Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to
>>>> crticique all the mere Normals. It's up to us to
>>>> speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
>>
>>> Arny ran up against his old nemesis Scott Wheeler
>>
>> IOW, the man I beat the tar out of in California
>> Superior Court without lifting one finger?
> No, the man who realized you suffer from a personality
> disorder and decided not to waste any more time on you.
Any excuse in a time of storm, eh Marc?
>> LOL!
>> Well, I can see why he's still trying to even the score.
>
> It's easy to do...you're a very easy target.
Maybe, but he's zero and what?
>>> over at
>>> RAHE this ?past week. It seems that Arny can't escape a
>>> total drubbing these
>>
>> Nice job of obfuscating the fact that Scott has stuck
>> any number of feet into his mouth. Perhaps some of them
>> are yours? ;-)
> That makes no sense.
Over your head Marc, for sure.
>> For example, Scott has informed us that there are such
>> things as "valid" and "invalid" perceptions. Oh, I'm
>> sorry, you Middiots don't know enough about perceptual
>> psychology to know what a freshman mistake that was.
>> Well, whatever...
> He's in the film industry and does not pretend to be an
> expert.
Come on Marc, Scott is a makeup artist who thinks he knows more about audio
than any EE. After all he's got some minor awards for his makeup, so of
course that grants him the right to act like he's got a PhD in *everything*.
> But since you haven't supplied a context for
> these comments and you're famous for your poor reading
> comprehension, I'll assume that you misunderstood what he
> said.
Again, over your head, Marc.
>> Scott has informed us that he has blow so much money on
>> his near-SOTA vinyl playback system that he can't afford
>> a $50 test LP so he can prove its performance to anybody
>> who might be a little skeptical about his exceptional
>> claims.
> I'd like to see proof of that claim.
Google is your friend. Or not. Mostly, not.
> Scott is in the
> film industry, and he's pretty well known. I seriously
> doubt he can't afford a $50 test LP.
He still lives with his folks, right?
>> Scott tells us that when he plays LPs on his magical LP
>> player, there are no audible tics, pops, flutter, wow,
>> inner groove distortion, etc. etc. So we've asked him to
>> provide an unedited, unprocessed transcription of just
>> one LP side as evidence of this.
>> (Cut to Mission Impossible Theme playing in the
>> background)
> Since Scott is a vinyl-only man (he didn't have a CD
> player in his system when I visited), how is he supposed
> to produce a needle drop?
You need to update your reading, Marc. He claims to be expert on the topic
of LP/CD comparisons. OTOH, given how his mind seems to work, maybe Scott
still doesn't have a CD player. He says that perception is everything but
doesn't know that the difference between illusions and not is important.
Maybe he perceives that he has a CD player.
<"Twilight Zone" theme playing in the background,>
Marc, nice of you to expose your ignorance again. Even, so quickly. Keep up
the good work!
> By the way, I own several dozen LPs with little or no
> surface noise as well. And yes, a superior playback
> system has something to do with that.
I'd challenge you to produce a CD of a LP side demonstrating that noise free
LP Marc, but I know that would again be...
OVER YOUR HEAD!!!!
Arny Krueger
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
Jenn, I think you did the best job you could of defending your Christian
faith when Boonie, George and the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
Keep up the good work. You're an inspiration to us all.
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> > > Arny ran up against his old nemesis Scott Wheeler
> >
> > IOW, the man I beat the tar out of in California Superior Court without
> > lifting one finger?
>
> No, the man who realized you suffer from a personality disorder and
> decided not to waste any more time on you.
CompulsiveDenialBorg has been screeching about "winning" a lawsuit he
ignored for several years. It's simply astonishing how deeply a psychosis
can take control of mind that once worked well enough to form the words
"I do."
> > Scott tells us that when he plays LPs on his magical LP player, there are no
> > audible tics[sic]
> Since Scott is a vinyl-only man (he didn't have a CD player in his
> system when I visited), how is he supposed to produce a needle drop?
Apparently, the Krooborg can hear tics. I wonder if he can see ticks?
(Cue Mr. Shit to post a dictionary reference to a parastic arachnid.)
> By the way, I own several dozen LPs with little or no surface noise as
> well. And yes, a superior playback system has something to do with that.
You know perfectly well that Turdborg can't accept a claim like that
without "proof".
> I don't really think you're laughing. I think you're close to the
> end. And God won't be there to greet you.
Arnii made his reservation for a seat in Heaven long ago, you know. And
the poor dumb Beast spends half his waking hours hoping against hope he
gets upgraded to Eternity Class.
George M. Middius
Another round of snot & lies, courtesy of Arnii Kroofeces.
> > You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
>
> You should not ask me to behave as if I were a christian, Geroge. If you didn't
> post on RAO I would have to go to many other groups to get the same quality
> of mockery you treat me to. I wish I could get the same intensity of humilation
> in the real world.
That super-coagulant works wonders, doesn't it? I'm sure Mrs. Krooborg got
tired of trying to get bloodstains out of your clothes a long time ago.
> > Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> > self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
> Oh my Supreme Master, I know not what I have klaimed of the Bible. Please, please,
> please tell me why I can't see the obvious contradictions between my fantasies and the
> pile of shit everybody knows I really am. Boo-hoo-hoo! A great number of pages
> were removed from my favorite roll of toilet paper and now I can't enjoy my dinner. :-(
That's hardly my fault, Arnii. I've been shouting from the mountaintop for
years. The number of Kroopologists keeps on dwindling. Soon you'll be the
only one left who doesn't realize what you are.
> > Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to
> > crticique (sic)[sic] all the mere Normals.
> I'm totally confused again, so I'm sprinkling "(sic)" everywhere in the hope of
> distracting you. Next week, I'll learn to eat and shit at the same time so I don't even
> have to waste water by flushing the toilet. ;-(
A "green" Krooborg? I wonder if the world is ready for such a thing.
> > It's up to us to speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
> You don't mind if I whack off while I'm reading your posts, do you? ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-( ;-(
> <ahhhhh!>
We've come to expect no more from you than this, Mr. Shit.
George M. Middius
Jenn said:
> > > Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> > > self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
> >
> > the obvious contradictions between her lifestyle and her
> > claimed Christian beliefs.
> Lifestyle? Let's see: I work, I pay taxes, I help my parents, I
> volunteer at a shelter at my church, I ride a bike, I collect
> recordings, I garden, I go to concerts, I babysit...
Arnii will only be satisfied when he sees you with a cock in your mouth.
> > She appears to be a Biblical Christian
> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net, but I have to
> say that I have no idea of what you are writing, and it's obvious that
> you don't either.
Arnii is a "Master of the Debating Trade". You can't get that title by going
to school, you know.
> I'm gay. I naturally have a harmless attraction to
> people of the same gender. Please point out where this is forbidden in
> the Bible. Have your Strong's handy?
There you go again! By virtue of its "Master of the Debating Trade" title,
the Krooborg is entitled to klaim "victory" at any point during a "debate".
Since it already declared "victory", your arguments are irrelavant™.
> Perhaps we should discuss YOUR actions are not in accordance with
> Biblical principles. Do you really want to go there?
Does a bear poop on Arnii's plate? ;-)
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> "Jenn" <jennconduct...@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
>
> Jenn, I think you did the best job you could of defending your Christian
> faith when Boonie, George and the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
As I said, I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net.
>
>
> Keep up the good work. You're an inspiration to us all.
I'm happy that I serve some purpose in your life, Arny. Now, about the
things you didn't address:
You: She appears to be a Biblical Christian in
accordance with some version of the Bible with a number of pages
removed.
:-(
Me: I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net, but I have
to
say that I have no idea of what you are writing, and it's obvious that
you don't either. I'm gay. I naturally have a harmless attraction to
people of the same gender. Please point out where this is forbidden in
the Bible. Have your Strong's handy?
Perhaps we should discuss YOUR actions are not in accordance with
Biblical principles. Do you really want to go there?
You: <chirp, chirp>
Boon
> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cbeb9e25-a733-4ce4...@w1g2000prm.googlegroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 1, 1:25?pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
> > wrote:
> >> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:8b9e181f-91a7-4d96...@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com
>
> >>> On Dec 1, 9:06?am, George M. Middius
> >>> <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are
> >>>> you.
>
> >>>> Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> >>>> self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
>
> >>>> Of course, you're nearly perfect, so you're entitled to
> >>>> crticique all the mere Normals. It's up to us to
> >>>> speculate that your logic chip is scrambled.
>
> >>> Arny ran up against his old nemesis Scott Wheeler
>
> >> IOW, the man I beat the tar out of in California
> >> Superior Court without lifting one finger?
> > No, the man who realized you suffer from a personality
> > disorder and decided not to waste any more time on you.
>
> Any excuse in a time of storm, eh Marc?
That's "any port in a storm." And it doesn't apply.
>
> >> LOL!
> >> Well, I can see why he's still trying to even the score.
>
> > It's easy to do...you're a very easy target.
>
> Maybe, but he's zero and what?
He used to be pretty good at making you spin in circles. The truth
is, several of us here recommended that he not take the argument
outside of Usenet, and he ultimately agreed. It had nothing to do
with any of your actions. IIRC, you stuck your head in the sand until
it all blew over.
>
> >>> over at
> >>> RAHE this ?past week. It seems that Arny can't escape a
> >>> total drubbing these
>
> >> Nice job of obfuscating the fact that Scott has stuck
> >> any number of feet into his mouth. Perhaps some of them
> >> are yours? ;-)
> > That makes no sense.
>
> Over your head Marc, for sure.
I doubt it. I'm a professional writer and editor. You're a
delusional Usenet nutcase who is famous for his marginal and inept
writing skills. If I tell you that something you said makes no sense,
then it makes no sense. Period.
>
> >> For example, Scott has informed us that there are such
> >> things as "valid" and "invalid" perceptions. Oh, I'm
> >> sorry, you Middiots don't know enough about perceptual
> >> psychology to know what a freshman mistake that was.
> >> Well, whatever...
> > He's in the film industry and does not pretend to be an
> > expert.
>
> Come on Marc, Scott is a makeup artist who thinks he knows more about audio
> than any EE. After all he's got some minor awards for his makeup, so of
> course that grants him the right to act like he's got a PhD in *everything*.
I didn't know an Emmy was a minor award. He had three of them. Beyond
that, he's a well-read guy. I've interacted with him on other forums
and he always brings thought-provoking ideas to the table. You, on
the other hand, need a URL to tell you what to think.
>
> > But since you haven't supplied a context for
> > these comments and you're famous for your poor reading
> > comprehension, I'll assume that you misunderstood what he
> > said.
>
> Again, over your head, Marc.
Again, not. It is impossible for you to go over my head. You are
suffering from either a narcissistic or paranoid personality
disorder. That means that while you may think you're going over
everyone's head, you're not.
>
> >> Scott has informed us that he has blow so much money on
> >> his near-SOTA vinyl playback system that he can't afford
> >> a $50 test LP so he can prove its performance to anybody
> >> who might be a little skeptical about his exceptional
> >> claims.
> > I'd like to see proof of that claim.
>
> Google is your friend. Or not. Mostly, not.
Another meaningless statement. But if I had said the same to you,
you'd call me a liar until I produced the exact URL. So...you're a
liar. It simply didn't happen. Again you are bearing false witness
against your neighbor.
>
> > Scott is in the
> > film industry, and he's pretty well known. �I seriously
> > doubt he can't afford a $50 test LP.
>
> He still lives with his folks, right?
I have no idea. When I visited his house, he seemed to be living with
his wife. Perhaps the "living with his folks" is another example of
you bearing false witness.
>
> >> Scott tells us that when he plays LPs on his magical LP
> >> player, there are no audible tics, pops, flutter, wow,
> >> inner groove distortion, etc. etc. So we've asked him to
> >> provide an unedited, unprocessed transcription of just
> >> one LP side as evidence of this.
> >> (Cut to Mission Impossible Theme playing in the
> >> background)
> > Since Scott is a vinyl-only man (he didn't have a CD
> > player in his system when I visited), how is he supposed
> > to produce a needle drop?
>
> You need to update your reading, Marc. He claims to be expert on the topic
> of LP/CD comparisons. OTOH, given how his mind seems to work, maybe Scott
> still doesn't have a CD player. He says that perception is everything but
> doesn't know that the difference between illusions and not is important.
> Maybe he perceives that he has a CD player.
That would be something Scott would need to answer, wouldn't it. But
we have a number of engineers on staff, and they all pretty much agree
that posting files of vinyl records online is a laughable conceit and
proves nothing..
>
> <"Twilight Zone" theme playing in the background,>
>
> Marc, nice of you to expose your ignorance again. Even, so quickly. Keep up
> the good work!
Yes, I'm ignorant of Scott's day to day life. So are you.
>
> > By the way, I own several dozen LPs with little or no
> > surface noise as well. �And yes, a superior playback
> > system has something to do with that.
>
> I'd challenge you to produce a CD of a LP side demonstrating that noise free
> LP Marc, but I know that would again be...
>
> OVER YOUR HEAD!!!!-
No...beneath me. Perhaps I'll have a real engineer explain it to you.
Boon
Boon
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
We were trashing your faith, which consists of going to church to
appease your wife while secretly breaking several commandments per
day. You left here for several days because you got your ass kicked.
You have no concept of God, Jesus or religion. You are a heathen and
a fool and a shitty webmaster.
Boon
Clyde Slick
>
> That's right. Arnold B. Krueger of 1600 Prestwick Road, Grosse Pointe
> Woods, Michigan
is that the lot with the brown scraggly shrubs and the cracked
foundation?
street photos from google maps go almost up to your house.
They run along Mack Ave with a 360 degree panorama
Clyde Slick
>
> Come on Marc, Scott is a makeup artist who thinks he knows more about audio
> than any EE. After all he's got some minor awards for his makeup, so of
> course that grants him the right to act like he's got a PhD in *everything*.
>
Arny is too shy to brag about his award:
http://www.jaguarautomobilia.com/jacpa4/images/7-5.jpg
Arny Krueger
> On Dec 1, 2:18?pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
Yes, that's why he tried to sue me, but got laughed out of court.
> The truth is, several of us here recommended that he not
> take the argument outside of Usenet, and he ultimately
> agreed. It had nothing to do with any of your actions.
> IIRC, you stuck your head in the sand until it all blew
> over.
No, it was a well-advised legal strategy.
>>>>> over at
>>>>> RAHE this ?past week. It seems that Arny can't escape
>>>>> a total drubbing these
>>
>>>> Nice job of obfuscating the fact that Scott has stuck
>>>> any number of feet into his mouth. Perhaps some of them
>>>> are yours? ;-)
>>> That makes no sense.
>> Over your head Marc, for sure.
> I doubt it.
Of course - that's typical of know-it-alls. You don't know what you don't
know.
> I'm a professional writer and editor.
Been there, done that. So what?
> You're a delusional Usenet nutcase who is famous for his
> marginal and inept writing skills.
Marc what you don't know is that your typical nutcases as well as morons
talk like that. They think that everybody they can't understand is crazy.
> If I tell you that
> something you said makes no sense, then it makes no
> sense. Period.
Thanks for sharing your ignorant attitude, Marc.
>>>> For example, Scott has informed us that there are such
>>>> things as "valid" and "invalid" perceptions. Oh, I'm
>>>> sorry, you Middiots don't know enough about perceptual
>>>> psychology to know what a freshman mistake that was.
>>>> Well, whatever...
>>> He's in the film industry and does not pretend to be an
>>> expert.
>
>> Come on Marc, Scott is a makeup artist who thinks he
>> knows more about audio than any EE. After all he's got
>> some minor awards for his makeup, so of course that
>> grants him the right to act like he's got a PhD in
>> *everything*.
> I didn't know an Emmy was a minor award. He had three of
> them. Beyond that, he's a well-read guy.
LOL! He pretty well outed himself on that topic. He's read a lot of stereo
ragazines and swallowed their lines, hooks, and sinkers. That's why his
breath is baited. ;-)
> I've
> interacted with him on other forums and he always brings
> thought-provoking ideas to the table.
That doesn't take much for a ignoramous like you, Marc.
> You, on the other
> and, need a URL to tell you what to think.
That comment just shows the low regard you have for well-documented claims.
>>> But since you haven't supplied a context for
>>> these comments and you're famous for your poor reading
>>> comprehension, I'll assume that you misunderstood what
>>> he said.
>>
>> Again, over your head, Marc.
> Again, not.
Again, thats what people with IQs below 80 say all the time. Had the
pleasure of their company when I was in the Army.
> It is impossible for you to go over my head.
LOL!
> You are suffering from either a narcissistic or paranoid
> personality disorder.
As usual Marc, you don't understand how psychology works. Everybody has a
little something going on in their life that deviates from perfect average
normalicy. The question is not that you are a little dysfunctional, but how
dysfunctional you are. For example, people who are truely pathological can't
form stable relationships or hold a given job. Sort of like you, eh Marc?
> That means that while you may
> think you're going over everyone's head, you're not.
You've proven yourself otherwise, Marc, even in just this one post.
>>>> Scott has informed us that he has blow so much money on
>>>> his near-SOTA vinyl playback system that he can't
>>>> afford a $50 test LP so he can prove its performance
>>>> to anybody who might be a little skeptical about his
>>>> exceptional claims.
>>> I'd like to see proof of that claim.
>
>> Google is your friend. Or not. Mostly, not.
> Another meaningless statement.
Again, over your head.
> But if I had said the
> same to you, you'd call me a liar until I produced the
> exact URL. So...you're a liar. It simply didn't happen.
> Again you are bearing false witness against your neighbor.
Wrong again Marc. Just because I know from experience that you will blunder
on in your errors and never admit them, even when faced with overwhelming
reliable proof, doesn't mean that I'm a liar. It means that just like many
of your former employers (their name is Legion, right?) I've got your
number.
>>> Scott is in the
>>> film industry, and he's pretty well known. ?I seriously
>>> doubt he can't afford a $50 test LP.
>>
>> He still lives with his folks, right?
> I have no idea. When I visited his house, he seemed to
> be living with his wife. Perhaps the "living with his
> folks" is another example of you bearing false witness.
Just goes to show that you don't get the concept of a question, Marc.
>>>> Scott tells us that when he plays LPs on his magical LP
>>>> player, there are no audible tics, pops, flutter, wow,
>>>> inner groove distortion, etc. etc. So we've asked him
>>>> to provide an unedited, unprocessed transcription of
>>>> just one LP side as evidence of this.
>>>> (Cut to Mission Impossible Theme playing in the
>>>> background)
>>> Since Scott is a vinyl-only man (he didn't have a CD
>>> player in his system when I visited), how is he supposed
>>> to produce a needle drop?
>> You need to update your reading, Marc. He claims to be
>> expert on the topic of LP/CD comparisons. OTOH, given
>> how his mind seems to work, maybe Scott still doesn't
>> have a CD player. He says that perception is everything
>> but doesn't know that the difference between illusions
>> and not is important. Maybe he perceives that he has a
>> CD player.
> That would be something Scott would need to answer,
But you tried to answer for him, Marc.
Then I caught you up short.
Then you started spinning.
> wouldn't it. But we have a number of engineers on staff,
> and they all pretty much agree that posting files of
> vinyl records online is a laughable conceit and proves
> nothing..
Engineers on what staff?
Get them to post here, we'll check them out.
>> <"Twilight Zone" theme playing in the background,>
>>
>> Marc, nice of you to expose your ignorance again. Even,
>> so quickly. Keep up the good work!
> Yes, I'm ignorant of Scott's day to day life. So are you.
But, I only asked questions about them. I didn't try to answer for him like
you did, Marc.
>>> By the way, I own several dozen LPs with little or no
>>> surface noise as well. ?And yes, a superior playback
>>> system has something to do with that.
>>
>> I'd challenge you to produce a CD of a LP side
>> demonstrating that noise free LP Marc, but I know that
>> would again be...
>>
>> OVER YOUR HEAD!!!!-
> No...beneath me. Perhaps I'll have a real engineer
> explain it to you.
You do that Marc. Have him post over in RAHE - if he can even master Usenet.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> For example, Scott has informed us that there are such things as "valid" and
> "invalid" perceptions. Oh, I'm sorry, you Middiots don't know enough about
> perceptual psychology to know what a freshman mistake that was. Well,
> whatever...
So somebody who perceives that LPs or tubes offer superior sound is
valid. Ditto anybody who perceives that a certain brand of amplifier
or cable is "better" than another.
Why do you rant on about them so much then, GOIA? Why do you go to
such great lengths to "prove" them "invalid"?
I can tell you why: you're crazy.
Arny Krueger
news:92d3f25f-7a36-4613...@k19g2000yqg.googlegroups.com
> On 1 Dec, 16:50, Boon <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> That's right. Arnold B. Krueger of 1600 Prestwick Road,
>> Grosse Pointe Woods, Michigan
>
> is that the lot with the brown scraggly shrubs and the
The shrubs are scraggly because this pictures were shot during the winter,
Art. Pictures like these are generally shot during the winter so that tree
leaves don't obscure the lines of sight. What did you do, live your whole
life in California or Florida?
> cracked foundation?
The foundation doesn't even show. The main floor is nearly at ground level,
and the basement is almost entirely buried.
But thanks for giving evidence that you may be delusional, Art.
> street photos from google maps go almost up to your house.
> They run along Mack Ave with a 360 degree panorama
Shows how ignorant you are, Art. Live search shows aerial shots from
Prestwick Road, Mack Avenue, and Severn road.
Trouble is, those pictures are over 3 years old, and show our house while it
was still under construction. For example, they show my old Mystique, which
was totaled by hitting a deer over 2 years ago.
Arny Krueger
wrote in message
news:6f5afd3d-c689-43f7...@w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
You're really *that* stupid, aren't you SHITR?
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "George M. Middius" <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote in
> > Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> > self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
>
> Interesting Middiot that with all your klaimed understanding of the Bible,
> you can't see the obvious contradictions between her lifestyle and her
> claimed Christian beliefs. She appears to be a Biblical Christian in
> accordance with some version of the Bible with a number of pages removed.
> :-(
The Old Testament is "pre" Christianity, GOIA. Now why would Jesus
have stopped the throng from stoning a hooker? And do you mix fabrics
and only eat Kosher?
How do *you* selectively edit your bible?
I'd have thunk an eggspurt like you would know that. ;-)
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> You have no concept of God, Jesus or religion. You are a heathen and
> a fool and a shitty webmaster.
I heard Arnii got fired from his webmaster job.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> In article <l_adnYeVhItozanUnZ2dnUVZ_r3in...@giganews.com>,
> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> > "George M. Middius" <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote in
> > messagenews:3968j4182cb36qj5s...@4ax.com
>
> > > You're still not ashamed of your past behavior, are you.
>
> > You should talk about being ashamed, Middiot. You're so ashamed of what you
> > did to RAO that you refuse to allow yourself to be identified as a certain
> > person with legal name and address in the real world.
>
> > > Maybe you should lecture Jenn some more on her "lack of
> > > self-awareness". Funny stuff, that.
>
> > Interesting Middiot that with all your klaimed understanding of the Bible,
> > you can't see the obvious contradictions between her lifestyle and her
> > claimed Christian beliefs.
>
> Lifestyle? Let's see: I work, I pay taxes, I help my parents, I
> volunteer at a shelter at my church, I ride a bike, I collect
> recordings, I garden, I go to concerts, I babysit...
>
> > She appears to be a Biblical Christian in
> > accordance with some version of the Bible with a number of pages removed.
> > :-(
>
> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net, but I have to
> say that I have no idea of what you are writing, and it's obvious that
> you don't either. I'm gay. I naturally have a harmless attraction to
> people of the same gender. Please point out where this is forbidden in
> the Bible. Have your Strong's handy?
>
> Perhaps we should discuss YOUR actions are not in accordance with
> Biblical principles. Do you really want to go there?
GOIA is obviously confusing the lesson the bible taught with some
personal bias. Are you surprised?
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <artygu...@hotmail.com>
> wrote in messagenews:6f5afd3d-c689-43f7...@w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
(Do you feel calling me "SHITR" is what Jesus would do, GOIA? Really?)
LoL.
I agree: it *is* stupid to worry so much about what others perceive.
I'm still very curious why you obsess over it.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> On Dec 1, 2:20 pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> > Keep up the good work. You're an inspiration to us all.
>
> We were trashing your faith, which consists of going to church to
> appease your wife while secretly breaking several commandments per
> day.
I think the root problem here is that GOIA actually thinks he's a
"good" Christian.
The poor confused psychotic blob probably feels superior to Mother
Theresa. I think I saw a picture once where she was dancing. LOL!
Clyde Slick
>
> Yes, that's why he tried to sue me, but got laughed out of court.
>
A plaintiff suing a turd
is just a bit absurd.
Its not somehting the regulars see in court every day.
Boon
Prove that he was laughed out of court. In reality, he decided not to
pursue it any further.
>
> > The truth is, several of us here recommended that he not
> > take the argument outside of Usenet, and he ultimately
> > agreed. �It had nothing to do with any of your actions.
> > IIRC, you stuck your head in the sand until it all blew
> > over.
>
> No, it was a well-advised legal strategy.
That would be: "Yes, it was a well-advised legal strategy." You're
contradicting yourself.
>
> >>>>> over at
> >>>>> RAHE this ?past week. It seems that Arny can't escape
> >>>>> a total drubbing these
>
> >>>> Nice job of obfuscating the fact that Scott has stuck
> >>>> any number of feet into his mouth. Perhaps some of them
> >>>> are yours? ;-)
> >>> That makes no sense.
> >> Over your head Marc, for sure.
> > I doubt it.
>
> Of course - that's typical of know-it-alls. You don't know what you don't
> know.
No, I know you're full of shit.
>
> > �I'm a professional writer and editor.
>
> Been there, done that. So what?
Really? Prove it.
>
> > You're a delusional Usenet nutcase who is famous for his
> > marginal and inept writing skills.
>
> Marc what you don't know is that your typical nutcases as well as morons
> talk like that. They think that everybody they can't understand is crazy.
Wow. You just tried to argue with me about your inept writing
skills...using inept writing skills! LOL!
>
> > If I tell you that
> > something you said makes no sense, then it makes no
> > sense. �Period.
>
> Thanks for sharing your ignorant attitude, Marc.
No, I'm a professional. That's my professional observation. You
can't write.
>
> >>>> For example, Scott has informed us that there are such
> >>>> things as "valid" and "invalid" perceptions. Oh, I'm
> >>>> sorry, you Middiots don't know enough about perceptual
> >>>> psychology to know what a freshman mistake that was.
> >>>> Well, whatever...
> >>> He's in the film industry and does not pretend to be an
> >>> expert.
>
> >> Come on Marc, Scott is a makeup artist who thinks he
> >> knows more about audio than any EE. After all he's got
> >> some minor awards for his makeup, so of course that
> >> grants him the right to act like he's got a PhD in
> >> *everything*.
> > I didn't know an Emmy was a minor award. He had three of
> > them. �Beyond that, he's a well-read guy.
>
> LOL! He pretty well outed himself on that topic. He's read a lot of stereo
> ragazines and swallowed their lines, hooks, and sinkers. That's why his
> breath is baited. ;-)
Nope, sorry. You stuck your head in the sand about the 3 Emmys, and
you're making an assumption that when I'm talking about being well-
read, I'm talking specifically about audio. You lose.
>
> > �I've
> > interacted with him on other forums and he always brings
> > thought-provoking ideas to the table.
>
> That doesn't take much for a ignoramous like you, Marc.
Interacting with others makes a person an ignoramus? Does that
explain why you're a shut-in?
>
> > �You, on the other
> > and, need a URL to tell you what to think.
>
> That comment just shows the low regard you have for well-documented claims.
URLs and well-documented claims are not mutually exclusive terms. But
thanks Arny for admitting that you believe everything you read on the
Internet.
>
> >>> But since you haven't supplied a context for
> >>> these comments and you're famous for your poor reading
> >>> comprehension, I'll assume that you misunderstood what
> >>> he said.
>
> >> Again, over your head, Marc.
> > Again, not.
>
> Again, thats what people with IQs below 80 say all the time. Had the
> pleasure of their company when I was in the Army.
You were in a remedial training unit?
>
> > It is impossible for you to go over my head.
>
> LOL!
>
> > You are suffering from either a narcissistic or paranoid
> > personality disorder.
>
> As usual Marc, you don't understand how psychology works. Everybody has a
> little something going on in their life that deviates from perfect average
> normalicy. The question is not that you are a little dysfunctional, but how
> dysfunctional you are. For example, people who are truely pathological can't
> form stable relationships or hold a given job. Sort of like you, eh Marc?
Nope. Again you're bearing false witness. And I do understand how
psychology works. For instance, you regularly meet and exceed DSM-IV
standards for those two behavioral disorders.
>
> > �That means that while you may
> > think you're going over everyone's head, you're not.
>
> You've proven yourself otherwise, Marc, even in just this one post.
Prove it!
>
> >>>> Scott has informed us that he has blow so much money on
> >>>> his near-SOTA vinyl playback system that he can't
> >>>> afford a $50 test LP so he can prove its performance
> >>>> to anybody who might be a little skeptical about his
> >>>> exceptional claims.
> >>> I'd like to see proof of that claim.
>
> >> Google is your friend. Or not. Mostly, not.
> > Another meaningless statement.
>
> Again, over your head.
Again, not.
>
> > �But if I had said the
> > same to you, you'd call me a liar until I produced the
> > exact URL. �So...you're a liar. �It simply didn't happen.
> > Again you are bearing false witness against your neighbor.
>
> Wrong again Marc. Just because I know from experience that you will blunder
> on in your errors and never admit them, even when faced with overwhelming
> reliable proof, doesn't mean that I'm a liar. It means that just like many
> of your former employers (their name is Legion, right?) I've got your
> number.
No, not really. And something tells me you have had more employers
than me.
>
> >>> Scott is in the
> >>> film industry, and he's pretty well known. ?I seriously
> >>> doubt he can't afford a $50 test LP.
>
> >> He still lives with his folks, right?
> > I have no idea. �When I visited his house, he seemed to
> > be living with his wife. �Perhaps the "living with his
> > folks" is another example of you bearing false witness.
>
> Just goes to show that you don't get the concept of a question, Marc.
Why did you ask it?
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>> Scott tells us that when he plays LPs on his magical LP
> >>>> player, there are no audible tics, pops, flutter, wow,
> >>>> inner groove distortion, etc. etc. So we've asked him
> >>>> to provide an unedited, unprocessed transcription of
> >>>> just one LP side as evidence of this.
> >>>> (Cut to Mission Impossible Theme playing in the
> >>>> background)
> >>> Since Scott is a vinyl-only man (he didn't have a CD
> >>> player in his system when I visited), how is he supposed
> >>> to produce a needle drop?
> >> You need to update your reading, Marc. He claims to be
> >> expert on the topic of LP/CD comparisons. OTOH, given
> >> how his mind seems to work, maybe Scott still doesn't
> >> have a CD player. He says that perception is everything
> >> but doesn't know that the difference between illusions
> >> and not is important. Maybe he perceives that he has a
> >> CD player.
> > That would be something Scott would need to answer,
>
> But you tried to answer for him, Marc.
He sent me the post because he thought the people on RAO would enjoy
your inept responses. I did.
>
> Then I caught you up short.
Nope, you didn't.
>
> Then you started spinning.
Nope, I didn't.
>
> > wouldn't it. �But we have a number of engineers on staff,
> > and they all pretty much agree that posting files of
> > vinyl records online is a laughable conceit and proves
> > nothing..
>
> Engineers on what staff?
Ah, you're being evasive.
>
> Get them to post here, we'll check them out.
Why would I do that? No one is lining up to prove anything on Usenet.
>
> >> <"Twilight Zone" theme playing in the background,>
>
> >> Marc, nice of you to expose your ignorance again. Even,
> >> so quickly. Keep up the good work!
> > Yes, I'm ignorant of Scott's day to day life. �So are you.
>
> But, I only asked questions about them. I didn't try to answer for him like
> you did, Marc.
I didn't try to answer them.
>
> >>> By the way, I own several dozen LPs with little or no
> >>> surface noise as well. ?And yes, a superior playback
> >>> system has something to do with that.
>
> >> I'd challenge you to produce a CD of a LP side
> >> demonstrating that noise free LP Marc, but I know that
> >> would again be...
>
> >> OVER YOUR HEAD!!!!-
> > No...beneath me. �Perhaps I'll have a real engineer
> > explain it to you.
>
> You do that Marc. Have him post over in RAHE - if he can even master Usenet.
Master Usenet? LOL! Tell you what, contact our magazine and ask to
forward an e-mail to the technical editor. I'll print your question
and his response here.
Boon
TT
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:xf2dnR5dUYz0y6nU...@giganews.com...
> Scott tells us that when he plays LPs on his magical LP
> player, there are no audible tics, pops, flutter, wow,
> inner groove distortion, etc. etc. So we've asked him to
> provide an unedited, unprocessed transcription of just one
> LP side as evidence of this.
>
Maybe he will provide the recording when you do likewise!
We have called for examples of your recording prowess and
none have been forthcoming either!
> (Cut to Mission Impossible Theme playing in the
> background)
>
<<<<<< Cut to Laurel and Hardy theme music>>>>
> LOL!
Noted: Arny cackling insanely in the background.
TT
TT
On Dec 1, 5:19 pm, Boon <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2:20 pm, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
> wrote:
> > Keep up the good work. You're an inspiration to us all.
>
> We were trashing your faith, which consists of going to
> church to
> appease your wife while secretly breaking several
> commandments per
> day.
I think the root problem here is that GOIA actually thinks
he's a
"good" Christian.
.................. and a knowledgeable electronics guru and
a master debater (is that masturbator?) and a "puta fixa
upper man" and a rekording injuneer. Truth is he's just a
lunatic zealot that likes to run off at the mouth -
regularly!
The poor confused psychotic blob probably feels superior to
Mother
Theresa. I think I saw a picture once where she was dancing.
LOL!
Probably superior to few higher up as well ;-)
No wonder the term Krazy Krueger sits so well with everyone
:-))
Cheers TT
Boon
I think Arny is just wishing that someone would send him needle
drops. That's the big thing right now. For example, I have some
copies of the needle drops Michael Fremer made from the Rockport
Sirius III and his Continuum Caliburn. Best sounding digital I've
heard. A lot of people in the industry are swapping these types of
recordings around, and Arny wishes he could be a part of the fun. But
Arny is an audio nobody. No one feels the need to prove anything to
someone like Arny. That's why he languishes on Usenet, hoping to
browbeat someone into giving him a CD-R of some truly awesome needle
drops.
If he was a normal human being, he'd already have copies of needle
drops with little or no surface noise. It says a lot that he has to
"challenge" people on Usenet to provide them.
Boon
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> If he was a normal human being, he'd already have copies of needle
> drops with little or no surface noise. It says a lot that he has to
> "challenge" people on Usenet to provide them.
Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech turntables appeared
in the audiophile segment. Even in his addled mental state, Turdy realized
that laying out for a good 'table would be pointless since he doesn't care
about the musicality of his recordings. All he understands is measurements
and specifications, and, of course, engaging in pointless argumentation
about them. Arguing from a position of ignorance is offensive to Normals,
but for Krazy Krooger, it's a worth a "debating trade" merit badge.
Boon
Don't you remember when Arny bought his used Rega P2? He sent me
emails under a pseudonym asking me for my advice. I steered him
toward the P2 based on his rather limited budget. He then bought an
early Rega P2 with a Mayware arm and tried to claim I steered him
wrong on RAO, forgetting that I told him to buy the P2 based upon the
excellence and upgradeability of the RB250 arm. He really screwed that
up.
Now Arny claims he knows everything about vinyl playback because he
has this rig at his disposal. If anything can summarize how spotty
Arny's audio knowledge is, this is it.
Boon
Jenn
<c0f32d2b-bcaa-4855...@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
Boon <vinyl...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 7:05?pm, George M. Middius <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Boon said:
> >
> > > If he was a normal human being, he'd already have copies of needle
> > > drops with little or no surface noise. ?It says a lot that he has to
> > > "challenge" people on Usenet to provide them.
> >
> > Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech turntables appeared
> > in the audiophile segment. Even in his addled mental state, Turdy realized
> > that laying out for a good 'table would be pointless since he doesn't care
> > about the musicality of his recordings. All he understands is measurements
> > and specifications, and, of course, engaging in pointless argumentation
> > about them. Arguing from a position of ignorance is offensive to Normals,
> > but for Krazy Krooger, it's a worth a "debating trade" merit badge.
>
> Don't you remember when Arny bought his used Rega P2? He sent me
> emails under a pseudonym asking me for my advice. I steered him
> toward the P2 based on his rather limited budget. He then bought an
> early Rega P2 with a Mayware arm and tried to claim I steered him
> wrong on RAO, forgetting that I told him to buy the P2 based upon the
> excellence and upgradeability of the RB250 arm. He really screwed that
> up.
You mean that he lied? Hmmm...
TT
"Jenn" <jennco...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:jennconducts-A445...@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
Not according to Arny. To everyone else and any Deities
that may be listening in, then yes ;-)
Cheers TT
George M. Middius
TT said:
> >> He really screwed that up.
> > You mean that he lied? Hmmm...
> Not according to Arny. To everyone else and any Deities
> that may be listening in, then yes ;-)
Audio 'borgs dream of sinning without penance.
MiNe 109
<a54a43be-1ab0-4db8...@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Boon <vinyl...@aol.com> wrote:
> I think Arny is just wishing that someone would send him needle
> drops. That's the big thing right now. For example, I have some
> copies of the needle drops Michael Fremer made from the Rockport
> Sirius III and his Continuum Caliburn. Best sounding digital I've
> heard. A lot of people in the industry are swapping these types of
> recordings around, and Arny wishes he could be a part of the fun. But
> Arny is an audio nobody. No one feels the need to prove anything to
> someone like Arny. That's why he languishes on Usenet, hoping to
> browbeat someone into giving him a CD-R of some truly awesome needle
> drops.
>
> If he was a normal human being, he'd already have copies of needle
> drops with little or no surface noise. It says a lot that he has to
> "challenge" people on Usenet to provide them.
Maybe he hasn't noticed the Fremer needledrop on his Bad Brains cd.
Stephen
TT
"George M. Middius" <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote in
message news:kid9j4hc5aadh2qn4...@4ax.com...
style ;-)
Cheers TT
George M. Middius
TT said:
> > Audio 'borgs dream of sinning without penance.
> I dunno, some self flagellation would probably be Arny's
> style ;-)
If it were that easy, Turdy would have learned to be content with whipping
himself long ago. No, the Beast needs the satisfaction of knowing he prodded
a Normal into punishing him.
Clyde Slick
Hmm, seems like you are considering Susan to be a normal.
After she is the one who drags him to church every Sunday to be
scolded by OPasto Matt.
Boon
Susan is a Christian. Christians are deluded. Delusional people are
not normal. Therefore...
Boon
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> > > If it were that easy, Turdy would have learned to be content with whipping
> > > himself long ago. No, the Beast needs the satisfaction of knowing he prodded
> > > a Normal into punishing him.
> >
> > Hmm, seems like you are considering Susan to be a normal.
> > After she is the one who drags him to church every Sunday to be
> > scolded by OPasto Matt.
>
> Susan is a Christian. Christians are deluded. Delusional people are
> not normal. Therefore...
Sacky is barking up the wrong Scottie. When I referred to Normals, how could
that include poor Susan? She's married to Arnii Krooshit, for god's sake.
It's a virtual certainty she has diminished capacity of some sort.
TT
disposition of a saint ;-) Or, an alternate theory, perhaps
there really is a God and she is already in her own personal
Hell ;-) Food for thought? At the very least being
sentenced to life with Arny could not possibly be a pleasant
experience.
Cheers TT
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
wrote:
Do you remember the Marine colonel's wife in American Beauty?
George M. Middius
Shhhh! said:
Hey, I like that movie! Don't Krooger it up, please.
Arny Krueger
news:c0f32d2b-bcaa-4855...@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com
>> Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech
>> turntables appeared in the audiophile segment.
That would be a false claim. My turntable, a TD125 with SME arm and Shure
V15 III cartridge was based on technology that is comparble to the accepted
SOTA to this day.
> Don't you remember when Arny bought his used Rega P2? He
> sent me emails under a pseudonym asking me for my advice.
No such thing ever happened. Marc is either lying or delusional.
> I steered him toward the P2 based on his rather limited
> budget. He then bought an early Rega P2 with a Mayware
> arm and tried to claim I steered him wrong on RAO,
> forgetting that I told him to buy the P2 based upon the
> excellence and upgradeability of the RB250 arm. He really
> screwed that up.
No such thing ever happened. Marc is either lying or delusional.
Arny Krueger
> You mean that he lied? Hmmm...
Jenn is very willing to believe every lie that the Middiot and his posse
tell her.
Arny Krueger
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
> In article
> <-NOdnX-VCqS7_qnU...@giganews.com>, "Arny
> Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" <jennconduct...@mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>>
>>> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
>>
>> defending your Christian faith when Boonie, George and
>> the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
>
> As I said, I generally don't discuss religious issues on
> the 'net.
That's right Jenn - your beliefs are probably so weak and self-contradictory
that you would embarass yourself. Besides, you can't stand the kind of
derision that you'd probably get from your friends in the Middiot Posse. You
sold out your Christiantity for your chosen lifestyle twice, and I'm sure
you'll happily do it again.
Clyde Slick
> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
you are envious that she does not believe yours.
Well done!
next time, think of some better lies.
Arny Krueger
news:2624eacb-29df-4a60...@o2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com
> On 2 Dec, 08:04, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
>> news:jennconducts-A445...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>>> You mean that he lied? Hmmm...
>> Jenn is very willing to believe every lie that the
>> Middiot and his posse tell her.
> you are envious that she does not believe yours.
How can I be envious if Jenn does not believe in that which does not exist?
Of course she believes in the Middiot, and that does not exist as a real
person - just a contrived persona.
Clyde Slick
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > In article
> > <-NOdnX-VCqS7_qnUnZ2dnUVZ_r_in...@giganews.com>, "Arny
> > Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> >>> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
>
> >> Jenn, I think you did the best job you could of
> >> defending your Christian faith when Boonie, George and
> >> the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
>
> > As I said, I generally don't discuss religious issues on
> > the 'net.
>
> That's right Jenn - your beliefs are probably so weak and self-contradictory
> that you would embarass yourself. Besides, you can't stand the kind of
> derision that you'd probably get from your friends in the Middiot Posse. You
> sold out your Christiantity for your chosen lifestyle twice, and I'm sure
> you'll happily do it again.
Arny is on solid theological ground.
Nowhere in the Good Book does it say that you
can't rub excrement in someone's eyes.
Boon
> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
Yeah, that's what you claimed at the time when you realized your
little trick backfired on you. The Google archives are filled with
your miscalculations, lies and fuck-ups.
Boon
Boon
> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
These comments of yours reek of desperation. Do you honestly believe
that anyone here believes these feeble objections? Nope, Arnold B.
Krueger will go down in history as a man who spent most of his life on
the Internet, honing his debate skills (i.e. lying and bearing false
witness).
Boon
Boon
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > In article
> > <-NOdnX-VCqS7_qnUnZ2dnUVZ_r_in...@giganews.com>, "Arny
> > Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> >>> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
>
> >> Jenn, I think you did the best job you could of
> >> defending your Christian faith when Boonie, George and
> >> the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
>
> > As I said, I generally don't discuss religious issues on
> > the 'net.
>
> That's right Jenn - your beliefs are probably so weak and self-contradictory
> that you would embarass yourself. Besides, you can't stand the kind of
> derision that you'd probably get from your friends in the Middiot Posse. You
> you'll happily do it again.
Yes, Arny...the bible says that homosexuals must be put to death.
Just how are you going to kill George and Jenn in order to stay true
to your chosen faith?
Boon
Boon
> "Clyde Slick" <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Yes, we're all just figments of your imagination until we're stupid
enough to post our home addresses and phone numbers on Usenet.
Boon
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
What about Marc's post is false?
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> "Jenn" <jennconduct...@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
> > In article
> > <-NOdnX-VCqS7_qnU...@giganews.com>, "Arny
> > Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" <jennconduct...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
> >>
> >>> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
> >>
> >> Jenn, I think you did the best job you could of
> >> defending your Christian faith when Boonie, George and
> >> the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
> >
> > As I said, I generally don't discuss religious issues on
> > the 'net.
>
> That's right Jenn - your beliefs are probably so weak and self-contradictory
> that you would embarass yourself.
No, I simply consider matters of faith to be more serious and more
personal than is appropriate to discuss much here. You can question my
beliefs all you wish. It speaks much more about you than it does about
me.
> Besides, you can't stand the kind of
> derision that you'd probably get from your friends in the Middiot Posse.
Anyone who reads the group is well aware of the positions of George and
Marc, and I'm sure that they are aware of mine. These are personal
issues and each person is entitled to their beliefs.
> You
> sold out your Christiantity for your chosen lifestyle twice,
What? It's the gardening, isn't it? I don't know what you have against
it.
> and I'm sure
> you'll happily do it again.
You mean will I fall in love with a woman again? Yes, I fall for Marcy
every day. God willing, we'll be together forever. The first 12 years
have been wonderful.
Again, about the things you didn't address:
You: She appears to be a Biblical Christian in
accordance with some version of the Bible with a number of pages
removed.
:-(
Me: I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net, but I have
to
say that I have no idea of what you are writing, and it's obvious that
you don't either. I'm gay. I naturally have a harmless attraction to
people of the same gender. Please point out where this is forbidden in
the Bible. Have your Strong's handy?
Perhaps we should discuss how YOUR actions are not in accordance with
Biblical principles. Do you really want to go there?
You: <chirp, chirp>
Clyde Slick
> "Clyde Slick" <Mr.clydesl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2624eacb-29df-4a60...@o2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com
>
> > On 2 Dec, 08:04, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> >> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:jennconducts-A445...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
> >>> You mean that he lied? Hmmm...
> >> Jenn is very willing to believe every lie that the
> >> Middiot and his posse tell her.
> > you are envious that she does not believe yours.
>
> How can I be envious if Jenn does not believe in that which does not exist?
>
then you aren't even envious of her sanity.
You should be, given your lack of sanity.
> Of course she believes in the Middiot, and that does not exist as a real
> person - just a contrived persona.
And you spend a lot of time insanely chasing its tail.
George M. Middius
Jenn said:
> > Besides, you can't stand the kind of
> > derision that you'd probably get from your friends in [my Supreme Master's] Posse.
>
> Anyone who reads the group is well aware of the positions of George and
> Marc, and I'm sure that they are aware of mine. These are personal
> issues and each person is entitled to their beliefs.
The Posse Steering Committee adopted a new by-law at the last meeting:
No christians allowed, either real or self-professed. Sorry, Mistress.
You're out.
Boon
> In article <sbydncgUzvzxr6jUnZ2dnUVZ_o7in...@giganews.com>,
> �"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> > "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >news:jennconducts-A445...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > > You mean that he lied? �Hmmm...
>
> > Jenn is very willing to believe every lie that the Middiot and his posse
> > tell her.
>
> What about Marc's post is false?
Arny has had issues with this before. If he doesn't agree with it,
it's a lie. If he can't remember it, it's a lie. If there is no URL
attached to it, it's a lie.
Any psychologist will tell you that this is the reason why Arny lies
so frequently...he simply doesn't know what a lie is.
Boon
Clyde Slick
Although Arny is certainly insane, I don't think he
is criminally insane, at least I hope not.
I don't want him to get off that easy.
I want him to do his bear hunting in the prison yard.
Boon
He's not criminally insane. But it's clear why he has to stay at home
while his wife goes out to make a living. Arny simply cannot function
in the outside world. That's why he lives his life on the Internet.
Boon
Arny Krueger
> Yes, we're all just figments of your imagination until
> we're stupid enough to post our home addresses and phone
> numbers on Usenet.
As usual Marc, you are lying. You know very well that I did not post my
phone numbers on Usenet. Someone else was kind enough to do it for me. It
really hasn't caused me any problems to speak of.
In your case, I can see why you are very concerned that someone would find
out your home phone. Someone might want to get back at you for stalking
them, or the many inflammatory things you post.
Arny Krueger
LOL!
Marc's post in total is the following, some of which he did not personally
write, but which he reposted without contradicting, showing that he agrees
with it all.
Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech turntables appeared
in the audiophile segment.
A lie.
> Even in his addled mental state,
A lie.
> Turdy
A lie.
> realized
> that laying out for a good 'table would be pointless since he doesn't care
> about the musicality of his recordings.
A lie.
> All he understands is measurements
A lie.
> and specifications,
A lie.
and, of course, engaging in pointless argumentation about them.
A lie.
> Arguing from a position of ignorance is offensive to Normals,
A lie.
> but for Krazy Krooger,
A lie.
> it's a worth a "debating trade" merit badge.
A lie.
> He sent me mails under a pseudonym asking me for my advice.
A lie.
> He then bought an early Rega P2 with a Mayware arm and tried to claim I
> steered him
wrong on RAO,
A lie.
Now Arny claims he knows everything about vinyl playback
A lie.
> because he as this rig at his disposal.
A lie.
> If anything can summarize how spotty Arny's audio knowledge is, this is
> it.
A lie.
Arny Krueger
> On Dec 2, 5:03?am, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
> wrote:
>> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:c0f32d2b-bcaa-4855...@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com
>>
>>>> Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech
>>>> turntables appeared in the audiophile segment.
>>
>> That would be a false claim. My turntable, a TD125 with
>> SME arm and Shure V15 III cartridge was based on
>> technology that is comparble to the accepted SOTA to
>> this day.
>>
>>> Don't you remember when Arny bought his used Rega P2?
>>> advice.
>>
>> No such thing ever happened. Marc is either lying or
>> delusional.
>>
>>> I steered him toward the P2 based on his rather limited
>>> budget. He then bought an early Rega P2 with a Mayware
>>> arm and tried to claim I steered him wrong on RAO,
>>> forgetting that I told him to buy the P2 based upon the
>>> excellence and upgradeability of the RB250 arm. He
>>> really screwed that up.
>>
>> No such thing ever happened. Marc is either lying or
>> delusional.
>
> Yeah, that's what you claimed at the time when you
> realized your little trick backfired on you. The Google
> archives are filled with your miscalculations, lies and
> fuck-ups.
Prove it.
George M. Middius
FecesBorg stomps his dorky, clubby feet.
> > Yes, we're all just figments of your imagination until
> > we're stupid enough to post our home addresses and phone
> > numbers on Usenet.
>
> As usual Marc, you are lying[sic]. You know very well that I did not post my
> phone numbers on Usenet. Someone else was kind enough to do it for me.
You did post in your incredibly dorky web site, though. It's right here:
<http://www.pcavtech.com/pcta/index.htm>
Hey, look what else is on your joke of a site:
<http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/techtalk/index.htm>
Pray much today, Arnii? ;-)
> In your case, I can see why you are very concerned that someone would find
> out your home phone. Someone might want to get back at you for stalking
> them, or the many inflammatory things you post.
Or maybe send him a gift certificate from Guns R Us in Goose Puke, MI.
ScottW
> In article <CfadnQr4rf8PrqjUnZ2dnUVZ_tbin...@giganews.com>,
> "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
> > > In article
> > > <-NOdnX-VCqS7_qnUnZ2dnUVZ_r_in...@giganews.com>, "Arny
> > > Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> > >> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > >>> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
>
> > >> Jenn, I think you did the best job you could of
> > >> defending your Christian faith when Boonie, George and
> > >> the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
>
> > > As I said, I generally don't discuss religious issues on
> > > the 'net.
>
> > That's right Jenn - your beliefs are probably so weak and self-contradictory
> > that you would embarass yourself.
>
> No, I simply consider matters of faith to be more serious and more
> personal than is appropriate to discuss much here. You can question my
> beliefs all you wish. It speaks much more about you than it does about
> me.
>
> > Besides, you can't stand the kind of
> > derision that you'd probably get from your friends in the Middiot Posse.
>
> Anyone who reads the group is well aware of the positions of George and
> Marc, and I'm sure that they are aware of mine. These are personal
> issues and each person is entitled to their beliefs.
Goldberg would disagree.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/la-oe-goldberg2-2008dec02,1,5061334.column
Maybe you can see the corollary or maybe not.
ScottW
Arny Krueger
> These are personal issues and each person is
> entitled to their beliefs.
So you think that people are entitled to act on their belief that gay people
should be executed, immediately?
George M. Middius
The Krooborg peers into the abyss.
> > These are personal issues and each person is
> > entitled to their beliefs.
>
> So you think that people are entitled to act on their belief that gay people
> should be executed, immediately?
Arnii, you're carrying your enemy hunt too far. Go forth and seek out a
deep body of water.
Jenn
<60adfe75-6ff7-4930...@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
ScottW <Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
How would he disagree that these are personal issues and each person is
entitled to his or her beliefs?
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
If these are "lies", then your posts are full of them.
Clyde Slick
or Busses R Us
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
No, I said that each person is entitled to his/her BELIEFS, not actions.
Do you see the difference?
Boon
> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ec24777a-69df-4f27...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com
>
> > Yes, we're all just figments of your imagination until
> > we're stupid enough to post our home addresses and phone
> > numbers on Usenet.
>
> As usual Marc, you are lying. You know very well that I did not post my
> phone numbers on Usenet. Someone else was kind enough to do it for me. �It
> really hasn't caused me any problems to speak of.
Liar. You've posted your website URLs here a number of times. They
included your home phone number on the front page.
>
> In your case, I can see why you are very concerned that someone would find
> out your home phone. �Someone might want to get back at you for stalking
> them, or the many inflammatory things you post.
You? Naw, you can call me. I'd love to debate you in real time.
Boon
Boon
> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:jennconducts-98FB...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > In article
> > <sbydncgUzvzxr6jUnZ2dnUVZ_o7in...@giganews.com>, "Arny
> > Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:jennconducts-A445...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> >>> You mean that he lied? �Hmmm...
>
> >> Jenn is very willing to believe every lie that the
> >> Middiot and his posse tell her.
>
> > What about Marc's post is false?
>
> LOL!
>
> Marc's post in total is the following, some of which he did not personally
> write, but which he reposted without contradicting, showing that he agrees
> with it all.
>
> Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech turntables appeared
> in the audiophile segment.
>
> A lie.
I didn't write that, idiot.
>
> > Even in his addled mental state,
>
> A lie.
I didn't write that, idiot.
>
> > Turdy
>
> A lie.
I didn't write that, idiot.
>
> > realized
> > that laying out for a good 'table would be pointless since he doesn't care
> > about the musicality of his recordings.
>
> A lie.
I didn't write that, idiot.
>
> > All he understands is measurements
>
> A lie.
>
> > and specifications,
>
> A lie.
>
> �and, of course, engaging in pointless argumentation about them.
>
> A lie.
>
> > �Arguing from a position of ignorance is offensive to Normals,
>
> A lie.
>
> > but for Krazy Krooger,
>
> A lie.
>
> > it's a worth a "debating trade" merit badge.
>
> A lie.
I didn't write any of that, you imbecile.
>
> > � He sent me mails under a pseudonym asking me for my advice.
>
> A lie.
Finally, something I did say. You admitted to it...no, wait, you
BRAGGED about it here. You thought you were tricking me into giving
you flawed advice. But then it backfired on you when you bought the
wrong turntable. It's all in the archives.
>
> > He then bought an early Rega P2 with a Mayware arm and tried to claim I
> > steered him
>
> wrong on RAO,
>
> A lie.
In the Google archives.
>
> Now Arny claims he knows everything about vinyl playback
>
> A lie.
>
> > �because he as this rig at his disposal.
>
> A lie.
Actually, no and no. You've tried to comment on things such as
surface noise and the inferiority of the format...with inferior
hardware.
>
> > �If anything can summarize how spotty Arny's audio knowledge is, this is
> > it.
>
> A lie.
As usual, you have to support your claims as evidence. It's very
typical behavior for someone with your personality disorders to
dismiss everything as a lie without offering such evidence while
demanding mountains of evidence from others. And if someone does
provide evidence, you either call it a lie or slink away. This
fulfills the DSM-IV requirements for at least two personality
disorders.
At this point, any rebuttal on your part will undoubtedly support a
diagnosis. You should probably learn to shut the fuck up before the
guys in the white coats stop by.
Boon
Boon
You big fucking baby. Just admit it.
Boon
Arny Krueger
> On Dec 2, 11:27?am, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
> wrote:
>> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ec24777a-69df-4f27...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com
>>
>>> Yes, we're all just figments of your imagination until
>>> we're stupid enough to post our home addresses and phone
>>> numbers on Usenet.
>>
>> As usual Marc, you are lying. You know very well that I
>> did not post my phone numbers on Usenet. Someone else
>> caused me any problems to speak of.
>
> Liar. You've posted your website URLs here a number of
> times. They included your home phone number on the front
> page.
The joke here Marc is that you don't know the difference between the World
Wide Web, and Usenet.
Usenet was founded in 1979, while the World Wide Web was founded in 1993.
I've been posting on Usenet since the middle 1980s.
Furthermore Marc, you posted incorrect information, my home phone number is
*not* on the front page of my web site. Actually, my home phone is not
anywhere on my web site.
I guess Marc, that shows that you don't know what the home page of a web
site is. :-(
Figures.
>> In your case, I can see why you are very concerned that
>> someone would find out your home phone. ?Someone might
>> want to get back at you for stalking them, or the many
>> inflammatory things you post.
> You? Naw, you can call me. I'd love to debate you in real time.
Marc, I'd rather expose your stupidity and lies, such as those above, with
an audience.
Arny Krueger
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
Jenn, that is a Non sequitor. Typical of the fact that you can't think
clearly.
Arny Krueger
> On Dec 2, 11:33?am, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
>>> archives are filled with your miscalculations, lies and
>>> fuck-ups.
>>
>> Prove it.
>
> You big fucking baby. Just admit it.
Thanks Marc for admitting that your claims are baseless.
Boon
> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
Not people...Christians. It's in the Bible, it must be true. Kill
all gays, runaway slaves and women who speak openly in the church.
Susan runs the youth program at your church...start with her. Your
imaginary God has given you an order.
Boon
Arny Krueger
news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
What good are beliefs if you are too much of a coward to act on them, like
you apparently are?
George M. Middius
Jenn said:
> > A lie.
> If these are "lies", then your posts are full of them.
I believe Arnii is composed of 97% pure feces. (Probably human feces,
but not necessarily.)
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> > > Turdy
> >
> > A lie.
>
> I didn't write that, idiot.
Could you please ask Turdy why, if it's a "lie", he consistently answers to
that name? ;-)
Arny Krueger
> On Dec 2, 11:32?am, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>
> wrote:
>> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:jennconducts-98FB...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>>
>>> In article
>>> <sbydncgUzvzxr6jUnZ2dnUVZ_o7in...@giganews.com>, "Arny
>>> Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:jennconducts-A445...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>>> Jenn is very willing to believe every lie that the
>>>> Middiot and his posse tell her.
>>
>>> What about Marc's post is false?
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> Marc's post in total is the following, some of which he
>> did not personally write, but which he reposted without
>> contradicting, showing that he agrees with it all.
>> Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech
>> turntables appeared in the audiophile segment.
>>
>> A lie.
>
> I didn't write that, idiot.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> Even in his addled mental state,
>>
>> A lie.
>
> I didn't write that, idiot.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> Turdy
>>
>> A lie.
>
> I didn't write that, idiot.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> realized
>>> that laying out for a good 'table would be pointless
>>> since he doesn't care about the musicality of his
>>> recordings.
>>
>> A lie.
>
> I didn't write that, idiot.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> All he understands is measurements
>>
>> A lie.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> and specifications,
>>
>> A lie.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>> ?and, of course, engaging in pointless argumentation
>> about them.
>>
>> A lie.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> ?Arguing from a position of ignorance is offensive to
>>> Normals,
>>
>> A lie.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> but for Krazy Krooger,
>>
>> A lie.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> it's a worth a "debating trade" merit badge.
>>
>> A lie.
> I didn't write any of that, you imbecile.
But you agreed with it and reposted it.
>>> ? He sent me mails under a pseudonym asking me for my
>>> advice.
>>
>> A lie.
> Finally, something I did say. You admitted to it...no,
> wait, you BRAGGED about it here.
Marc, prove that such a thing ever happened. Otherwise, its obvious that you
are lying.
> You thought you were
> tricking me into giving you flawed advice. But then it
> backfired on you when you bought the wrong turntable.
> It's all in the archives.
Marc, prove that such a thing ever happened. Otherwise, its obvious that you
are lying.
>>> He then bought an early Rega P2 with a Mayware arm and
>>> tried to claim I steered him
>>
>> wrong on RAO,
>
>> A lie.
>
> In the Google archives.
Marc, prove that such a thing ever happened. Otherwise, its obvious that you
are lying.
>> Now Arny claims he knows everything about vinyl playback
>>
>> A lie.
Marc does not deny that he lied when he wrote this.
>>> ?because he as this rig at his disposal.
>>
>> A lie.
> Actually, no and no.
Oh, but now Marc wants to play catch up.
> You've tried to comment on things
> such as surface noise and the inferiority of the
> format...with inferior hardware.
Not nearly the same as saying that I know everything about vinyl playback.
Obviously Marc, you don't know how to read and think clearly.
>>> ?If anything can summarize how spotty Arny's audio
>>> knowledge is, this is it.
>>
>> A lie.
> As usual, you have to support your claims as evidence.
> It's very typical behavior for someone with your
> personality disorders to dismiss everything as a lie
> without offering such evidence while demanding mountains
> of evidence from others. And if someone does provide
> evidence, you either call it a lie or slink away. This
> fulfills the DSM-IV requirements for at least two
> personality disorders.
In the opinon of what licensed mental health professional?
Marc, crazy people who go around accusing normal people of being crazy are
an everyday happening.
> At this point, any rebuttal on your part will undoubtedly
> support a diagnosis. You should probably learn to shut
> the fuck up before the guys in the white coats stop by.
Marc, anybody who looks at the above will conclude that either you have a
very low IQ, or are on something, or just don't give a rip.
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> At this point, any rebuttal on your part will undoubtedly support a
> diagnosis. You should probably learn to shut the fuck up before the
> guys in the white coats stop by.
I can just about hear Arnii gasping in pain and pleasure as you grind him
into the dirt. "More! More pain, more blood! Hit me harder!
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE! MORE! HARDER!"
TT
"George M. Middius" <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:l5abj4pt0e108i6m2...@4ax.com...
Cheers TT
Arny Krueger
Which contrasts with the Middiot, who is some imaginary character that some
poor demented person thought up.
George M. Middius
Jenn said:
> How would he disagree that these are personal issues and each person is
> entitled to his or her beliefs?
Perhaps Scottie was referring to the widely-held opinion that fake
religionists deserve all the ridicule they receive.
Arny Krueger
So that's what the voices in your head tell you, eh?
BTW Middiot thanks for talking J into giving me that free trip to
Manhattan. I enjoyed it very much, and the fact that you talked him into it
made it even sweeter.
MiNe 109
<60adfe75-6ff7-4930...@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
ScottW <Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I smell cheeto dust.
Stephen
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
>
> > Yes, we're all just figments of your imagination until
> > we're stupid enough to post our home addresses and phone
> > numbers on Usenet.
>
> As usual Marc, you are lying. You know very well that I did not post my
> really hasn't caused me any problems to speak of.
Well, there *was* that whiny-voiced tape of you... LOL!
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> Any psychologist will tell you that this is the reason why Arny lies
> so frequently...he simply doesn't know what a lie is.
More likely, GOIA no longer knows what the truth is. Liars tend to
wrap themselves in their lies until they believe them.
I have no doubt, for example, that O.J. Simpson believes that someone
else killed his wife.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:jennconducts-98FB...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > In article
> > Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:jennconducts-A445...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
>
> >> Jenn is very willing to believe every lie that the
> >> Middiot and his posse tell her.
>
> > What about Marc's post is false?
>
> LOL!
>
> Marc's post in total is the following, some of which he did not personally
> write, but which he reposted without contradicting, showing that he agrees
> with it all.
>
> Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech turntables appeared
> in the audiophile segment.
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
> > realized
> > that laying out for a good 'table would be pointless since he doesn't care
> > about the musicality of his recordings.
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
> and, of course, engaging in pointless argumentation about them.
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
> > steered him
>
> wrong on RAO,
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
>
> A lie.
>
> > it.
>
> A lie.
I'd say Boon nailed it, GOIA. It appears that your weak grasp of
reality is causing you issues again.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "Boon" <vinylan...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 2, 5:03?am, "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com>> >>news:c0f32d2b-bcaa-4855...@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com
>
> >>>> Arnii gave up on vinyl long ago, well before high-tech
> >>>> turntables appeared in the audiophile segment.
>
> >> SME arm and Shure V15 III cartridge was based on
> >> technology that is comparble to the accepted SOTA to
> >> this day.
>
> >>> Don't you remember when Arny bought his used Rega P2?
> >>> advice.
>
> >> No such thing ever happened. Marc is either lying or
> >> delusional.
>
> >>> I steered him toward the P2 based on his rather limited
> >>> arm and tried to claim I steered him wrong on RAO,
> >>> excellence and upgradeability of the RB250 arm. He
> >>> really screwed that up.
>
> >> No such thing ever happened. Marc is either lying or
> >> delusional.
>
> > Yeah, that's what you claimed at the time when you
> > archives are filled with your miscalculations, lies and
> > fuck-ups.
>
> Prove it.
The statement from time immemorial of the guilty.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > In article
> > Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >>news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> >>> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
>
> >> Jenn, I think you did the best job you could of
> >> defending your Christian faith when Boonie, George and
> >> the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
>
> > As I said, I generally don't discuss religious issues on
> > the 'net.
>
> That's right Jenn - your beliefs are probably so weak and self-contradictory
> derision that you'd probably get from your friends in the Middiot Posse. You
> sold out your Christiantity for your chosen lifestyle twice, and I'm sure
> you'll happily do it again.
Say, GOIA, will you please make me "smart"?
Where in the new testament is there *anything* regarding gays?
Oh, and please explain what the "gay lifestyle" is. I don't understand
that description. In fact, it sounds as retarded as something 2pid
would say. Which (of course) qualifies as proof that you are a 2pid
sockpuppet.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> On Dec 2, 8:33 am, Jenn <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
> > >news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
> > > > In article
> > > > <-NOdnX-VCqS7_qnUnZ2dnUVZ_r_in...@giganews.com>, "Arny
> > > > Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> "Jenn" <jennconductsREMOVET...@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > >>news:jennconductsREMOVETHIS...@news.la.sbcglobal.net
>
> > > >>> I generally don't discuss religious issues on the 'net,
>
> > > >> Jenn, I think you did the best job you could of
> > > >> defending your Christian faith when Boonie, George and
> > > >> the rest were trashing it a few weeks back.
>
> > > > As I said, I generally don't discuss religious issues on
> > > > the 'net.
>
> > > That's right Jenn - your beliefs are probably so weak and self-contradictory
> > > that you would embarass yourself.
>
> > personal than is appropriate to discuss much here. You can question my
> > beliefs all you wish. It speaks much more about you than it does about
> > me.
>
> > > derision that you'd probably get from your friends in the Middiot Posse.
>
> > Marc, and I'm sure that they are aware of mine. These are personal
> > issues and each person is entitled to their beliefs.
>
>
> Maybe you can see the corollary or maybe not.
I don't see Jenn trying to make her religious beliefs the law of the
land, 2pid.
Or did you have some other 'deep' 'thought'? LoL.
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "Jenn" <jenncondu...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
>
> > These are personal issues and each person is
> > entitled to their beliefs.
>
> should be executed, immediately?
Hm. "Thou Shalt Not Kill".
Hm. "Gays should be put to death".
Which way do you lean, GOIA? Which of these contradictory statements
is the "right" one? LOL!
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
> "George M. Middius" <cmndr_geo...@comcast.net> wrote in
> messagenews:ddcbj4tsqtnggkmjj...@4ax.com
How very Christian of you, GOIA. I'm sure that your Lord is Proud of
you. He's all about boastfulness it seems. LOL!
Jenn
"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> Jenn, that is a Non sequitor. Typical of the fact that you can't think
> clearly.
Oh, OK.