Arnii Krooger, Liar for the Ages, Rides Again!
George M. Middius
In two posts tonight, he has accused me of some sort of
fraudulent activity. Here's what the Vile One said:
>Of course, he's been caught
>switching users on the same POP web address.
Whatever you meant by that, NastyBorg, it's not true. And
I'm ready to put my money where my mouth is. I hereby bet
$10,000 that you cannot prove that accusation. And to make
it easy on you, I'll give you two-to-one odds. You only have
to put up $5,000. As soon as your prove your ridiculous
accusation, you get back your five grand plus my ten grand.
Hell of a profit for what, an hour's work?
Are you up to it, Arnii? Let's hear nominations for who will
hold the stakes.
Come and get it, Arnii. ;-) If you're "man" enough. ;-)
George M. Middius
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What is the Krooborg's agenda on RAO?
"IMO, these guys started out way worse than me, and just
went downhill given the chance. For one thing, they don't
know the applicable laws of nature and how to apply them."
There you have it.
Mikeylikst
>What is the Krooborg's agenda on RAO?
>
>"IMO, these guys started out way worse than me, and just
> went downhill given the chance. For one thing, they don't
> know the applicable laws of nature and how to apply them."
>There you have it.
And your problem with this is, what exactly?
>In two posts tonight, he has accused me of some sort of
>fraudulent activity. Here's what the Vile One said:
>>Of course, he's been caught
>>switching users on the same POP web address.
Gasp! What utter cruelty. The shame you must feel. It's almost as bad as
the complete fabrications you make up about anybody and everybody.
Mike McKelvy
"You can't have everything, where would you put it?"
Steven Wright
http://members.aol.com/RLSpeakers/rlsindex.html
Arny Krüger
George M. Middius wrote in message
<36c75bd9....@news.erols.com>...
>Arnii has dragged out a brand-new lie. (Fanfare, please.)
>
>fraudulent activity. Here's what the Vile One said:
>
>>Of course, he's been caught
>>switching users on the same POP web address.
>
That could be. I never said that I caught you, I said you
were caught (by someone else).
>And
>I'm ready to put my money where my mouth is. I hereby bet
>$10,000 that you cannot prove that accusation.
Given that "catching" you this way is a matter of
probabilities, and some reasonably long shots at that, this
could be just an attempt on your part to play the odds. It's
also true that I'm not the guy to catch you - the level of
internet skullduggery required to catch you is beyond my
current powers.
>And to make
>it easy on you, I'll give you two-to-one odds. You only
have
>to put up $5,000.
You also know that I'm likely to make a bet with such odds,
having some rather severe financial situations in my life,
just lately.
>As soon as your prove your ridiculous
>accusation, you get back your five grand plus my ten grand.
>Hell of a profit for what, an hour's work?
I only bet on sure things, Goerge, and one of them is that
you will continue to make false claims about people and
ideas you disagree with, and do everything you can to make
this NG a mockery of what it could be.
George M. Middius
The Vile One's accusation:
>>>Of course, he's been caught
>>>switching users on the same POP web address.
My denial:
>>Whatever you meant by that, NastyBorg, it's not true.
The Slink:
>That could be. I never said that I caught you, I said you
>were caught (by someone else).
One demerit for lying, Arnii.
More slinking:
>Given that "catching" you this way is a matter of
>probabilities, and some reasonably long shots at that, this
>could be just an attempt on your part to play the odds. It's
>also true that I'm not the guy to catch you - the level of
>internet skullduggery required to catch you is beyond my
>current powers.
Another demerit for compounding your lies. Score: 2
>You also know that I'm likely to make a bet with such odds,
>having some rather severe financial situations in my life,
>just lately.
Another demerit for talking out of both sides of your
mouth simultaneously. Score: 3
>I only bet on sure things, Goerge, and one of them is that
>you will continue to make false claims about people and
>ideas you disagree with, and do everything you can to make
>this NG a mockery of what it could be.
Crowning your massive display of unbridled lying,
uninhibited hypocrisy, brazen skulduggery, and
unparalleled fatuosity, you slink back into the sewer.
Five demerits for being the biggest asshole on all of
Usenet. (Thanks, Doug!) Score: 8 ineradicable demerits
for your odious, nauseating, putrid behavior. You're a
"winner," Arnii. ;-)
George M. Middius
Remove "jiffy" to reply
What is the Krooborg's agenda on RAO?
KevinLng
wrote the letter here about something called the Schizmogenic Sociopath. A lot
of people decided I was right that there are a lot of people here who are like
that but everyone was arguing about who really is the Sociopath. Well now I
think it is safe to say it is probably Mr Arnold Kruger and this is sad since
his son just died of something and I wish it was not true.
Remember that the book said that one of the things about that kind of sick
person is that they do not feel anything when they are telling a big lie and
they get caught? Here is Mr Kruger who just told a nasty dirty lie that was
supposed to make Mr Middius look like a bad person and when it turns out that
everyone can see it is a lie Mr Kruger does not even care. I do not know how
someone can do such a thing and not care and still think they are a good
person. I still feel burned from when my boarding school roomate lied to me
and walked off with my stereo even though it was only a technics system. I
still do not know how a person can lie and not care if people know they are a
liar. Isnt this not part of the social compact or something like that? Mr
Kruger tell me why you do that so maybe I can forgive my old roomate even
though it was a blessing in disguise because the technics sounded tinny and
nasty compared to what I just bought.
Kevin Laing
Arny Krüger
KevinLng wrote in message
<19981015170406...@ng74.aol.com>...
>Here is Mr Kruger who just told a nasty dirty lie that was
>supposed to make Mr Middius look like a bad person and
when it turns out that
>everyone can see it is a lie Mr Kruger does not even care.
How do you know it was a lie?
KevinLng
Please Mr Kruger I do not want you to try to make me crazy with words that go
in circles and circles. There are too many word circles here all the time
anyhow I think. Maybe I just think that just because I am a square :-)
You said it was a lie even though you did not say so right direct back to Mr
middius.
Thank you so much for anwering me so soon even though you did not really answer
me all the way yet. I am so so so so sorry to hear about your son. What a
terrible thing. I would have liked him even though I am younger than your son
used to be before he died and I am sure that if I died my father would go
crazy. I am fourteen and I will be fifteen in December. My father is always
kind to me but he is a kind person so that is what you expect. I tell him about
all the things on Rec Audio Opinion here and I told him about your son. He
hugged me a lot then. My father never lies. Well maybe sometimes a little but
never in a way to hurt any body. At least that is how he explains it to me if I
ask him why he would ever lie like to a policeman about how fast he was going
or something. People say I am silly because I try so hard to tell the truth and
I get hurt from trusting people like my roommate sometimes. If I told a lie and
got caught right in front of everybody it would be like I got caught naked in
the middle of Main street. That is why I am confused by what you do. Why did
you make up a lie about Mr Middius? Is there a good reason for it? Then maybe
that is why you do not feel ashamed of yourself for getting caught in a lie.
That is something I can understand even though I would not do that and do not
like that idea and still think it is bad to lie if it hurts some body..
Kevin Laing
RLSpeakers
>Five demerits for being the biggest asshole on all of
>Usenet.
Does this mean you are abdicating?
Real Life Sound
http://members.aol.com/RLSpeakers/rlsindex.html
Ron
<ar...@flash.net> wrote:
>
>George M. Middius wrote in message
><36c75bd9....@news.erols.com>...
>>Arnii has dragged out a brand-new lie. (Fanfare, please.)
>>[cut]
>
>I only bet on sure things, Goerge, and one of them is that
>you will continue to make false claims about people and
>ideas you disagree with, and do everything you can to make
>this NG a mockery of what it could be.
Reminds me of the time Poor George 'acused' me of being a
dealer. I commented that, no, I was not. George came back
with ... you guessed it: "Liar!"...
It's actually funny, becasue George has no way of knowing
what I do for a living. However, as difficult as it is for
an idea to penetrate the pea God gave him for a brain, it's
just as difficult to dislodge it, once it does. If you
refute *anything* he utters, why, you must be a liar...
-- Ron
George M. Middius
>>Here is Mr Kruger who just told a nasty dirty lie that was
>>supposed to make Mr Middius look like a bad person and
>>when it turns out that
>>everyone can see it is a lie Mr Kruger does not even care.
>How do you know it was a lie?
Well, Arnii, even "Kevin" knows that because you admitted
it. There, that wasn't so difficult, was it?
BTW, when you troll like this, do you prefer to be
labeled a "lying sack of shit" or "the Hugely Grisly
Lying Cyborg from Hell"?
Gruvmyster
> Crowning your massive display of unbridled lying,
> uninhibited hypocrisy, brazen skulduggery, and
> unparalleled fatuosity, you slink back into the sewer...
...to be met by George Middius. After seeing the tiny, rat
infested hovel where George rested his pointy little head at
night, Arny gagged at the oppressive stench, wished George well
and made his way back to the life normals enjoy.
"I wish I could be one of them," George thought as he ate his
meager meal of rat pate on a moldy cracker, "but I didn't get the
brains in this incarnation." As he slowly chewed his food, he
added, "Maybe I'll have better luck next time." He pulled his
tattered shawl around his wasting shoulders and went to sleep. He
had to be up early, or all the choice spots would be overrun with
other panhandlers. The city could be so cruel...
Doug
Surfshop
You forgot the part about the brandy and the internet and the
mutual felatio he enjoyed with Powell.
Surfshop
>
You're so full of shit, Cheech.
You know I think George and Powell WILL unlock the clubhouse
door and let you in - you big caballo.
The Devil
>> Crowning your massive display of unbridled lying,
>> uninhibited hypocrisy, brazen skulduggery, and
>> unparalleled fatuosity, you slink back into the sewer...
>...to be met by George Middius. After seeing the tiny,
>rat infested hovel where George rested his pointy little
>head at night, Arny gagged at the oppressive stench,
>wished George well and made his way back to the life
>normals enjoy.
>"I wish I could be one of them," George thought as he ate his
>meager meal of rat pate on a moldy cracker, "but I didn't get the
>brains in this incarnation." As he slowly chewed his food, he
>added, "Maybe I'll have better luck next time." He pulled his
>tattered shawl around his wasting shoulders and went to sleep. He
>had to be up early, or all the choice spots would be overrun with
>other panhandlers. The city could be so cruel...
...to newly liberated women like GrubMystress, who blinked her
black eyes and shook her head. When she felt a presence around
her, she slowly peeled herself off the sidewalk. Was it possible
for someone to be so dense they could survive a suicide attempt
from a thirty storey building? She supposed it must be. Her
mother had after she'd given birth to Grub. And come to think
of it, so had Grub herself, even though her cot had been chained
to the steel ball daddy usually kept anchored to MommyGrub's
neck. Certainly Grub's father had been stiff enough when the
police found him impaling grandma. And there'd been no
shovel to move all that earth, either. Maybe Dense ran in
the Grub family like the best dinners run through drain pipes.
As she got to her knees, GrubMystress saw that her stiff breasts
had made two bowls in the asphalt. Protecting her eyes from the
sunlight with the back of her hand, squinting, she looked at the
building she had just jumped from, and saw that her descent
was marked in the leering fascia of concrete. Her starched green
hair had scraped against the office buildings, cutting scars and
bringing down rubble. Above the bowls in the asphalt, Grub
saw that her hair had left an imprint of scribble not unlike her
own handwriting.
How cruel hair could be. What wicked *statements* it could
make.
There were no jobs for women, at least none for women with
her special qualities. Indeed the job agency said they'd never
heard of someone who cleaned toilets with their tongue,
even if it was black. 'What,' the manager of BurgerKing
had said, 'you use your asshole hair as a mop? Get
the fack outta here!'
'What about economy?' Grub bleated. 'It's all the rage in
the free market.'
'What about a little self-respect, lady?'
'What about if I fuck you?'
The manager hung up. Grub slammed the yellow pages shut and
stared bitterly at it.
'Stupid asshole,' she said at last, and then tossed herself off the
building, knowing that wings would sprout from the back of her
head or Arnii would be there to catch her. At least, if life had any
meaning at all that's what would happen.
Like the yellowy smell on the gusset of her favourite tights,
Grub's confusion at the injustice of the world thickened the
more she toyed with the possibilites. She stood, opened her
handbag and removed the pretty red purse Arnii had given to
her for Christmas.
Oh, Christmas. Oh, Arnii.
She tweezed the purse open and fetched out two snails. She put
them on the sidewalk in front of her and stamped on them, one
after the other.
There, that was better.
She turned away and, with her crooked chin cocked like
a motionless boomerang in the air, set off into the heaving
metropolis. Were people staring? Should she have put
on some clothes? What the hell? This was what being
liberated was all about. Let them see her in all her glory.
Let them weep at the honesty of this statement. Let
there be god in her life.
__
Roy Briggs. Remove [SPAMOFF] to reply.
Arny Krüger
George M. Middius wrote in message
>The Krooborg continues to tune up its Big Lie Machine.
>
>Well, Arnii, even "Kevin" knows that because you admitted
>it. There, that wasn't so difficult, was it?
Where did I admit it was a lie?
Arny Krüger
KevinLng wrote in message
<19981015180442...@ng75.aol.com>...
>>How do you know it was a lie?
>
with words that go
>in circles and circles. There are too many word circles
here all the time
>anyhow I think. Maybe I just think that just because I am a
square :-)
Not answering questions today, are we!
>You said it was a lie even though you did not say so right
direct back to Mr
>middius.
Where did I say it was a lie?
Arny Krüger
Ron wrote in message
<36268197...@news.concentric.net>...
>Reminds me of the time Poor George 'acused' me of being a
>dealer. I commented that, no, I was not. George came back
>with ... you guessed it: "Liar!"...
>
>It's actually funny, becasue George has no way of knowing
>what I do for a living. However, as difficult as it is for
>an idea to penetrate the pea God gave him for a brain, it's
>just as difficult to dislodge it, once it does. If you
>refute *anything* he utters, why, you must be a liar...
Sounds like the Midbot we all know and *love*. ;-)
HiFiCheech
>You're so full of shit, Cheech.
>You know I think George and Powell WILL unlock the clubhouse
>door and let you in - you big caballo.
I am now worried about you Tom mi amigo. You are becoming as loco as that crica
Leslie la gordita! First you do not think I am really me. Then you think I
really am me but I pretend to be somebody else who is not me. What will you
think next you crazy cabron? That I am your friend Roy?
I was born in Ponce PR if you want to know and I have relatives in the
Dominican Republic which is where I am going now. My fucking flight was
cancelled yesterday. Do you want the flight number to check senor concha
peluda? I will give it to you. I live in New York near the Willis Avenue
bridge and you can ask El Grande Gordo Zipser where that is and he will tell
you. I bet maybe he has even seen the place of business where I work. Right
after the bridge but before you get on the FDR there are two stores on the same
small block. One of them is where I work. I install car alarms and car stereos
and that is why I am called HiFiCheech you maleton. The other store on the
block has a big sign that says WE FIX FLATS. Everybody in New York has seen
the store because there are about a thousand fucking hubcaps on a big stand
right in front of the store. The owner is a very smart thief. His two young
sons hang out by this big pothole on the FDR drive and when a car hits it
usually a hubcap flies off the car. By the time the driver has slowed down and
stopped the car one of these little pajeros has grabbed the hubcap and run.
I have to go but I will be back sometime next week. Probably Tuesday unless
they cancel my fucking flight again! Hasta la vista.
Cheech
HiFiCheech
Why did Kruger pour a whole big bottle of Viagra into his sons throat when they
found the body?
Because science says that it is very good for bringing dead little pricks back
to life.
You know why I can tell such terrible cruel joke? It is because I think that
chulo madre Kruger has made up the whole thing about his son. I am going to
visit relatives in the Dominican Republic this weekend. Some of their friends
have lost children in the hurricane. I do not think any of them are making
jokes about money for a funeral like your blood brother kruger does. That is
why I think he made it up. Nobody can do that unless they are a pedazo de
pelotudo. You get it?
Adios for now.
Cheech O.
Powell
>Surfshop wrote
>You forgot the part about the brandy and
>the internet and the mutual felatio he enjoyed
>with Powell.
>
Surfshop, too. You two should go out on a date
and "enjoy" yourself as you said.
Powell
>Surfshop wrote
>You forgot the part about the brandy and
>the internet and the mutual felatio he enjoyed
>with Powell.
>
picked a Gay male fantasy. Did you "enjoy"
as you said, running that scenario over and
over in your mind before you posted? NOT
that there is anything wrong with being you
being Gay and all :-).
Surfshop
> I am now worried about you Tom mi amigo. You are becoming as loco as that crica
> Leslie la gordita! First you do not think I am really me. Then you think I
> really am me but I pretend to be somebody else who is not me. What will you
> think next you crazy cabron? That I am your friend Roy?
That's exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for the confirmation.
trotsky
HiFiCheech wrote:
> Tom wrote
> >You're so full of shit, Cheech.
> >You know I think George and Powell WILL unlock the clubhouse
> >door and let you in - you big caballo.
>
> I am now worried about you Tom mi amigo. You are becoming as loco as that crica
> Leslie la gordita! First you do not think I am really me. Then you think I
> really am me but I pretend to be somebody else who is not me. What will you
> think next you crazy cabron? That I am your friend Roy?
>
> I was born in Ponce PR if you want to know and I have relatives in the
> Dominican Republic which is where I am going now. My fucking flight was
> cancelled yesterday. Do you want the flight number to check senor concha
> peluda? I will give it to you. I live in New York near the Willis Avenue
> bridge and you can ask El Grande Gordo Zipser where that is and he will tell
> you. I bet maybe he has even seen the place of business where I work. Right
> after the bridge but before you get on the FDR there are two stores on the same
> small block. One of them is where I work. I install car alarms and car stereos
> and that is why I am called HiFiCheech you maleton. The other store on the
> block has a big sign that says WE FIX FLATS. Everybody in New York has seen
> the store because there are about a thousand fucking hubcaps on a big stand
> right in front of the store. The owner is a very smart thief. His two young
> sons hang out by this big pothole on the FDR drive and when a car hits it
> usually a hubcap flies off the car. By the time the driver has slowed down and
> stopped the car one of these little pajeros has grabbed the hubcap and run.
>
> I have to go but I will be back sometime next week. Probably Tuesday unless
> they cancel my fucking flight again! Hasta la vista.
>
> Cheech
Interesting how Zip and Cheech are leaving town at exactly the same time, and
Cheech even mentions Zip in his post.
The Devil
>HiFiCheech wrote:
>> I am now worried about you Tom mi amigo. You are becoming as
>> loco as that crica Leslie la gordita! First you do not think I am
>> really me. Then you think I really am me but I pretend to be
>> somebody else who is not me. What will you think next you
>> crazy cabron? That I am your friend Roy?
>That's exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for the confirmation.
Er, excuse me? Do you think I would create an alias to say things
I have no problem saying as Roy Briggs? Here, here's a Roy Briggs
post, Tom:
Arnii lied about his kid dying. Arnii fucks corpses. If his kid
really did die, I'm sure he'd fuck him, cut him up into bits,
and then put him in the freezer next to the babies he's stolen.
He comes in Doug's green hair while they watch snuff movies.
OK? You still think I need an alias?
Arny Krüger
HiFiCheech wrote in message
<19981016090739...@ng126.aol.com>...
>Senor Doug here is a good joke for you that I know you will
not like very much.
>
>Why did Kruger pour a whole big bottle of Viagra into his
sons throat when they
>found the body?
>
>Because science says that it is very good for bringing dead
little pricks back
>to life.
>
>You know why I can tell such terrible cruel joke? It is
because I think that
>chulo madre Kruger has made up the whole thing about his
son.
Check out http://www.dnps.com/dies/0929dies.htm , and search
under the word "Krueger".
George M. Middius
>>You know why I can tell such terrible cruel joke?
>>It is because I think that chulo madre Kruger has
>>made up the whole thing about his son.
>Check out http://www.dnps.com/dies/0929dies.htm , and search
>under the word "Krueger".
Yep, there it is. A true-sounding death notice for
"KRUEGER, NATHAN, Dearest son of Arnold and Susan".
I also notice that Arnii's mama is still living, but his
father is not. Cheech, how about a murder-suicide as a
working theory? Nate used Arnii's gun on Grandpa, then
deliberately ODed on drugs. Too bad the frame-up failed,
of course.
George M. Middius
>Interesting how Zip and Cheech are leaving town at exactly the
>same time, and Cheech even mentions Zip in his post.
On the other side, Zippy and TomYutz suspect that "Cheech"
is really Roy Briggs. Maybe Bruce is onto something with
the betting pool.
Tom Albertz
>
> Interesting how Zip and Cheech are leaving town at exactly the same time, and
> Cheech even mentions Zip in his post.
That IS interesting. It may just be ruse intending to throw you of one
track and onto another. I just don't think Zip hates Arny that much.
There are only a few - and some of them may be the same one.
George M. Middius
>Arnii lied about his kid dying. Arnii fucks corpses. If his kid
>really did die, I'm sure he'd fuck him, cut him up into bits,
>and then put him in the freezer next to the babies he's stolen.
>He comes in Doug's green hair while they watch snuff movies.
[bow, scrape, kneel]
You are the Master, Roy.
Arny Krüger
Tom Albertz wrote in message
<362765B1...@notreally.com>...
>trotsky wrote:
>>
>> Interesting how Zip and Cheech are leaving town at
exactly the same time, and
>> Cheech even mentions Zip in his post.
Could be an obvious red herring.
>That IS interesting. It may just be ruse intending to
throw you of one
>track and onto another. I just don't think Zip hates Arny
that much.
For quite a while, Zip and I have been not making anything
personal about our differences of opinion with respect to
audio. This seems to help.
>There are only a few - and some of them may be the same
one.
Like Middius and his sound-alikes? Nahhh!
Tom Albertz
>
> Surfshop wrote
>
> >HiFiCheech wrote:
>
> >> I am now worried about you Tom mi amigo. You are becoming as
> >> loco as that crica Leslie la gordita! First you do not think I am
> >> really me. Then you think I really am me but I pretend to be
> >> somebody else who is not me. What will you think next you
> >> crazy cabron? That I am your friend Roy?
>
> >That's exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for the confirmation.
>
> Er, excuse me? Do you think I would create an alias to say things
> I have no problem saying as Roy Briggs?
That's not the point. I can think of all kinds of reasons you
might do it. You probably could too if you weren't being so
defensive.
> Here, here's a Roy Briggs post, Tom:
>
> Arnii lied about his kid dying. Arnii fucks corpses. If his kid
> really did die, I'm sure he'd fuck him, cut him up into bits,
> and then put him in the freezer next to the babies he's stolen.
> He comes in Doug's green hair while they watch snuff movies.
Here's my theory, Roy. If this stuff doesn't bother Arny, then
it only serves to make you look bad. If it does bother him, which
I have to believe it does - and I also believe YOU believe it does;
then it is the most unfair, hurtful, hateful, vengeful, UNFAIR
use of information that this newsgroup has ever seen. I don't
think if you lost a son that you would tell us. I think Arny did
because he had some trust in this community. If we became aware
of such a loss to you, I'm sure NO ONE would do this to you.
Don't take this as any kind of approval for Arny or any of his
behavior. It's only a comment on yours. It disappoints me that
you go there. It's impossible for me to ignore this behavior
and impossible for me to respect you for having behaved this
way. I suspect my comments will have as much affect on you
(other than to piss you off) as my comments to Arny do on him.
I'm sure I'm going right into the target group with Leslie and
Doug now. Fine. I happen to think they're right and you're
wrong. I'm also sure they have a lot more respect from normal
people than you and George do.
That's all, Cheech.
>
> OK? You still think I need an alias?
I never said or implied you did.
Jester
Arny Krüger wrote in message <707p7l$jrn$1...@excalibur.flash.net>...
>Like Middius and his sound-alikes? Nahhh!
And they would be whom?
Jester
The Devil
>> Er, excuse me? Do you think I would create an alias to say things
>> I have no problem saying as Roy Briggs?
>That's not the point. I can think of all kinds of reasons you
>might do it. You probably could too if you weren't being so
>defensive.
Well, Tom, you can believe what you like. I am not Cheech
and I have no idea who he is.
>Here's my theory, Roy. If this stuff doesn't bother Arny, then
>it only serves to make you look bad. If it does bother him, which
>I have to believe it does - and I also believe YOU believe it does;
>then it is the most unfair, hurtful, hateful, vengeful, UNFAIR
>use of information that this newsgroup has ever seen. I don't
>think if you lost a son that you would tell us. I think Arny did
>because he had some trust in this community.
Well, I think Arnii invented the entire thing. And I think he did
it because he knew a few out-of-place wisecracks about his
supposedly deceased son would cause eyes to be turned on
Their side and questions raised this side. Bound to lead to
problems, precisely what Arnii confesses to adore.
>If we became aware
>of such a loss to you, I'm sure NO ONE would do this to you.
I wouldn't invent something like that in the first place.
>Don't take this as any kind of approval for Arny or any of his
>behavior. It's only a comment on yours. It disappoints me that
>you go there. It's impossible for me to ignore this behavior
>and impossible for me to respect you for having behaved this
>way.
Whether you or anyone else on this newsgroup respects me
is of no concern to me at all. It never has been. Maybe if we
knew each other in real life and got on I might feel very
differently.
>I suspect my comments will have as much affect on you
>(other than to piss you off) as my comments to Arny do
>on him.
I'm listening, if that's what you mean, and I don't believe
I'm being unreasonable, smarmy, or sarcastic.
>I'm sure I'm going right into the target group with Leslie and
>Doug now. Fine. I happen to think they're right and you're
>wrong.
If Arnii hadn't lied about the whole thing and cracked those
jokes about his kid while carrying on baiting people and
shitting on them, I would be the first to agree with you.
>I'm also sure they have a lot more respect from normal
>people than you and George do.
Like I said, that really doesn't bother me. This is RAO, and
as far as I'm concerned, I gave up on this group being a nice
and informative place to hang out long ago. It was people like
Arnii who ruined it for me.
>That's all, Cheech.
Like I said, believe what you like.
>> OK? You still think I need an alias?
>I never said or implied you did.
?
George M. Middius
>I just don't think Zip hates Arny that much.
>There are only a few - and some of them may be the same one.
Which of them do you suspect of being "the same one," Tom?
George M. Middius
>>Like Middius and his sound-alikes? Nahhh!
>And they would be whom?
They would be the voices in Arnii's head that mock him the
same way I do, I suspect.
trotsky
George M. Middius wrote:
> trotsky said:
>
> >Interesting how Zip and Cheech are leaving town at exactly the
> >same time, and Cheech even mentions Zip in his post.
>
> On the other side, Zippy and TomYutz suspect that "Cheech"
> is really Roy Briggs. Maybe Bruce is onto something with
> the betting pool.
>
> George M. Middius
> Remove "jiffy" to reply
I disagree. I think one should look at the facts, instead of making
wild guesses. How many aliases can we come up for for Zip? Yankigohm
et al, TomYutz, Slikwili/Bill E. Clinton, whatever Israeli name he used,
Senor Wences (probably the precursor to Cheech.) and many others, to be
sure. Zip really seems to get off on these aliases. The only thing
that makes me think Cheech isn't Zip is that he is more coherent than
Zip is--my second choice is "Shitstorm" Williams, or perhaps even one of
his Karl Malden's nose buddies.
Arny Krüger
George M. Middius wrote in message
>"Jester" asked the Hugely Grisly One:
>
>>>Like Middius and his sound-alikes? Nahhh!
>
>>And they would be whom?
>
>They would be the voices in Arnii's head that mock him the
same way I do, I suspect.
The voices in my head, being as they are in my head (and not
yours), do a far better job of that!
No, I'm referring to the more immature, frequently
off-topic, and technically illiterate "usual suspects" on
RAO
Arny Krüger
George M. Middius wrote in message
I don't think my Dad's Obit is on the web, being that he
died in 1986. Now if Nate could have pulled off a
murder-suicide like that when he was 4, and then live for 12
more years after his suicide, that would be quite an
accomplishment, would it not? ;-)
Are you getting hard up for something to whine about or
what?
George M. Middius
>I don't think my Dad's Obit is on the web, being that he
>died in 1986. Now if Nate could have pulled off a
>murder-suicide like that when he was 4, and then live for 12
>more years after his suicide, that would be quite an
>accomplishment, would it not? ;-)
So it was you who offed your dad. I suspect you
convinced poor Nate that Grandpa's death was his fault,
and that guilt-trip drove the boy to suicide.
>Are you getting hard up for something to whine about or what?
What fates are you planning for the remaining survivors
in your family, Arnii?
Tom Albertz
>
> >Surfshop wrote
> >You forgot the part about the brandy and
> >the internet and the mutual felatio he enjoyed
> >with Powell.
> >
> Of all the things you could have said you
> picked a Gay male fantasy.
Well George and Roy use it often. I thought it
must have special significance in the "clubhouse".
Sorry it bothered you so much.
The Devil
>>I also notice that Arnii's mama is still living, but his
>>father is not. Cheech, how about a murder-suicide as a
>>working theory? Nate used Arnii's gun on Grandpa, then
>>deliberately ODed on drugs. Too bad the frame-up failed,
>>of course.
>I don't think my Dad's Obit is on the web, being that he
>died in 1986. Now if Nate could have pulled off a
>murder-suicide like that when he was 4, and then live for 12
>more years after his suicide, that would be quite an
>accomplishment, would it not? ;-)
Not with a father like you. Nate's probably rotting there right
now with custard puddings where his eyes should be. You're
probably operating wires on his hands to wax the hairs off
your dismembered wife's fanny.
Jester
Arny Krüger wrote in message <707s3g$ois$1...@excalibur.flash.net>...
>No, I'm referring to the more immature, frequently
>off-topic, and technically illiterate "usual suspects" on
>RAO
Would you be kind enough to list all of those you usually refer to as the
"usual suspects?" I see several folks use this broad label without any
definition. Like names, for instance.
Jester
KevinLng
>>
Well I think it was a lie even if you did not really truly say it isa lie
because you sound like President Clinton trying to say that oral sex is not
really sex. You said George got caught doing something wrong and then you said
that you did not catch him but maybe somebody else could catch him even if you
cant and that does not sound honest to me. I hope this is not confusing.
I hope I am not right about you because I am studying science and want to be a
scientist too and I think that a lot of people here are like very very
superstitious and are belieiving in some of the things they believe about audio
that are not science at all. I am worried because I hope you are honest and I
am wrong. In college I want to study premed and maybe do research one day if I
can. I think science means that you must be very very honest about what you
do. I think science is supposed to be a way to make sure people are honest
about what they think too. If you are lying and you are a scientist that is
bad. Maybe you were not lying and I am wrong since I can not prove for sure you
were. We just learned about probability and sinificance and I think that you
probably were lying but oh well. If you do not want me to write to you any more
here than just tell me and I will not.
Kevin Laing
Tom Albertz
>
> Well, I think Arnii invented the entire thing. And I think he did
> it because he knew a few out-of-place wisecracks about his
> supposedly deceased son would cause eyes to be turned on
> Their side and questions raised this side. Bound to lead to
> problems, precisely what Arnii confesses to adore.
Your theory. Well - it's working - definitely questions being
asked about your side.
> Whether you or anyone else on this newsgroup respects me
> is of no concern to me at all. It never has been. Maybe if we
> knew each other in real life and got on I might feel very
> differently.
Well there are real people here; and there are real relationships
here. I was beginning to feel like I was getting to know you and
that we were "getting on". Just because I can't buy you a beer,
doesn't mean nothing is real. You have shown extreme talent and
humor and lucidity. I envy your talents in some areas.
> I'm listening, if that's what you mean, and I don't believe
> I'm being unreasonable, smarmy, or sarcastic.
Well - if Arny invented the whole thing, he's more clever than
you are - if you invented Cheech and Laing. I think the latter
is more likely and still very clever - IF...
> Like I said, that really doesn't bother me. This is RAO, and
> as far as I'm concerned, I gave up on this group being a nice
> and informative place to hang out long ago. It was people like
> Arnii who ruined it for me.
You and George are both intelligent and capable of responding
to Arny in a way that makes him look bad without making yourselves
look way worse.
> >That's all, Cheech.
> Like I said, believe what you like.
You're beginning to convince me although I would expect you
to deny the allegation just as you have either way. Whether
you invented them, I believe they are a product of the same
person.
> >> OK? You still think I need an alias?
> >I never said or implied you did.
> ?
Key word: NEED
Arny Krüger
Jester wrote in message
<7080a8$dde$1...@samsara0.mindspring.com>...
Unh, that would be a personal attack, and I don't want to
get certain people all upset and huffy.
Arny Krüger
George M. Middius wrote in message
>The Krooborg panics and heads for the hills.
>
>>died in 1986. Now if Nate could have pulled off a
>>murder-suicide like that when he was 4, and then live for
12
>>more years after his suicide, that would be quite an
>>accomplishment, would it not? ;-)
>
>convinced poor Nate that Grandpa's death was his fault,
>and that guilt-trip drove the boy to suicide.
Nahh, it was something about a 14 year battle with
Parkinson's.
>What fates are you planning for the remaining survivors in
your family, Arnii?
I think God will take care of that. ;-)
Arny Krüger
The Devil wrote in message
<707vlf$l4o$1...@newsreader1.core.theplanet.net>...
>Arny Krüger wrote
>
>>>I also notice that Arnii's mama is still living, but his
>>>father is not. Cheech, how about a murder-suicide as a
>>>working theory? Nate used Arnii's gun on Grandpa, then
>>>deliberately ODed on drugs. Too bad the frame-up failed,
>>>of course.
>
>>died in 1986. Now if Nate could have pulled off a
>>murder-suicide like that when he was 4, and then live for
12
>>more years after his suicide, that would be quite an
>>accomplishment, would it not? ;-)
>
right
>now with custard puddings where his eyes should be. You're
>probably operating wires on his hands to wax the hairs off
>your dismembered wife's fanny.
>
Nate's eyes? Well, according to this letter we got, each
cornea was sucessfully transplanted into the head of two
different guys from the western part of Michigan who now
can see. No rotting going on there, yet.
This kinda begs the question what will be transplantable
from your bod and whether we can arrange to get the process
started right away on the grounds of demonstrated brain
death! ;-)
BJRICHMAN
>George M. Middius wrote:
>
>> trotsky said:
>>
>> >Interesting how Zip and Cheech are leaving town at exactly the
>> >same time, and Cheech even mentions Zip in his post.
>>
>> On the other side, Zippy and TomYutz suspect that "Cheech"
>> is really Roy Briggs. Maybe Bruce is onto something with
>> the betting pool.
>>
>> George M. Middius
>> Remove "jiffy" to reply
>
>I disagree. I think one should look at the facts, instead of making
>wild guesses. How many aliases can we come up for for Zip? Yankigohm
>et al, TomYutz, Slikwili/Bill E. Clinton, whatever Israeli name he used,
>Senor Wences (probably the precursor to Cheech.) and many others, to be
>sure. Zip really seems to get off on these aliases. The only thing
>that makes me think Cheech isn't Zip is that he is more coherent than
>Zip is--my second choice is "Shitstorm" Williams, or perhaps even one of
>his Karl Malden's nose buddies.
>
>
>
As I said in my original post re. aliases and who *really* owns them, I've yet
to see any credible evidence re. *anybody* who regularly posts here using an
alias. Lots of speculation (as, e.g. with Zip), which is entertaining and
sometimes funny, but no real evidence.
FWIW, the aliases *I've* uncovered (and will forever keep confidential as
requested by the "owners"), came solely by accident (well, perhaps after a
little trolling) and were by direct e-mail private conversations with the alias
holders, whom saw fit to share that information with me because they knew I
could be trusted with this information.
My suggestion for a betting pool re. one of our more prominent alias holders
(pick the one you prefer) was simply designed to elicit the facts (verifiable)
in a relatively harmless, entertaining way. After the upcoming contest (cable
games) is completed, I think we should consider this.
Bruce J. Richman
Jester
Arny Krüger wrote in message <7084cn$9gq$1...@excalibur.flash.net>...
Uh, that has never slowed you down before.
Besides, don't you think that phrase is a sort of broad brush to use,
without giving it some definition? Isn't that a similar tactic George uses
that you so deplore?
Jester
BT S
>NOT that there is anything wrong with being you being Gay and all :-)<
I'm guessing Seinfeld.Am I right?
Sully
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trotsky
BJRICHMAN wrote:
Bruce, we need to clarify a few things. First, I wish you and Albertz would stop
discussing this cable showdown, unless one or both of you is willing to make sure
the cash is in place. Unless, of course, you're desire is to repeatedly mentally
masturbate like a Doogy Haugen.
Two, if you continue with your new game of "I have facts but I can't tell you what
they are" I will have to categorically tell you that is the same thing as saying
you have no facts. In addition, what proof do you have that those individuals who
allegedly admitted to these aliases are telling the truth?
Third, I left out Hugh Jass as one of Zip's aliases. I think I might call Sunshine
Stereo tomorrow to see if Zip answers, 'cause I don't think he has left town at
this point.
BJRICHMAN
>Bruce, we need to clarify a few things. First, I wish you and Albertz would
>stop
>discussing this cable showdown, unless one or both of you is willing to make
>sure
>the cash is in place. Unless, of course, you're desire is to repeatedly
>mentally
>masturbate like a Doogy Haugen.
You're directing flames at the wrong source. Trolling via comparing or trying
to lump me with others that you dislike is not going to work. My opinions are
mine and mine alone - and I'm not trying to "align" myself with anyone in
particular - or take "sides". I've never been a part of the wagering business,
and have never professed to be. Your comments are misdirected.
>
>Two, if you continue with your new game of "I have facts but I can't tell you
>what
>they are" I will have to categorically tell you that is the same thing as
>saying
>you have no facts.
That's bullshit. Have you ever heard of private e-mail? I can't prevent you
from misinterpreting my comments. However, in my profession, and I assume,
many others, people are given confidential information all the time and treat
it as such. You may not know this, but in most states psychologists enjoy what
is called "privileged communication" status - which means, as with physicians,
lawyers, and clergy - information obtained privately cannot be revealed even
under subpoenas (unless there's a court order from a judge). You're playing
fast and loose here with misintepretations of confidential information.
Greg, try telling somebody your doctor has information about you - then tell
the doctor that unless he tells everybody publically about your medical
history, he "has no facts". Let me know when he stops laughing at you. The
only one playing a "new game" here may be you - and trolling isn't really a new
game.
In addition, what proof do you have that those
>individuals who
>allegedly admitted to these aliases are telling the truth?
How about personal conversations with them via telephone and in person? Of
course, I could be making this up also. How do I know you're Greg Singh? (See
the problem with this type of suspiciousness?).
>
>Third, I left out Hugh Jass as one of Zip's aliases. I think I might call
>Sunshine
>Stereo tomorrow to see if Zip answers, 'cause I don't think he has left town
>at
>this point.
>
>
Dr. Jass is most definitely an alias. It is also most definitely not Zip
(unless you want to believe my information is fraudulent - which would be your
problem, not mine). Dr. Jass lives in Texas, not Florida.
Perhaps I'm a little more trusting of people than you are, Greg. Actually,
Zip's store/house is not too far from where I live and I've met him - but
naaaaah, you probably don't believe *that* either - or do you. However, I'm
not suspicious enough of his motives to drive by and see if he's home.
(I'm not one of his customers). YMMV.
In closing, you're making a big mistake by assuming erroneously, that Tom
Albertz, Doug Hagen and I share the same values, opinions, or goals. We may or
may not. I'd suggest, respectfully, that you try (as I do, although not always
successfully) to respond strictly to the content of my posts without assuming
there's any particular motivation behind them other than what is explicitly
stated in them. I speak only for myself, nobody else on rec.audio.opinion and
as I've said in prior posts, think a lot of the objectivist-subjectivist
polarization and fighting around here is pretty silly.
For the record, there are certain so-called subjectivists that I respect and
some that I despise; there are also some objectivists that I respect and some
that I despise. I consider myself a "middle-of-the-roader" (if one *has* to use
labels). If rec.audio.moderated comes to pass, I plan to carry that attitude
and frame-of-reference into that group.
Bruce J. Richman
trotsky
BJRICHMAN wrote:
> Gregh Singh wrote:
>
> >Bruce, we need to clarify a few things. First, I wish you and Albertz would
> >stop
> >discussing this cable showdown, unless one or both of you is willing to make
> >sure
> >the cash is in place. Unless, of course, you're desire is to repeatedly
> >mentally
> >masturbate like a Doogy Haugen.
>
> You're directing flames at the wrong source. Trolling via comparing or trying
> to lump me with others that you dislike is not going to work. My opinions are
> mine and mine alone - and I'm not trying to "align" myself with anyone in
> particular - or take "sides". I've never been a part of the wagering business,
> and have never professed to be. Your comments are misdirected.
Bullshit. I'm not placing you on any side, other than the side of the stupid
people who think this test is going to happen without the conditions previously
outlined being met. There is nothing unclear about this or my previous statement.
>
>
> >
> >Two, if you continue with your new game of "I have facts but I can't tell you
> >what
> >they are" I will have to categorically tell you that is the same thing as
> >saying
> >you have no facts.
>
> That's bullshit. Have you ever heard of private e-mail? I can't prevent you
> from misinterpreting my comments. However, in my profession, and I assume,
> many others, people are given confidential information all the time and treat
> it as such. You may not know this, but in most states psychologists enjoy what
> is called "privileged communication" status - which means, as with physicians,
> lawyers, and clergy - information obtained privately cannot be revealed even
> under subpoenas (unless there's a court order from a judge). You're playing
> fast and loose here with misintepretations of confidential information.
You are confusing privileged communication status in your professional life with
acting in a lame fashion on a discussion group. Again, there is nothing unclear
about this or my previous statement.
>
>
> Greg, try telling somebody your doctor has information about you - then tell
> the doctor that unless he tells everybody publically about your medical
> history, he "has no facts". Let me know when he stops laughing at you. The
> only one playing a "new game" here may be you - and trolling isn't really a new
> game.
Bruce, if you are really placing e-mail about goofy newsgroups on the same level as
a doctor-patient relationship then you are slghtly delusional. Don't worry,
though, you have a ways to go to catch up with Kroogy.
Your neutrality is not at issue, and never was, from me, so unfortunately this is
you playing straw man. However, I hope this post will clarify what it was I was
taking exception to. And really, Bruce, if you don't think most of the goofier
pseudonyms on this group aren't coming from Zip's slightly warped brain then I have
to wonder about you.
Stewart Pinkerton
>Nate's eyes? Well, according to this letter we got, each
>cornea was sucessfully transplanted into the head of two
>different guys from the western part of Michigan who now
>can see. No rotting going on there, yet.
>
>This kinda begs the question what will be transplantable
>from your bod and whether we can arrange to get the process
>started right away on the grounds of demonstrated brain
>death! ;-)
Nice response. Two barrels. Kudos.
--
Stewart Pinkerton | Music is art, audio is engineering
BJRICHMAN
You're wrong about one thing still. I don't assume it will happen. Since I
don't control the bets or conditions, I don't assume it will or will not take
place. After all, I wasn't the one that started this contest in the first
place, now , was I.
>> >
No, unfortunately, IMO, there's nothing unclear. It definitely sounds like
you're saying that people whom have information about others on
rec.audio.opinion but withold it, are liars. Oh - and if they don't they're
lame. I make no distinction, Greg, between confidentiality on a discussion
group and confidentiality in my professional life. If somebody on r.a.o. asks
me to keep certain information to myself re. them, I'll do so. If you think
that's lame, so be it.
>>
>>
>> Greg, try telling somebody your doctor has information about you - then
>tell
>> the doctor that unless he tells everybody publically about your medical
>> history, he "has no facts". Let me know when he stops laughing at you.
>The
>> only one playing a "new game" here may be you - and trolling isn't really a
>new
>> game.
>
>Bruce, if you are really placing e-mail about goofy newsgroups on the same
>level as
>a doctor-patient relationship then you are slghtly delusional. Don't worry,
>though, you have a ways to go to catch up with Kroogy.
Thanks - that's reassuring to know. See my comments above about
confidentiality. I'm not about to jeopardize my license - even socially - by
idle chatter - even on something as trivial as r.a.o. - by divulging
confidential information (unless I get a signed written release of course).
Speaking of Arny, BTW, prior to the unfortunate death of his son, he offered to
"proctor" an "intelligence test" contest between you and Doug Haugen - provided
he be allowed to take the MMPI (personality test) *himself* when presumably,
you and Doug do the same. As I recall, there was some discussion of all you
guys doing this through local universities. Still interested - if the others
are? My only role in this would probably be to perhaps collect the test
results and report them on rec.audio.opinion (or even on rec.audio.moderated, I
suppose). (As a licensed psychologist, I could probably get the results from
whomever tests you guys if y'all give me the requisite "releases of
information"). Just wondering.
Then wonder. I *know* where some of the pseudonyms are coming from, and am
simply curious about some of the others. It appears from recent comments that
there's a lot of speculation about Cheech, Bill E. Clinton, the anonymous boys,
etc. Refer to the thread about aliases; it's simply not that easy to
verifiably trace an alias. As I've said, I've seen no credible evidence here
about anybody's true identity - so the issue is pretty moot at this point.
Let's keep it mellow, Greg :-)
Bruce J. Richman
The Devil
>The Devil wrote:
>>Not with a father like you. Nate's probably rotting there
>>right now with custard puddings where his eyes should
>>be. You're probably operating wires on his hands to
>>wax the hairs off your dismembered wife's fanny.
>Nate's eyes? Well, according to this letter we got, each
>cornea was sucessfully transplanted into the head of two
>different guys from the western part of Michigan who now
>can see.
Two guys sharing the same head, and two corneas transplanted
into one eye-head? Wow, no wonder you're eager to butcher to
get body parts for your 'science' experiments. Tell me, do
you and the scarecrow you murdered who you fondly call
'wife' share the same asshole to speak out of? When you're at
dinner parties and the sick bag you've fitted into your wife's
head bursts, do you pretend you've been sick or do you
slap the stiff tart around the face and tell her it's no church on
Sunday? How do you pass off a slouching mound of rot as
a living human being, other than that she might appear to
be a likely partner for your good self?
>No rotting going on there, yet.
Well, you could have at least waited until Nate was dead before
you spooned out his eyes and shovelled them into someone else's
face. Even 'scientific' fathers usually wait until their children
are dead before chopping them up, Arnii. BTW, did the recipients
actually require a new eye-head, or did your Christian benevolence
override their personal needs?
>This kinda begs the question what will be transplantable
>from your bod and whether we can arrange to get the process
>started right away on the grounds of demonstrated brain
>death! ;-)
My lungs - filthy, rotten, and full of tar. I'd make sure the
intended recipient was someone like you, of course.
Gruvmyster
> HiFiCheech wrote in message
I think this puta is either George or Roy. It's just as
disgusting, and its Spanish is less than convincing.
Doug
Brian Leupp
Are you suggesting that the stench of his own hypocrisy should somehow
*bother* Arny? Well, it never has, and I'm guessing he rather enjoys it.
It would certainly bother an ethical man, however.
Brian
Arny Krüger
Gruvmyster wrote in message <36280385...@idt.net>...
How about this one, Roy is actually the same demented head
as is behind the Midbot...?
We could go on like this for hours, and not prove a thing.
;-)
Surfshop
[snip]
You're right, George. He IS the master.
Gruvmyster
> Er, excuse me? Do you think I would create an alias to say things
> I have no problem saying as Roy Briggs? Here, here's a Roy Briggs
> post, Tom:
>
> Arnii lied about his kid dying. Arnii fucks corpses. If his kid
> really did die, I'm sure he'd fuck him, cut him up into bits,
> and then put him in the freezer next to the babies he's stolen.
> He comes in Doug's green hair while they watch snuff movies.
>
> OK? You still think I need an alias?
Oh, no! You have waaaay too much to be proud of here!
BTW, it's not Arny. My friend's name is Butch, it should read " face",
my hair is not green, although it is often sticky;-), and we prefer old
Julie Andrews flicks.
All in all, some pretty good guesses, though, at least about me!
I'd better go now. For some reason, it's uncomfortable sitting down just
now...;-)
Say, on another topic, why does George hate anonymous posters so much,
but like you "Roy"?
Oh, and do I make you 'orny?;-)
Doug
Roger Williams
> As I said in my original post re. aliases and who *really* owns them, I've yet
> to see any credible evidence re. *anybody* who regularly posts here using an
> alias. Lots of speculation (as, e.g. with Zip), which is entertaining and
> sometimes funny, but no real evidence.
*smirk*
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From: "Steve Zipser (Sunshine Stereo)" <z...@sunshinestereo.com>
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From: ro...@transvestborg.blowme (Senor Wences)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion
Subject: Re: Rude treatment from Roger Transvestborg
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:23:00 -0400
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Arny Krüger
Tom Albertz wrote in message
<36276A71...@notreally.com>...
>
>Here's my theory, Roy. If this stuff doesn't bother Arny,
then
>it only serves to make you look bad.
I just consider the source. On many occasions, I've tried to
engage Roy in discussion of audio topics. This seems to be
as close as he can come. Roy likes to whine about personal
attacks around here, but leave him to himself, and he shows
that when harsher and more perverted personal attacks are
made, he'll be the one.
>If it does bother him, which
>I have to believe it does - and I also believe YOU believe
it does;
>then it is the most unfair, hurtful, hateful, vengeful,
UNFAIR
>use of information that this newsgroup has ever seen.
Well, what about the poor newbies that come here for audio
advice and find chapter 4878 of Roy's rather obviously
fevered and demented mind laid out bare like this?
>I don't think if you lost a son that you would tell us.
Reading between the lines, I think Roy has lost somebody
near and dear. This might just be one way he copes.
>I think Arny did because he had some trust in this
community.
The community at large, trust it? Hardly. However there are
quite a few individuals in it who are obviously quite
trustworthy. I got about 300 seemingly genuine expressions
of sympathy via Email, and they helped with the grief. I
really appreciated them.
>If we became aware
>of such a loss to you, I'm sure NO ONE would do this to
you.
Mmmm, I think the Midbot and Loopy might be up to it, more
the former and less the latter.
>Don't take this as any kind of approval for Arny or any of
his behavior.
My behavior around here is conditioned on established norms
for behavior around here. I frequently participate in about
a half-dozen NG's, one moderated, and only in RAO could
posts like the above happen.
>It's only a comment on yours. It disappoints me that
>you go there. It's impossible for me to ignore this
behavior
>and impossible for me to respect you for having behaved
this
>way. I suspect my comments will have as much affect on you
>(other than to piss you off) as my comments to Arny do on
him.
Look man, I regret what it takes to survive in this place,
but survive I have and will continue to do.
>I'm sure I'm going right into the target group with Leslie
and
>Doug now. Fine. I happen to think they're right and
you're
>wrong. I'm also sure they have a lot more respect from
normal
>people than you and George do.
It is pretty arguable that the Midbot and his foulmouthed
limey buddy are working hard to set a new low in standards
for reprehensible behaviour around here.
Arny Krüger
The Devil wrote in message
>
>Well, I think Arnii invented the entire thing.
Including the Death notice I referenced?
Not only are you setting new lows for reprehensible behavior
around here, you are setting new highs for disregard of
established, neutral sources of factual information.
Arny Krüger
Roger Williams wrote in message
<7094lo$2...@enews3.newsguy.com>...
So how do you distinguish between posts coming from two
different subscribers to AT&T "Worldnet"? I figure there has
to be a few 100,000 of them, at least.
Unless you've got some additional tricks for separating the
wheat from the chaff, anybody who wanted to could subscribe
to AT&T Worldnet and fool many into thinking that his posts
are coming from Zip.
Arny Krüger
Brian Leupp wrote in message
<3627AE...@ix.netcom.com>...
>
>Are you suggesting that the stench of his own hypocrisy
should somehow
>*bother* Arny? Well, it never has, and I'm guessing he
rather enjoys it.
>It would certainly bother an ethical man, however.
>
When standing next to you, my stench is overcome by
something stronger - your's.
The Devil
>BTW, it's not Arny. My friend's name is Butch, it should read
>" face", my hair is not green, although it is often sticky;-), and
>we prefer old Julie Andrews flicks.
Well, I'd like to say I believe you, but now Arnii's hand's up
your poop-chute operating the pullcords that make your brain
work, we'll have to assume that you're lying at least 95% of
the time. Incidentally, how do you tend all that hair on your
hands?
>I'd better go now. For some reason, it's uncomfortable sitting
>down just now...;-)
After the pictures we've seen of Arnii, I sympathise with you,
Grub.
>Oh, and do I make you 'orny?;-)
The pictures you sent me weren't bad. Maybe next time if
you kept your clothes on and put a bag over your face.
Have fun. Remember, cucumbers are for salads, cocks
are for hip ballads. Love to Arnii. ;-)
George M. Middius
>>Well, I think Arnii invented the entire thing.
>Including the Death notice I referenced?
The Master of Computer Wizardry has Death on its mind.
>Not only are you setting new lows for reprehensible behavior
>around here, you are setting new highs for disregard of
>established, neutral sources of factual information.
Congratulations, Roy. Arnii is afraid you're going to
steal the spotlight from him.
George M. Middius
language abuse.
>When standing next to you, my stench is overcome by
>something stronger - your's.
Vengeful one, please take note that there's no such
word in English as "your's". I think I'm beginning to
see a pattern in your torture of English, BTW. The more
embarrassed you get, the more butchery you commit. In
this thread, Brian has battered you into a quiverling
puddle of pudding, and sure enough, out come the
tortured abuses of common words.
You're getting predictable, Arnii. Maybe Powell was
right to call you Sad Sack.
Surfshop
> >From: ro...@transvestborg.blowme (Senor Wences)
> >Message-ID: <6pc15b$q...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
Don't these originate from 2 different ATT hosts?
Stewart Pinkerton
>"Arny Krüger" wrote:
>
>> HiFiCheech wrote in message
>
>I think this puta is either George or Roy. It's just as
>disgusting, and its Spanish is less than convincing.
Briggs posts from the UK.
Roger Williams
Check the IP block both those hosts come from. Big coincidence, eh? Oh,
and then there was this:
From: "Steve Zipser (Sunshine Stereo)" <zip>From:
Subject: Re: Let me get this straight
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:27:34 -0400
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From: ro...@transvestborg.blowme (Senor Wences)
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Subject: Re: Rude treatment from Roger Transvestborg
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Zippy's biggest fuck up - posting from the same dial up connection, and
having the NNTP posting host verifying the same dynamically assigned ID -
within 4 minutes of himself.
If there is only one thing to be learned from the tay sach-ish antics
of Steebie Zipser, it's that creating sock puppets on usenet is not a game
for idiots.
<insert Zip's howling that anyone from AT&T would dial into the Dade
County POP 4 minutes after the first post, get assigned the exact same IP
out of 3 class C's assigned to the POP, and post a defense of Zippy in
Zippy's exact style at 3:20 in the morning. Sure. That's pretty plausible.>
Roger Williams
> So how do you distinguish between posts coming from two
> different subscribers to AT&T "Worldnet"? I figure there has
> to be a few 100,000 of them, at least.
Sure. They all have IP addresses assigned from the class C's allocated
to Worldnet's Dade County POP, too. And they all post frantic, poorly
spelled homolaming defenses of Steve Zipser within minutes of Zippy being
flamed. I mean, after all, Worldnet has *thousands* of subscribers, and
surely it's some shadowy figure out to besmirch Zippy the pindick's good
name <smirk>.
Willing suspension of disbelief, thy name is Kruger.
> Unless you've got some additional tricks for separating the
> wheat from the chaff, anybody who wanted to could subscribe
> to AT&T Worldnet and fool many into thinking that his posts
> are coming from Zip.
Yeah, it's a conspiracy organized by the gnomes of Zurich. The
conspiracy is so deep, even the Worldnet abuse desk is in on it. Those
Judases!
Here's a hint, Arny - learn how to use nslookup. It also helps to work
for a company that treats Worldnet like it's bitch, and having the
personal leverage to make the Worldnet abuse desk give up Zippy like a rat
fleeing a sinking ship. Heh heh.
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"Richard Yoon-Yoon chomped his bamboo shoots and
whined: ..."
"Hive-pocrisy that is the lifeblood of all the
squinty-eyed hobbits who scurry about the Hive"
"Nor, it seems, did Yoon-Yoon the giant
pandaborg even read that post."
The Middibot talks about his distaste for Asians in Message-ID:
<361c0ec3....@news.erols.com>
"Sausage on a bamboo-leaf roll for you?"
Middibot's desperate, yet futile, attempt to get laid in
<35cf7247...@news.erols.com>
KevinLng
not answer my question about you lying but that is okay too. I am sorry about
your son and I am sorry you have to tell lies but I am sure you have your
reason for doing this. Well I guess it makes you feel better if you do this and
just like it said in the book I told everyone about about the Sociopath it
makes you feel important. I dont like to say this because I like to like every
body but I do not like you if all that is true and you are not worth it for me
to like. I showed this to my own father and all and he agrees with me about
you. If I am going to study pre-med and do research some day I hope I can be
honest about things. In the book about the Sociopath it said that the reason
the Sociopath can do the bad things they do and not have it bother them is
because they do not have a conscience but I do. So that is why I will not say
what I am starting to think of you even though you can guess because you are
not stupid except when it comes to telling the truth. I belieive in Heaven and
I hope your son can not see what a big liar you are because then he would not
rest in peace and I hope God does not let what you do on Earth effect what he
does with your son because that would not be fair to your son and God is fair.
So goodbye.
Kevin Laing
George M. Middius
>Well okay Mr Kruger I see that you do not want to talk to me because you did
>not answer my question about you lying but that is okay too.
[snip]
>So goodbye.
Now you've done it, Arnii. Still have any delusions about
getting into Heaven?
Arny Krüger
KevinLng wrote in message
<19981017114357...@ng-fd2.aol.com>...
>Well okay Mr Kruger I see that you do not want to talk to
me because you did
>not answer my question about you lying but that is okay
too.
I gave you the best answer I could - basically what in the
world are you talking about?
KevinLng
>world are you talking about?
Well no Mr kruger you did not really because you asked me how I knew you lied
and I told you and then you just said nothing. I do not know how to find out
what I wrote befor to read it again but I think there is a way you can find it
because people do it even though I do not know how. It did not take me a very
long time to feel okay when I was seven and figured out about Santa Claus and
it did not take me to much time to figure out that liking science does not mean
a person is honest when he is not beinng a scientist so it is okay. Even though
I think people should not make a mess just to get attention like I think you do
all the time. My father taught me that if you give people a chance they will be
nice because the only reason they are not nice is that they are afraid or
angry. I hope he is right because I will give you a lot of chances.
Kevin Laing
Brian Leupp
> If there is only one thing to be learned from the tay sach-ish antics
> of Steebie Zipser, it's that creating sock puppets on usenet is not a game
> for idiots.
Y'know, Rog-- posts like this (and your liberal sprinkling of "h"s in
ones having to do with Greg Singh) just might lead one to conclude
you're an unrepentant racist bastard... unless, of course, they'd seen
your posts identifying yourself as mortal enemy to the Dark Knight of
Racism, and Champion of Equality.
Then they'd know better.
Brian
Brian Leupp
>
> Brian Leupp wrote in message
> <3627AE...@ix.netcom.com>...
>
> >
> >Are you suggesting that the stench of his own hypocrisy
> should somehow
> >*bother* Arny? Well, it never has, and I'm guessing he
> rather enjoys it.
> >It would certainly bother an ethical man, however.
> >
>
> something stronger - your's.
You might want to try just a *little* creative thinking when you attempt
to flame someone, and leave the snappy comebacks from "Highlights"
to JB.
Brian
Arny Krüger
KevinLng wrote in message <19981017151902...@ng127.aol.com>...
>>I gave you the best answer I could - basically what in the
>>world are you talking about?
>
>Well no Mr kruger you did not really because you asked me how I knew you lied
>and I told you and then you just said nothing.
I see no evidence that you replied to that request. Please reply again.
George M. Middius
of a child.
>>>I gave you the best answer I could - basically what in the
>>>world are you talking about?
>>Well no Mr kruger you did not really because you asked me how I knew you lied
>>and I told you and then you just said nothing.
>I see no evidence that you replied to that request. Please reply again.
Poor Arnii. DejaNews is good enough for your victims, but
it's much too complex for you to wrestle with. Here, let me
help:
http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=401876112
Now, of course, you'll say there's no such article at that
URL. OK, here's the text:
================= Begin Quoted Text ================-
>How do you know it was a lie?
Well I think it was a lie even if you did not really truly
say it is a lie because you sound like President Clinton
trying to say that oral sex is not really sex. You said
George got caught doing something wrong and then you said
that you did not catch him but maybe somebody else could
catch him even if you cant and that does not sound honest to
me. I hope this is not confusing.
================== End Quoted Text =================
The adults give you more credit than children do, it seems.
Kevin, I hope you have a heavy-duty snot deflector ready.
You're about to be accused of deficiency in reading
comprehension skill, of twisting the cyborg's words, and of
all kinds of lying.
George M. Middius
Remove "jiffy" to reply
What is the Krooborg's agenda on RAO?
"IMO, these guys started out way worse than me, and just
went downhill given the chance. For one thing, they don't
know the applicable laws of nature and how to apply them."
There you have it.
Gruvmyster
> Now you've done it, Arnii. Still have any delusions about
> getting into Heaven?
Who's this Laing guy, George? Your answer to Jim Cate?
Doug
KevinLng
>
>
This is very cool because my friend Bob who is here now just showed me how to
find myself on dejanews!!!! This is great!!!! I feel like a real writer!!! This
is what I said in case you did not read it
>Well I think it was a lie even if you did not really truly say it isa lie
because you sound like President Clinton trying to say that oral sex is not
really sex. You said George got caught doing something wrong and then you said
that you did not catch him but maybe somebody else could catch him even if you
did not and that does not sound honest to me. I >hope this is not confusing.
There okay? In case you did not see it that is a quote from myself that Bob
showed me how to edit-copy-paste here. You said George was making belieive he
was other people and that he was caught and then you said that well maybe he
was doing that even though you did not catch him and are not so sure and can
not prove it. That does sound like you told a lie and he even was going to bet
you a lot of money that it was a lie and you chickened out so we know it was a
lie. Everybody would make a bet they know they would win if they were telling
the truth. You also said that you do not have money now because you had to pay
for your sons funeral. I am so so so so sorry again. I hope it is okay to ask
this but how much does a funeral cost? I hope my father never has to pay for
one for me. I only hope I have to pay for one for him even though it would feel
terrible that is how it is supposed to be unless God says different. I am so
sorry your son could not pay for your funeral instead of the other way around.
That did not come out like I meant but I know you know what I mean. I hope. Bye
for now.
Kevin Laing
Surfshop
> This is great!!!! I feel like a real writer!!!
You're not a real writer. You're not even a real person.
You're some asshole trying to be cute. If Cheech were real,
you'd be him. You're likely another obscure audiophile that
got a hardon for Arny.
Roger Williams
Sure, *if* one were a complete idiot. I think you pass the first test
with no problems, cupcake.
*smirk* It's just *so racist* ... and unfair! It's sort of like how
Ghregghy whailed when someone said "kirpan" to him, eh Sleurpp? Oh, the
shame... the shame...
Of course, then there was this (which I don't recall Brian Sleurpp
commenting on....):
"Richard Yoon-Yoon chomped his bamboo shoots and
whined: ..."
"Hive-pocrisy that is the lifeblood of all the
squinty-eyed hobbits who scurry about the Hive"
"Nor, it seems, did Yoon-Yoon the giant
pandaborg even read that post."
The Middibot talks about his distaste for Asians in Message-ID:
<361c0ec3....@news.erols.com>
"Sausage on a bamboo-leaf roll for you?"
Middibot's desperate, yet futile, attempt to get laid in
<35cf7247...@news.erols.com>
"Squinty-eyed"... does that pass the Sleurp racism test? Does this make
him cry like superfluous "h"'s?
Nah. *Everyone* knows that Brian isn't a little eunuch that runs
around screaming "racist!" at anything that flames his retarded friends on
RAO, right? They could read this, for example.
> Then they'd know better.
Exactly.
Your autoflame grade: A
Thanks for playing, Sleurppie.
Gruvmyster
> KevinLng wrote:
> > This is great!!!! I feel like a real writer!!!
>
> You're not a real writer.
Well, not a real good one...
> You're not even a real person.
> You're some asshole trying to be cute.
And failing.
> If Cheech were real,
> you'd be him. You're likely another obscure audiophile that
> got a hardon for Arny.
Maybe that's where the "sausage" thing comes from. They all want
Arny and project their homosexual images on others.;-)
Doug
Brian Leupp
> Also spracht Brian Leupp <hea...@ix.netcom.com>:
>
> > Roger Williams wrote:
> >
> > > If there is only one thing to be learned from the tay sach-ish antics
> > > of Steebie Zipser, it's that creating sock puppets on usenet is not a game
> > > for idiots.
>
> > Y'know, Rog-- posts like this (and your liberal sprinkling of "h"s in
> > ones having to do with Greg Singh) just might lead one to conclude
> > you're an unrepentant racist bastard... unless, of course, they'd seen
> > your posts identifying yourself as mortal enemy to the Dark Knight of
> > Racism, and Champion of Equality.
>
> Sure, *if* one were a complete idiot. I think you pass the first test
> with no problems, cupcake.
> *smirk* It's just *so racist* ... and unfair! It's sort of like how
> Ghregghy whailed when someone said "kirpan" to him, eh Sleurpp? Oh, the
> shame... the shame...
Oh, this *is* precious! A communication-constipated waste like *Krueger*
is better at the manly art of playground name-calling than professional
f-lame Roger Williams! Wait'll the boys on alt.flame get a load of-- oh,
but wait! You didn't crosspost *this* one to alt.flame! Why, Roggie? Not
one of your better efforts? Think you can handle it yourself? Keep your
Secret Club Decoder and Danger Whistle, handy, just in case.........
The shame is that you couldn't do any better than "Sleurpp", and with so
much to work! My, I remember in third grade there were some variations
that you would no doubt find clever in the extreme, given that you've
seen fit to go public with this one! "Sleurpp"! Oh, it's ...it's just
*magic*! How do you do it?
> Of course, then there was this (which I don't recall Brian Sleurpp
> commenting on....):
>
> "Richard Yoon-Yoon chomped his bamboo shoots and
> whined: ..."
>
> "Hive-pocrisy that is the lifeblood of all the
> squinty-eyed hobbits who scurry about the Hive"
>
> "Nor, it seems, did Yoon-Yoon the giant
> pandaborg even read that post."
>
> The Middibot talks about his distaste for Asians in Message-ID:
> <361c0ec3....@news.erols.com>
>
> "Sausage on a bamboo-leaf roll for you?"
>
> Middibot's desperate, yet futile, attempt to get laid in
> <35cf7247...@news.erols.com>
>
> "Squinty-eyed"... does that pass the Sleurp racism test? Does this make
> him cry like superfluous "h"'s?
So you were just trying to emulate George? Why didn't you *say* so, Rog?
I guess you feel I'm only allowed to point out your racism if I've first
rooted out all the other examples on Usenet-- is that the rule on
alt.flame.niggers, your other playground? I'm not up to speed on racist
convention, Rog-- why not sit awhile, bus' open a bag o' pork rinds,
fire up a few "coons", and tell us about it?
Brian
Surfshop
>
> Well I do not really know either of you and I do not have a hard on for Mr
> Kruger because I am not gay and it makes me hurt and angry that you say that.
> It does not sound like you like me very much ...
AAwww... this is so sad. Doug - maybe we made a mistake.
I think this kid is real.
KevinLng
Well I do not really know either of you and I do not have a hard on for Mr
Kruger because I am not gay and it makes me hurt and angry that you say that.
What are you really talking about since I dont know you or never wrote to you?
It does not sound like you like me very much and if I did some thing you do not
like well I am sorry I guess but I do not know what I did to you or why you
wrote that about me.
Kevin Laing
George M. Middius
Greasetrap, RAO's sometime muckracker and full-time
"professional flamer." ;-)
>I guess you feel I'm only allowed to point out your racism if I've first
>rooted out all the other examples on Usenet-- is that the rule on
>alt.flame.niggers, your other playground? I'm not up to speed on racist
>convention, Rog-- why not sit awhile, bus' open a bag o' pork rinds,
>fire up a few "coons", and tell us about it?
Holy octaroons, Brian. Look what Shitstorm has been up
to on that peculiar newsgroup.
>WHINING TITTYFUCKING THREE-LEGGED SHIT-EATING ONE-NUTTED PEDERASTIC
>SPERM-GUZZLING 5-LINE-SIG-POSTING TRANSVESTITE SYPHLITIC NECROPHILIAC
>LUTEFISK LOVIN' NETKKKOP WITH CRABS THAT HAVE THE CLAP
How did they ever get a newsgroup called
"alt.flame.niggers" off the ground? Shitstorm, can you
explain it?
>So, this morning's edition of "The Boston Globe" claims that
>Glenn Webb fucks babies. It looks like that confirms that!
Marvelous insight. What else have you learned?
>SHEEP FUCKER!
Indeed. Are you proud of your participation in this
illustrious newsgroup?
> ROFL! Ok, Biilbert, now you've gone and shot yourself in the foot. Pay
>attention to the cretins who are AFN regulars, thumping themselves on the
>chest bellowing about what good "Christians" they are, and how black folks
>are the object of "God" and "Christ's" scorn, etc. However, you seem to
>think that ream after ream of feline ASCII art is "christian". Tapdancing
>mother of God, Biilbert... ever since your lobotomy, you've been a cryptic
>little sod.
I guess you had to be there.
George M. Middius
>>Maybe that's where the "sausage" thing comes from. They all want
>>Arny and project their homosexual images on others.;-)
>>Haugenblick
>Well I do not really know either of you and I do not have a hard on for Mr
>Kruger because I am not gay and it makes me hurt and angry that you say that.
>What are you really talking about since I dont know you or never wrote to you?
>It does not sound like you like me very much and if I did some thing you do not
>like well I am sorry I guess but I do not know what I did to you or why you
>wrote that about me.
You wouldn't know this, Kevin, but Haugenblick has
recently lost his mind. That's why he's taken up
mimicking the Vile Krooborg's willful denials of
reality.
As Haugenblick well knows, the Sausage (a metaphor for
the insistent chest-thumping of the Hivies) was
realized graphically by the resplendently normal guy,
Sir Roy Briggs. He was fortunate in obtaining a
clandestine photograph of Arnii in an excited state,
about to embark on a journey into night ;-) , and he
scanned the picture of Arnii's huge and potent borghood
for the benefit of all of RAO. Unfortunately, DejaNews
does not archive binary attachments, so the picture is
not readily accessible. Unless Sir Roy would be kind
enough to post it again, that is.....
Roger Williams
> The shame is that you couldn't do any better than "Sleurpp", and with so
> much to work! My, I remember in third grade there were some variations
> that you would no doubt find clever in the extreme, given that you've
> seen fit to go public with this one! "Sleurpp"!
Poor baby. I really *didn't* mean to open up old wounds like that. I
had no idea you bore such deep psychological scars from ... the third
grade. Would Brucie Richman be able to help you out with this?
> Oh, it's ...it's just *magic*! How do you do it?
It's easy. I have a never ending supply of flammable dingbats that
chomp on even the slightest of trolls hook, line, and sinker. Open wide,
giggles, daddy's got a ripe one for ya.
> > Of course, then there was this (which I don't recall Brian Sleurpp
> > commenting on....):
> >
> > "Richard Yoon-Yoon chomped his bamboo shoots and
> > whined: ..."
> >
> > "Hive-pocrisy that is the lifeblood of all the
> > squinty-eyed hobbits who scurry about the Hive"
> >
> > "Nor, it seems, did Yoon-Yoon the giant
> > pandaborg even read that post."
> >
> > The Middibot talks about his distaste for Asians in Message-ID:
> > <361c0ec3....@news.erols.com>
> >
> > "Sausage on a bamboo-leaf roll for you?"
> >
> > Middibot's desperate, yet futile, attempt to get laid in
> > <35cf7247...@news.erols.com>
> >
> > "Squinty-eyed"... does that pass the Sleurp racism test? Does this make
> > him cry like superfluous "h"'s?
> So you were just trying to emulate George? Why didn't you *say* so, Rog?
"George" *is* an emulator, Sleurpp. How does it feel to be in awestruck
worship of my runaway perl script, Sleurppsie? Did you consider proposing
marriage to it (like Sihngghy did via e-mail) too?
> I guess you feel I'm only allowed to point out your racism if I've first
> rooted out all the other examples on Usenet-- is that the rule on
> alt.flame.niggers, your other playground?
Egads, what a buffoon. Go on, chuckles, repost anything I've posted to
"alt.flame.niggers". "Expose" away. Whoops, what's that? You noticed
*who* I've flamed in alt.flame.niggers (the magic of DejaNews!)? Will you
be fleeing from this gambit now, or later, my little simpleton?
> I'm not up to speed on racist
> convention, Rog-- why not sit awhile, bus' open a bag o' pork rinds,
> fire up a few "coons", and tell us about it?
Sounds like you've been in Middibot country too long, Sleurppsie. You
know, even if you *had* a tiny amount of wit, courage and creativity,
you'd still be a piss poor excuse for a flamer (which is tragic news, no
doubt, given the incredible amount of time you think you spend flaming on
RAO). Go on, Sleurppy, open up both barrels and flame me into oblivion.
Expose my evil to the daylight, etc. etc. You could *even* read about the
alt.flame/alt.fan.karl-malden.nose invasion of alt.flame.niggers at:
http://www.protong.org/El_Brujo/afn/timeline.html
I predict that'll you'll do much howling and screaming before slinking
off like the emasculated little puppy you are, until the next time your
ass tingles for the abuse it so dearly craves. "Brian Leupps" are a dime
for two dozen an alt.flame, after all.
And be sure to wake me up when you're done. Or will you be mailing me
for help to flame me, like you used to mail me for help flaming other
people? <snicker>
> The Combustible Queen Of The RAO Prom
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"I almost 'felched' for it...."
"Commander" Sandman of the Klueless Kops seeks an oral workout in
message-ID: <6pqctq$cml$4...@news-1.news.gte.net>
Jason C. Cotton
<snip>
> Here's a hint, Arny - learn how to use nslookup. It also helps to work
>for a company that treats Worldnet like it's bitch, and having the
>personal leverage to make the Worldnet abuse desk give up Zippy like a rat
>fleeing a sinking ship. Heh heh.
Hey, Woge, speaking of "personal leverage", I think Cap'n Hoggy alluded
to an opening at the next Hive circle jerk. I'm sure they'd love to have
you. Don't let it get out of hand, or the good Cap'n might have to
give you a dishonorable discharge. ;-)
-Jason
Roger Williams
> Brian Leupp discovers the true nature of Shitstorm
> Greasetrap, RAO's sometime muckracker and full-time
> "professional flamer." ;-)
More like, "Roger finds out evolution hasn't gifted Brian with balls, a
spine, or even a brain since his last visit to RAO".
> >I guess you feel I'm only allowed to point out your racism if I've first
> >rooted out all the other examples on Usenet-- is that the rule on
> >alt.flame.niggers, your other playground? I'm not up to speed on racist
> >convention, Rog-- why not sit awhile, bus' open a bag o' pork rinds,
> >fire up a few "coons", and tell us about it?
> Holy octaroons, Brian. Look what Shitstorm has been up
> to on that peculiar newsgroup.
Why, my Middibot has learned to cascade <happy cheering>!
> >WHINING TITTYFUCKING THREE-LEGGED SHIT-EATING ONE-NUTTED PEDERASTIC
> >SPERM-GUZZLING 5-LINE-SIG-POSTING TRANSVESTITE SYPHLITIC NECROPHILIAC
> >LUTEFISK LOVIN' NETKKKOP WITH CRABS THAT HAVE THE CLAP
WHINING TITTYFUCKING THREE-LEGGED SHIT-EATING ONE-NUTTED PEDERASTIC
SPERM-GUZZLING 5-LINE-SIG-POSTING TRANSVESTITE SYPHILITIC NECROPHILIAC
LUTEFISK LOVIN' NETKKKOP WITH CRABS THAT HAVE THE CLAP AND AN URGE TO USE
MIDDIUS LIKE A JAILHOUSE GIRLFRIEND
> How did they ever get a newsgroup called
> "alt.flame.niggers" off the ground? Shitstorm, can you
> explain it?
What?! After all the work I put into your code trying to make you a
usenet expert?
"I believe every news client will
show you the header of a message that resides on
your ISP's server, but it is true and verifiable
that DejaNews, the archive service, does not store
that info."
DejaStupidity from the Middibot in message <36121453...@news.erols.com>
There are two prevalent theories on the creation of alt.flame.niggers:
1) It was created by the goofy racist Dimas "Big Daddy Zues" Nava and
the (then nascent) "Hells Flame Wars" organization
2) It was created by a bored sadist who wanted genuine racist idiots like
Nava WonderWoman!, and Zorbo to stumble into it. Sort of like how I
created you, my little bot.
> >So, this morning's edition of "The Boston Globe" claims that
> >Glenn Webb fucks babies. It looks like that confirms that!
> Marvelous insight. What else have you learned?
I learned that Glenn Webb *does indeed* fuck babies. And he has even
less of a sense of humor than all of RAO combined (oh, the *horror*) ...
And what's your role in all this, Middibot?
> SHEEP FUCKER!
Serves me right for even asking.
> Indeed. Are you proud of your participation in this
> illustrious newsgroup?
Quite. It's fun to flame KKKlansmen, white supremecists, and
ovisexuals. Why do you think I've stayed in RAO so long?
> > ROFL! Ok, Biilbert, now you've gone and shot yourself in the foot. Pay
> >attention to the cretins who are AFN regulars, thumping themselves on the
> >chest bellowing about what good "Christians" they are, and how black folks
> >are the object of "God" and "Christ's" scorn, etc. However, you seem to
> >think that ream after ream of feline ASCII art is "christian". Tapdancing
> >mother of God, Biilbert... ever since your lobotomy, you've been a cryptic
> >little sod.
So can I infer by the inclusion of this, that *you* think that black
people are cursed by "God" too? Man, Lester Maddox, meet George
Middibot. Poor confused little robot. What was it like when you realized
that you're not even bright enough to defend yourself in even the simplest
of usenet flame wars?
> I guess you had to be there.
I guess!
> George M. Middius
> Collecing spam at glan...@erols.com
Barry Debonair
Is this another one of Fatass Nambla's morphs?
Roger Williams
> Roger Williams <rog...@shell1.tiac.net> writes:
> <snip>
Cottonballs! It's so nice to see you again! I thought you had fled
forever after finding out that the "Middius" you swore undying allegiance
to was nothing but a runaway perl script. I mean, that, and the bottoming
out of the VMS device driver market in Sri Lanka and all, it's been a
really *bad* month for you. So Cottonballs, how is that you're so up on
this whole "circle jerk" thing? Is this why you're suddenly in such a
chipper mood in light of your woes?
Trotsky
<rog...@shell1.tiac.net> wrote:
> > Collecing spam at glan...@erols.com
>
> --
Hey Parrot-man, can't you somehow work these witticisms in with your
diatribes about minidiscs? That way we can keep all the bullshit in the
same pile. Just a suggestion.
--
Archimedes and his orchestra
who loudly disapproved of life
got mad when I called them unmusical
and tried to land me with a wife.
Out in San Francisco's wonderland
the purple poet kneels to pray
but I just hang around your city and
I don't have anything to say
on this beleeka doodle day.
Al Stewart--"Beleeka Doodle Day" p.1967
Greg M. Singh
gsi...@mc.net
Roger Williams
> Is this another one of Fatass Nambla's morphs?
Nope. This was my attempt to unleash a 'bot on rec.audio.opinion, much
like the "Gilbert T. Sullivan.-AnaLFacE" 'bot on alt.evil and AAVFFF.
Unfortunately, I didn't know I'd do such a brilliant job at programming
it, and now it thinks that it's gained sentience. At least it's (slowly)
learning to cascade.
Arny Krüger
KevinLng wrote in message <19981017182303...@ng151.aol.com>...
>>I see no evidence that you replied to that request. Please reply again.
>>
>>
>
>This is very cool because my friend Bob who is here now just showed me how to
While you are revelling in that, remember that posts circulate in Usenet in a
more-or-less random fashion, and the elapsed time between you posting
something, and me seeing it on my ISP's NG server (If at all!) is nothing like
a thing that can be predicted with precision.
>This is what I said in case you did not read it
>
>>Well I think it was a lie even if you did not really truly say it isa lie
>because you sound like President Clinton trying to say that oral sex is not
>really sex.
Think what you will.
There is more than a little comparison to Clintonian ethics in this situation
because the basic thing that Clinton did, being get a blow job from a girl
above the legal age of consent, is not causing him nearly as amny problems as
his efforts to cover it up.
The basic thing that George is accused of, being posting to RAO using multiple
accounts, is not, in itself a bad thing at all. In fact, many people do it
quite reasonably, such as those who have Email accounts at work where they can
post, and use a different account to post from at home. There is nothing wrong
with doing this in and of itself.
One way that using multiple email accounts can be a problem is if it is used
in an attempt to create a false impression or deceive.
>You said George got caught doing something wrong and then you said
>that you did not catch him but maybe somebody else could catch him even if
you
>did not and that does not sound honest to me.
That is one possible interpretaion, one that a person who does not know
George's history on RAO might think up. However, its not the only possible
one, and it's not the one that fits with the rest of actual history.
What I said is that Middius was caught on the web posting with multiple email
addresses, and this has happened in the past. By caught, I mean that someone
presented convincing evidence that Middius did such a thing.
Arny Krüger
George M. Middius wrote in message <36b3785e....@news.erols.com>...
>
>As Haugenblick well knows, the Sausage (a metaphor for
>the insistent chest-thumping of the Hivies) was
>realized graphically by the resplendently normal guy,
>Sir Roy Briggs. He was fortunate in obtaining a
>clandestine photograph of Arnii in an excited state,
>about to embark on a journey into night ;-) , and he
>scanned the picture of Arnii's huge and potent borghood
>for the benefit of all of RAO. Unfortunately, DejaNews
>does not archive binary attachments, so the picture is
>not readily accessible. Unless Sir Roy would be kind
>enough to post it again, that is.....
And this would be a fine case of creating a false impression.
Obviously, it never happened, any more than did my wife give a blow job in
public, another event that Briggs claimed he provided photographic evidence
of.
In fact, the picture Briggs provided did show a woman biting what very much
appeared to be a sausage, as in the kind of thing you buy in a food store.
And what this has to do with audio momentarily escapes me, no doubt due to my
advancing dementia. ;-)