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Ed Stasiak
Nov 11, 2012, 11:36:17 PM11/11/12
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When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
Hershel's Farm.
Was this supposed to mean something?
to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
Hershel's Farm.
Was this supposed to mean something?
Robin Miller
Nov 12, 2012, 1:04:50 AM11/12/12
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at. That's an interesting theory.
--Robin
Ubiquitous
Nov 12, 2012, 5:48:10 AM11/12/12
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Wow, what a way to end an ep! I suspect that phone call is going to turn
out to be hallucinatory and from Lori.
The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he
seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why
he was so super interested in how Michonne tamed hers a few weeks ago.
Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea about the caged
walkers she discovered and subsequently destroyed while she was snooping
around? I would think that would immediately convince Anfrea, given what
happened with the contents of Hershell's barn last season. I really hate
when people don't discuss things they have seen, a la [i]Lost[/i]!
Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little
girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The
Shining.
Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
until I was watching "[i]The Talking Dead[/i]" and the director
explained that it was sppsd to be a walker who had feasted on Lori's
remains to the point of immobility. I have problems with that, but I'll
go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the walker games? He
told Andrea they do it every week using toothless walkers but he made
this big announcement about them celebrating their anniversary. Hmmm...
Did those walkers look toothless to you? What about their
claws/fingernails?
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
shawn
Nov 12, 2012, 7:16:30 AM11/12/12
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to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea. That's another sign
that something isn't quite right in this Village.
shawn
Nov 12, 2012, 7:21:33 AM11/12/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:48:10 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:
>esta...@att.net wrote:
>
>>When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>>to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>>seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>>to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>>Hershel's Farm.
>>
>>Was this supposed to mean something?
>
>Besides The Governor took Andrea's weapons?
>
>Wow, what a way to end an ep! I suspect that phone call is going to turn
>out to be hallucinatory and from Lori.
>
>The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he
>seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why
>he was so super interested in how Michonne tamed hers a few weeks ago.
>
>Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea about the caged
>walkers she discovered and subsequently destroyed while she was snooping
>around? I would think that would immediately convince Anfrea, given what
>happened with the contents of Hershell's barn last season. I really hate
>when people don't discuss things they have seen, a la [i]Lost[/i]!
>Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little
>girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The
>Shining.
Yes, I could see Andrea still wanting to stay in the Village, but why
wouldn't Michone go over the things that she's seen that have put her
nerves on edge? It doesn't make sense.
>Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
I'm assuming that's supposed to help serve as bite protection.
>I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
>until I was watching "[i]The Talking Dead[/i]" and the director
>explained that it was sppsd to be a walker who had feasted on Lori's
>remains to the point of immobility. I have problems with that, but I'll
>go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
more.
>I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the walker games? He
>told Andrea they do it every week using toothless walkers but he made
>this big announcement about them celebrating their anniversary. Hmmm...
>Did those walkers look toothless to you? What about their
>claws/fingernails?
They did look toothless (though only because of CGI so their mouths
didn't look completely right) but there is a real danger in getting
cut by their hands. We know that can lead to infections and death. As
for the games I could see them having a game every week without having
the all day party.
wrote:
>esta...@att.net wrote:
>
>>When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>>to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>>seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>>to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>>Hershel's Farm.
>>
>>Was this supposed to mean something?
>
>Besides The Governor took Andrea's weapons?
>
>Wow, what a way to end an ep! I suspect that phone call is going to turn
>out to be hallucinatory and from Lori.
>
>The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he
>seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why
>he was so super interested in how Michonne tamed hers a few weeks ago.
>
>Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea about the caged
>walkers she discovered and subsequently destroyed while she was snooping
>around? I would think that would immediately convince Anfrea, given what
>happened with the contents of Hershell's barn last season. I really hate
>when people don't discuss things they have seen, a la [i]Lost[/i]!
>Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little
>girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The
>Shining.
wouldn't Michone go over the things that she's seen that have put her
nerves on edge? It doesn't make sense.
>Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
>I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
>until I was watching "[i]The Talking Dead[/i]" and the director
>explained that it was sppsd to be a walker who had feasted on Lori's
>remains to the point of immobility. I have problems with that, but I'll
>go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
more.
>I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the walker games? He
>told Andrea they do it every week using toothless walkers but he made
>this big announcement about them celebrating their anniversary. Hmmm...
>Did those walkers look toothless to you? What about their
>claws/fingernails?
didn't look completely right) but there is a real danger in getting
cut by their hands. We know that can lead to infections and death. As
for the games I could see them having a game every week without having
the all day party.
anim8rFSK
Nov 12, 2012, 8:08:33 AM11/12/12
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In article <46q1a8pq8uet4e8dd...@4ax.com>,
The bullet Carl shot her with.
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
number6
Nov 12, 2012, 10:53:53 AM11/12/12
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Another great episode ... They advanced character and plot very nicely ...
Showing Rick's mental state especially with the telephone ringing tease at the end was expert story telling IMO ...
number6
Nov 12, 2012, 10:58:44 AM11/12/12
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On Monday, November 12, 2012 7:16:21 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:
>
>
>
> If that's what it was then it shows that Merle and others did head out
>
> to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea. That's another sign
>
> that something isn't quite right in this Village.
There is a lot not quite right in the village ...
>
>
>
> If that's what it was then it shows that Merle and others did head out
>
> to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea. That's another sign
>
> that something isn't quite right in this Village.
Some people's attitudes have a Stepford Wives air about them ... along with a feeling reminiscent of a Star Trek TOS episode The Return of the Archons ...
Whatever they have in mind ... they've certainly created an environment for it ...
BTR1701
Nov 12, 2012, 11:54:16 AM11/12/12
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In article <08e547c1-e337-4d5e...@googlegroups.com>,
I'd forgotten about the phone. Seems we're not quite done with Lori yet
after all. Bleh.
after all. Bleh.
BTR1701
Nov 12, 2012, 11:57:13 AM11/12/12
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> I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
> fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
> earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
> more.
I thought that was the bullet that Carl shot into her head, he picked
> fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
> earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
> more.
out of the floor.
Jim T.
Nov 12, 2012, 11:58:52 AM11/12/12
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Ed Stasiak
Nov 12, 2012, 1:31:02 PM11/12/12
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> Ubiquitous
the zombie gladiator arena.
> The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
> leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
> thing for little girls.
I thought the list had both male and female names?
I was thinking it was a list of people who the Governor
knew and who had become zombified, with his daughter's
name underlined as defining the point when he flipped-out?
> the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
> who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
> I have problems with that
Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
her bones!) into its stomach?
Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they had
wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
> I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the
> walker games?
I'm guessing the Governor will toss Rick into the arena
when their inevitable confrontation happens.
> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
We did see Merle pulling the teeth from the zombies they
had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
>
> Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
> about the caged walkers she discovered
She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
> Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
> about the caged walkers she discovered
the zombie gladiator arena.
> The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
> leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
> thing for little girls.
I was thinking it was a list of people who the Governor
knew and who had become zombified, with his daughter's
name underlined as defining the point when he flipped-out?
> the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
> who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
> I have problems with that
her bones!) into its stomach?
Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they had
wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
> I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the
> walker games?
when their inevitable confrontation happens.
> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
Ed Stasiak
Nov 12, 2012, 1:34:44 PM11/12/12
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> anim8rFSK
> > shawn
fit with Rick saving it and putting it in his pocket but
apparently the "Talking Dead" confirmed that it was
the bullet, which is stupid.
> > shawn
> >
> > Notice how he found something in Lori's remains
> > (an earring or something else?)
>
> The bullet Carl shot her with.
I thought it was Lori's wedding ring, which would have
> > Notice how he found something in Lori's remains
> > (an earring or something else?)
>
> The bullet Carl shot her with.
fit with Rick saving it and putting it in his pocket but
apparently the "Talking Dead" confirmed that it was
the bullet, which is stupid.
Hunter
Nov 12, 2012, 1:36:44 PM11/12/12
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Maybe the "Reserch" group found Herschel's farm house, assuming when
the house was overrunn they were left behind?
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Ed Stasiak
Nov 12, 2012, 1:43:36 PM11/12/12
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> shawn
> > Ed Stasiak
the duffle bag but suggested that maybe the Governor had
sent out _another_ of his henchmen to investigate the Farm,
while denying Merle the opportunity (as we saw last week)?
Perhaps this was done to prevent Merle from hooking up with
his brother before the Governor has a chance to interview him
(and any others in the Atlanta group)?
> > Ed Stasiak
> >
> > what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
> > to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping
> > from Hershel's Farm.
>
> > what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
> > to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping
> > from Hershel's Farm.
>
> If that's what it was then it shows that Merle and others did head
> out to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea
Discussing this with a friend today and he didn't even notice
> out to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea
the duffle bag but suggested that maybe the Governor had
sent out _another_ of his henchmen to investigate the Farm,
while denying Merle the opportunity (as we saw last week)?
Perhaps this was done to prevent Merle from hooking up with
his brother before the Governor has a chance to interview him
(and any others in the Atlanta group)?
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
Nov 12, 2012, 1:02:26 PM11/12/12
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In article <k7qk5l$c7o$2...@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> Wow, what a way to end an ep! I suspect that phone call is going to turn
> out to be hallucinatory and from Lori.
I'm betting it's Carol
> Wow, what a way to end an ep! I suspect that phone call is going to turn
> out to be hallucinatory and from Lori.
anim8rFSK
Nov 12, 2012, 2:54:54 PM11/12/12
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In article
<f4fdf98c-c7ea-480e...@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
active again? Otherwise we should see Clodreamer fat zombies next to
remains all over the place, and god help the ones that come upon horses
...
<f4fdf98c-c7ea-480e...@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:
> > Ubiquitous
> >
> > Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
> > about the caged walkers she discovered
>
> She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
> the zombie gladiator arena.
>
> > The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
> > leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
> > thing for little girls.
>
> I thought the list had both male and female names?
>
> I was thinking it was a list of people who the Governor
> knew and who had become zombified, with his daughter's
> name underlined as defining the point when he flipped-out?
>
> > the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
> > who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
> > I have problems with that
>
> Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
> her bones!) into its stomach?
And if this happens ... is it digesting? Will it slim down and become
> > Ubiquitous
> >
> > Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
> > about the caged walkers she discovered
>
> She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
> the zombie gladiator arena.
>
> > The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
> > leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
> > thing for little girls.
>
> I thought the list had both male and female names?
>
> I was thinking it was a list of people who the Governor
> knew and who had become zombified, with his daughter's
> name underlined as defining the point when he flipped-out?
>
> > the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
> > who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
> > I have problems with that
>
> Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
> her bones!) into its stomach?
active again? Otherwise we should see Clodreamer fat zombies next to
remains all over the place, and god help the ones that come upon horses
...
anim8rFSK
Nov 12, 2012, 2:55:17 PM11/12/12
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anim8rFSK
Nov 12, 2012, 2:55:51 PM11/12/12
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anim8rFSK
Nov 12, 2012, 2:56:16 PM11/12/12
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Robin Miller
Nov 12, 2012, 5:52:40 PM11/12/12
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Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> Ubiquitous
evening, and he said that they used CGI to create the toothless mouths
of the zombies in the gladiator match, and that some of the "mouths
didn't come out right." So you probably did see a tooth, or at least a
CGI anomaly.
--Robin
>> Ubiquitous
>
>> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
>
> We did see Merle pulling the teeth from the zombies they
> had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
> one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
>
The director for the episode was a guest on The Talking Dead that
>> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
>
> We did see Merle pulling the teeth from the zombies they
> had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
> one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
>
evening, and he said that they used CGI to create the toothless mouths
of the zombies in the gladiator match, and that some of the "mouths
didn't come out right." So you probably did see a tooth, or at least a
CGI anomaly.
--Robin
shawn
Nov 12, 2012, 7:08:23 PM11/12/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:55:17 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
>In article <atropos-FAA90B...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <46q1a8pq8uet4e8dd...@4ax.com>,
>> shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
>> > fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
>> > earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
>> > more.
>>
>> I thought that was the bullet that Carl shot into her
>
>Yes
It was the bullet but I would never have known that except that they
mentioned it on Talking Dead. I couldn't tell what it was other than
it was small and it meant something to Rick. That's why I figured it
was something of Lori's.
wrote:
>In article <atropos-FAA90B...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <46q1a8pq8uet4e8dd...@4ax.com>,
>> shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
>> > fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
>> > earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
>> > more.
>>
>> I thought that was the bullet that Carl shot into her
>
>Yes
mentioned it on Talking Dead. I couldn't tell what it was other than
it was small and it meant something to Rick. That's why I figured it
was something of Lori's.
cloud dreamer
Nov 12, 2012, 7:38:15 PM11/12/12
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The bullet is the ricochet from the expended shot. Carol (who had been
practicing on how to help with the birth by training on the zombies)
found Lori, took her to the prison infirmary and stitched her up.
And now they're trapped and calling any number to get help....
Maybe.
..
Maste...@mailinator.com
Nov 12, 2012, 8:18:58 PM11/12/12
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esta...@att.net wrote:
> The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he
> seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why
> he was so super interested in how Michonne tamed hers a few weeks ago.
>
> The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he
> seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why
> he was so super interested in how Michonne tamed hers a few weeks ago.
>
> Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little
> girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
> thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The
> Shining.
In the comic if the walkers are unable to attack someone (because they don't have arms or teeth or are behind a barrier) they will eventually stop trying unless agitated. And walkers are generally not interested in attacking you unless they are hungry, so if you keep them well feed (as the Governor kept his daughter), they become lethargic. In the web-comic that establishes Michonne's backstory, she says something about how her walker pets stopped trying to attack her after a while. The scene with the Governor grooming his zombie daughter is in the comics as well, and he says something like, "You haven't tried to bite me in a long time." In the comic the Governor is much crazier and meaner than in the TV show, is abusive towards his walker daughter, slaps and calls her "little bitch" a lot, suggesting that he was abusive and possibly a molester before she became a zombie. My interpretation of the list of names is that it was a list of people he knew who have died since he became the group's leader, and losing his daughter is what sent him over the edge.
> girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
> thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The
> Shining.
shawn
Nov 12, 2012, 9:31:15 PM11/12/12
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they had nothing better to do. Guess times are boring in a zombie
apocalypse.
BTR1701
Nov 12, 2012, 9:49:49 PM11/12/12
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In article <3aKdndPVpbbqCzzN...@supernews.com>,
Right. On a phone in a prison that hasn't seen electricity or any kind
of utility service in a year. Get real, clod.
There's no one on the other end of that phone and it's not really
ringing. It's all in Rick's head. Expect to hear Lori's voice on the
other end of the line.
On the other hand, maybe it's one of those phones that work on natural
electricity and so it's not disabled, like all the ones that work on
artificial electricity.
of utility service in a year. Get real, clod.
There's no one on the other end of that phone and it's not really
ringing. It's all in Rick's head. Expect to hear Lori's voice on the
other end of the line.
On the other hand, maybe it's one of those phones that work on natural
electricity and so it's not disabled, like all the ones that work on
artificial electricity.
anim8rFSK
Nov 13, 2012, 12:34:52 AM11/13/12
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anim8rFSK
Nov 13, 2012, 12:36:06 AM11/13/12
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In article <atropos-46F719...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
As Jim G. says, I just wanted to see that again.
>
> Right. On a phone in a prison that hasn't seen electricity or any kind
> of utility service in a year. Get real, clod.
She may have found a new well of stupid.
> Right. On a phone in a prison that hasn't seen electricity or any kind
> of utility service in a year. Get real, clod.
>
> There's no one on the other end of that phone and it's not really
> ringing. It's all in Rick's head. Expect to hear Lori's voice on the
> other end of the line.
Oh, I hope not.
> There's no one on the other end of that phone and it's not really
> ringing. It's all in Rick's head. Expect to hear Lori's voice on the
> other end of the line.
>
> On the other hand, maybe it's one of those phones that work on natural
> electricity and so it's not disabled, like all the ones that work on
> artificial electricity.
Snerk.
> On the other hand, maybe it's one of those phones that work on natural
> electricity and so it's not disabled, like all the ones that work on
> artificial electricity.
Hunter
Nov 13, 2012, 10:01:30 AM11/13/12
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>esta...@att.net wrote:
>
>>When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>>to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>>seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>>to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>>Hershel's Farm.
>>
>>Was this supposed to mean something?
>
>
>>When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>>to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>>seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>>to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>>Hershel's Farm.
>>
>>Was this supposed to mean something?
>
>Besides The Governor took Andrea's weapons?
----
I don't think Andrea had the bag on her when she was cut off. I think
it means they found the Hershel farm via Andrea's information.
>
>Wow, what a way to end an ep! I suspect that phone call is going to turn
>out to be hallucinatory and from Lori.
----
>Wow, what a way to end an ep! I suspect that phone call is going to turn
>out to be hallucinatory and from Lori.
No, I think it will be a real phone call from inside the prison.
Everything else works Why not the internal phone system? Someone
actually live will be calling. Its a big prison.
The disappearance of Lori's body doesn't add up. I Mean yes we saw the
engorged Walker and thought he had Lori for dinner but where did the
bones go? Maybe I've forgotten but I don't recall Zombies eating bone
and really, while Lori was a slim woman she wasn't little. ALL of Lori
fit into that Walker, bones and all?
Alternatively the phone call could be from someone who found Carol.
>
>The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he
>seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why
>he was so super interested in how Michonne tamed hers a few weeks ago.
----
>The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he
>seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why
>he was so super interested in how Michonne tamed hers a few weeks ago.
Yeah but he isn't going to mutilate her like Michonne did to (Comic
book spoiler that I think has a good chance to be a show spoiler) ure
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I do think this could be what the serum was for. Anyway he has taken
it a step further than Hershel who was just waiting for a cure.
Phillip is likely looking for one.
>
>Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea about the caged
>Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea about the caged
>walkers she discovered and subsequently destroyed while she was snooping
>around? I would think that would immediately convince Anfrea, given what
>happened with the contents of Hershell's barn last season. I really hate
>when people don't discuss things they have seen, a la [i]Lost[/i]!
-----
>around? I would think that would immediately convince Anfrea, given what
>happened with the contents of Hershell's barn last season. I really hate
>when people don't discuss things they have seen, a la [i]Lost[/i]!
I don't think Michonne told her about the biters the Governor had but
The Governor beat her to the punch earlier by telling her about her
breaking in and slaughtering the Biters he had. She asked for an
explanation but he brushed her off and she didn't pursue the issue.
>
>Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little
>girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The
>Shining.
-----
>Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little
>girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The
>Shining.
Actually we don't know if they are all kids except his daughter Penny.
But I don't think he iis a child molester but trying to save people,
maybe children. When presumably, Penny got infected he went nuts hence
the pages of "\\\\\\\\\\\", back slashes.
>
>Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
-----
>Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
If you say so. I wouldn't would want my daughter bringing him home.
>
>I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
>until I was watching "[i]The Talking Dead[/i]" and the director
>I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
>explained that it was sppsd to be a walker who had feasted on Lori's
>remains to the point of immobility. I have problems with that, but I'll
>go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
-------
>go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
I have my doubts, As mentioned above I don't think Walkers eat bones,
but right now the Walker ate her is the most likely explanation.
>
>I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the walker games? He
>told Andrea they do it every week using toothless walkers but he made
>this big announcement about them celebrating their anniversary. Hmmm...
>Did those walkers look toothless to you? What about their
>I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the walker games? He
>told Andrea they do it every week using toothless walkers but he made
>this big announcement about them celebrating their anniversary. Hmmm...
>claws/fingernails?
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Pulled the fingernails I would suppose. I don't think he was lying
about the toothless walkers. Would Merle or anybody else get in the
ring with they still had their teeth? I don't think so.
And Phillip said they were there nine of them held up in an apartment
with spam and saltine crackers There was no time date given but If I
had to guess a month, two months after the world went to hell?
Hunter
Nov 13, 2012, 12:06:39 PM11/13/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 07:21:33 -0500, shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com>
wrote:
----
That is true. She should say something to convince Andrea even if she
has no proof.
Likely, like the arms of the scientist fishing jacket, similar to the
ones they train attack dogs with but homemade.
Something isn't right. Mostly would Walkers eat bone and would all of
Lori fit in its stomach of a Walker?
How does a Walker's mouth ever look right? LOL!
That is why I think they would've "declawed" them as well as
"defanged" them.
Of course it is insane to do what they were doing anyway.
wrote:
That is true. She should say something to convince Andrea even if she
has no proof.
>
>>Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
>
>I'm assuming that's supposed to help serve as bite protection.
-----
>>Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
>
>I'm assuming that's supposed to help serve as bite protection.
Likely, like the arms of the scientist fishing jacket, similar to the
ones they train attack dogs with but homemade.
>
>>I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
>>until I was watching "[i]The Talking Dead[/i]" and the director
>>explained that it was sppsd to be a walker who had feasted on Lori's
>>remains to the point of immobility. I have problems with that, but I'll
>>go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
>
>I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
>fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
>earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
>more.
----
>>I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
>>until I was watching "[i]The Talking Dead[/i]" and the director
>>explained that it was sppsd to be a walker who had feasted on Lori's
>>remains to the point of immobility. I have problems with that, but I'll
>>go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
>
>I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
>fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
>earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
>more.
Something isn't right. Mostly would Walkers eat bone and would all of
Lori fit in its stomach of a Walker?
>
>>I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the walker games? He
>>told Andrea they do it every week using toothless walkers but he made
>>this big announcement about them celebrating their anniversary. Hmmm...
>>Did those walkers look toothless to you? What about their
>>claws/fingernails?
>
>They did look toothless (though only because of CGI so their mouths
>didn't look completely right)
-----
>>I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the walker games? He
>>told Andrea they do it every week using toothless walkers but he made
>>this big announcement about them celebrating their anniversary. Hmmm...
>>Did those walkers look toothless to you? What about their
>>claws/fingernails?
>
>They did look toothless (though only because of CGI so their mouths
>didn't look completely right)
How does a Walker's mouth ever look right? LOL!
>
> but there is a real danger in getting
>cut by their hands. We know that can lead to infections and death. As
>for the games I could see them having a game every week without having
>the all day party.
------
> but there is a real danger in getting
>cut by their hands. We know that can lead to infections and death. As
>for the games I could see them having a game every week without having
>the all day party.
That is why I think they would've "declawed" them as well as
"defanged" them.
Of course it is insane to do what they were doing anyway.
jazzyJack
Nov 13, 2012, 12:49:52 PM11/13/12
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On Monday, November 12, 2012 6:31:32 PM UTC-8, shawn wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:08:15 -0330, cloud dreamer
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:08:15 -0330, cloud dreamer
>
> <reduce> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 12/11/2012 8:38 PM, shawn wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:55:17 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8rfsk>
>
>
>
> >On 12/11/2012 8:38 PM, shawn wrote:
>
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> In article <atropos-FAA90B.08571312112012>,
>
> >>> BTR1701 <atropos> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> In article <46q1a8pq8uet4e8ddpru9useg1kli8ds4h>,
>
> >>>> shawn <nanoflower> wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>> I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
>
> >>>>> fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
>
> >>>>> earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
>
> >>>>> more.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> I thought that was the bullet that Carl shot into her
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Yes
>
> >>
>
> >> It was the bullet but I would never have known that except that they
>
> >> mentioned it on Talking Dead. I couldn't tell what it was other than
>
> >> it was small and it meant something to Rick. That's why I figured it
>
> >> was something of Lori's.
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >She's still alive! Carol is still alive. Carl didn't shoot his mother.
>
> >The bullet is the ricochet from the expended shot. Carol (who had been
>
> >practicing on how to help with the birth by training on the zombies)
>
> >found Lori, took her to the prison infirmary and stitched her up.
>
> >
>
> >And now they're trapped and calling any number to get help....
>
> >
>
> >Maybe.
>
>
>
> Uh huh.. So they dug the graves for Carol, Lori and T-Dog just because
>
> they had nothing better to do. Guess times are boring in a zombie
>
> apocalypse.
They might as well as dig holes for everybody, then, just to be ready. Of course then there's the problem of keeping the zombies from falling in to the holes and stacking up.
> >>>> shawn <nanoflower> wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>> I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
>
> >>>>> fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
>
> >>>>> earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
>
> >>>>> more.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> I thought that was the bullet that Carl shot into her
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Yes
>
> >>
>
> >> It was the bullet but I would never have known that except that they
>
> >> mentioned it on Talking Dead. I couldn't tell what it was other than
>
> >> it was small and it meant something to Rick. That's why I figured it
>
> >> was something of Lori's.
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >She's still alive! Carol is still alive. Carl didn't shoot his mother.
>
> >The bullet is the ricochet from the expended shot. Carol (who had been
>
> >practicing on how to help with the birth by training on the zombies)
>
> >found Lori, took her to the prison infirmary and stitched her up.
>
> >
>
> >And now they're trapped and calling any number to get help....
>
> >
>
> >Maybe.
>
>
>
> Uh huh.. So they dug the graves for Carol, Lori and T-Dog just because
>
> they had nothing better to do. Guess times are boring in a zombie
>
> apocalypse.
Hunter
Nov 13, 2012, 1:33:07 PM11/13/12
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Rick wasn't in his right mind.
Ed Stasiak
Nov 13, 2012, 2:17:19 PM11/13/12
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> Hunter
Even discounting the bones, a human (even
zombified) could not fit 100 lbs of meat into
its stomach and human teeth would break
attempting to eat bones.
I figured Lori was zombified or several zombies
had helped Fatso Zombie eat her (wandering
away afterward) but apparently the producers
have said said she was completely eaten by
that one zombie.
>
> Mostly would Walkers eat bone and would
> all of Lori fit in its stomach of a Walker?
No, on both counts.
> Mostly would Walkers eat bone and would
> all of Lori fit in its stomach of a Walker?
Even discounting the bones, a human (even
zombified) could not fit 100 lbs of meat into
its stomach and human teeth would break
attempting to eat bones.
I figured Lori was zombified or several zombies
had helped Fatso Zombie eat her (wandering
away afterward) but apparently the producers
have said said she was completely eaten by
that one zombie.
Hunter
Nov 13, 2012, 3:49:15 PM11/13/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:08:15 -0330, cloud dreamer
I believe Carol is alive.
I believe in the possibility-because I find the "crime scene"
suspicious- that *someone* found Lori and got her to the infirmery and
called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating). Other people could
be alive in other wings.
But I don't think those two things are neccessarily connected. Carol
got out of the prison building it self probably on the other side of
the property. I think the odds of her finding Lori and then having the
strength to get her to the infirmary is remote, assuming she even
knows where it is.
Barry Margolin
Nov 13, 2012, 4:02:57 PM11/13/12
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In article <50a2b240...@news.optonline.net>,
was eaten by the zombie that Rick found?
--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
> I believe in the possibility-because I find the "crime scene"
> suspicious- that *someone* found Lori and got her to the infirmery and
> called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating). Other people could
> be alive in other wings.
Even though the director of the episode told us on Talking Dead that she
> I believe in the possibility-because I find the "crime scene"
> suspicious- that *someone* found Lori and got her to the infirmery and
> called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating). Other people could
> be alive in other wings.
was eaten by the zombie that Rick found?
--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
cloud dreamer
Nov 13, 2012, 5:28:25 PM11/13/12
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I don't remember the director saying that, but I was distracted for part
of the show.
Then I'd guess the phone could be Carol telling him she's trapped in
another part of the prison.
..
shawn
Nov 13, 2012, 5:40:07 PM11/13/12
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Maggie and Daryl discussed her death. That seals the discussion from
my viewpoint. Though I will admit before they talked about the three
graves I thought she might still be alive.
Ed Stasiak
Nov 13, 2012, 7:57:58 PM11/13/12
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> cloud dreamer
phone to work, (the generator was already off)
how the hell would Carol know the extension to
Random Utility Room #325435?
>
> Then I'd guess the phone could be Carol telling
> him she's trapped in another part of the prison.
Beyond the fact that electricity is needed for the
> Then I'd guess the phone could be Carol telling
> him she's trapped in another part of the prison.
phone to work, (the generator was already off)
how the hell would Carol know the extension to
Random Utility Room #325435?
inf...@mindspring.com
Nov 13, 2012, 10:10:46 PM11/13/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:57:58 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> cloud dreamer
>>
>> Then I'd guess the phone could be Carol telling
>> him she's trapped in another part of the prison.
>
>Beyond the fact that electricity is needed for the
>phone to work,
Is it? My land line stil works when the power goes off.
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> cloud dreamer
>>
>> Then I'd guess the phone could be Carol telling
>> him she's trapped in another part of the prison.
>
>Beyond the fact that electricity is needed for the
>phone to work,
BTR1701
Nov 13, 2012, 10:15:52 PM11/13/12
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In article <50a2b240...@news.optonline.net>,
I believe it for no other reason than they wouldn't kill off a major
character off screen.
> that *someone* found Lori and got her to the infirmery and
> called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating).
They're obviously following the subplot of the comic, where Rick spends
months having secret imaginary conversations with Lori through the
handset of an old phone.
And what point would there be taking Lori to the infirmary? She bled out
and had a bullet through the noggin. Not much Carol can do about that.
character off screen.
> that *someone* found Lori and got her to the infirmery and
> called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating).
months having secret imaginary conversations with Lori through the
handset of an old phone.
And what point would there be taking Lori to the infirmary? She bled out
and had a bullet through the noggin. Not much Carol can do about that.
BTR1701
Nov 13, 2012, 10:55:43 PM11/13/12
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Tom
Nov 13, 2012, 11:17:47 PM11/13/12
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On Nov 13, 2:49 pm, Hunter <buffhun...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:08:15 -0330, cloud dreamer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <red...@reuse.andrecycle.com> wrote:
> >On 12/11/2012 8:38 PM, shawn wrote:
> >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:55:17 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:08:15 -0330, cloud dreamer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <red...@reuse.andrecycle.com> wrote:
> >On 12/11/2012 8:38 PM, shawn wrote:
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> In article <atropos-FAA90B.08571312112...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
> >>> BTR1701 <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> In article <46q1a8pq8uet4e8ddpru9useg1kli8d...@4ax.com>,
corpse, not dead.
Here's an interview with SWC... I think Lori really is dead...
http://tvline.com/2012/11/05/sarah-wayne-callies-the-walking-dead-death-season-3/
Tom
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 12:46:28 AM11/14/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:31:15 -0500, shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com>
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They suspect that Carol is dead and would eventually find her remains.
Darryl left a flower on her supposed grave.
They suspect that Carol is dead and would eventually find her remains.
Darryl left a flower on her supposed grave.
anim8rFSK
Nov 14, 2012, 1:04:31 AM11/14/12
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In article
<25433046-4ec2-4a78...@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
"Dumb as Clodreamer" - there's a reason that's a saying.
<25433046-4ec2-4a78...@v9g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 4:00:14 AM11/14/12
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The prison alarm system seemed to be working great a few hours before
so I am not surprised that the phones work.
>
>There's no one on the other end of that phone and it's not really
>ringing. It's all in Rick's head. Expect to hear Lori's voice on the
>other end of the line.
-----
>There's no one on the other end of that phone and it's not really
>ringing. It's all in Rick's head. Expect to hear Lori's voice on the
>other end of the line.
You could be right since Rick was detached from reality a bit to say
the least but I don't think so.
>
>On the other hand, maybe it's one of those phones that work on natural
>electricity and so it's not disabled, like all the ones that work on
>artificial electricity
----
>On the other hand, maybe it's one of those phones that work on natural
>electricity and so it's not disabled, like all the ones that work on
>artificial electricity
As noted above the prison alarm system was working fine. Do prisons
have their own internal phone systems?
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 6:14:04 AM11/14/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:31:02 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> Ubiquitous
>the zombie gladiator arena.
-----
Actually she would've belived her if she did because The Govenor did
tell Andrea about Michonne's target practice on the capitive biters.
----
Yes they did, and we don't know if they or any were children, except
his own daughter Penny. And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't
make him a child molester.
>
>I was thinking it was a list of people who the Governor
>knew and who had become zombified, with his daughter's
>name underlined as defining the point when he flipped-out?
------
I think so top, just like Rick but as far as we know he didn't go on a
zombie massarcre spree but focused his crazinss on his notebook until
he came out of it-assuming he did.
>her bones!) into its stomach?
-----
EXACTLY!
>
>Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they had
>wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
-----
That would be a workable scenerio but do Walkers eat bone?
>when their inevitable confrontation happens.
-----
Me too, and they won't be toothless and fingernailess
Not that I saw but if there was it was a production mistake.
BTW that was a cool solar powered noise making walker trap.
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> Ubiquitous
>>
>> Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
>> about the caged walkers she discovered
>
>She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
>> Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
>> about the caged walkers she discovered
>
>the zombie gladiator arena.
-----
Actually she would've belived her if she did because The Govenor did
tell Andrea about Michonne's target practice on the capitive biters.
>
>> The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
>> leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>> thing for little girls.
>
>I thought the list had both male and female names?
>> The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
>> leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>> thing for little girls.
>
----
Yes they did, and we don't know if they or any were children, except
his own daughter Penny. And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't
make him a child molester.
>
>I was thinking it was a list of people who the Governor
>knew and who had become zombified, with his daughter's
>name underlined as defining the point when he flipped-out?
------
I think so top, just like Rick but as far as we know he didn't go on a
zombie massarcre spree but focused his crazinss on his notebook until
he came out of it-assuming he did.
>
>> the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
>> who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
>> I have problems with that
>
>Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
>> the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
>> who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
>> I have problems with that
>
>her bones!) into its stomach?
-----
EXACTLY!
>
>Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they had
>wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
-----
That would be a workable scenerio but do Walkers eat bone?
>
>> I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the
>> walker games?
>
>I'm guessing the Governor will toss Rick into the arena
>> I wonder how truthful The Governor was being about the
>> walker games?
>
>when their inevitable confrontation happens.
-----
Me too, and they won't be toothless and fingernailess
>
>> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
>
>> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
>
>We did see Merle pulling the teeth from the zombies they
>had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
>one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
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>had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
>one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
Not that I saw but if there was it was a production mistake.
BTW that was a cool solar powered noise making walker trap.
cloud dreamer
Nov 14, 2012, 7:05:25 AM11/14/12
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An infirmary could easily have a generator.
..
Ubiquitous
Nov 14, 2012, 8:04:05 AM11/14/12
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if memeory serves), which is why they don't go out during black outs.
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 8:17:38 AM11/14/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:18:58 -0800 (PST), Maste...@mailinator.com
wrote:
>esta...@att.net wrote:
>> The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he=
>=20
>> seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why=
>=20
>> girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a=
>=20
>> thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The=
>=20
>> Shining.
>
>In the comic if the walkers are unable to attack someone (because they don'=
>t have arms or teeth or are behind a barrier) they will eventually stop try=
>ing unless agitated.
-----
And that matches what we saw in the first episode of the season.
>
> And walkers are generally not interested in attacking=
> you unless they are hungry, so if you keep them well feed (as the Governor=
That matches what we saw of the one that seemingly divorored Lori.
>
> In the web-comic that establis=
>hes Michonne's backstory, she says something about how her walker pets stop=
>ped trying to attack her after a while. The scene with the Governor groomi=
>ng his zombie daughter is in the comics as well, and he says something like=
>, "You haven't tried to bite me in a long time." In the comic the Governor=
> is much crazier and meaner than in the TV show, is abusive towards his wal=
>ker daughter, slaps and calls her "little bitch" a lot, suggesting that he =
Is it specified in the comics that he was a molester? If it was a hit
list of sorts why would Penny's name on it?
>
> My interpr=
>etation of the list of names is that it was a list of people he knew who ha=
>ve died since he became the group's leader, and losing his daughter is what=
Possible given what we have seen. He definately lost it given that he
wronte "\\\\\" in his diary.
wrote:
>esta...@att.net wrote:
>> The opening scene with The Governor was creepy as hell. I wonder how he=
>=20
>> seemed to have (mostly) calmed down his walker daughter? Now we know why=
>=20
>> he was so super interested in how Michonne tamed hers a few weeks ago.
>>
>> Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little=20
>>
>> girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a=
>=20
>> thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The=
>=20
>> Shining.
>
>In the comic if the walkers are unable to attack someone (because they don'=
>t have arms or teeth or are behind a barrier) they will eventually stop try=
>ing unless agitated.
-----
And that matches what we saw in the first episode of the season.
>
> And walkers are generally not interested in attacking=
> you unless they are hungry, so if you keep them well feed (as the Governor=
> kept his daughter), they become lethargic.
------
That matches what we saw of the one that seemingly divorored Lori.
>
> In the web-comic that establis=
>hes Michonne's backstory, she says something about how her walker pets stop=
>ped trying to attack her after a while. The scene with the Governor groomi=
>ng his zombie daughter is in the comics as well, and he says something like=
>, "You haven't tried to bite me in a long time." In the comic the Governor=
> is much crazier and meaner than in the TV show, is abusive towards his wal=
>ker daughter, slaps and calls her "little bitch" a lot, suggesting that he =
>was abusive and possibly a molester before she became a zombie.
-----
Is it specified in the comics that he was a molester? If it was a hit
list of sorts why would Penny's name on it?
>
> My interpr=
>etation of the list of names is that it was a list of people he knew who ha=
>ve died since he became the group's leader, and losing his daughter is what=
> sent him over the edge.
------
Possible given what we have seen. He definately lost it given that he
wronte "\\\\\" in his diary.
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 10:04:30 AM11/14/12
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Didn't see that. That would mean the Zombies eat bone. If so....
The scene didn't look right that is why I questioned it. I mean it
does have a macarbe poetic irony to it. The formerly pregnant Lori's
remains makes a Walker look pregnant, which is probably why Rick
stabbed it in the stomach.
I am still having trouble with it eating bones.
Barry Margolin
Nov 14, 2012, 10:19:02 AM11/14/12
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have electricity, it can't power all the phones.
Not to mention that the phone system in a prison would probably be a
digital PBX, not ancient POTS phones. If you work in an office, don't
your phones plug into the electrical outlets?
Barry Margolin
Nov 14, 2012, 10:31:46 AM11/14/12
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In article <50a3b233....@news.optonline.net>,
As have several earlier posters. I suspect the producers just didn't
think of this detail. They were going for atmosphere, not realism, with
little hints like the bullet and Lori's hair in the zombie's teeth.
As have several earlier posters. I suspect the producers just didn't
think of this detail. They were going for atmosphere, not realism, with
little hints like the bullet and Lori's hair in the zombie's teeth.
Ubiquitous
Nov 14, 2012, 11:45:41 AM11/14/12
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In article <50a37c79...@news.optonline.net>, buffh...@my-deja.com wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:31:02 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:
>>> Ubiquitous
>>> Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
>>> about the caged walkers she discovered
>>
>>She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
>>the zombie gladiator arena.
>
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:31:02 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:
>>> Ubiquitous
>>> Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
>>> about the caged walkers she discovered
>>
>>She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
>>the zombie gladiator arena.
>
>Actually she would've belived her if she did because The Govenor did
>tell Andrea about Michonne's target practice on the capitive biters.
I don't think he mentioned them being walkers, implying she attacked his men.
>tell Andrea about Michonne's target practice on the capitive biters.
>>> The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
>>> leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>>> thing for little girls.
>>
>>I thought the list had both male and female names?
>
>Yes they did, and we don't know if they or any were children, except
>his own daughter Penny. And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't
>make him a child molester.
Perhaps I am thinking of something I heard about the comic?
>his own daughter Penny. And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't
>make him a child molester.
>>> the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
>>> who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
>>> I have problems with that
>>
>>Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
>>her bones!) into its stomach?
>
How did it manage to eat something so bitter?
>>Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they had
>>wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
>
>That would be a workable scenerio but do Walkers eat bone?
If memory serves, Daryl and Andrea found a guy who hung himself and whose legs
were eaten by Walkers, leaving behind skeletal remains of his legs. I
conjectured that there were more than one Walker who found Lori's body and tore
it apart and wandered off, leaving their friend behind in a feeding torpir.
>>> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
>>
>>We did see Merle pulling the teeth from the zombies they
>>had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
>>one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
>
>Not that I saw but if there was it was a production mistake.
I think someone on The Talking Dead said they were sppsd to be toothless but
messed up the CGI.
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 12:05:27 PM11/14/12
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That's true.
>
>> that *someone* found Lori and got her to the infirmery and
>> called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating).
>
>They're obviously following the subplot of the comic, where Rick spends
>months having secret imaginary conversations with Lori through the
>handset of an old phone.
--------
>> that *someone* found Lori and got her to the infirmery and
>> called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating).
>
>They're obviously following the subplot of the comic, where Rick spends
>months having secret imaginary conversations with Lori through the
>handset of an old phone.
Ahhhhh I didn't read about that about Rick halucinating in the comics
so my suspicions are moot.
>
>And what point would there be taking Lori to the infirmary? She bled out
>and had a bullet through the noggin. Not much Carol can do about that.
-----
>And what point would there be taking Lori to the infirmary? She bled out
>and had a bullet through the noggin. Not much Carol can do about that.
That's true, but I was considering that someone else found her.
Ed Stasiak
Nov 14, 2012, 12:18:04 PM11/14/12
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> cloud dreamer
and Crossbro turned off after killing Skinny Prisoner, who
had turned it on to sound the escape alarm in an effort to
draw zombies into the prison complex.
But the generator was already off by the time Rick flipped
out and reentered the prison to look for Lori's body.
No electricity = no phone = Rick is hallucinating.
>
> An infirmary could easily have a generator.
The prison has a large diesel generator, which Rick, Oscar
> An infirmary could easily have a generator.
and Crossbro turned off after killing Skinny Prisoner, who
had turned it on to sound the escape alarm in an effort to
draw zombies into the prison complex.
But the generator was already off by the time Rick flipped
out and reentered the prison to look for Lori's body.
No electricity = no phone = Rick is hallucinating.
Ed Stasiak
Nov 14, 2012, 12:19:02 PM11/14/12
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> Barry Margolin
that even the phone itself is an hallucination.
>
> Not to mention that the phone system in a prison would
> probably be a digital PBX, not ancient POTS phones
IIRC, the phone was an old school dial type, suggesting
> Not to mention that the phone system in a prison would
> probably be a digital PBX, not ancient POTS phones
that even the phone itself is an hallucination.
Ed Stasiak
Nov 14, 2012, 12:35:30 PM11/14/12
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> Hunter
> > Ed Stasiak
> > I thought the list had both male and female names?
>
like AMC dropped that aspect (for the better IMO, as the
comic Governor was too over-the-top).
> > Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they
> > had wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
>
(even zombified) to crush bone.
> BTW that was a cool solar powered noise making walker trap.
I thought it was a vertical wind turbine generator at first.
I'd think several "tiger traps" like that a few miles outside
of Woodbury would help in securing the countryside, which
they'll need to get going on if they're to start farming.
> > Ed Stasiak
> >
> > She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
> > the zombie gladiator arena.
>
> > She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
> > the zombie gladiator arena.
>
> Actually she would've belived her if she did
Michonne _did_ tell Andrea but she didn't believe her.
> > I thought the list had both male and female names?
>
> And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't make him a child
> molester.
Agreed, in the comic the Governor is a pedo but it looks
> molester.
like AMC dropped that aspect (for the better IMO, as the
comic Governor was too over-the-top).
> > Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they
> > had wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
>
> That would be a workable scenerio but do Walkers eat bone?
No, human teeth and jaw muscles aren't strong enough
(even zombified) to crush bone.
> BTW that was a cool solar powered noise making walker trap.
I'd think several "tiger traps" like that a few miles outside
of Woodbury would help in securing the countryside, which
they'll need to get going on if they're to start farming.
Ed Stasiak
Nov 14, 2012, 12:50:18 PM11/14/12
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> Hunter
killed by the people of Woodbury _and_ living people of
Woodbury who have been killed by zombies.
There were several pages of hash marks and each page
had several hundred marks, so it couldn't be just living
humans who had been killed.
There was also a line from the Governors mistress/secretary
stating "we haven't had a break-in in over a month", implying
that there have been regular deaths up to that point, as the
town was in the process of being secured.
But having flipped out over his daughter's zombification,
the Governor no longer even bothers with names and just
lumps zombie and human deaths together.
>
> He definately lost it given that he wronte "\\\\\" in his diary.
I'm thinking the hash marks are zombies who have been
> He definately lost it given that he wronte "\\\\\" in his diary.
killed by the people of Woodbury _and_ living people of
Woodbury who have been killed by zombies.
There were several pages of hash marks and each page
had several hundred marks, so it couldn't be just living
humans who had been killed.
There was also a line from the Governors mistress/secretary
stating "we haven't had a break-in in over a month", implying
that there have been regular deaths up to that point, as the
town was in the process of being secured.
But having flipped out over his daughter's zombification,
the Governor no longer even bothers with names and just
lumps zombie and human deaths together.
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 1:58:56 PM11/14/12
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Actually I just read from "BTR1701" that Rick does hallucinate getting
a phone call from Lori so I surrender on that. :-)
>
>An infirmary could easily have a generator.
-----
>An infirmary could easily have a generator.
Power was being delivered from somewhere for the escape alarm so it
could've been the same for the phone system-and the infirmary, but I
now believe Rick is hallucinating.
anim8rFSK
Nov 14, 2012, 3:09:18 PM11/14/12
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~consul
Nov 14, 2012, 3:48:53 PM11/14/12
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'tis on this 11/12/2012 5:48 AM, wrote Ubiquitous thus to say:
> esta...@att.net wrote:
>> When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>> to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>> seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>> to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>> Hershel's Farm.
>> Was this supposed to mean something?
> Besides The Governor took Andrea's weapons?
I think we are meant to think if he actually went to Hershalls farm like Andrea told Merle about, but I don't know if he did or not. He might have sent someone else besides Merle to the farm, someone who he would trust not to run off looking for family.
> Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little
His daughter could really be dead, and these are all the other girls he's been finding (and naming) as surrogates trying to reclaim some of his past.
> Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
This is why we won't see the gang in the police uniforms, it hinders them from wearing coolstuff.
> I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
> until I was watching "[i]The Talking Dead[/i]" and the director
> go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
It did seem rather ... gratitous that this particular walker ate Lori, or even found her. She was dead, quiet and not moving, I don't know why this walker would go for her. And it should have been a ring, not a bullet, would have made mroe sense. Unless the ring is somehow gone from in some other episode.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
> esta...@att.net wrote:
>> When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>> to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>> seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>> to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>> Hershel's Farm.
>> Was this supposed to mean something?
> Besides The Governor took Andrea's weapons?
I think we are meant to think if he actually went to Hershalls farm like Andrea told Merle about, but I don't know if he did or not. He might have sent someone else besides Merle to the farm, someone who he would trust not to run off looking for family.
> Speaking of which, The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little
> girl's names, leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
> thing for little girls. That diary seemed to be a direct allusion to The
> Shining.
His daughter could really be dead, and these are all the other girls he's been finding (and naming) as surrogates trying to reclaim some of his past.
> Daryl in a poncho was hot. I'm just saying.
This is why we won't see the gang in the police uniforms, it hinders them from wearing coolstuff.
> I thought Lori had turned into the ugliest pregnant walker in the world
> until I was watching "[i]The Talking Dead[/i]" and the director
> explained that it was sppsd to be a walker who had feasted on Lori's
> remains to the point of immobility. I have problems with that, but I'll
> go along with it. Happy Thanksgiving with The Walkers!
It did seem rather ... gratitous that this particular walker ate Lori, or even found her. She was dead, quiet and not moving, I don't know why this walker would go for her. And it should have been a ring, not a bullet, would have made mroe sense. Unless the ring is somehow gone from in some other episode.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
~consul
Nov 14, 2012, 3:59:49 PM11/14/12
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'tis on this 11/13/2012 10:01 AM, wrote Hunter (Hunter) thus to say:
> The disappearance of Lori's body doesn't add up. I Mean yes we saw the
> engorged Walker and thought he had Lori for dinner but where did the
> bones go? Maybe I've forgotten but I don't recall Zombies eating bone
> and really, while Lori was a slim woman she wasn't little. ALL of Lori
> fit into that Walker, bones and all?
That's true, there is a lot of Lori to eat, if you eat her up. I wonder, they could crossover with Fringe and have the recently birthed placenta be a cure for the disease! The womb protects the baby from the mom's body, so it could have some handwavey properties that cures the zombies too. :D
> The disappearance of Lori's body doesn't add up. I Mean yes we saw the
> engorged Walker and thought he had Lori for dinner but where did the
> bones go? Maybe I've forgotten but I don't recall Zombies eating bone
> and really, while Lori was a slim woman she wasn't little. ALL of Lori
> fit into that Walker, bones and all?
That's true, there is a lot of Lori to eat, if you eat her up. I wonder, they could crossover with Fringe and have the recently birthed placenta be a cure for the disease! The womb protects the baby from the mom's body, so it could have some handwavey properties that cures the zombies too. :D
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 4:01:54 PM11/14/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:04:05 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:
------
True, but I was thinking an independent power supply just like the one
that powered the alarm since I doubt that batteries would last 10
months due to the passive power drain eleven if no calls were made.
Anyway it is a moot point since I was told that Rick hallucinates
about Lori over the phone in the comics so....
wrote:
True, but I was thinking an independent power supply just like the one
that powered the alarm since I doubt that batteries would last 10
months due to the passive power drain eleven if no calls were made.
Anyway it is a moot point since I was told that Rick hallucinates
about Lori over the phone in the comics so....
cloud dreamer
Nov 14, 2012, 4:26:26 PM11/14/12
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Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 4:31:32 PM11/14/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 07:16:30 -0500, shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:36:17 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
>to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea. That's another sign
>that something isn't quite right in this Village.
----
For the record Andrea did give them the information about the farm
when Merle first interviewed her.
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:36:17 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
><esta...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>>to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>>seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>>to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>>Hershel's Farm.
>>
>>Was this supposed to mean something?
>
>If that's what it was then it shows that Merle and others did head out
>
>>When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>>to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>>seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>>to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>>Hershel's Farm.
>>
>>Was this supposed to mean something?
>
>to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea. That's another sign
>that something isn't quite right in this Village.
----
For the record Andrea did give them the information about the farm
when Merle first interviewed her.
~consul
Nov 14, 2012, 4:49:50 PM11/14/12
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> On Monday, November 12, 2012 6:31:32 PM UTC-8, shawn wrote:
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>> Uh huh.. So they dug the graves for Carol, Lori and T-Dog just because
>> they had nothing better to do. Guess times are boring in a zombie apocalypse.
> They might as well as dig holes for everybody, then, just to be ready. Of course then there's the problem of keeping the zombies from falling in to the holes and stacking up.
>> they had nothing better to do. Guess times are boring in a zombie apocalypse.
Given his attitude in the confession to Hershal, I was thinking that he had them dig their own.
~consul
Nov 14, 2012, 5:56:10 PM11/14/12
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'tis on this 11/14/2012 12:35 PM, wrote Ed Stasiak thus to say:
>> Hunter
> I'd think several "tiger traps" like that a few miles outside
> of Woodbury would help in securing the countryside, which
> they'll need to get going on if they're to start farming.
I don't know if they want it that close. If a herd is walking by, like those form the highway or the ones that came to the Farm, it would overwhelm the biggest practical pit they would have dug.
>> Hunter
>> BTW that was a cool solar powered noise making walker trap.
> I thought it was a vertical wind turbine generator at first.
It looked like both. :D
> I thought it was a vertical wind turbine generator at first.
> I'd think several "tiger traps" like that a few miles outside
> of Woodbury would help in securing the countryside, which
> they'll need to get going on if they're to start farming.
BTR1701
Nov 14, 2012, 6:22:09 PM11/14/12
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thing left working at that point would be those natural-electricity-driven
phones, huh?
Hunter
Nov 14, 2012, 7:48:15 PM11/14/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:43:36 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> shawn
>> > Ed Stasiak
>the duffle bag but suggested that maybe the Governor had
>sent out _another_ of his henchmen to investigate the Farm,
>while denying Merle the opportunity (as we saw last week)?
------
Maybe but Merle knew that the farm was abandoned
>
>Perhaps this was done to prevent Merle from hooking up with
>his brother before the Governor has a chance to interview him
>(and any others in the Atlanta group)?
------
Maybe it would give Merle divided loyalties.
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> shawn
>> > Ed Stasiak
>> >
>> > what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>> > to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping
>> > from Hershel's Farm.
>>
>> > what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>> > to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping
>> > from Hershel's Farm.
>>
>> If that's what it was then it shows that Merle and others did head
>> out to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea
>
>Discussing this with a friend today and he didn't even notice
>> out to the farm, and no one mentioned it to Andrea
>
>the duffle bag but suggested that maybe the Governor had
>sent out _another_ of his henchmen to investigate the Farm,
>while denying Merle the opportunity (as we saw last week)?
------
Maybe but Merle knew that the farm was abandoned
>
>Perhaps this was done to prevent Merle from hooking up with
>his brother before the Governor has a chance to interview him
>(and any others in the Atlanta group)?
------
Maybe it would give Merle divided loyalties.
anim8rFSK
Nov 14, 2012, 7:57:20 PM11/14/12
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In article <k8103m$uh6$2...@dont-email.me>,
She was gutted like a trout and bleeding all over the place ...
Hunter
Nov 15, 2012, 2:12:02 AM11/15/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:58:52 -0500, Jim T. <x@y.z> wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:36:17 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
>On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:36:17 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
><esta...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>>to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>>seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>>to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>>Hershel's Farm.
>>
>>Was this supposed to mean something?
>
>I may be mistaken, but I thought I saw the bags moving.
>
>>When Michonne was breaking into the Governor's house/rooms
>>to get her sword, there's a quick cut of her glancing to the side and
>>seeing what I think is the duffle bag of guns Rick originally brought
>>to Atlanta, which Andrea tried to take with her when escaping from
>>Hershel's Farm.
>>
>>Was this supposed to mean something?
>
----
No, the bags didn't move.
Hunter
Nov 15, 2012, 9:33:31 AM11/15/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:54:54 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
>In article
><f4fdf98c-c7ea-480e...@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>> knew and who had become zombified, with his daughter's
>> name underlined as defining the point when he flipped-out?
>active again? Otherwise we should see Clodreamer fat zombies next to
>remains all over the place, and god help the ones that come upon horses
---
They would explode!
wrote:
>In article
><f4fdf98c-c7ea-480e...@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
> Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> > Ubiquitous
>> >
>> > Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
>> > about the caged walkers she discovered
>>
>
>> > Ubiquitous
>> >
>> > Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
>> > about the caged walkers she discovered
>>
>> She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
>> the zombie gladiator arena.
>>
>> the zombie gladiator arena.
>>
>> > The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
>> > leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>> > thing for little girls.
>>
>> > leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>> > thing for little girls.
>>
>> I thought the list had both male and female names?
>>
>> I was thinking it was a list of people who the Governor
>>
>> knew and who had become zombified, with his daughter's
>> name underlined as defining the point when he flipped-out?
>>
>> > the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
>> > who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
>> > the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
>> > who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
>> > I have problems with that
>>
>> Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
>> her bones!) into its stomach?
>
>And if this happens ... is it digesting? Will it slim down and become
>>
>> Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
>> her bones!) into its stomach?
>
>active again? Otherwise we should see Clodreamer fat zombies next to
>remains all over the place, and god help the ones that come upon horses
---
They would explode!
Mason Barge
Nov 15, 2012, 11:39:23 AM11/15/12
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telephone ring involves a complex of switches and routers that couldn't
possibly be working.
Hunter
Nov 15, 2012, 1:48:53 PM11/15/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:17:19 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hunter
>>
>> Mostly would Walkers eat bone and would
>> all of Lori fit in its stomach of a Walker?
>
>No, on both counts.
>
>Even discounting the bones, a human (even
>zombified) could not fit 100 lbs of meat into
>its stomach and human teeth would break
>attempting to eat bones.
>
>I figured Lori was zombified or several zombies
>had helped Fatso Zombie eat her (wandering
>away afterward) but apparently the producers
>have said said she was completely eaten by
>that one zombie.
----
Yes what made me suspicious of that was as I said before I don't
recall zombies eating bone and how can Lori a slim but still pretty
big girl fit in one Walker?
But I guess the writers were going for poetic irony. Lori just
bloated by pregnancy a few minutes or so before makes a zombie bloated
by it consuming her remains, making her look like it was pregnant with
her.
This could be a good reason why we don't see many skeletons around
though. :-)
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hunter
>>
>> Mostly would Walkers eat bone and would
>> all of Lori fit in its stomach of a Walker?
>
>No, on both counts.
>
>Even discounting the bones, a human (even
>zombified) could not fit 100 lbs of meat into
>its stomach and human teeth would break
>attempting to eat bones.
>
>I figured Lori was zombified or several zombies
>had helped Fatso Zombie eat her (wandering
>away afterward) but apparently the producers
>have said said she was completely eaten by
>that one zombie.
----
Yes what made me suspicious of that was as I said before I don't
recall zombies eating bone and how can Lori a slim but still pretty
big girl fit in one Walker?
But I guess the writers were going for poetic irony. Lori just
bloated by pregnancy a few minutes or so before makes a zombie bloated
by it consuming her remains, making her look like it was pregnant with
her.
This could be a good reason why we don't see many skeletons around
though. :-)
Hunter
Nov 15, 2012, 4:35:18 PM11/15/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:08:23 -0500, shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com>
Technically it was LOL!!
wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:55:17 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <atropos-FAA90B...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
>> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <46q1a8pq8uet4e8dd...@4ax.com>,
>>> shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
>>> > fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
>>> > earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
>>> > more.
>>>
>>> I thought that was the bullet that Carl shot into her
>>
>>Yes
>
>It was the bullet but I would never have known that except that they
>mentioned it on Talking Dead. I couldn't tell what it was other than
>it was small and it meant something to Rick. That's why I figured it
>was something of Lori's.
----
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:55:17 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <atropos-FAA90B...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
>> BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <46q1a8pq8uet4e8dd...@4ax.com>,
>>> shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I thought they had made it pretty obvious that was a walker that had
>>> > fed on Lori. Notice how he found something in Lori's remains (an
>>> > earring or something else?) and so he dug into the walker to find
>>> > more.
>>>
>>> I thought that was the bullet that Carl shot into her
>>
>>Yes
>
>It was the bullet but I would never have known that except that they
>mentioned it on Talking Dead. I couldn't tell what it was other than
>it was small and it meant something to Rick. That's why I figured it
>was something of Lori's.
Technically it was LOL!!
Hunter
Nov 17, 2012, 12:33:13 AM11/17/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:45:41 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:
>In article <50a37c79...@news.optonline.net>, buffh...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:31:02 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:
>>>> Ubiquitous
>
>>>> Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
>>>> about the caged walkers she discovered
>>>
>>>She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
>>>the zombie gladiator arena.
>>
>>Actually she would've belived her if she did because The Govenor did
>>tell Andrea about Michonne's target practice on the capitive biters.
>
>I don't think he mentioned them being walkers, implying she attacked his men.
-----
He did tell Andrea they were Walkers, except the local slang for them
is "Biters":
"The Walking Dead" "Say the Word" (S3XE5):
[The Governor opens the door to his office on a caller he was
expecting]
Andrea: What's wrong? Miles said it was urgent
The Governor [closes the door] Need your help.... It's Michonne.
Andrea: What about her?
TG: She broke in, stole her weapon....
Andrea: She can't steal something that's hers:
TG: ....then she went into a private place and slaughtered half a
dozen captive Biters.
Andrea [stunned for a moment]: Why would you have "captive Biters"?
TG [walking away to lean/sit on his desk] There's a good reason I
don't want to go into it right now
Andrea [a bit dubious]: OOOkaaay...
TG: Point is I tried to talk to her about it and she pulled a sword on
me. Held it to my throat. Can't imagine that surprises you.
Andrea: She wouldnt do that unless she felt threatened.
*******
Then in the very next scene Andrea said to Michonne:
"The Governor told me what happened."
Michonne didn't deny it, just stressed strongly that they had to get
out of there.
So Andrea knew and believed that Michonne did what The Governor
accused Michonne of. I think Andrea wasn't that shocked that some
people would have Walkers in captivity after the Hershel example. She
wasn't going to let that idiosyncrasy prevent her from joining some
semblance of civilization.
Mind you I haven't read all of the comics but it has been alluded that
The Governor was a child molester in the comics along with him being a
more obvious villain to the other characters.
I was never a Lori hater so....
Yes I remember that too. The guy who hung himself. His lower skeletons
were apparently being held together by the remaining tendons. I doubt
that would happen in real life but I think the writers were going for
dramatic license then.
Yes.
wrote:
>In article <50a37c79...@news.optonline.net>, buffh...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:31:02 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak <esta...@att.net> wrote:
>>>> Ubiquitous
>
>>>> Am I correct in thinking that Michonne never told Andrea
>>>> about the caged walkers she discovered
>>>
>>>She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
>>>the zombie gladiator arena.
>>
>>Actually she would've belived her if she did because The Govenor did
>>tell Andrea about Michonne's target practice on the capitive biters.
>
>I don't think he mentioned them being walkers, implying she attacked his men.
He did tell Andrea they were Walkers, except the local slang for them
is "Biters":
"The Walking Dead" "Say the Word" (S3XE5):
[The Governor opens the door to his office on a caller he was
expecting]
Andrea: What's wrong? Miles said it was urgent
The Governor [closes the door] Need your help.... It's Michonne.
Andrea: What about her?
TG: She broke in, stole her weapon....
Andrea: She can't steal something that's hers:
TG: ....then she went into a private place and slaughtered half a
dozen captive Biters.
Andrea [stunned for a moment]: Why would you have "captive Biters"?
TG [walking away to lean/sit on his desk] There's a good reason I
don't want to go into it right now
Andrea [a bit dubious]: OOOkaaay...
TG: Point is I tried to talk to her about it and she pulled a sword on
me. Held it to my throat. Can't imagine that surprises you.
Andrea: She wouldnt do that unless she felt threatened.
*******
Then in the very next scene Andrea said to Michonne:
"The Governor told me what happened."
Michonne didn't deny it, just stressed strongly that they had to get
out of there.
So Andrea knew and believed that Michonne did what The Governor
accused Michonne of. I think Andrea wasn't that shocked that some
people would have Walkers in captivity after the Hershel example. She
wasn't going to let that idiosyncrasy prevent her from joining some
semblance of civilization.
>
>>>> The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
>>>> leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>>>> thing for little girls.
>>>
>>>I thought the list had both male and female names?
>>
>>Yes they did, and we don't know if they or any were children, except
>>his own daughter Penny. And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't
>>make him a child molester.
>
>Perhaps I am thinking of something I heard about the comic?
-----
>>>> The Governor's diary seemed to be full of little girl's names,
>>>> leading to me to think he could be a child molester with a
>>>> thing for little girls.
>>>
>>>I thought the list had both male and female names?
>>
>>Yes they did, and we don't know if they or any were children, except
>>his own daughter Penny. And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't
>>make him a child molester.
>
>Perhaps I am thinking of something I heard about the comic?
Mind you I haven't read all of the comics but it has been alluded that
The Governor was a child molester in the comics along with him being a
more obvious villain to the other characters.
>
>>>> the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
>>>> who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
>>>> I have problems with that
>>>
>>>Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
>>>her bones!) into its stomach?
>>
>>EXACTLY!
>
>How did it manage to eat something so bitter?
-----
>>>> the director explained that it was sppsd to be a walker
>>>> who had feasted on Lori's remains to the point of immobility.
>>>> I have problems with that
>>>
>>>Indeed, how the hell did it fit 130 lbs worth of Lori (including
>>>her bones!) into its stomach?
>>
>>EXACTLY!
>
>How did it manage to eat something so bitter?
I was never a Lori hater so....
>
>>>Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they had
>>>wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
>>
>>That would be a workable scenerio but do Walkers eat bone?
>
>If memory serves, Daryl and Andrea found a guy who hung himself and whose legs
>were eaten by Walkers, leaving behind skeletal remains of his legs. I
>conjectured that there were more than one Walker who found Lori's body and tore
>it apart and wandered off, leaving their friend behind in a feeding torpir.
-----
>>>Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they had
>>>wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
>>
>>That would be a workable scenerio but do Walkers eat bone?
>
>If memory serves, Daryl and Andrea found a guy who hung himself and whose legs
>were eaten by Walkers, leaving behind skeletal remains of his legs. I
>conjectured that there were more than one Walker who found Lori's body and tore
>it apart and wandered off, leaving their friend behind in a feeding torpir.
Yes I remember that too. The guy who hung himself. His lower skeletons
were apparently being held together by the remaining tendons. I doubt
that would happen in real life but I think the writers were going for
dramatic license then.
>
>>>> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
>>>
>>>We did see Merle pulling the teeth from the zombies they
>>>had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
>>>one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
>>
>>Not that I saw but if there was it was a production mistake.
>
>I think someone on The Talking Dead said they were sppsd to be toothless but
>messed up the CGI.
-----
>>>> Did those walkers look toothless to you?
>>>
>>>We did see Merle pulling the teeth from the zombies they
>>>had caught in the pit trap but I could swear that at least
>>>one of the zombies in the arena still had its teeth?
>>
>>Not that I saw but if there was it was a production mistake.
>
>I think someone on The Talking Dead said they were sppsd to be toothless but
>messed up the CGI.
Yes.
Hunter
Nov 17, 2012, 2:48:28 AM11/17/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:35:30 -0800 (PST), Ed Stasiak
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hunter
>> > Ed Stasiak
>> >
>> > She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
>> > the zombie gladiator arena.
>>
>> Actually she would've belived her if she did
>
>Michonne _did_ tell Andrea but she didn't believe her.
-----
<esta...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hunter
>> > Ed Stasiak
>> >
>> > She told her but Andrea didn't believe her, until she saw
>> > the zombie gladiator arena.
>>
>> Actually she would've belived her if she did
>
>Michonne _did_ tell Andrea but she didn't believe her.
Actually Michonne never mentioned it but the Governor in the scene
immediately before the scene of Michonne packing told Andrea about the
captive Biters Michone rekilled. That is why Andrea said to Michonne
"The Governor told me what you did". Michonne didn't deny it. Instead
Andrea wanted to show that what Michonne was doing was wrong and that
they should stay and Michonne was giving Andrea nothing to back up her
suspicions. Michonne desperately wanted to go, Andrea desperately
wanted to stay.
>
>> > I thought the list had both male and female names?
>>
>> And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't make him a child
>> molester.
>
>Agreed, in the comic the Governor is a pedo but it looks
>like AMC dropped that aspect (for the better IMO, as the
>comic Governor was too over-the-top).
-----
>> > I thought the list had both male and female names?
>>
>> And even if tthey were all kids it doesn't make him a child
>> molester.
>
>Agreed, in the comic the Governor is a pedo but it looks
>like AMC dropped that aspect (for the better IMO, as the
>comic Governor was too over-the-top).
If he is it has been made less obvious.
>
>> > Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they
>> > had wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
>>
>> That would be a workable scenerio but do Walkers eat bone?
>
>No, human teeth and jaw muscles aren't strong enough
>(even zombified) to crush bone.
----
>> > Perhaps other zombies helped consumer her and they
>> > had wandered off by the time Rick showed up?
>>
>> That would be a workable scenerio but do Walkers eat bone?
>
>No, human teeth and jaw muscles aren't strong enough
>(even zombified) to crush bone.
As I thought, especially the leg bones.
>
>> BTW that was a cool solar powered noise making walker trap.
>
>I thought it was a vertical wind turbine generator at first.
----
>> BTW that was a cool solar powered noise making walker trap.
>
>I thought it was a vertical wind turbine generator at first.
Not howling like that. I am surprised there aren't hundreds of Walkers
around it.
>
>I'd think several "tiger traps" like that a few miles outside
>of Woodbury would help in securing the countryside, which
>they'll need to get going on if they're to start farming.
-----
>I'd think several "tiger traps" like that a few miles outside
>of Woodbury would help in securing the countryside, which
>they'll need to get going on if they're to start farming.
Can't be done. because it would take thousands and thousands of pits.
A more practical method would be to reclaim and then fence off
hundreds of arcers of land but this will take years
Ed Stasiak
Nov 17, 2012, 10:14:59 AM11/17/12
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> Hunter
> > Ed Stasiak
Sure it can.
> because it would take thousands and thousands of pits.
No, just a handful of strategically placed pits along select
back roads, not a moat completely surrounding Woodbury.
The goal would be to minimize the area in need of constant
patrolling, allowing the mobile zombie defense teams to
concentrate on the areas where farming needs to take place.
> A more practical method would be to reclaim and then fence
> off hundreds of arcers of land but this will take years
The trick would be to start small and gradually fence in more
and more area, spiraling out from the initial farm and inclosing
more area as needed.
There are literally miles of chain-link fencing available that
could be nailed up to telephone poles and trees to create
secure farming enclosures.
Which will also protect the crops from the huge herds of
ravenous deer until they die-back to sustainable levels.
> > Ed Stasiak
> >
> > I'd think several "tiger traps" like that a few miles outside
> > of Woodbury would help in securing the countryside, which
> > they'll need to get going on if they're to start farming.
>
> Can't be done.
> > I'd think several "tiger traps" like that a few miles outside
> > of Woodbury would help in securing the countryside, which
> > they'll need to get going on if they're to start farming.
>
Sure it can.
> because it would take thousands and thousands of pits.
back roads, not a moat completely surrounding Woodbury.
The goal would be to minimize the area in need of constant
patrolling, allowing the mobile zombie defense teams to
concentrate on the areas where farming needs to take place.
> A more practical method would be to reclaim and then fence
> off hundreds of arcers of land but this will take years
and more area, spiraling out from the initial farm and inclosing
more area as needed.
There are literally miles of chain-link fencing available that
could be nailed up to telephone poles and trees to create
secure farming enclosures.
Which will also protect the crops from the huge herds of
ravenous deer until they die-back to sustainable levels.
Captain Infinity
Nov 17, 2012, 11:08:58 PM11/17/12
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Once Upon A Time,
cloud dreamer wrote:
>On 13/11/2012 5:32 PM, Barry Margolin wrote:
>> In article <50a2b240...@news.optonline.net>,
>> Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>>
>>> I believe in the possibility-because I find the "crime scene"
>>> suspicious- that *someone* found Lori and got her to the infirmery and
>>> called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating). Other people could
>>> be alive in other wings.
>>
>> Even though the director of the episode told us on Talking Dead that she
>> was eaten by the zombie that Rick found?
>>
>
>
>Which was why that zombie was bloated.
>
>I don't remember the director saying that, but I was distracted for part
>of the show.
If you increase your dose of Zyprexa a little it will probably soften some of
the voices in your head long enough for you to pay attention.
**
Captain Infinity
cloud dreamer wrote:
>On 13/11/2012 5:32 PM, Barry Margolin wrote:
>> In article <50a2b240...@news.optonline.net>,
>> Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>>
>>> I believe in the possibility-because I find the "crime scene"
>>> called Rick (I don't think he was hallucinating). Other people could
>>> be alive in other wings.
>>
>> Even though the director of the episode told us on Talking Dead that she
>> was eaten by the zombie that Rick found?
>>
>
>
>Which was why that zombie was bloated.
>
>I don't remember the director saying that, but I was distracted for part
>of the show.
If you increase your dose of Zyprexa a little it will probably soften some of
the voices in your head long enough for you to pay attention.
**
Captain Infinity
Captain Infinity
Nov 17, 2012, 11:15:12 PM11/17/12
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Once Upon A Time,
Hunter wrote:
>Actually we don't know if they are all kids except his daughter Penny.
>But I don't think he iis a child molester but trying to save people,
>maybe children.
In the comic, the Governor removed all the teeth from his daughter's mouth so
that he could get himself some incestual pedophiliac zombie blowjobs.
**
Captain Infinity
Hunter wrote:
>Actually we don't know if they are all kids except his daughter Penny.
>But I don't think he iis a child molester but trying to save people,
>maybe children.
In the comic, the Governor removed all the teeth from his daughter's mouth so
that he could get himself some incestual pedophiliac zombie blowjobs.
**
Captain Infinity
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