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Ubiquitous
Oct 14, 2012, 5:33:44 AM10/14/12
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I watched:
TMC UNDERGROUND:
"The Born Losers"/
Having stumped without success to sell their screenplay Billy Jack, Tom
Laughlin and Delores Taylor dropped their half-breed hero into the
middle of a quickly-written script tailored for the exploitation market.
With the success of Roger Corman's The Wild Angels (1966), biker flicks
were all the rage and more than a few bright lights of the nascent New
Hollywood toiled in the requisite leathers and dirty denim. The Born
Losers came early in the cycle, in the boom year of 1967, alongside
Hells Angels on Wheels with Jack Nicholson and Devil's Angels with John
Cassavetes. Its unexpected success that summer wrought The Glory
Stompers (1968) with Dennis Hopper, The Cycle Savages (1969) with Bruce
Dern, The Rebel Rousers (1970) with Dern and Nicholson, and Angel
Unchained (1970) with Don Stroud, to name but a few titles in this
surprisingly expansive subgenre.
Based on a pair of high profile 1964 news items - the slaying of New
York bar manager Kitty Genovese and the Hells Angels alleged
intimidation of teenaged rape victims in Monterey ? The Born Losers was
distributed by American International Pictures and wound up being their
biggest moneymaker until The Amityville Horror (1979) a decade later.
Despite its basis in fact, the film quotes from the granddaddy of all
biker films, The Wild One (1953) before branching out to straddle the
rape/revenge/vigilante drama typified by Walking Tall (1973) and Death
Wish (1974). With minor alterations, The Born Losers could easily have
been rewritten as a standard western, with Billy Jack recast as the
archetypal Outsider who must defend Civilization from the caprices of
Disorder. Back in the day, its seemingly reactionary civic mindedness
was no doubt good for business.
Independently financed by Laughlin and Taylor for $150,000, The Born
Losers ran out of money mid-production and was rescued by Samuel Arkoff
and American International Pictures, who put up $300,000 to finish the
film. The San Fernando motorcycle club The Devil's Disciples filled out
the ranks of the film's make-believe gang and extra motorcycles were
loaned out by Sears, which Laughlin hid behind the Harleys.
Although Jane Russell was contracted to work for one day only, Laughlin
was forced to shut down production for ten days when he suffered a burst
appendix. In order to get the proper emotion out of Russell for one
scene, Laughlin called for a meal break just before shooting it, hoping
the delay would drive the actress into a rage. The ploy worked and
Russell thanked Laughlin, calling him a "clever son of a bitch."
Its box office success cuts The Born Losers little slack from cult movie
aficionados, churlish over the film's association with the
mega-successful Billy Jack (1971) and its preachy sequels, The Trial of
Billy Jack (1974) and Billy Jack Goes to Washington (1977). To this day,
kung fu fans remain chuffed that Tom Laughlin was doubled for all
displays of hapkido by karate master Bong Soo Han. On the performance
front, Laughlin has also taken his share of lumps for his stoic acting
style. However studied in Steve McQueen cool, Laughlin pulls it off and
is an engaging and understated leading man ? particularly in The Born
Losers, which isn't as weighed down, as were the subsequent Billy Jack
films, with the burden of Importance.
The Born Losers has aged better than a number of the subgenre's
"classics." A central concern with the value of family haunts the
script, which opens not with the Born Losers riding into a strange town
to wreak havoc but returning to the hometown of leader Danny Carmody
(Jeremy Slate), with whom Billy has some past history of unnamed
grievances. Although he is the villain of the piece, Danny is nicely
shaded as a charismatic group leader, surprisingly slow to retaliate
against a teen driver whose VW bug bumps his bike until the idiot
unwisely lips off. Later, Danny saves his kid brother from a beating by
their brutish father and is also shown to keep a wife and son in a
conventional (and seemingly happy) suburban home. However sociopathic,
the Losers represent the film's only functional family while Billy Jack
and sardonic heroine Vicky Barrington (Elizabeth James, spending half
the film in an Ursula Andress white bikini) are depicted as alienated,
disenfranchised, going it alone and suffering for it. However heroically
etched, Billy has given up on life and it takes the Born Losers to draw
him out.
THE WALKING DEAD:
A marathon of both seasons.
BATMAN:
Batman and Robin go to "Londinium" for some contrived reason and Batgirl
tows along.It was so lame I don't recall who the villians were, but
there was an amusing scene of them attempting to exposition how Batman's
stuff was brought to England when Bruce Wayne told so-and-so that in
order to keep Dick Grayson from falling behind in his studies, Bruce had
his desk and school materials crated for the trip, prompting Dick to say
something unenthusiastic about being able to study while on vacation.
LOST IN SPACE
"The Phantom People". This one was retarded, even for a webTV user!
After seeing the Robinsons, sans the parents who are away in the
space-chariot (see how cool things sound prefixed with "space"!) being
"bombarded" every night for a week, we discover an alien motivations
speaker is behind it who plans to replace the Robinsons with androids
who will learn how to act like them and then inspire his clients with
their bravery and ability to survive challenges. Wait, what? Naturally,
the Dr Smith one is broken so while the others are acting like the star
of Small Wonder, he is not even that good.
THE VENTURE BROTHERS:
"Showdown at Cremation Creek (Part 1)". The Monarch and Dr Girlfriend
get married.and Rusty Venture is best man. Bwah! I never saw this one
before and it tied up a lot of loose ends.
What did you watch?
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
TMC UNDERGROUND:
"The Born Losers"/
Having stumped without success to sell their screenplay Billy Jack, Tom
Laughlin and Delores Taylor dropped their half-breed hero into the
middle of a quickly-written script tailored for the exploitation market.
With the success of Roger Corman's The Wild Angels (1966), biker flicks
were all the rage and more than a few bright lights of the nascent New
Hollywood toiled in the requisite leathers and dirty denim. The Born
Losers came early in the cycle, in the boom year of 1967, alongside
Hells Angels on Wheels with Jack Nicholson and Devil's Angels with John
Cassavetes. Its unexpected success that summer wrought The Glory
Stompers (1968) with Dennis Hopper, The Cycle Savages (1969) with Bruce
Dern, The Rebel Rousers (1970) with Dern and Nicholson, and Angel
Unchained (1970) with Don Stroud, to name but a few titles in this
surprisingly expansive subgenre.
Based on a pair of high profile 1964 news items - the slaying of New
York bar manager Kitty Genovese and the Hells Angels alleged
intimidation of teenaged rape victims in Monterey ? The Born Losers was
distributed by American International Pictures and wound up being their
biggest moneymaker until The Amityville Horror (1979) a decade later.
Despite its basis in fact, the film quotes from the granddaddy of all
biker films, The Wild One (1953) before branching out to straddle the
rape/revenge/vigilante drama typified by Walking Tall (1973) and Death
Wish (1974). With minor alterations, The Born Losers could easily have
been rewritten as a standard western, with Billy Jack recast as the
archetypal Outsider who must defend Civilization from the caprices of
Disorder. Back in the day, its seemingly reactionary civic mindedness
was no doubt good for business.
Independently financed by Laughlin and Taylor for $150,000, The Born
Losers ran out of money mid-production and was rescued by Samuel Arkoff
and American International Pictures, who put up $300,000 to finish the
film. The San Fernando motorcycle club The Devil's Disciples filled out
the ranks of the film's make-believe gang and extra motorcycles were
loaned out by Sears, which Laughlin hid behind the Harleys.
Although Jane Russell was contracted to work for one day only, Laughlin
was forced to shut down production for ten days when he suffered a burst
appendix. In order to get the proper emotion out of Russell for one
scene, Laughlin called for a meal break just before shooting it, hoping
the delay would drive the actress into a rage. The ploy worked and
Russell thanked Laughlin, calling him a "clever son of a bitch."
Its box office success cuts The Born Losers little slack from cult movie
aficionados, churlish over the film's association with the
mega-successful Billy Jack (1971) and its preachy sequels, The Trial of
Billy Jack (1974) and Billy Jack Goes to Washington (1977). To this day,
kung fu fans remain chuffed that Tom Laughlin was doubled for all
displays of hapkido by karate master Bong Soo Han. On the performance
front, Laughlin has also taken his share of lumps for his stoic acting
style. However studied in Steve McQueen cool, Laughlin pulls it off and
is an engaging and understated leading man ? particularly in The Born
Losers, which isn't as weighed down, as were the subsequent Billy Jack
films, with the burden of Importance.
The Born Losers has aged better than a number of the subgenre's
"classics." A central concern with the value of family haunts the
script, which opens not with the Born Losers riding into a strange town
to wreak havoc but returning to the hometown of leader Danny Carmody
(Jeremy Slate), with whom Billy has some past history of unnamed
grievances. Although he is the villain of the piece, Danny is nicely
shaded as a charismatic group leader, surprisingly slow to retaliate
against a teen driver whose VW bug bumps his bike until the idiot
unwisely lips off. Later, Danny saves his kid brother from a beating by
their brutish father and is also shown to keep a wife and son in a
conventional (and seemingly happy) suburban home. However sociopathic,
the Losers represent the film's only functional family while Billy Jack
and sardonic heroine Vicky Barrington (Elizabeth James, spending half
the film in an Ursula Andress white bikini) are depicted as alienated,
disenfranchised, going it alone and suffering for it. However heroically
etched, Billy has given up on life and it takes the Born Losers to draw
him out.
THE WALKING DEAD:
A marathon of both seasons.
BATMAN:
Batman and Robin go to "Londinium" for some contrived reason and Batgirl
tows along.It was so lame I don't recall who the villians were, but
there was an amusing scene of them attempting to exposition how Batman's
stuff was brought to England when Bruce Wayne told so-and-so that in
order to keep Dick Grayson from falling behind in his studies, Bruce had
his desk and school materials crated for the trip, prompting Dick to say
something unenthusiastic about being able to study while on vacation.
LOST IN SPACE
"The Phantom People". This one was retarded, even for a webTV user!
After seeing the Robinsons, sans the parents who are away in the
space-chariot (see how cool things sound prefixed with "space"!) being
"bombarded" every night for a week, we discover an alien motivations
speaker is behind it who plans to replace the Robinsons with androids
who will learn how to act like them and then inspire his clients with
their bravery and ability to survive challenges. Wait, what? Naturally,
the Dr Smith one is broken so while the others are acting like the star
of Small Wonder, he is not even that good.
THE VENTURE BROTHERS:
"Showdown at Cremation Creek (Part 1)". The Monarch and Dr Girlfriend
get married.and Rusty Venture is best man. Bwah! I never saw this one
before and it tied up a lot of loose ends.
What did you watch?
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
anim8rFSK
Oct 14, 2012, 11:07:31 AM10/14/12
to
In article <k5e10v$m5h$1...@dont-email.me>,
> there was an amusing scene of them attempting to exposition how Batman's
> stuff was brought to England when Bruce Wayne told so-and-so that in
> order to keep Dick Grayson from falling behind in his studies, Bruce had
> his desk and school materials crated for the trip, prompting Dick to say
> something unenthusiastic about being able to study while on vacation.
The box full of Dick's study aides actually contained the Batmobile and
about half the Batcave.
I left ME-TV on all night. Svengoolie cut the BATMAN movie to ribbons,
but at least he apologized for it at every break. The FX in Star Trek
'The Enterprise Incident' were awful and flat out wrong. Voyage had
another horrible Peter Packer episode with a giant sea spider - this one
is a hoot because Richard Basehart isn't really in it, but they have a
body double doing stuff like starting to enter a room and leaving again
before you can see his face! And then Get Smart with special guest Don
Rickles ...
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> BATMAN:
> Batman and Robin go to "Londinium" for some contrived reason and Batgirl
> tows along.It was so lame I don't recall who the villians were, but
Lord Marmaduke Ffogg and his sister, Lady Penelope Peasoup
> BATMAN:
> Batman and Robin go to "Londinium" for some contrived reason and Batgirl
> tows along.It was so lame I don't recall who the villians were, but
> there was an amusing scene of them attempting to exposition how Batman's
> stuff was brought to England when Bruce Wayne told so-and-so that in
> order to keep Dick Grayson from falling behind in his studies, Bruce had
> his desk and school materials crated for the trip, prompting Dick to say
> something unenthusiastic about being able to study while on vacation.
about half the Batcave.
>
> LOST IN SPACE
> "The Phantom People". This one was retarded, even for a webTV user!
> After seeing the Robinsons, sans the parents who are away in the
> space-chariot (see how cool things sound prefixed with "space"!) being
> "bombarded" every night for a week, we discover an alien motivations
> speaker is behind it who plans to replace the Robinsons with androids
> who will learn how to act like them and then inspire his clients with
> their bravery and ability to survive challenges. Wait, what? Naturally,
> the Dr Smith one is broken so while the others are acting like the star
> of Small Wonder, he is not even that good.
>
>
> What did you watch?
> LOST IN SPACE
> "The Phantom People". This one was retarded, even for a webTV user!
> After seeing the Robinsons, sans the parents who are away in the
> space-chariot (see how cool things sound prefixed with "space"!) being
> "bombarded" every night for a week, we discover an alien motivations
> speaker is behind it who plans to replace the Robinsons with androids
> who will learn how to act like them and then inspire his clients with
> their bravery and ability to survive challenges. Wait, what? Naturally,
> the Dr Smith one is broken so while the others are acting like the star
> of Small Wonder, he is not even that good.
>
>
I left ME-TV on all night. Svengoolie cut the BATMAN movie to ribbons,
but at least he apologized for it at every break. The FX in Star Trek
'The Enterprise Incident' were awful and flat out wrong. Voyage had
another horrible Peter Packer episode with a giant sea spider - this one
is a hoot because Richard Basehart isn't really in it, but they have a
body double doing stuff like starting to enter a room and leaving again
before you can see his face! And then Get Smart with special guest Don
Rickles ...
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Ian J. Ball
Oct 14, 2012, 12:10:32 PM10/14/12
to
> What did you watch?
Yesterday was really bad - most of my usual "movie" channels were
showing crap, or retreads... :(
Vlad (Chiller) - I'm pretty sure this ran on Siffy Saturday a few years
back, and at that time I think I only saw the beginning of it. This
time, I decided to watch the whole thing. The only people in this anyone
would know are Billy Zane, and maybe Canadian actor Paul Popowich (seen
recently in "Degrassi" just last season), soap actress Kam Heskin, and
Francesco Quinn.
Anyway, for a Siffy Saturday-type flick, I actually thought this was
a cut above - it had a relatively easy to follow story, and actually
sported a few beautifully-filmed shots (basically during the flashbacks
to when Vlad, and cutie Anglo-Saxon princess Ilona (Iva Hasperger) were
alive).
college football - I saw some of the UCLA game vs. Utah (which UCLA
eventually won).
The Killing Jar (recorded) - I recorded this off Chiller a few nights
ago, and it was definitely better than the 1-star my cable guide rated
it. Michael Madsen plays the usual 'heavy' who goes on a killing spree
and takes a diner, including diner waitress Amber Benson, hostage (also
among the hostages? Harold Perrineau). Anyway, this has some twists and
turns along the way, and though it's probably too meandering and 'talky'
in parts, overall I liked it.
Victorious (NICK) - This episode I highly enjoyed: this show is usually
at its best when its either Jade interacting with Tori, or Jade
interacting with Cat, and this episode had lots of the latter. (Fun
aside: This episode sported Liz Gillies doing a *dead-on* impersonation
of Ariana Grande doing Cat, which was LOL funny.) Even the 'B' plot,
involving Robbie and Andre, which started slow, started getting good
around the time Andre started talking about beating Robbie with a
baseball bat! He he he...
Aside: For the first time in ages (prol'ly since season #2...), this
episode was absent Trina.
How To Rock (NICK) - Does this show have a directive that no one else
besides Cymphonique Miller is allowed to sing?! In this one, _Gravity 5_
and _The Perfs_ are forced to work together as a band, and not only does
Halston Sage *still* not get to sing, but this time even Samantha
Boscarino isn't allowed to sing either (how is this a "merging" of the
bands if Molly doesn't even get to sing!?!), even though we know we can
from "Good Luck Charlie". Grrrr...
ASIDE: So I now have a theory on why NICK is unloading the above two
shows (unloading "Victorious" is especially inexplicable...) - I think
NICK has concluded that they're "skewing too old" demographically, esp.
relative to Disney Channel, and so has decided to unload their entire
teen audience to chase the same 2-10 year olds that Disney is obviously
going after (e.g. see: ANT Farm, and Jessie). Personally, I think that's
a really stupid move on NICK's part, but... whatever.
American Horror House (Siffy Saturday) - I only saw the last hour of
this, but I thought this was pretty good for Siffy Saturday: it was
plenty gory enough, and actually (like "Vlad"!) sported a relatively
decent storyline. Of course, however, the ending sucked, but that's
starting to be expected with most horror movies these days.
Recorded for later: Hex.
--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!
Yesterday was really bad - most of my usual "movie" channels were
showing crap, or retreads... :(
Vlad (Chiller) - I'm pretty sure this ran on Siffy Saturday a few years
back, and at that time I think I only saw the beginning of it. This
time, I decided to watch the whole thing. The only people in this anyone
would know are Billy Zane, and maybe Canadian actor Paul Popowich (seen
recently in "Degrassi" just last season), soap actress Kam Heskin, and
Francesco Quinn.
Anyway, for a Siffy Saturday-type flick, I actually thought this was
a cut above - it had a relatively easy to follow story, and actually
sported a few beautifully-filmed shots (basically during the flashbacks
to when Vlad, and cutie Anglo-Saxon princess Ilona (Iva Hasperger) were
alive).
college football - I saw some of the UCLA game vs. Utah (which UCLA
eventually won).
The Killing Jar (recorded) - I recorded this off Chiller a few nights
ago, and it was definitely better than the 1-star my cable guide rated
it. Michael Madsen plays the usual 'heavy' who goes on a killing spree
and takes a diner, including diner waitress Amber Benson, hostage (also
among the hostages? Harold Perrineau). Anyway, this has some twists and
turns along the way, and though it's probably too meandering and 'talky'
in parts, overall I liked it.
Victorious (NICK) - This episode I highly enjoyed: this show is usually
at its best when its either Jade interacting with Tori, or Jade
interacting with Cat, and this episode had lots of the latter. (Fun
aside: This episode sported Liz Gillies doing a *dead-on* impersonation
of Ariana Grande doing Cat, which was LOL funny.) Even the 'B' plot,
involving Robbie and Andre, which started slow, started getting good
around the time Andre started talking about beating Robbie with a
baseball bat! He he he...
Aside: For the first time in ages (prol'ly since season #2...), this
episode was absent Trina.
How To Rock (NICK) - Does this show have a directive that no one else
besides Cymphonique Miller is allowed to sing?! In this one, _Gravity 5_
and _The Perfs_ are forced to work together as a band, and not only does
Halston Sage *still* not get to sing, but this time even Samantha
Boscarino isn't allowed to sing either (how is this a "merging" of the
bands if Molly doesn't even get to sing!?!), even though we know we can
from "Good Luck Charlie". Grrrr...
ASIDE: So I now have a theory on why NICK is unloading the above two
shows (unloading "Victorious" is especially inexplicable...) - I think
NICK has concluded that they're "skewing too old" demographically, esp.
relative to Disney Channel, and so has decided to unload their entire
teen audience to chase the same 2-10 year olds that Disney is obviously
going after (e.g. see: ANT Farm, and Jessie). Personally, I think that's
a really stupid move on NICK's part, but... whatever.
American Horror House (Siffy Saturday) - I only saw the last hour of
this, but I thought this was pretty good for Siffy Saturday: it was
plenty gory enough, and actually (like "Vlad"!) sported a relatively
decent storyline. Of course, however, the ending sucked, but that's
starting to be expected with most horror movies these days.
Recorded for later: Hex.
--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!
Arthur Lipscomb
Oct 14, 2012, 12:50:41 PM10/14/12
to
On 10/14/2012 9:10 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> In article <k5e10v$m5h$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>
> In article <k5e10v$m5h$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>
> American Horror House (Siffy Saturday) - I only saw the last hour of
> this, but I thought this was pretty good for Siffy Saturday:
Agreed.
> this, but I thought this was pretty good for Siffy Saturday:
it was
> plenty gory enough,
and actually (like "Vlad"!) sported a relatively
> decent storyline. Of course, however, the ending sucked, but that's
> starting to be expected with most horror movies these days.
or 3 minutes given how obvious it was by that point.
>
> Recorded for later: Hex.
>
I had to reluctantly delete Hex unwatched. My DVR's capacity is in the
70s. At this point, I'm basically in triage and tough choices must be made.
I watched:
The Haunting Hour – “Grampires” A brother and sister visit their
grandfather (Christopher Lloyd) in a retirement community and find that
he and everyone else there are vampires. It’s up to their “Grampire” to
keep them from being eaten by his hungry neighbors. This was one of the
worst episodes of The Haunting Hour ever. So the plan was to murder and
eat the kids the vamps didn’t think that would draw attention to
themselves? And given their community was apparently self-sufficient
why were they *so* eager to eat those kids anyway. Not that the kids
had much to be afraid of given the vamps dusted so ridiculously easily.
All they had to do was wave something pointy in their general
direction and they’d turn to dust.
That Guy Who Was in That Thing (Showtime) – Pretty good documentary
featuring various character actors (Xander Berkeley, Bruce Davison,
Timothy Omundson, Rick Worthy, Gregory Itzin, Zeljko Ivanek, etc.)
talking about their careers and what’s it’s like to be a famous
face/working actor in Hollywood. They were refreshingly candid about
how they’re treated (lack of respect and being forced to audition
despite their impressive resumes) by the studios. They included
interesting details like showing one of Zeljko's contracts which
specified the producers had to spell his name correctly; and how one
actor got fired and replaced for holding out for a single card credit.
There was also a fun segment about how everyone does Star Trek, often
multiple times across multiple shows.
Grimm “The Bottle Imp” – Based on the name I was expecting some kind of
genie but it turned out to be a standard procedural episode. It passed
the time.
Beauty and the Beast – This has already been talked to death. I’ll just
echo that Kristin Kreuk is not believable as a tough NYPD detective.
Law and Order SVU – “Twenty-Five Acts" In an episode ripped from the
best sellers list, Roger Bart plays a masochist on trial for assaulting
the author of a Fifty Shades of Grey type book. The episode would have
been better without an unnecessary subplot dealing with who wrote the book.
Prometheus (blu-ray) I actually sat through it again for the Ridley
Scott commentary track. I had questions I wanted answered (it literally
says on the cover, "Questions Will Be Answered" and I was willing to
suffer through it again to get those answers. First, you can skip the
37 minutes worth of deleted scenes because no questions are answered in
any of those. As to the commentary, Scott starts off the track by
talking about how he designed the alien spaceship to be
aerodynamic...I'll cut to the chase and say no questions were answered
on the commentary either. Although at a certain point Scott started to
rant about the studio trying to interfere and asking him questions about
the plot, which he found insulting given all the movies he's made and
how he has 3 films in the Library of Congress. Yes, he actually said
that. I won't bother with the writer's commentary. At this point I
don't care if it answers any questions.
The typical experience of someone watching Prometheus looking for answers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avXZVgzLP68
The Tall Man (Netflix Rental) Jessica Biel and Jodelle Ferland star in
this thriller about a town coping with the mysterious disappearance of
many of their children which is blamed on The Tall Man. The first hour,
while not good more or less held my interest and then seemed to wrap
everything up. But instead of ending, the movie kept going and going
and went from bad to worse.
anim8rFSK
Oct 14, 2012, 2:57:04 PM10/14/12
to
In article <k5eqh1$gqd$1...@dont-email.me>,
... answers questions.
Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> Prometheus (blu-ray) I actually sat through it again for the Ridley
> Scott commentary track. I had questions I wanted answered (it literally
> says on the cover, "Questions Will Be Answered" and I was willing to
> suffer through it again to get those answers. First, you can skip the
> 37 minutes worth of deleted scenes because no questions are answered in
> any of those. As to the commentary, Scott starts off the track by
> talking about how he designed the alien spaceship to be
> aerodynamic...I'll cut to the chase and say no questions were answered
> on the commentary either. Although at a certain point Scott started to
> rant about the studio trying to interfere and asking him questions about
> the plot, which he found insulting given all the movies he's made and
> how he has 3 films in the Library of Congress. Yes, he actually said
> that. I won't bother with the writer's commentary. At this point I
> don't care if it answers any questions.
This is the theatrical version? Supposedly the upcoming director's cut
> Prometheus (blu-ray) I actually sat through it again for the Ridley
> Scott commentary track. I had questions I wanted answered (it literally
> says on the cover, "Questions Will Be Answered" and I was willing to
> suffer through it again to get those answers. First, you can skip the
> 37 minutes worth of deleted scenes because no questions are answered in
> any of those. As to the commentary, Scott starts off the track by
> talking about how he designed the alien spaceship to be
> aerodynamic...I'll cut to the chase and say no questions were answered
> on the commentary either. Although at a certain point Scott started to
> rant about the studio trying to interfere and asking him questions about
> the plot, which he found insulting given all the movies he's made and
> how he has 3 films in the Library of Congress. Yes, he actually said
> that. I won't bother with the writer's commentary. At this point I
> don't care if it answers any questions.
... answers questions.
Obveeus
Oct 14, 2012, 3:44:29 PM10/14/12
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NASCAR: I endured what I feel is likely a marketing ploy (listening to DE
Jr. has a concussion drivel) and saw a good race that went right down to the
wire.
THE FIVE YEAR ENGAGEMENT: lots of not funny stuff in this Apatow comedy.
Jr. has a concussion drivel) and saw a good race that went right down to the
wire.
THE FIVE YEAR ENGAGEMENT: lots of not funny stuff in this Apatow comedy.
Ubiquitous
Oct 14, 2012, 5:03:40 PM10/14/12
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anim...@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> BATMAN:
>> Batman and Robin go to "Londinium" for some contrived reason and Batgirl
>> tows along.It was so lame I don't recall who the villians were, but
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> BATMAN:
>> Batman and Robin go to "Londinium" for some contrived reason and Batgirl
>> tows along.It was so lame I don't recall who the villians were, but
>> there was an amusing scene of them attempting to exposition how Batman's
>> stuff was brought to England when Bruce Wayne told so-and-so that in
>> order to keep Dick Grayson from falling behind in his studies, Bruce had
>> his desk and school materials crated for the trip, prompting Dick to say
>> something unenthusiastic about being able to study while on vacation.
>
>The box full of Dick's study aides actually contained the Batmobile and
>about half the Batcave.
Yeah, that's what I said, but it was funny that among Dick's study aids
>> stuff was brought to England when Bruce Wayne told so-and-so that in
>> order to keep Dick Grayson from falling behind in his studies, Bruce had
>> his desk and school materials crated for the trip, prompting Dick to say
>> something unenthusiastic about being able to study while on vacation.
>
>The box full of Dick's study aides actually contained the Batmobile and
>about half the Batcave.
included "biological samples". Umm, aren't there international laws about
that? ha ha
>> LOST IN SPACE
>> "The Phantom People". This one was retarded, even for a webTV user!
>> After seeing the Robinsons, sans the parents who are away in the
>> space-chariot (see how cool things sound prefixed with "space"!) being
>> "bombarded" every night for a week, we discover an alien motivations
>> speaker is behind it who plans to replace the Robinsons with androids
>> who will learn how to act like them and then inspire his clients with
>> their bravery and ability to survive challenges. Wait, what? Naturally,
>> the Dr Smith one is broken so while the others are acting like the star
>> of Small Wonder, he is not even that good.
>> What did you watch?
>
>I left ME-TV on all night. Svengoolie cut the BATMAN movie to ribbons,
>but at least he apologized for it at every break.
>Voyage had another horrible Peter Packer episode with a giant sea
>spider - this one is a hoot because Richard Basehart isn't really in it,
>but they have a body double doing stuff like starting to enter a room
>and leaving again before you can see his face!
Ubiquitous
Oct 14, 2012, 5:04:53 PM10/14/12
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ijball-...@mac.invalid wrote:
>The Killing Jar (recorded) - I recorded this off Chiller a few nights
>ago, and it was definitely better than the 1-star my cable guide rated
>it. Michael Madsen plays the usual 'heavy' who goes on a killing spree
>and takes a diner, including diner waitress Amber Benson, hostage (also
>among the hostages? Harold Perrineau). Anyway, this has some twists
>and turns along the way, and though it's probably too meandering and
>'talky' in parts, overall I liked it.
OK, so how did they derive the title?
>The Killing Jar (recorded) - I recorded this off Chiller a few nights
>ago, and it was definitely better than the 1-star my cable guide rated
>it. Michael Madsen plays the usual 'heavy' who goes on a killing spree
>and takes a diner, including diner waitress Amber Benson, hostage (also
>among the hostages? Harold Perrineau). Anyway, this has some twists
>and turns along the way, and though it's probably too meandering and
>'talky' in parts, overall I liked it.
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
David Barnett
Oct 14, 2012, 5:56:22 PM10/14/12
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In article <k5e10v$m5h$1...@dont-email.me>,
web...@polaris.net says...
>
> What did you watch?
On Sat Oct 13 I finally got around to watching the final
episodes of:
LEVERAGE: The Rundown Job/ The Frame-Up Job
WEEDS: It's Time (Parts 1 & 2)
It was interesting that they divided the casts for the
Leverage episodes. Other than that I found them only
average.
I liked the WEEDS 2-parter & the jump in time.
I did write a post elsewhere.
Yesterday morning, Sun Oct 14, I watched:
BOARDWALK EMPIRE: Nights in Ballygran/ Family Limitation,
& last night I watched:
666 PARK AVENUE: Murmurations
I did not think I would be watching any more of this show,
but as a poster said he was enjoying it & there were
captions this time...
I found it tolerable.
I did mention in a previous post that this second episode
would reference Hitchcock's movie The Birds, and it sure
did. Even Tippi Hedren was mentioned. IIRC the pest
exterminator was warned, and so he had to go tho he was
only doing his job.
The next episode, airing here today, is said to reference
"The Shining", which I don't think I saw..
This morning, Mon Oct 15, I am still watching:
GRIMM: The Bottle Imp
All I can say atm is that the little girl is cute. & the
writers teased the viewers re the memory returning.
--
David Barnett
web...@polaris.net says...
>
> What did you watch?
On Sat Oct 13 I finally got around to watching the final
episodes of:
LEVERAGE: The Rundown Job/ The Frame-Up Job
WEEDS: It's Time (Parts 1 & 2)
It was interesting that they divided the casts for the
Leverage episodes. Other than that I found them only
average.
I liked the WEEDS 2-parter & the jump in time.
I did write a post elsewhere.
Yesterday morning, Sun Oct 14, I watched:
BOARDWALK EMPIRE: Nights in Ballygran/ Family Limitation,
& last night I watched:
666 PARK AVENUE: Murmurations
I did not think I would be watching any more of this show,
but as a poster said he was enjoying it & there were
captions this time...
I found it tolerable.
I did mention in a previous post that this second episode
would reference Hitchcock's movie The Birds, and it sure
did. Even Tippi Hedren was mentioned. IIRC the pest
exterminator was warned, and so he had to go tho he was
only doing his job.
The next episode, airing here today, is said to reference
"The Shining", which I don't think I saw..
This morning, Mon Oct 15, I am still watching:
GRIMM: The Bottle Imp
All I can say atm is that the little girl is cute. & the
writers teased the viewers re the memory returning.
--
David Barnett
Ian J. Ball
Oct 14, 2012, 5:59:28 PM10/14/12
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On Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:05:05 PM UTC-7, Ubiquitous wrote:
> ijball-...@mac.invalid wrote:
>
> >The Killing Jar (recorded) - I recorded this off Chiller a few nights
> >ago, and it was definitely better than the 1-star my cable guide rated
> >it. Michael Madsen plays the usual 'heavy' who goes on a killing spree
> >and takes a diner, including diner waitress Amber Benson, hostage (also
> >among the hostages? Harold Perrineau). Anyway, this has some twists
> >and turns along the way, and though it's probably too meandering and
> >'talky' in parts, overall I liked it.
>
> OK, so how did they derive the title?
Perhaps because it was basically a 'bottle show' (i.e. it was contained to the diner the entire movie)?...
> ijball-...@mac.invalid wrote:
>
> >The Killing Jar (recorded) - I recorded this off Chiller a few nights
> >ago, and it was definitely better than the 1-star my cable guide rated
> >it. Michael Madsen plays the usual 'heavy' who goes on a killing spree
> >and takes a diner, including diner waitress Amber Benson, hostage (also
> >among the hostages? Harold Perrineau). Anyway, this has some twists
> >and turns along the way, and though it's probably too meandering and
> >'talky' in parts, overall I liked it.
>
> OK, so how did they derive the title?
Ian (One of the things that amused me about this flick is that Amber Benson was clearly the picture's lead, but I think she gets third billing... ;> )
David Barnett
Oct 14, 2012, 6:43:06 PM10/14/12
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In article <MPG.2ae5d61c5...@news.bigpond.com>,
dbar...@bigpond.net.au says...
PS: Finally finished watching GRIMM.
Couple of twists at the end.
Actress little girl cute, but not the character!
Now watching HOMELAND: The Smile
--
David Barnett
dbar...@bigpond.net.au says...
Couple of twists at the end.
Actress little girl cute, but not the character!
Now watching HOMELAND: The Smile
--
David Barnett
Arthur Lipscomb
Oct 14, 2012, 6:54:01 PM10/14/12
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deleted/alternate scenes?
SPOILERS
P
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E
R
S
Oddly enough several of the deleted scene would have made for a slightly
better movie especially towards the end. In the theatrical cut David
talks to the Engineer but he doesn't reply. In the deleted scenes he
does reply. This leads to another deleted scene where Elizabeth
questions David about what he was told and gives a *slightly* more
plausible reason for her decision to go to their home world. They cut
his responses to keep him "mysterious." Also in the theatrical version
the Engineer shows up out of nowhere then promptly comes to face to face
with a giant facehugger. In the alternate version, there's a brief
fight scene between Elizabeth and the Engineer before she maneuvers him
to the facehugger kill zone. They cut the fight scene because they
claimed it wasn't believable she could fight an Engineer. I don't see
why. First, she had an axe and second, she didn't kill him, she held
him off long enough for a giant facehugger to kill him.
Scott claims he's thinking about making a couple more sequels. Perhaps
questions will be answered then.
anim8rFSK
Oct 14, 2012, 8:57:18 PM10/14/12
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In article <MPG.2ae5eaf2a...@news.bigpond.com>,
Let us know if there's any nekkid nudity involving Morena Baccarin. A
time stamp would be nice too. :)
Let us know if there's any nekkid nudity involving Morena Baccarin. A
time stamp would be nice too. :)
Adam H. Kerman
Oct 15, 2012, 12:05:27 AM10/15/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>Now watching HOMELAND: The Smile
>Let us know if there's any nekkid nudity involving Morena Baccarin. A
>time stamp would be nice too. :)
Nynf, abg va gur svefg jrrx.
>David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>Now watching HOMELAND: The Smile
>Let us know if there's any nekkid nudity involving Morena Baccarin. A
>time stamp would be nice too. :)
anim8rFSK
Oct 15, 2012, 1:30:29 AM10/15/12
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Adam H. Kerman
Oct 15, 2012, 1:55:11 AM10/15/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>Now watching HOMELAND: The Smile
>>>Let us know if there's any nekkid nudity involving Morena Baccarin. A
>>>time stamp would be nice too. :)
>>Nynf, abg va gur svefg jrrx.
>:(
Va jrrx 3, n frk fprar ortvaf 8 zvahgrf va, ohg qnhtugre pbzrf ubzr naq
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>Now watching HOMELAND: The Smile
>>>Let us know if there's any nekkid nudity involving Morena Baccarin. A
>>>time stamp would be nice too. :)
>>Nynf, abg va gur svefg jrrx.
>:(
ehvaf vg orsber Zberan'f gbc vf erzbirq.
Ubiquitous
Oct 15, 2012, 4:20:01 AM10/15/12
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ijb...@mac.com wrote:
>On Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:05:05 PM UTC-7, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> ijball-...@mac.invalid wrote:
>>>The Killing Jar (recorded) - I recorded this off Chiller a few nights
>>>ago, and it was definitely better than the 1-star my cable guide rated
>>>it. Michael Madsen plays the usual 'heavy' who goes on a killing spree
>>>and takes a diner, including diner waitress Amber Benson, hostage (also
>>>among the hostages? Harold Perrineau). Anyway, this has some twists
>>>and turns along the way, and though it's probably too meandering and
>>>'talky' in parts, overall I liked it.
>>
>> OK, so how did they derive the title?
>
>Perhaps because it was basically a 'bottle show' (i.e. it was contained
>to the diner the entire movie)?...
Too "meta" and too convoluted.
>On Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:05:05 PM UTC-7, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> ijball-...@mac.invalid wrote:
>>>The Killing Jar (recorded) - I recorded this off Chiller a few nights
>>>ago, and it was definitely better than the 1-star my cable guide rated
>>>it. Michael Madsen plays the usual 'heavy' who goes on a killing spree
>>>and takes a diner, including diner waitress Amber Benson, hostage (also
>>>among the hostages? Harold Perrineau). Anyway, this has some twists
>>>and turns along the way, and though it's probably too meandering and
>>>'talky' in parts, overall I liked it.
>>
>> OK, so how did they derive the title?
>
>Perhaps because it was basically a 'bottle show' (i.e. it was contained
>to the diner the entire movie)?...
Ubiquitous
Oct 15, 2012, 4:21:51 AM10/15/12
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dbar...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
>666 PARK AVENUE: Murmurations
>I did not think I would be watching any more of this show,
>but as a poster said he was enjoying it & there were
>captions this time...
>I found it tolerable.
>I did mention in a previous post that this second episode
>would reference Hitchcock's movie The Birds, and it sure
>did. Even Tippi Hedren was mentioned. IIRC the pest
>exterminator was warned, and so he had to go tho he was
>only doing his job.
>The next episode, airing here today, is said to reference
>"The Shining", which I don't think I saw..
Yes, it did!
>666 PARK AVENUE: Murmurations
>I did not think I would be watching any more of this show,
>but as a poster said he was enjoying it & there were
>captions this time...
>I found it tolerable.
>I did mention in a previous post that this second episode
>would reference Hitchcock's movie The Birds, and it sure
>did. Even Tippi Hedren was mentioned. IIRC the pest
>exterminator was warned, and so he had to go tho he was
>only doing his job.
>The next episode, airing here today, is said to reference
>"The Shining", which I don't think I saw..
anim8rFSK
Oct 15, 2012, 10:27:44 AM10/15/12
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Jim G.
Oct 16, 2012, 3:54:44 PM10/16/12
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Ubiquitous sent the following on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 05:33:44 -0400:
>
> What did you watch?
I watched Notre Dame go to 6-0 with ESPN College GameDay in town for the
festivities. And while the Irish got screwed by a non-call on the
infamous "Bush Push" in their loss to U$C the last time Herbie and
company were in town, this year they got the benefit of a final call
that could have gone either way. (Although we have no idea when the
whistle blew *and* I honestly think that the Stanford runner's elbow had
hit the ground before the ball crossed the plane of the goal line.)
ND Offense: C-
ND Defense: A+
ND Special Teams: B+
I also watched the Illini get spanked 45-0 by a bunch of Ann Arbor
bastages. But I only watched that one during commercial breaks of the
Irish game, so it didn't hurt too much and was actually quite comical
when it was all said and done.
Illini Offense: F
Illini Defense: F
Illini Special Teams: D-
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Get down off the cross. We need the wood." -- Pete Lattimer, WAREHOUSE 13
>
> What did you watch?
I watched Notre Dame go to 6-0 with ESPN College GameDay in town for the
festivities. And while the Irish got screwed by a non-call on the
infamous "Bush Push" in their loss to U$C the last time Herbie and
company were in town, this year they got the benefit of a final call
that could have gone either way. (Although we have no idea when the
whistle blew *and* I honestly think that the Stanford runner's elbow had
hit the ground before the ball crossed the plane of the goal line.)
ND Offense: C-
ND Defense: A+
ND Special Teams: B+
I also watched the Illini get spanked 45-0 by a bunch of Ann Arbor
bastages. But I only watched that one during commercial breaks of the
Irish game, so it didn't hurt too much and was actually quite comical
when it was all said and done.
Illini Offense: F
Illini Defense: F
Illini Special Teams: D-
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Get down off the cross. We need the wood." -- Pete Lattimer, WAREHOUSE 13
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