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Dave The Rave  
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 More options Nov 3 2012, 10:58 am
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv
From: Dave The Rave <daves32...@safe-mail.net>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 07:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Nov 3 2012 10:58 am
Subject: Re: "Firefly" anniversary special airing November 11th
On Oct 29, 7:13 pm, ques...@infionline.net (Harold Groot) wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:14:43 -0400, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca>
> wrote:

> >On Mon, 29 Oct 2012, anim8rFSK wrote:

> >> In article <509167c1.157728...@news.flex.com>,
> >> veryso...@nocando.com (Pinstripe Sniper) wrote:

> >>> anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:

> >>>> veryso...@nocando.com (Pinstripe Sniper) wrote:

> >>>>> wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> >>>>>> Ron Glass wasn't part of the entire renegade crew?
> >>>>>> (Maybe he was "the rest," like on the first season of "Gilligan's
> >>>>>> Island.")

> >>>>> I am curious to know how the credits were for season 1.

> >>>> Of Gilligan or Firefly?

> >>> Of Gilligan

> >> LOL, just sing the song!

> >> With Gilligan!
> >> The Skipper too
> >> The Millionaire
> >> And his wife
> >> The Movie Star
> >> And the rest
> >> Are here on Gilligan's Isle!

> >> The Professor and Mary Ann get credited at the end.  As a kid I thought
> >> maybe there were more people on the island, but of course they say how
> >> many castaways there are in the song, which blows THAT theory ...

> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfR7qxtgCgY

> >Maybe they couldn't figure out words that rhymed at the time, hence the
> >early version, and then later they came up with a better set of words.

> >Or, when the song was written, they hadn't decided on the exact cast,
> >maybe they didn't know the roles or thought maybe they'd have more
> >regulars, or something, so they had a vague version until things were
> >solidified.  Or had a vague version and then decided to change it once
> >things were formalized.

> From Wikipedia (which matches what I recall from a documentary on the
> program)

> ==========================================================================

> The music and lyrics for the theme song, "The Ballad of Gilligan s
> Isle", were written by Sherwood Schwartz and George Wyle. One version
> was used for the first season and another for the second and third. In
> the original song, the Professor and Mary Ann were referred to as "and
> the rest". Actors Russell Johnson and Dawn Wells were originally
> considered "second-billed co-stars", but with the growing popularity
> of their characters, their names were inserted into the lyrics. Wells
> has said that star Bob Denver went to the studio executives to get
> Johnson and herself added to the opening credits. The studio
> originally refused, stating it would be too costly to re-shoot and
> re-score the opening. Denver pointed out that his contract stated he
> could have his name anywhere he wanted in the credits, so they could
> move it to the end credits along with Johnson and Wells. The studio
> capitulated. Wells said that Denver never mentioned this to anyone in
> the cast, and she did not find out about it until years after the show
> ended.

> ========================================================================

> It may be worthwhile mentioning that the rolls of The Professor, Mary
> Ann and Ginger were different in the pilot, and played by different
> people.  Wiki again:

> =========================================================================

> In the pilot, the Professor was instead a high school teacher played
> by John Gabriel; Ginger the movie star was instead Ginger, a practical
> secretary with red hair, played by Kit Smythe; and Mary Ann the Kansas
> farm-girl was instead Bunny, a stereotypically cheerful "dumb blonde"
> secretary, played by Nancy McCarthy.

> =========================================================================

> >Since there was only one season of Firefly, it's hard to change that for
> >the second season.

> >   Michael

Gilligan pilot had different theme song.

                   Dave The Rave


 
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